Here is my opinion on the white lies he has told and on the things he kept private about himself.... <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
How many of us go around saying how many diets we've been on, or how much we weigh or?.... much less do we go talk about it on TV for millions to hear.....
So personnaly I'm not certain if this really is weighing in on anything in our hoax investigation. But maybe I'm not looking at it from the proper angle... <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
those videos are awsome well done!! <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
i'm sure you've all watched dirty dancing.. well jennifer grey who played baby had a nose job after staring in 80's films.. and she's hardly worked since due to it changing her total look.. which i'm pointing out that something as simple as a nose job can change your whole face..
Thank you!
Now I'm collecting photos to my third vid - smiling Michael, singing, making faces etc...
He really, really changed only his nose...
Tabloids are dumb... They don't see anything...
I believe he had nose jobs and plastic surgeries, I always believed that, in the chin, eyes, nose and mouth and I hear people arguing about it and all though I believe that, how is it hurting me? Cher had plastic surgery, so did Kenny Rogers. You don't hear about that. The reason MJ lied so much was because look how he was constantly being ridiculed. As for what's true or what's not about Blanket's mother, I don't care. It has nothing to do with me. MJ deserves some privacy in his life and about the plastic surgeries and the lying about it, it doesn't change the way I feel about him. He is a wonderful human being and that's what matters most.
Regarding Mike "lying" in the Batshit documentary I'd like to point out our latest blog. That theory is built around Mind Control, which causes Dissociative Identity Disorder (alter egos). You will have to read the entire blog and additional information about Illuminati and Mind Control in order to get the full picture.
I'm posting this particular section of our latest blog, as we addressed the Batshit documentary in relation to Dissociative Identity Disorder:
In case more than 2 procedures took place and if Mike is indeed suffering from Dissociative Identity Disorder then he was not lying in the Batshit documentary. The alters would each tell their own truth.
We made a summery of our blog in 5 videos. Please watch them all, but I'm posting part 5 here as it's about D.I.D. and the Batshit documentary.
In case more than 2 procedures took place and if Mike is indeed suffering from Dissociative Identity Disorder then he was not lying in the Batshit documentary. The alters would each tell their own truth.
Well, tons of people were tuning in to see Michael Jackson's story, not some alters, so of course they're going to assume he's lying. And technically he- or should I say they, are, because those things they're talking about only happened in their minds, right?
This all just feels so wrong, I wish I could look at that and just see one, normal person again.. it's so intensely depressing that the person I've looked up to the most didn't even have a regular brain for most of his life.. Illumi-a**holes..
Personally i don't care about how many surgerys he had... like he said in the interview with Oprah back in 93, people have surgerys everyday, but noone writes about that...
Michael could have had a 100 plastic surgerys and i couldn't care less... It's his life and his skin...
Famous or nonfamous people lies everyday... IMO
I agree with both of you whole heartedly. People lie all of the time. I don't care about Michael's personal life at all. I wasn't a part of it, I never knew him or knew why he made the decisions he made. All I know is that he made great music and shortfilms and that is more than enough for me. People living in glass houses are forever throwing stones. If you point your finger at someone how many fingers are pointing back at you? Michael isn't the only famous person that has lied. Quite frankly, I truly believe this is the norm in the Entertainment Industry (all forums). Keep the Faith!
Honestly, if I were him I would have "lied", too. Imagine to "walk in his shoes" for a lifetime - everybody at any time just wanted to get a piece of and know everthing about him...
But he did not owe anything to anybody. He just was no public property. A human person deserves some privacy, even MJ.
Since he learned to distinguish his "public persona" from the private person from a very early age there is nothing wrong with playing with mystical distraction for "image" reasons ... that`s entertainment business / Hollywood / tabloid`s stuff. He grew up on this.
Media (i.e. tabloids) were just dealing with the image - and he just knew how to play this game.
Once he started to mistrust Bashit, I am sure he really did not care anymore since there was nothing to gain anyway ...
I don't know about the plastic surgeries it's not my business and neither is the paternity of his kids he was a wonderful father to those kids and he was their daddy. My nephews are half black and half white and they are olive skin almost like Italian and their cousins are half black and half white and the daughter has blonde hair. My cousin's boy is very simalar colored to Prince in his hair and skin color so just cause they are light doesn't mean they arn't his biologically. People adopt children everyday so no one questions Brad and Angelina when they adopted 3 children. It's the kind of parenting that is important I once read that Blanket loved Christmas so Michael would have Chirstmas decorations up year round so they can have that joy always. I love that
Doesn't matter if you think he can hide his personal life or that he does not what the world to know how many surgeries he had... he could have said I do not what to talk about it, but instead he choose to lie... that is the most important thing here he told not 1 but 2 lies...
To be honest, I think his personal life and whether he reveals the truth in those areas is his choice and really off limits. His kids, his marriages, his plastic surgeries, really have nothing to do with any of us or the world in general. What Michael does in his private life is Michael's business. Michael outside of his personal life is an entertainer and we can freely comment on his talent, dancing, singing, performances because he presents that for all the world to enjoy, to like or dislike.
I couldn't agree more! I'm not bashing this topic, but I agree with you Happy Feet, his personal life, should stay personal, and we shouldn't dig too much. I don't think he'd feel comfortable with half the topics on this forum, but as long as they aren't too outrageous, it's fine.
First Batshit had not any right to answer Michael these questions. It is highly personal, it's privacy.
I don't know but I believe Michael when he says he only had 2 nose interventions, that his face has naturally changed with time it's not odd to me. Add his skin disorder and it's enough for people to invent crazy things and loose reality. I really find Michael attractive, he has always been.
Regarding his kids and the way they were conceived <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> wow I remember that I hardly could watch this part it's a so private thing, I felt more than angry against this Batshit who moreover brought Michael to tears !! I just can't tolerate this guy <!-- s:evil: -->:evil:<!-- s:evil: -->
I think that sometimes you have to lie for important reasons, you have no choice than hiding the truth, the lie is then acceptable as it is not harmful to anyone. Only God can read in peolpe's hearts and be the Judge of what we do and how we do it.
To be honest, I think his personal life and whether he reveals the truth in those areas is his choice and really off limits. His kids, his marriages, his plastic surgeries, really have nothing to do with any of us or the world in general. What Michael does in his private life is Michael's business. Michael outside of his personal life is an entertainer and we can freely comment on his talent, dancing, singing, performances because he presents that for all the world to enjoy, to like or dislike.
Whoever Blanket's mother is, it's none of my business. If he married Debbie Rowe for PR reasons or whatever, it's none of my business. If he's had 1,2,3....10 plastic surgeries, it's none of my business. If he has chosen to not be forthright with the above information, then that's none of my buisness. I respect his privacy and concealment in this matters. There's not many people I can think of that broadcast all of the plastic surgeries they have had for the world to know, nor many other celebrities who have had children in alternative circumstances broadcasting the truth in these matters also.
I dunno. I guess for me there isn't a fine line but a very distinct mark when it comes to crossing the boundary of a persons personal and professional life. We really don't have to be told the truth in these matters if a person chooses not to tell us. There are areas in my private life that remain private and not public and even if asked questions regarding it, I keep it this way.
This probably wasn't much help then <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> Sorry, but that stuff and him lying about it, doesn't bother me because it has nothing to do with me and he has every right to not reveal it if he doesn't want to.
I don't understand the point of the topic. First of all, MJ is only human. For anyone to make a big deal about him lieing about facial surgery or anything for that matter - has forgotten that maybe he sometimes got sick and tired of everyone asking stupid questions, or everyone wanting to make him into a perfect godlike creature. Yes, he is our MJ, the only MJ, and we love everything about him - but that should also include loving his need to not be honest sometimes. He doesn't owe us anything. We follow him and love him because we choose to do so. We have all with held a truth, or distorted the truth, or even lied once in a while - often because we just felt there was no need for the questioning party to know the truth or facts. Just because the world loves him and is unquestioning in faith to him, does not mean he doesn't have the right to say or hide what he wants to hide.
I think MJ liked to play around a bit with the media, since they played around with him too!!! How many other celebreties have been asked "how many plastic surgeries have you had done???? No one. And as far as him not wanting to use his own sperm, have you ever thought that maybe MJ didn't want to pass on his medical conditions to his own children????? Growing up with vitiligo was very difficult for him, and passing it on to biological children would be extremely difficult as well. And what about the condition "Lupus"???
Would he really want to pass on those genes if he didn't have to????
MJ has not lied to us.......The family and the others involved in this hoax have lied !!!! And all for a good cause. Hell, I would lie too if it meant saving my son or brothers life.
As always, with love. L.O.V.E xox
I don´t want to get into the surgery matter.
But we know he lied for shure about the sleeping hyperbaric chamber and even though he included it in the Leave Me Alone video like complainning about the press made up stories.
Yes, I think he likes jokes and playing around with the press.
I can clearly see the naughty naughty boy side of him.
Like maybe playing this hoax? <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
He must have told a lot of lies in his life, just to be able to have a life. No one can blame him for that.
About the nose surgery, I think 2 surgeries is not even that far off. If you look at this pic from 2005, the nose just looks the same as the BAD nose. So either he changed it a 100 times back and forth, or he really didn't have that much surgery done and used (OMG, I am going to say it again!) DOUBLES.
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
I don´t think MJ have many surgeries either.
He was a pioneer somehow having one (modern cosmetic surgery).
Since then cosmetic surgery has become more and more regular in the common citizen and vips,
unfortunately.
I allways think
"look all that guys! they have destroyed their face expression and they all look the same!"
which is not MJ case at all.
So let´s say, my theory is that the standardization of cosmetic surgery, has evidenced that if you take lots of it, you become looking alike the rest of the people with it.
Standarization of people abusing surgery has evidenced MJ is not one of them.
Not even votox...
Yeah I noticed these things too. The plastic sugery, well I feel like he had 3 nose jobs and a chin cleft, but I don't believe all the other crazy stuff people say he's had done. But why should it matter if he did anyway? It's his business. People have surgery all the time! I think MJ had to lie though because imagine all the crap he would of got for admitting it. I don't think we'll ever understand how much he had to deal with.
And, about Blanket. I found that very odd. He says that he knew the woman and they had a relationship then claims he has no idea who she is. I kinda feel that he did know her, but didn't want to say. He gets shy about these things and he'd get hassled about it and everyone would be on a search for Blanket's mother. I guess she didn't want to be in the spotlight, and he was sweet enough to respect that, even if it meant lying. I mean, look at Debbie, she can't get away from the press now! Once again, we'll never really understand what MJ went through, and like anyone else he too wanted a private life. Either way, it's clear Blanket is definately his son.
Everyone makes MJ out to be a complete angel who would never tell a lie but come on, he's just human! Ok, maybe he's an angelic human <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> He needs to keep things private too. If Michael was capable of keeping secrets like the mother of his child secret for so long, if he really wanted to he could keep other things secret. He's MJ! That's why things like this make me feel he is totally capable of hiding a hoax <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> Granted, keeping a child's mother secret and faking your death are completely different, but as long as everyone's willing to keep their mouth shut, you've got the connections and you're doing this for good reasons then ofcourse it's possible!
As far as the surgeries go i DO believe Michael if he said he only had 2 surgeries he only had 2. He said that back in 1993 when Oprah interviewed him and then again with MB. He hadnothing done to his eyes, his lips or anything else i dont think. People's face's change! Some have a "baby" face well into their 20's and 30's and once they hit say 40 it starts to totally change shape. JMO but i dont think he had anything else done. Even if he did i dont care. I love him just the same
Then the Blanket issue well that caught me off guard when he said he didnt know the woman and then he said he did. I totally feel he did know her to some degree. I dont believe he would randomly choose a woman as a surrogate without knowing her somehow. Again JMO and i believe Blanket is his. Always have
Same with Prince and Paris. Michael IS their father, yes even biologically. Just LOOK at those kids. Prince and Blanket both have his eyes. And Prince also has that same pointy ight ear like MJ too.
Yeah I noticed these things too. The plastic sugery, well I feel like he had 3 nose jobs and a chin cleft, but I don't believe all the other crazy stuff people say he's had done. But why should it matter if he did anyway? It's his business. People have surgery all the time! I think MJ had to lie though because imagine all the crap he would of got for admitting it. I don't think we'll ever understand how much he had to deal with.
And, about Blanket. I found that very odd. He says that he knew the woman and they had a relationship then claims he has no idea who she is. I kinda feel that he did know her, but didn't want to say. He gets shy about these things and he'd get hassled about it and everyone would be on a search for Blanket's mother. I guess she didn't want to be in the spotlight, and he was sweet enough to respect that, even if it meant lying. I mean, look at Debbie, she can't get away from the press now! Once again, we'll never really understand what MJ went through, and like anyone else he too wanted a private life. Either way, it's clear Blanket is definately his son.
Everyone makes MJ out to be a complete angel who would never tell a lie but come on, he's just human! Ok, maybe he's an angelic human <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> He needs to keep things private too. If Michael was capable of keeping secrets like the mother of his child secret for so long, if he really wanted to he could keep other things secret. He's MJ! That's why things like this make me feel he is totally capable of hiding a hoax <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> Granted, keeping a child's mother secret and faking your death are completely different, but as long as everyone's willing to keep their mouth shut, you've got the connections and you're doing this for good reasons then ofcourse it's possible!
As far as the surgeries go i DO believe Michael if he said he only had 2 surgeries he only had 2. He said that back in 1993 when Oprah interviewed him and then again with MB. He hadnothing done to his eyes, his lips or anything else i dont think. People's face's change! Some have a "baby" face well into their 20's and 30's and once they hit say 40 it starts to totally change shape. JMO but i dont think he had anything else done. Even if he did i dont care. I love him just the same
Then the Blanket issue well that caught me off guard when he said he didnt know the woman and then he said he did. I totally feel he did know her to some degree. I dont believe he would randomly choose a woman as a surrogate without knowing her somehow. Again JMO and i believe Blanket is his. Always have
Same with Prince and Paris. Michael IS their father, yes even biologically. Just LOOK at those kids. Prince and Blanket both have his eyes. And Prince also has that same pointy ight ear like MJ too.
I agree to. Those children are his. The fact that Prince and Paris have lighter skin mean nothing since their biological mother is fair skinned. I see Michael in those children. I also remember those interviews and I felt at the time that he was just protecting the identity of Blankets mother. It could be that after the first interview he started to realize that he wouldn't be left alone until the identity was known so in order to squelch the talk he decided to say "she's a surrogate". How can you track down someone like that? Also - I believe he only had two surgeries on his nose. I've known people who have had more than one nose surgery for medical reasons. It's not strange. Also, we don't hear much about Joan Collins, Kenny Rogers, Pricilla Presley, etc and their plastic surgery was not good so why all of the ongoing drama made for Michael? I've always laughed at the stories of Michael's prostheic noses. Haven't people learned anything after the hyperbaric chamber stories? <!-- s --><!-- s -->
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hesouttamylife, YOU ARE TOO COOL !
yes, he shoud've said that to bashithead and lil' miss oprah
what if the real MJ did only have 2 nose jobs
and the doubles or impersonator that we saw sometimes and we thought it was him
How many of us go around saying how many diets we've been on, or how much we weigh or?.... much less do we go talk about it on TV for millions to hear.....
So personnaly I'm not certain if this really is weighing in on anything in our hoax investigation. But maybe I'm not looking at it from the proper angle... <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
those videos are awsome well done!! <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
i'm sure you've all watched dirty dancing.. well jennifer grey who played baby had a nose job after staring in 80's films.. and she's hardly worked since due to it changing her total look.. which i'm pointing out that something as simple as a nose job can change your whole face..
Now I'm collecting photos to my third vid - smiling Michael, singing, making faces etc...
He really, really changed only his nose...
Tabloids are dumb... They don't see anything...
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I'm posting this particular section of our latest blog, as we addressed the Batshit documentary in relation to Dissociative Identity Disorder:
In case more than 2 procedures took place and if Mike is indeed suffering from Dissociative Identity Disorder then he was not lying in the Batshit documentary. The alters would each tell their own truth.
We made a summery of our blog in 5 videos. Please watch them all, but I'm posting part 5 here as it's about D.I.D. and the Batshit documentary.
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this theory has played on my mind since i read it!! it all fits in.. yet it feels so bizzar!! i dunno.. <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
-They "Care" because it will make money anyways.
Well, tons of people were tuning in to see Michael Jackson's story, not some alters, so of course they're going to assume he's lying. And technically he- or should I say they, are, because those things they're talking about only happened in their minds, right?
This all just feels so wrong, I wish I could look at that and just see one, normal person again.. it's so intensely depressing that the person I've looked up to the most didn't even have a regular brain for most of his life.. Illumi-a**holes..
I agree with both of you whole heartedly. People lie all of the time. I don't care about Michael's personal life at all. I wasn't a part of it, I never knew him or knew why he made the decisions he made. All I know is that he made great music and shortfilms and that is more than enough for me. People living in glass houses are forever throwing stones. If you point your finger at someone how many fingers are pointing back at you? Michael isn't the only famous person that has lied. Quite frankly, I truly believe this is the norm in the Entertainment Industry (all forums). Keep the Faith!
But he did not owe anything to anybody. He just was no public property. A human person deserves some privacy, even MJ.
Since he learned to distinguish his "public persona" from the private person from a very early age there is nothing wrong with playing with mystical distraction for "image" reasons ... that`s entertainment business / Hollywood / tabloid`s stuff. He grew up on this.
Media (i.e. tabloids) were just dealing with the image - and he just knew how to play this game.
Once he started to mistrust Bashit, I am sure he really did not care anymore since there was nothing to gain anyway ...
I couldn't agree more! I'm not bashing this topic, but I agree with you Happy Feet, his personal life, should stay personal, and we shouldn't dig too much. I don't think he'd feel comfortable with half the topics on this forum, but as long as they aren't too outrageous, it's fine.
I don't know but I believe Michael when he says he only had 2 nose interventions, that his face has naturally changed with time it's not odd to me. Add his skin disorder and it's enough for people to invent crazy things and loose reality. I really find Michael attractive, he has always been.
Regarding his kids and the way they were conceived <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> wow I remember that I hardly could watch this part it's a so private thing, I felt more than angry against this Batshit who moreover brought Michael to tears !! I just can't tolerate this guy <!-- s:evil: -->:evil:<!-- s:evil: -->
I think that sometimes you have to lie for important reasons, you have no choice than hiding the truth, the lie is then acceptable as it is not harmful to anyone. Only God can read in peolpe's hearts and be the Judge of what we do and how we do it.
God Bless You
I completly agree with you. Thanks <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
Would he really want to pass on those genes if he didn't have to????
MJ has not lied to us.......The family and the others involved in this hoax have lied !!!! And all for a good cause. Hell, I would lie too if it meant saving my son or brothers life.
As always, with love. L.O.V.E xox
But we know he lied for shure about the sleeping hyperbaric chamber and even though he included it in the Leave Me Alone video like complainning about the press made up stories.
Yes, I think he likes jokes and playing around with the press.
I can clearly see the naughty naughty boy side of him.
Like maybe playing this hoax? <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
By the way those genes are wonderful, no?
About the nose surgery, I think 2 surgeries is not even that far off. If you look at this pic from 2005, the nose just looks the same as the BAD nose. So either he changed it a 100 times back and forth, or he really didn't have that much surgery done and used (OMG, I am going to say it again!) DOUBLES.
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."He was a pioneer somehow having one (modern cosmetic surgery).
Since then cosmetic surgery has become more and more regular in the common citizen and vips,
unfortunately.
I allways think
"look all that guys! they have destroyed their face expression and they all look the same!"
which is not MJ case at all.
So let´s say, my theory is that the standardization of cosmetic surgery, has evidenced that if you take lots of it, you become looking alike the rest of the people with it.
Standarization of people abusing surgery has evidenced MJ is not one of them.
Not even votox...
As far as the surgeries go i DO believe Michael if he said he only had 2 surgeries he only had 2. He said that back in 1993 when Oprah interviewed him and then again with MB. He hadnothing done to his eyes, his lips or anything else i dont think. People's face's change! Some have a "baby" face well into their 20's and 30's and once they hit say 40 it starts to totally change shape. JMO but i dont think he had anything else done. Even if he did i dont care. I love him just the same
Then the Blanket issue well that caught me off guard when he said he didnt know the woman and then he said he did. I totally feel he did know her to some degree. I dont believe he would randomly choose a woman as a surrogate without knowing her somehow. Again JMO and i believe Blanket is his. Always have
Same with Prince and Paris. Michael IS their father, yes even biologically. Just LOOK at those kids. Prince and Blanket both have his eyes. And Prince also has that same pointy ight ear like MJ too.
I agree to. Those children are his. The fact that Prince and Paris have lighter skin mean nothing since their biological mother is fair skinned. I see Michael in those children. I also remember those interviews and I felt at the time that he was just protecting the identity of Blankets mother. It could be that after the first interview he started to realize that he wouldn't be left alone until the identity was known so in order to squelch the talk he decided to say "she's a surrogate". How can you track down someone like that? Also - I believe he only had two surgeries on his nose. I've known people who have had more than one nose surgery for medical reasons. It's not strange. Also, we don't hear much about Joan Collins, Kenny Rogers, Pricilla Presley, etc and their plastic surgery was not good so why all of the ongoing drama made for Michael? I've always laughed at the stories of Michael's prostheic noses. Haven't people learned anything after the hyperbaric chamber stories? <!-- s
That´s the thin, that the hyperbaric chamber seems to be his own lie.