A Hard to accept but Truthful outcome of Michael Jackson

quinnnaduquinnnadu Posts: 21
edited January 1970 in General Hoax Investigation
I have long been a supporter of Michael Jackson being alive still and hoaxing his death. Ive had this view now since the death and after being a long time supporter of Michael Jackson since my early childhood.<br /><br />But in all honesty the outcome of the Conrad Murray trial will completely resolve the possibilty of a death hoax. If Michael Jackson was reall hoaxing his death, then member of the family would not have pushed for a case against Conrad Murray. Because as people may know, a guilty verdict, along side with a Michael Jackson bam in the furture would result in purgery as well as further legal remifications against Michael Jackson and his benefactors. <br /><br />Its a hard to accept truth, and as much as I wanted to overlook it, this trial is the answer we have been looking for.
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  • fordtocarrfordtocarr Posts: 1,547
    [size=14pt]WHAT if this is a hoax court?  What if it's a movie?  What if it's a sting court?  What if it's real, but Michael is alive?  Maybe it was a different body.  What if Murray is judged guilty and Michael is alive?  What if he's guilty and Michael returns later?  If it is a hoax court, if it's a sting court..then he wouldn't be prosecuted.  This court is a message that we haven't finished reading yet.  Even at the end of court we probably won't have finished reading/learning what this is all about.  All we can do is observe and wait.  WHAT does it hurt to just wait???[/size]
  • all4loveandbelieveall4loveandbelieve Posts: 4,455
    As we all know Conrad Murray's real name is Earl Robert( something) I forgot his last nam sorry.. Anyhow, he is not a cardiologist. I do not know if you read one of my thread stating that i have a a friend who is a doctor, and he searched for Conrad Murray's lisence, no where to be found. So in a court of law you cannot put in jail a person who does not exist. CM does not exist anywhere.. There are lots of thread stating this. I suggest to read and you will see it will change your mind.<br /><br />Also keep in mind that Michael estate did not cash his life insurance. Everything Michael is doing is carefully studied. .Please have faith, and be positive. <br />blessings.
  • RaikiramariRaikiramari Posts: 249
    You know what? I'm going to completely ignore this Trial, Michael taught us not to get involved with the Media and to ignore the Media. I wanted to watch the Trial, then I realized exactly what Michael's message was. <br /><br />That we pay way too much attention to the Media. <br /><br />This Trial doesn't determine in anyway that Michael is Dead or alive, this Trial is something Michael has planned and wanted us to avoid because it's all part of the Media. Michael is trying to teach us a lesson about dismissing Tabloid Junk, yet we don't realize that even this Trial is pulling us towards the Media. Now that I realize I've watched this Trial, I feel grossly disappointed in myself for not realizing Michael's message sooner. <br /><br />Think about it, we all let this Trial get to us... which is the reason we all watch it, to compensate for our own selfish needs, Michael wanted to teach us peace, unity and love. <br /><br />Did you notice how the fans stuck together like glue during the Child molestation Trials in 1993 and 2005? that's pure unity. <br /><br />Michael has played with our emotions through this Trial, to teach us an important lesson, now that our unity has split. We shouldn't ignore his messages, we should pay close attention to what he tried to preach for such a long time to us that we constantly ignored, even without seeing it. <br /><br />I'm leaving the Forums soon, I'm tired of the assumptions through this Court case. I want to walk away and feel proud that I acknowledged Michael's teachings. <br /><br />Keep on beLIEving, no matter the circumstance.
  • fordtocarrfordtocarr Posts: 1,547
    [size=14pt]Raii, I hope you don't leave us.  I've enjoyed your comments and getting to know you on the trial chat.  I'd miss you being there.  I understand what you are staying completely.  I've never understood the intense driving force to "figure out" they why of the hoax.  I presume if Michael wanted us to know, it wouldn't have taken him over two years to let us know.  It's become a contest of who's right and who'd wrong and if you believe different you'll hear it.  So, yes I think we've lost what is important in all of this.  BUT, being here helps.  It gives us outlet to talk about our thoughts and feelings about Michael and all of this without being deemed all those awful words Michael lived with.  Also, I think being involved in the trial, is not so much about believing the media..because we are getting it right from the act of the trial it's self, and NOT the media.  The trial must be tremendously important to have lead to it and to have it give us so many clues, and lies!  Ignoring it is ignoring what Michael is showing you.  Yes he taught us other things, but we have an on going message here still he's giving to us.  It's not about the media.  If we only got our info through the media I could understand.  But, we are essentially there to take note of and learn whatever it is he wants.<br />I hope you stay.[/size]
  • RaikiramariRaikiramari Posts: 249
    on 1319223081:
    <br />[size=14pt]Raii, I hope you don't leave us.  I've enjoyed your comments and getting to know you on the trial chat.  I'd miss you being there.  I understand what you are staying completely.  I've never understood the intense driving force to "figure out" they why of the hoax.  I presume if Michael wanted us to know, it wouldn't have taken him over two years to let us know.  It's become a contest of who's right and who'd wrong and if you believe different you'll hear it.  So, yes I think we've lost what is important in all of this.  BUT, being here helps.  It gives us outlet to talk about our thoughts and feelings about Michael and all of this without being deemed all those awful words Michael lived with.  Also, I think being involved in the trial, is not so much about believing the media..because we are getting it right from the act of the trial it's self, and NOT the media.  The trial must be tremendously important to have lead to it and to have it give us so many clues, and lies!  Ignoring it is ignoring what Michael is showing you.  Yes he taught us other things, but we have an on going message here still he's giving to us.  It's not about the media.  If we only got our info through the media I could understand.  But, we are essentially there to take note of and learn whatever it is he wants.<br />I hope you stay.[/size]<br />
    <br /><br />I can't make a decision, ford. I've been trying to comprehend this for a long time. <br /><br />But that's the problem, ignoring it is the only way of solving it. For those who want to continue watching the Trial, that's fine. I stand by myself here.
  • ShyBleuEyesShyBleuEyes Posts: 623
    Hello Rai,<br /><br />I wanted to respond on your thoughts here ( even if we spoke more at the chat), it could be a possibility they way you describe it.<br />I wanted you to know my perspective on this, although i could be wrong also:<br /><br />Without all the tabloid gossip and the media outlets, we wouldn't even know that Michael has "died", and we wouldn't know how it develops further without this trial. I believe Michael would want us to see and learn for ourselfs, to make up our own mind, to learn from it and to see the bigger picture here, to get all the pieces from the puzzle to fit in it.<br />I believe and we have heard from friends of Michael that even Michael uses the media and the tabloids, it was not always turning out  the way he wanted to,... but still.<br />He wants to let us know that we can see the truth if we truly seek for it, and therefore we, and Michael himself need the media also.<br />We have to remember that it doesn't make it the gospel, when you heard or read something.<br />We always have to find out the truth, and i believe we can find the truth together, so don't leave the forum, it's here for Michael to spread HIS message and His Warnings to see whats going on.<br />Remember we learned so much from Michael without him this site couldn't exist the way it does now.<br /><br />LOVE you from my heart  bearhug<br /><br /><br />
  • ShyBleuEyesShyBleuEyes Posts: 623
    Sorry i accidently post it twice, :oops: /pull hair/
  • RaikiramariRaikiramari Posts: 249
    on 1319224181:
    <br />Hello Rai,<br /><br />I wanted to respond on your thoughts here ( even if we spoke more at the chat), it could be a possibility they way you describe it.<br />I wanted you to know my perspective on this, although i could be wrong also:<br /><br />Without all the tabloid gossip and the media outlets, we wouldn't even know that Michael has "died", and we wouldn't know how it develops further without this trial. I believe Michael would want us to see and learn for ourselfs, to make up our own mind, to learn from it and to see the bigger picture here, to get all the pieces from the puzzle to fit in it.<br />I believe and we have heard from friends of Michael that even Michael uses the media and the tabloids, it was not always turning out  the way he wanted to,... but still.<br />He wants to let us know that we can see the truth if we truly seek for it, and therefore we, and Michael himself need the media also.<br />We have to remember that it doesn't make it the gospel, when you heard or read something.<br />We always have to find out the truth, and i believe we can find the truth together, so don't leave the forum, it's here for Michael to spread HIS message and His Warnings to see whats going on.<br />Remember we learned so much from Michael without him this site couldn't exist the way it does now.<br /><br />LOVE you from my heart  bearhug<br />
    <br /><br />I dunno, I figured there was something wrong the first moment he was announced dead. I guess using the Media could be a useful resource, but I just feel like we're not doing SOMETHING right. <br /><br />Yes, I know. I like this site in honesty, but I just don't feel very useful here and some of the negativity and assumptions hurt.
  • scorpionchikscorpionchik Posts: 2,669
    @Allforlove<br /> <br />This is 10th times I am posting this info, really people? Conrad Robert Murray license exists on medical board and was suspended. I am not saying I give up on hoax theory over the trial, maybe whoever the defendant is not doctor Conrad Murray, I don't know, but the licensed cardiologist Murray is out there.<br /> <br />   PATIENT CARE - 40+ HOURS<br />RESEARCH - NO HOURS<br />TEACHING - 1 TO 9 HOURS<br />ADMINISTRATION - 40+ HOURS<br />OTHER - 10 TO 19 HOURS<br /> Primary Practice Location Zip Code: 89119 Board Certification(s): No board certifications identified Primary Practice Area(s): CARDIOLOGY<br /> Secondary Practice Area(s): INTERNAL MEDICINE<br /> Post Graduate Training Years: 9+ YEARS Ethnic Background: Declined to Disclose Foreign Language(s): Declined to Disclose Gender: Declined to Disclose <br /> <br />   plus.gifG 71169 Licensee may be a U.S. or Canadian medical school graduate whose pathway to licensure was based on the NBME examination. License Type: Physician and Surgeon Name: CONRAD ROBERT MURRAY, M.D. Address of Record: plus.gif PO BOX 72216<br />LAS VEGAS, NV 89170  Address of Record County: OUT OF STATE License Status: Licensee has been suspended. No practice is permitted. Public Record Action(s): Licensee's practice has been temporarily restricted or limited pursuant to a court order. Licensee was reprimanded for a minor violation(s) of the law. This is considered disciplinary action. Another state or the federal govenment has disciplined licensee. Original Issue Date: April 22, 1991 Expiration Date: February 28, 2011 School Name: MEHARRY MEDICAL COLLEGE SCHOOL OF MEDICINE Year Graduated: 1989
  • all4loveandbelieveall4loveandbelieve Posts: 4,455
    on 1319225553:
    <br />@Allforlove<br /> <br />This is 10th times I am posting this info, really people? Conrad Robert Murray license exists on medical board and was suspended. I am not saying I give up on hoax theory over the trial, maybe whoever the defendant is not doctor Conrad Murray, I don't know, but the licensed cardiologist Murray is out there.<br /> <br />   PATIENT CARE - 40+ HOURS<br />RESEARCH - NO HOURS<br />TEACHING - 1 TO 9 HOURS<br />ADMINISTRATION - 40+ HOURS<br />OTHER - 10 TO 19 HOURS<br /> Primary Practice Location Zip Code: 89119 Board Certification(s): No board certifications identified Primary Practice Area(s): CARDIOLOGY<br /> Secondary Practice Area(s): INTERNAL MEDICINE<br /> Post Graduate Training Years: 9+ YEARS Ethnic Background: Declined to Disclose Foreign Language(s): Declined to Disclose Gender: Declined to Disclose <br /> <br />   plus.gifG 71169 Licensee may be a U.S. or Canadian medical school graduate whose pathway to licensure was based on the NBME examination. License Type: Physician and Surgeon Name: CONRAD ROBERT MURRAY, M.D. Address of Record: plus.gif PO BOX 72216<br />LAS VEGAS, NV 89170  Address of Record County: OUT OF STATE License Status: Licensee has been suspended. No practice is permitted. Public Record Action(s): Licensee's practice has been temporarily restricted or limited pursuant to a court order. Licensee was reprimanded for a minor violation(s) of the law. This is considered disciplinary action. Another state or the federal govenment has disciplined licensee. Original Issue Date: April 22, 1991 Expiration Date: February 28, 2011 School Name: MEHARRY MEDICAL COLLEGE SCHOOL OF MEDICINE Year Graduated: 1989 <br />
    <br /> <br />That is a fake lisence.. anyways think what you want to think.. You are questioning my friends credibility, which he took a chance which it is against their rules. 
  • LoveNeedsExpressionLoveNeedsExpression Posts: 543
    This trial is like a final exam. We've been studying this hoax by ourselves, together, on forum, on youtube, blogs, etc. Now is the time to test what we've learned. I've heard SEVERAL inconsistancys, and contradictions. If  I wasn't a believer the trial would be boring and I wouldnt have much interest. Knowing what we know, I love seeing people lie on the stand, "under oath" ;D  Also its a test of loyalty. This trial is very real (or it looks that way). Can our faith in MJ withstand this trial. Personally with all the toys in the court room and the fake photos being released, this trial has only strengthen my belief. No matter what the verdict it, MJ is alove and he's doing this for a reason.
  • applehead250609applehead250609 Posts: 2,615
    on 1319222426:
    <br />You know what? I'm going to completely ignore this Trial, Michael taught us not to get involved with the Media and to ignore the Media. I wanted to watch the Trial, then I realized exactly what Michael's message was. <br /><br />That we pay way too much attention to the Media. <br /><br />This Trial doesn't determine in anyway that Michael is Dead or alive, this Trial is something Michael has planned and wanted us to avoid because it's all part of the Media. Michael is trying to teach us a lesson about dismissing Tabloid Junk, yet we don't realize that even this Trial is pulling us towards the Media. Now that I realize I've watched this Trial, I feel grossly disappointed in myself for not realizing Michael's message sooner. <br /><br />Think about it, we all let this Trial get to us... which is the reason we all watch it, to compensate for our own selfish needs, Michael wanted to teach us peace, unity and love. <br /><br />Did you notice how the fans stuck together like glue during the Child molestation Trials in 1993 and 2005? that's pure unity. <br /><br />Michael has played with our emotions through this Trial, to teach us an important lesson, now that our unity has split. We shouldn't ignore his messages, we should pay close attention to what he tried to preach for such a long time to us that we constantly ignored, even without seeing it. <br /><br />I'm leaving the Forums soon, I'm tired of the assumptions through this Court case. I want to walk away and feel proud that I acknowledged Michael's teachings. <br /><br />Keep on beLIEving, no matter the circumstance. <br />
    <br /><br />[size=10pt]Dear Raikiramari I feel everything you said above,BELIEVE me  :(.From the begining I knew that I dont want to watch the TRIAL,not AGAIN  :(,this is what I feel and I want to be honest with you and everyone who is reading my post.<br />This part of your post,really hit me hard,because is EXACTLY what I THINK about THE TRIAL:<br />[/size]<br />
    I wanted to watch the Trial, then I realized exactly what Michael's message was..................which is the reason we all watch it, to compensate for our own selfish needs, Michael wanted to teach us peace, unity and love.........................We shouldn't ignore his messages, we should pay close attention to what he tried to preach for such a long time to us that we constantly ignored, even without seeing it
    <br /><br />[size=10pt]Now I want to tell what I feel from my point of wiew,by showing you 3 things,that I think represents very well on what we should FOCUSE:[/size]<br /><br />
    1. “People always say, oh they’ll take care of it..they’ll, they who? It starts with us…us, or it’ll never be done."
    <br />(Michael in THIS IS IT)<br /><br />
    2. "People don't even eat with their fathers anymore, or their mothers. The family bond has been broken, it's an outcry for attention." (Michael gets emotional here and breaks down)<br /><br />"Why are kids going to school with guns? They want to be touched, they want to be held, but they [the parents] are busy off on their day job and they leave them at home on the computer and they're just doing all kinds of crazy stuff. And that's destroying our bond. We need to bond again, that's very important."<br /><br />"I'm just very sensitive to their pain and I am very sensitive to the family, the human condition, you know? On that subject, it means a lot to me and I want to help. Whatever I can to help that..... Everything, in my heart, is for them."
    (Michael to Martin Bashir )<br /><br />3.Recently Miss Cast Away movie was released on DVD ,and will be broadcast on TV also.On 29 july Hesouttamylife posted a info about this but no one replied.Recently a member of this forum who's name is Tove posted this news again,and no one saw it,this time also :(. My point is that THIS MOVIE has a serious MESSAGE and I said this before but no one noticed I guess. For the first time I saw this movie I felt is something DIFFERENT.Here is a short describe of the movie:<br /><br />
    The film is a comedy that spoofs movies and television programs like Miss Congeniality, Planet of the Apes, Cast Away, Love Boat, Gilligan's Island, The Sixth Sense, Jurassic Park, Men in Black and more. Michael Jackson plays the role of Agent MJ. Jackson's scenes were shot at his Neverland Ranch home. The DVD includes 20 minutes of unreleased, never before seen Michael Jackson footage, not limited to interviews of the world's greatest entertainer.
    <br /><br />And now the conclusion ,lol  ;).Last year I saw on youtube part 10 of the Movie Cast AWAY,but after some time that video was gone  :?.The 10-th part had the CREDITS also.Down the video I saw a COMMENT that I want to share with you all:<br /><br />People this is not ENTERTAINMENT!!!It's criptic message left by Mj.Every single character in this movie is a METAPHOR for something TAKING OVER OUR LIFES.......(one clue:THE POPCORN and COOL DRINK CARTOON represents CINEMA or MAKE BELIEVE- Mj wants to destroy it) wow.I can finally say after seeing this movie ,I can see his full picture and MISSION!!!<br /><br />[size=12pt]LOVE[/size]
  • DontwalkawayDontwalkaway Posts: 849
    If this is a hoax court or movie than no one would be in trouble.  If "Murray/Robert Earl Carter" is playing a role as an actor then he isn't really going to prison or house arrest or anything.  It's all part of the show/movie.  lolol/
  • DontwalkawayDontwalkaway Posts: 849
    Yes, I agree.  It's all for love and it's all for us to get important messages and learn.  There is probably a ton of stuff to learn from this that we haven't even thought of yet.  We are still finding things from "This Is It" and that movie was two years ago.  I am also connecting things from songs from 20-30 years ago !!!!!!      Give it more time because this takes time and patience.  Don't worry too much about the trial except to look for lessons, and clues and maybe a sting operation exposing the truth.        penguin/
  • RaikiramariRaikiramari Posts: 249
    on 1319229183:
    <br />
    on 1319222426:
    <br />You know what? I'm going to completely ignore this Trial, Michael taught us not to get involved with the Media and to ignore the Media. I wanted to watch the Trial, then I realized exactly what Michael's message was. <br /><br />That we pay way too much attention to the Media. <br /><br />This Trial doesn't determine in anyway that Michael is Dead or alive, this Trial is something Michael has planned and wanted us to avoid because it's all part of the Media. Michael is trying to teach us a lesson about dismissing Tabloid Junk, yet we don't realize that even this Trial is pulling us towards the Media. Now that I realize I've watched this Trial, I feel grossly disappointed in myself for not realizing Michael's message sooner. <br /><br />Think about it, we all let this Trial get to us... which is the reason we all watch it, to compensate for our own selfish needs, Michael wanted to teach us peace, unity and love. <br /><br />Did you notice how the fans stuck together like glue during the Child molestation Trials in 1993 and 2005? that's pure unity. <br /><br />Michael has played with our emotions through this Trial, to teach us an important lesson, now that our unity has split. We shouldn't ignore his messages, we should pay close attention to what he tried to preach for such a long time to us that we constantly ignored, even without seeing it. <br /><br />I'm leaving the Forums soon, I'm tired of the assumptions through this Court case. I want to walk away and feel proud that I acknowledged Michael's teachings. <br /><br />Keep on beLIEving, no matter the circumstance. <br />
    <br /><br />[size=10pt]Dear Raikiramari I feel everything you said above,BELIEVE me  :(.From the begining I knew that I dont want to watch the TRIAL,not AGAIN  :(,this is what I feel and I want to be honest with you and everyone who is reading my post.<br />This part of your post,really hit me hard,because is EXACTLY what I THINK about THE TRIAL:<br />[/size]<br />
    I wanted to watch the Trial, then I realized exactly what Michael's message was..................which is the reason we all watch it, to compensate for our own selfish needs, Michael wanted to teach us peace, unity and love.........................We shouldn't ignore his messages, we should pay close attention to what he tried to preach for such a long time to us that we constantly ignored, even without seeing it
    <br /><br />[size=10pt]Now I want to tell what I feel from my point of wiew,by showing you 3 things,that I think represents very well on what we should FOCUSE:[/size]<br /><br />
    1. “People always say, oh they’ll take care of it..they’ll, they who? It starts with us…us, or it’ll never be done."
    <br />(Michael in THIS IS IT)<br /><br />
    2. "People don't even eat with their fathers anymore, or their mothers. The family bond has been broken, it's an outcry for attention." (Michael gets emotional here and breaks down)<br /><br />"Why are kids going to school with guns? They want to be touched, they want to be held, but they [the parents] are busy off on their day job and they leave them at home on the computer and they're just doing all kinds of crazy stuff. And that's destroying our bond. We need to bond again, that's very important."<br /><br />"I'm just very sensitive to their pain and I am very sensitive to the family, the human condition, you know? On that subject, it means a lot to me and I want to help. Whatever I can to help that..... Everything, in my heart, is for them."
    (Michael to Martin Bashir )<br /><br />3.Recently Miss Cast Away movie was released on DVD ,and will be broadcast on TV also.On 29 july Hesouttamylife posted a info about this but no one replied.Recently a member of this forum who's name is Tove posted this news again,and no one saw it,this time also :(. My point is that THIS MOVIE has a serious MESSAGE and I said this before but no one noticed I guess. For the first time I saw this movie I felt is something DIFFERENT.Here is a short describe of the movie:<br /><br />
    The film is a comedy that spoofs movies and television programs like Miss Congeniality, Planet of the Apes, Cast Away, Love Boat, Gilligan's Island, The Sixth Sense, Jurassic Park, Men in Black and more. Michael Jackson plays the role of Agent MJ. Jackson's scenes were shot at his Neverland Ranch home. The DVD includes 20 minutes of unreleased, never before seen Michael Jackson footage, not limited to interviews of the world's greatest entertainer.
    <br /><br />And now the conclusion ,lol  ;).Last year I saw on youtube part 10 of the Movie Cast AWAY,but after some time that video was gone  :?.The 10-th part had the CREDITS also.Down the video I saw a COMMENT that I want to share with you all:<br /><br />People this is not ENTERTAINMENT!!!It's criptic message left by Mj.Every single character in this movie is a METAPHOR for something TAKING OVER OUR LIFES.......(one clue:THE POPCORN and COOL DRINK CARTOON represents CINEMA or MAKE BELIEVE- Mj wants to destroy it) wow.I can finally say after seeing this movie ,I can see his full picture and MISSION!!!<br /><br />[size=12pt]LOVE[/size]<br />
    <br /><br />That's what I'm getting at, I know people insist the Trial is giving out evidence to us beLIEvers... but that isn't the case, we're doing it again, ignoring Michael's message about the lies, the Media and what is really important. <br /><br />What is important, is unifying. If we want to "Make the world a better place" we shouldn't ignore him. <br />
  • KimKim Posts: 245
    The only reason I still believe is that there are no clear pictures of MJ being dead. Not one clear photo. How is that possible? He is the most famous person in the world. <br />And then  the closed casket at the memorial, not a chance for the fans to say goodbye to MJ and to look at him for the last time. <br /> <br />When my niece died she had an open casket at her funeral, she was hit by a drunk driver. She had bruises on her face and hands, a beautiful young lady a week after her 21th birthday, torned away from life  :cry: . I mean you have to give people a chance to say goodbye. <br /> <br />They give him 3 years in prison, just because of the fact that the man was 73 years old.  >:( <br />
  • PureLovePureLove Posts: 5,891
    Do not underestimate Michael and what he is capable of. Murray can even go to home jail, would you believe it? Keep on believing whatever happens because he is alive and he is going to come back!
  • scary4youbabyscary4youbaby Posts: 37
    Recently I have been questioning my belief in Michael being alive but I always wind up remembering all the hoax evidence that I've learned over this difficult time.  I guess it's a small world after all because my boyfriend's little brother recently sprained his ankle and he went to the local doc. We live in a VERY SMALL town in Cali. He told me that his doctor, Dr.Dwight James had treated Michael before and that Murray is his cousin and that he is very sad that all this is happening. I was like  WTF??  Then I found out more and I came across this. <br /><br />Local doctor said ‘No' to Michael Jackson's Diprivan request<br />July 22, 2009 5:14 PMIf Michael Jackson had taken the advice of Dr. Dwight James of Porterville Valley Prompt Care, he might be alive today.<br />James’ Los Angeles office was giving vitamin therapy to the pop idol when, in April, his nurse and nutritional counselor Cherilyn Lee called about Jackson’s request for the drug Diprivan.<br />“I said ‘Absolutely not,’” James said from his Porterville clinic. “Diprivan is not something he should have been taking, and I refused to OK it.”<br />Lee continues to field questions from broadcast and print journalists about the suspicion that Diprivan (also known as Propofol) may have been part of the reason for Jackson’s demise.<br />A second autopsy, performed June 27 by a private pathologist, allegedly revealed “potentially lethal traces” of the anesthetic Propofol, or Diprivan, in Jackson’s system.<br />According to CNN News, in early July, Lee told The Associated Press that Jackson had “begged” her for Diprivan. The request, James said, was denied because of the real potential for harm.<br />“Diprivan,” James said, “is not a drug to be taken lightly. If Michael had just listened and continued his therapy, he could very well be alive today.”<br />Whatever the cause of Jackson’s death will prove to be, he will be remembered and adored for his musical contributions, and his often unnoticed contributions to the welfare of others.<br /><br /><br />http://www.recorderonline.com/articles/jackson-42355-james-michael.html<br /><br />dr_dwight_james.jpg<br />That's him. <br /><br />
  • PureLovePureLove Posts: 5,891
    on 1319235440:
    <br />The only reason I still believe is that there are no clear pictures of MJ being dead. Not one clear photo. How is that possible? He is the most famous person in the world. <br />And then  the closed casket at the memorial, not a chance for the fans to say goodbye to MJ and to look at him for the last time. <br /> <br />When my niece died she had an open casket at her funeral, she was hit by a drunk driver. She had bruises on her face and hands, a beautiful young lady a week after her 21th birthday, torned away from life  :cry: . I mean you have to give people a chance to say goodbye. <br /> <br />They give him 3 years in prison, just because of the fact that the man was 73 years old.  >:( <br />
    <br /><br />I am so sorry for your niece. :cry: And just 3 years? That is not fair. Life is not fair. >:(
  • all4loveandbelieveall4loveandbelieve Posts: 4,455
    on 1319235440:
    <br />The only reason I still believe is that there are no clear pictures of MJ being dead. Not one clear photo. How is that possible? He is the most famous person in the world. <br />And then  the closed casket at the memorial, not a chance for the fans to say goodbye to MJ and to look at him for the last time. <br /> <br />When my niece died she had an open casket at her funeral, she was hit by a drunk driver. She had bruises on her face and hands, a beautiful young lady a week after her 21th birthday, torned away from life  :cry: . I mean you have to give people a chance to say goodbye. <br /> <br />They give him 3 years in prison, just because of the fact that the man was 73 years old.  >:( <br /> <br />
    <br /> <br />Kim I am so sorry about your niece.. May she rest in peace. It is not easy to lose a loved one and as precious as a young  woman..
  • all4loveandbelieveall4loveandbelieve Posts: 4,455
    I would like to know where you find this is media? It is a trial.. Court room. That is no media. We are simply listening to witnesses. It is not the media who is defending Murray real lawyers. This has been fabricated by Michael, so where do you see the Media?? If you can give me a concrete debate then I would tell you it was nice meeting you.. For now it is not really concrete. You probably are losing faith, and you are taking this excuse to leave the forum.. You are entitled to believe what ever you want.. For me Michael is alive, nothing makes sense.. The ambulance picture is fake, the gurney picture is fake, and the autopsy pic is fake.. Nothing is real.. Remember all the slip ups of Jermaine, he left way before to the airport.. Why Airport?? Someone can have twist of the tongue, but a similar word to hospital, he could have said hospice, just example, why airport?? I will tell you why, when you want to hide things, the more effort you put into it, the more it will come out. I know it happens to me.. So take the slip ups of Jermaine and put them in good use.. I hope I made my points across, and made you change your mind.  <br />Blessings.
  • alfarlealfarle Posts: 440
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    <br />[size=14pt]Raii, I hope you don't leave us.  I've enjoyed your comments and getting to know you on the trial chat.  I'd miss you being there.  I understand what you are staying completely.  I've never understood the intense driving force to "figure out" they why of the hoax.  I presume if Michael wanted us to know, it wouldn't have taken him over two years to let us know.  It's become a contest of who's right and who'd wrong and if you believe different you'll hear it.  So, yes I think we've lost what is important in all of this.  BUT, being here helps.  It gives us outlet to talk about our thoughts and feelings about Michael and all of this without being deemed all those awful words Michael lived with.  Also, I think being involved in the trial, is not so much about believing the media..because we are getting it right from the act of the trial it's self, and NOT the media.  The trial must be tremendously important to have lead to it and to have it give us so many clues, and lies!  Ignoring it is ignoring what Michael is showing you.  Yes he taught us other things, but we have an on going message here still he's giving to us.  It's not about the media.  If we only got our info through the media I could understand.  But, we are essentially there to take note of and learn whatever it is he wants.<br />I hope you stay.[/size]<br />
    <br /><br />I can't make a decision, ford. I've been trying to comprehend this for a long time. <br /><br />But that's the problem, ignoring it is the only way of solving it. For those who want to continue watching the Trial, that's fine. I stand by myself here.<br />
    <br /><br /><br />I too have thought about dismissing the trial and such due to the fact that some of the details try to sway me to believe that he really did have a problem....and that's not cool.Before I officially became an active member on this site, I found my emotions to be getting TOO deeply involved in what's going on with the CASE in itself and became saddened AND confused. So it's like when I see the trial now, it's nothing but one soap opera in my eyes....like "what's going to happen next". I tune in to pay attention to the hidden messages(using my "third eye") that I may have not grasped the concept of before. All of that negativity within the case is pretty juvenile saying that MJ injected this...and he did that. It's the factual things that are more important. <br /><br />But nonetheless, I totally agree with you. The trial can bring forth feelings. It is best to stay away from the trial if that's what your HEART tells you to do. :)Just pls don't leave the forum. Ure cool peeps!
  • scorpionchikscorpionchik Posts: 2,669
    @allforlove ; what you mean it is fake license? I am getting info from CA Medical Board. CM graduated foreign medical school, but in order to practice in the USA he had to take and pass exam in the USA at any state so it would  appear on that board. Yes, I do question your friend's credibility on this one.
  • 2good2btrue2good2btrue Posts: 4,210
    This man has a past.....he does exist, but whether MJ is posing as him is what I sometimes believe..<br /><br />Once again, MJ has many looks, and has changed his face that many times, that I wouldn't be suprised this is the ILLUSION he was planning all along.......faking a height is difficult, but also possible....I believe there is a real Murray, but he also seems to look different at many times.<br /><br />The ultimate truth will be revealed at the end of the trial.....I will wait till then to make up my mind, and accept that he is really gone.......<br /><br />I still think it was murray in disguise at MJ's private funeral, unless anyone can prove me wrong...this is in my opinion of course...but if this is true, then we need not question whether MJ is alive or not anymore.!!!<br /><br />
  • quinnnaduquinnnadu Posts: 21
    I understand what you guys are saying but you are failing to understand that if Conrad Murray is convicted of manslaughter, then Michael comes out and says he is alive. The members of the family intiating the trial will be tried and charged with purgery. As well as all the practitioners claiming to have autopsied Michael.
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