Has this been debunked?? Photoshopped ambulance at entrance of UCLA ???

2good2btrue2good2btrue Posts: 4,210
edited June 2012 in General Hoax Investigation
Just curious...has this been debunked before????  Why does there seem to be 2 different 71 ambulances at UCLA on arrival????<br /><br />I have posted the evidence....and please don't tell me it is about the lighting.......The original Ambulance No 71, has stripped doors, both inside and out...<br /><br />Also, the reflector at the bottom corner of the Ambulance, seems to just disappear...and vanish!!!!<br /><br />I have attached the relevant pictures....Any ideas???<br /><br />1346_17_06_12_1_13_16.gif<br /><br />1346_17_06_12_12_32_18.jpeg<br /><br />1346_17_06_12_12_34_21.jpeg<br /><br />1346_17_06_12_1_58_35.jpeg
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  • MissGMissG Posts: 7,403
    You know what? Synchronicity took place here. I was checking those pics earlier this morning.<br /><br />It was said that the door changed color due to a high lighted flash, but still we don´t know.<br /><br />It is so frustrating that after almost 3 years one can´t debunk this.
  • Australian MJ BeLIEverAustralian MJ BeLIEver Posts: 2,349
    on 1339945905:
    <br /><br />It was said that the door changed color due to a high lighted flash, but still we don´t know.<br /><br />
    <br /><br />LOL yet look close and the rim / door frame remained red. only part of the door turned white because of high flash...  :suspect: :suspect: :icon_lol: :icon_lol: <br /><br /><br />i know. frustrating and an unsolved mystery!
  • msgitmmsgitm Posts: 186
    All one big fat illusion!  Just think of the footage shown in court of Doc Murray leaving the hospital AFTER Michael was pronounced 'dead'.  Not a fan in sight.  Where were all the thousands of fans?  If none of them were there when Murray LEFT, which is impossible, why believe this ARRIVAL footage?  I think this part of the story was all filmed in advance.  Probably by MJ's friend, Ben<br />
  • msgitmmsgitm Posts: 186
    PS... I can't believe people can be so morbid as to want a picture taken with the paramedics & the ambulance that carried a 'dead' Michael Jackson.  It's beyond sick.
  • MissGMissG Posts: 7,403
    The door of the ambo is shopped, of course. Crazy how the same pic is so different in the different medias.<br /><br />"Not a fan in sight"<br /><br />Curious enough. The fan pics circulating were those of the members of that TINI group, whos "leader" makes a living as a photographer.<br />We have not heard about them for some time, btw.<br /><br />We looked at the pics sooo much, but what we know is that some were shopped, just that.<br /><br /><br />
  • VeryLittleSusieVeryLittleSusie Posts: 1,483
    What about  the shirts and suits of those men? They also seem to be affected by the flash light... Not only the door.  Take a closer look.
  • marumjjmarumjj Posts: 1,027
    I passed these images by twitter (please download and larger) were published by the line 17 on 25/06/09<br />See the credits and the other photo organization "date"<br /><br />scaled.php?server=412&filename=17online.jpg&res=landing<br /><br />scaled.php?server=52&filename=ambulanciaconcreditos.jpg&res=landing<br /><br />
  • CCCC Posts: 2,136
    marumjj who do you think is the person steping out in the las picture you post? why is the bodyguard protect him??<br />PS: soy de argentina y vos? vi que hablas castellano...
  • marumjjmarumjj Posts: 1,027
    Hey CC if I'm also from Argentina. Look for me is MJ who enters (or can be a double) which is then "sit" on the table, surely this issue was already discussed here but I put it like to graph. You can see his ear and his hair tied up as usual.<br /><br />
  • marumjjmarumjj Posts: 1,027
    Here's another arrested with images, we can see better.<br />
    <br />                              :bearhug:<br />                scaled.php?server=844&filename=tequieroms.jpg&res=landing
  • Billie JBillie J Posts: 250
    on 1340020945:
    <br />Hey CC if I'm also from Argentina. Look for me is MJ who enters (or can be a double) which is then "sit" on the table, surely this issue was already discussed here but I put it like to graph. You can see his ear and his hair tied up as usual.<br /><br />
    <br />
    <br /><br />And the guy that seems to be Michael, looks like he s wearing black sunglasses :WTF:
  • ElsaElsa Posts: 341
    Another problem with these photos - can anyone see a white vehicle, maybe an ambulance, reflected in the frame above the hospital entrance and in the glass of the right door?  Shouldn't that boxy red ambulance have a flat roof that wouldn't be visible at that angle?   
  • becbec Posts: 6,387
    It's flash photography vs. no flash. There's no mystery.<br /><br />Reflections are as hard to nail down as chocolate syrup running down a wall though. Look at the background in a mirror for example. You'll find nothing concrete in those reflections.
  • sweetsunsetwithMJsweetsunsetwithMJ Posts: 2,626
    But Michael was supposed to be the driver, so why should they try to cover him if he was in disguise?  :icon_exclaim:
  • wishingstarwishingstar Posts: 2,927
    The door to the ambulance in interesting.  A few things for me are:<br /><br />- We see the striped door fine....it's the right side door, correct?  It's also the outside part of that door, not inside, correct?<br />At the angle we see it, I don't believe it's possible to see that much of the left side door.  Which, if we were seeing the        inside stripe, it would have to be.  The logistics of it are all wrong.  Think about it.....if someone were getting out of the ambulance (the guard holding the jacket up makes it look like someone is)....if it's the left side door (in order to see the inside it would have to be)....the jacket being held up would have to be in front of the door area.  Otherwise, that left door is too closed for anyone to get out.....the angle is wrong.    So, the white door must be the right side....with a flash or reflection.  <br /><br />- That being said, I do find it interesting that a flash would have been used.  A flash does no good a distance, nor in daylight.  Even if it was used, we'd see it in other surfaces.  <br /><br />- I doubt it was the sun's reflection while the door was moving.  Look at the shadow lines.  The large pole on the left side...the one that's part of the building structure.  It shows a very light shadow going well off to it's left.  The direction of the sun's path wouldn't have hit the door at that time.  Now, it could be just a reflective surface from being moved.  It just doesn't seem logical it would be from the angle.  The car in front, seems to be moving.  At the time it passes in what might be the right spot for the reflection, the white is gone.  <br /><br />- Also...look to the side of the building behind that large pole.  Two white-ish squares on the wall....switch plates or something.  One seems to go away.  Why?  Those are for sure stationary objects...not swinging doors at all.  <br /><br />Anyways.....this is the stuff of legend when talking about the hoax......June 25 is full of this type of thing.  I love it! : ) <br />The ambulance has always been a favorite of mine.......thanks for the revisit!<br /><br />Blessings!
  • sweetsunsetwithMJsweetsunsetwithMJ Posts: 2,626
    on 1340026661:
    <br />It's flash photography vs. no flash. There's no mystery.<br /><br />Reflections are as hard to nail down as chocolate syrup running down a wall though. Look at the background in a mirror for example. You'll find nothing concrete in those reflections.<br />
    <br /><br />Is it the car passing through and taking a picture using flash the one causing the white reflection on the ambulance's door?
  • becbec Posts: 6,387
    I always deduced it was purposeful because of the exact conversation we are having here.<br /><br />Although, every photographer knows, if you leave your camera set on auto-flash, the flash goes off sometimes when the lighting is just slightly less then ideal, yes even in broad daylight, prompting you to go "damn auto-flash" and subsequently turn it off for the next shot.
  • CCCC Posts: 2,136
    i think michael is the one that steps out at last, the one the bodyguard is trying to protect with his jacket... not the one in the bed...
  • SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400
    on 1340037474:
    <br />i think michael is the one that steps out at last, the one the bodyguard is trying to protect with his jacket... not the one in the bed...<br />
    <br /><br />Nah, i don't even think he was anywhere near the ambulance on the 25th, or even the house. I think he left at night, you can actually see his car leaving on the security cameras they showed in court.

    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

  • hesouttamylifehesouttamylife Posts: 5,393
    I agree,  I think MJ was long gone from there way before that story broke. 
  • sweetsunsetwithMJsweetsunsetwithMJ Posts: 2,626
    on 1340060028:
    <br />I agree,  I think MJ was long gone from there way before that story broke. <br />
    <br /><br />Why? On this hoax it comes to playing with media, isn't it? so it wouldn't be unreasonable for Michael to challenge the media ASSociatES, I think he likes to play and it would be very exited for him to be in the core of the scene  :affraid:
  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    And risk in this way, I do not believe
  • becbec Posts: 6,387
    Hoaxing your death to the world is a huge risk.
  • marumjjmarumjj Posts: 1,027
    We return to the theory of a double on the site?  :Pulling_hair:<br /><br />                scaled.php?server=844&filename=tequieroms.jpg&res=landing
  • hesouttamylifehesouttamylife Posts: 5,393
    What time was Farrah Fawcet pronounced dead?  Just curious.
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