S.T.U.D.Y. - A little insight?
MJJLives
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Hi. I found this site. It sort of explains what S.T.U.D.Y means. Oh and the people who wrote it are Tim, Sonya, and Teilen Simkin. Initials TS, like the TS involving Thisisalsoit.com? Just throwing things out there.
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My jaw is on the floor!
Could someone be kind enough to pick it up for me?
I think i`m going to pass out LOL
I have to read this thing again to be able to formulate an answer...
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pretty sad though, and that 'do not trust in yourself' part says it all. I think it's safe to say thousands of fans have been scammed by a religious group (in the name of God, obviously).
sad
Yeah...I had a feeling that Part 8 and 9 were a bit too religious, esp. part 9.
I only wanted to join the army all because I wanted to help Michael. I'm not religious.
"MJJLives"
Thank you so much for this information
"Love is my message"
You are right, and i can also name a bunch of movies that are much more positive and also have great parallels with MJ, they fit too. I seriously don't understand the need of any conspiracy for people to be kinder towards each other. And i don't see why you guys need someone with a clear preaching agenda to open your eyes to see the wrong things around us. Isn't that obvious enough? Complete history of mankind is a proof.
As for this particular person (or group of people) behind S.T.U.D.Y., to my eyes they have clear agenda, and had it way before any hoax was in sight. The person clearly stated his goal - to teach people something by means of web publishing. And i'm sorry to say this, but MJ 'death' just looks like a great opportunity to do that on a large scale. I know, i'm in the minority here, and i respect all of you very much, no matter what you believe. Just please be careful.
i tend to agree with you on this tinkerbell
i took the liberty of looking both the above mentioned website and TIAI's ip addresses up on whois : they're both the same. Now i'm not computer savvy at all, so i don't know if that stands for anything but these S.T.U.D.Y.org guys sound a tad to religious to me, somethings just off about it but as of yet i can't put my finger on it.
First read this one : <!-- m -->http://mjkit.forumotion.net/the-numbers ... -t1766.htm<!-- m -->
And then start reading the reveal part from here: <!-- l -->viewtopic.php?f=72&t=1924<!-- l -->
They didn't say anything from Bible in these pages and they sound very logical about the hoax. You will understand, just read it pls.
Ive posted a YT Video in the Vidhoax section. Perhaps its important for some here, perhaps its nothing. <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: -->
Merry Xmas!
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And here is info on Thisisalsoit.com
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There are also videos, made by this person and also someone else, but simiarly Bible videos:
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There are some interesting titles.
So some members saw this site on the old forum, it is not a coincidence?... cause if it is, it' a huuuuuge one (considering the names and style of writing). Oh well, i guess nothing strange with pastor posting on Michael Jackson hoax sites
And now? What's the difference?
Nothing at all, it seems!
When I started to read the TIAI revealed threads I was like, 'ok, this makes a lot of sense'...but as I was approaching the end, i.e., parts 8/9, I got this weird feeling that something wasn't right. Like, what's this person's agenda? I had the suspicion that he/she wanted to use us and our love for MJ towards the fulfilment of their motives...In my opinion, it is now clear that this is indeed the intention behind TIAI...
Thank you MJJLives for this excellent find!
Well, i guess it doesn't make any difference, it's clear that everyone has already made up their minds about TIAI and is gonna stick with their opinions. Personally, I was just curious to know who this man behind the curtain may be, what kind of personality this man (or people) should have to invent a site with a thousand of redirections and build up such a theory... I thought perhaps this original site would be interesting to explore, but it seemed like a very strage page to me, while the TIAI thing was worked out very clearly (despite the first impression=)
What do you think are their "motives"?
I COULD of course all end up with them saying, Michael won't come back unless each soldier of L.O.V.E. pays this or that.
It could. And that would be the worst case, as there are always people who are easily manipulated - even among us.
And I wouldn't be surprised, if TS revealed his source of information was God, which I - as a completely non-religious person - would be suspicious about. But I would accept that as well, as I am also open to the possibility, that special people have other "channels" for information. Who am I to rule out the possibility that there is a god communicating with certain human beings. Probably Michael had a similar source <!-- s;-) -->;-)<!-- s;-) -->
All his posts (including the early 999-posts from MJHD, where I saw the S.T.U.D.Y. logo) were so very well researched and elaborate, that I believe he is at least a beLIEver and a MJ fan <!-- s;-) -->;-)<!-- s;-) -->
Let's see, what happens...
However, it doesn't change the message - Michael's message - for me. There's nothing wrong about the message itself and it doesn't hurt to publicly be willing to spread L.O.V.E. and show our support, whoever pointed it out and made the stone roll.
Another thing, if TIAI reveals truly Michaels' intentions and speaks out for him for he cannot open up at the moment, i wonder how come none of the insiders that we follow dropped any clue on December 21, just to suppot the fact that TIAI is really coming from him. I can imagine this would have seriously fueled the whole thing an created much more trust in it!
In fact I do agree with most of what you stated, and really, I very much hope to be wrong about this. Sure, is never a bad thing to be reminded of what Michael's message was/is, or even to spread it around. And yes, the research and work behind's S.T.U.D.Y's post is extraordinary. Yet, I do not think that he is a believer or a fan. It's my instinct telling me this...I keep an open mind, and I've been on the fence on this once since the very beginning. But now I'm more inclined to think that TS's motives are not so MJ related.
In their posts there was, in my opinion, just a tad too much emphasis on NWO/Illuminati/Conspiracies/End of the world, etc. The context of our 'investigation' has room for these subjects to be explored, as they have been. But I personally feel a little uncomfortable when everything around us is seen as a conspiracy. I have researched the subject, as I am indeed very interested in it, and do believe in some of the most well known conspiracies, and other. But why are conspiracy theorists not taken seriously by the general public? Partly, because some people don't want these things talked about; but also because NOT everything is a conspiracy. Some are not solidly researched and I, for one, need more evidence that the NWO actually exists before I fall for the whole idea. Gosh, I digress! So sorry! In short, Ithink that TS want to make use of Michael's army of "believers" to spread their views on NWO, among others things. And don't get me wrong, I do see all the things that are wrong with this world, it makes me sick. And I do believe in the power of the "people", I firmly believe the mass can do a lot more than it does.But I found their views a little too apolitical....that's just me, maybe I am wrong, and in fact I'd like to be!
Well said, you're very right.
Also, I think the whole idea of MJ faking his death to put his message across is pretty far fetched. That's why I smell a rat here...