The name !
ClineMJJ
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Well, i'm a little confused about the second name. In the death certificate, it's "Joseph" but in a lot of others administrative papers ( From court, on his license, passeport, etc...) it's "Joe". Sombedoy ( who doesn't live in USA ) told me that in USA, you can use a diminutive for your second name in some papers, so MJ's real second name is Joseph but it sometimes uses joe as a diminutive because of lack of place on the paper. Sooo, two are right. But, here there are real americans so I wanna really know if you can really use a diminutive on all administratives documents ? Do you understand what I mean coz my english isn't PERFECT ! Thank you <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
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What me bothers at the moment in this Joe/Joseph case... If he was really born as Joseph, why would his father use Joe in Michael's Motown contract?
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So ... this middle name story will surely drive us crazy.
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Thanks so much.
LOL
But there is a huge red stamp on the document stating " Informational, not a valid document to establish identity "
- Are there any new news about this?
And look at the symbol down att the right bottom of the document (snakes?) I have seen that symbol somewhere!
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And this:
No place of interment is listed. A ‘temp’ place could be a church. A ‘temporary’ location is not a proper location on a California death certificate.
California Health and Safety Code Section 7009 defines “Interment”:
“‘Interment’ means the disposition of human remains by entombment or burial in a cemetery or, in the case of cremated remains, by inurnment, placement or burial in a cemetery, or burial at sea [].”
“Temp” is not a valid disposition.
- I don't really know what that means, but the words temporary and not valid....
Any new news on this?
On this one he even signs it as Michael Joe Jackson.
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Hi, pepper. MJ has apparently used both names, Joe and Joseph, for legal matters. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
And "The name!" seems to have been a hot topic in more than one thread. The following thread includes a post I shared on yesterday containing a clip of court proceedings in which MJ states his middle name as Joseph: http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=121&t=19418&p=336708#p336708.
The first thing I noticed about these two signatures of Michael's is that the first one, looks like whoever signed it is left handed as the script slants to the left, and in the second one, the script slants to the right, like someone who is right handed! Once again that brings up the fact that either Michael can write with both hands, or maybe there really are 2 different Michael's, one left handed and one right handed??? ( one Joe and one Joseph??) Any thoughts friends??
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Hello mjj4ever777 !!!!!
Finally someone who noticed the things I noticed,THANK YOU <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> .
First of all I want to say that I'm not here on this topic to force someone to believe what I BELIEVE.MICHAEL JOE JACKSON AND MICHAEL JOSEPH JACKSON are real names and are 2 different persons.Believe me it was hard for me to accept the reality but this is going for a long time ,lol <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) --> .I noticed for the first time when I looked to the BAD TOUR.The BAD TOUR is my favorite,I can watch it day and night <!-- smj_bad/ -->mj_bad/<!-- smj_bad/ --> .The doubles were just a diversion for the REAL TRUTH.Walter Joseph Jackson loves his family very much and most of people don't know him.
Even at the MEMORIAL we had some clues in our faces.The big photo with the little Michael had no beauty spot on his face.That's was the difference betewn them two.Ofcourse there are more but you have to see,to believe.Try to go back and think,2 is a MAGIC NUMBER is it????
Yes it was hard for them,only God and them knows how hard <!-- s:( -->:(<!-- s:( --> .
"I said you had to do it. You said you didn't want to. We talked about it, and we agreed that maybe I could help.
I said you were wrong. You insisted you were right. We held each other's hand, and right and wrong disappeared.
I began crying. You began crying, too. We embraced, and between us grew a flower of peace.
How I love this mystery called We! Where does it come from, out of thin air? I thought about this mystery, and I realized something : We must be love's favorite child, because until I reach out for you, We is not even there. It arrives on the wings of tenderness : it speaks through our silent understanding. When I laugh at myself, it smiles. When I forgive you, it dances in jubilation.
So We is not a choice anymore, not if you and I want to grow with one another. We unites us, increases our strength; it picks up our burden when you and I are ready to let it fall. The truth is that you and I would have given up long ago, but We won't let us. It is too wise. "Look into your hearts," it says. "What do you see? Not you and I, but only We."
I LOVE YOU ,I and WE <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> !!!!!