I dont think LMP ever said this publicly...she was asked soo many times about their sex life and she just always acknowledged that there was one...the most descriptive she ever got was with Howard Stern...but I think I remember Nic Cage saying this.
I remember Nic Cage saying that as well, but I would bet money that LMP never said that, as much as I wish she did. <!-- s --><!-- s -->
when he wasnt obsessing over little kids- maybe that was the bit the paper made up but rest was true? Was she really that cruel they stayed friends afterall??!! <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
There's no way of telling if she really said this or not. I don't think she would say it publically. But she is known for saying off the wall and taboo things. I don't know. But I do know that it's probably true haha. I can't imagine going from Michael Jackson to Nicholas Cage...... Nothing against Cage, he's a great actor, but I mean... you can't really compare the two on any level, they are so differen, and I imagine that goes for the sexual level as well. I always hear people say that you can tell if a man is good in bed based on whether or not he can dance, lol. If that's the case then.... watch out!! Can't even imagine. Not even going to go there because I'm already blushing. haha. <!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: --> <!-- s --><!-- s -->
There's no way of telling if she really said this or not. I don't think she would say it publically. But she is known for saying off the wall and taboo things. I don't know. But I do know that it's probably true haha. I can't imagine going from Michael Jackson to Nicholas Cage...... Nothing against Cage, he's a great actor, but I mean... you can't really compare the two on any level, they are so differen, and I imagine that goes for the sexual level as well. I always hear people say that you can tell if a man is good in bed based on whether or not he can dance, lol. If that's the case then.... watch out!! Can't even imagine. Not even going to go there because I'm already blushing. haha. <!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: --> <!-- s --><!-- s -->
Disclaimer: This merely psychological/sociological observation is not intended to be racial or discriminating in any way!
You know, guys, I think statements like these hit the centre of MJ`s special status in the overall public:
Almost ALL women just love(d) him because they intuitively sense(d) his - subliminal - animalistic sexuality.
And that`s exactly what triggered the basic fear of white men: envy of black man`s "natural abilities" and being afraid of not bearing comparism with them.
Since he liked to act on his sexual attitude MJ was probably not aware of this huge impact.
Remember the duet "The girl is mine" (late 80s) when he playfully competed with Paul Mc Cartney: at the end MJ is winning (quoting his lyrics: "After loving me she said she just can`t love another" - well, that is it!).
And shortly after he bought the ATV-catalogue including the ("white") Beatles-songs what made him a major player in the entertainment industry; beating the ("white") establishment in entertainment business again (besides his own incredible success as an unique artist, of course).
No other black entertainer ever dared to go as far as he went. And I am almost certain that he was just thinking of good business, unaware of the fact that he was "not supposed to develope such a huge power /force / impact".
Are there any more questions why there is such a huge "haters front" (mainly males, btw) ? And why lots of them were just too happy to "question his sexuality" and jump on the "p."-track?
(P.S.: I am a white, female, european woman lacking any personal experience on this topic ...)
Disclaimer: This merely psychological/sociological observation is not intended to be racial or discriminating in any way!
You know, guys, I think statements like these hit the centre of MJ`s special status in the overall public:
Almost ALL women just love(d) him because they intuitively sense(d) his - subliminal - animalistic sexuality.
And that`s exactly what triggered the basic fear of white men: envy of black man`s "natural abilities" and being afraid of not bearing comparism with them.
Since he liked to act on his sexual attitude MJ was probably not aware of this huge impact.
Remember the duet "The girl is mine" (late 80s) when he playfully competed with Paul Mc Cartney: at the end MJ is winning (quoting his lyrics: "After loving me she said she just can`t love another" - well, that is it!).
And shortly after he bought the ATV-catalogue including the ("white") Beatles-songs what made him a major player in the entertainment industry; beating the ("white") establishment in entertainment business again (besides his own incredible success as an unique artist, of course).
No other black entertainer ever dared to go as far as he went. And I am almost certain that he was just thinking of good business, unaware of the fact that he was "not supposed to develope such a huge power /force / impact".
Are there any more questions why there is such a huge "haters front" (mainly males, btw) ? And why lots of them were just too happy to "question his sexuality" and jump on the "p."-track?
(P.S.: I am a white, female, european woman lacking any personal experience on this topic ...)
Aintnosunshine:
As someone who has studied this issue professionally, research and academia backs up a lot of what you are saying in terms of race, color, and power issues. Many professional journals and books have been written about the subject and several universities also specialize in this particular subject. Often times our racial stereotypes and predjudices are unconscious, and, consequently our thoughts and actions based on these predjudices can be unconscious, as well. Education and understanding of these issues are critical in racial understanding and relations. I applaud you for your insight about this subject.
...she was asked soo many times about their sex life and she just always acknowledged that there was one...the most descriptive she ever got was with Howard Stern...
I'm not so sure about that. Although I haven't read J. Randy Taraborrelli's entire book The Magic, The Madness, The Whole Story, I came across an authorized excerpt online shortly after June 25 where Lisa Marie allegedly did acknowledge more than just the fact that she and Michael had a sex life.
She included details about the experience, if you believe Taraborrelli. Although they weren't sexual or pornographic in nature, I found them even more disrespectful of Michael's privacy than if they had been explicit. It was personal stuff that Lisa Marie's acquaintances and the general public just don't need to know.
However, I agree with you that it's unlikely Lisa Marie publicly said that about Michael and Cage and kids and whatnot.
Lisa Marie talked about their sex life in a book "Child Bride" . It's a book about her mother, Priscilla Presley, but in the end there's a part about her , she talked about her marriage with Michael and she said they had a very active sexual life, that he was very ...passionate, right? <!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: --> So she talked about it, she even talked about a couple of details..... <!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: -->
Disclaimer: This merely psychological/sociological observation is not intended to be racial or discriminating in any way!
You know, guys, I think statements like these hit the centre of MJ`s special status in the overall public:
Almost ALL women just love(d) him because they intuitively sense(d) his - subliminal - animalistic sexuality.
And that`s exactly what triggered the basic fear of white men: envy of black man`s "natural abilities" and being afraid of not bearing comparism with them.
Since he liked to act on his sexual attitude MJ was probably not aware of this huge impact.
Remember the duet "The girl is mine" (late 80s) when he playfully competed with Paul Mc Cartney: at the end MJ is winning (quoting his lyrics: "After loving me she said she just can`t love another" - well, that is it!).
And shortly after he bought the ATV-catalogue including the ("white") Beatles-songs what made him a major player in the entertainment industry; beating the ("white") establishment in entertainment business again (besides his own incredible success as an unique artist, of course).
No other black entertainer ever dared to go as far as he went. And I am almost certain that he was just thinking of good business, unaware of the fact that he was "not supposed to develope such a huge power /force / impact".
Are there any more questions why there is such a huge "haters front" (mainly males, btw) ? And why lots of them were just too happy to "question his sexuality" and jump on the "p."-track?
(P.S.: I am a white, female, european woman lacking any personal experience on this topic ...)
Yeah.. Michael may not have realised just how much his own skin colour could turn others green.
I think you've summed it up really well. The problem is guys haven't realised how much more we women get in the mood thanks to Michael. <!-- s --><!-- s --> They should be shaking his hand and saying "Dude, thanks for helping all men get laid for eternity" <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
Yeah.. Michael may not have realised just how much his own skin colour could turn others green.
I think you've summed it up really well. The problem is guys haven't realised how much more we women get in the mood thanks to Michael. <!-- s --><!-- s --> They should be shaking his hand and saying "Dude, thanks for helping all men get laid for eternity" <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
Oh my gosh!!!! I'm am seriously cracking up over here!! So true!!!! <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
Ahh...Michael is AMAZING. No matter how many times you say it, it never loses it's value. Lolz.
Hey maybe it's true that Nick Cage wasn't enough for her because she wasn't over MJ. I personally think that Lisa Marie really did love Michael and I definitely believe they were doing the do not to be disrespectful. Everytime I see a photo of her with him she look real happy and when they did that interview with Diane Sawyer she would defend MJ real quick when Diane Sawyer tried to question him about his appearance. The way she was holding and rubbing his hand too I could see real emotions between those two. I know also at the 1995 VMA's when MJ performed You are not alone Lisa was all mad at him because he had been missing. You could tell that she was so pissed at him but she still showed up to support him. She even came to see him on tour after they were divorced. I think MJ kinda dogged her in the end because she didn't follow through with having babies for him. I think he left her heartbroken and then she became bitter. She even admitted herself that she obsessed over him for years. MJ didn't learn all those pelvic moves by mistake. He got it from somewhere. Nick Cage probably couldn't compare to that. <!-- s --><!-- s --> They man could dance I don't see Nick Cage moving like that.
Oh man lol ive read this topic ba few times now I decide to post Lolz..........just thinking about Michael and his gold pants *day dreams* Mmmmmmmmm I vdont thinkvivwould b able to contain myself around him lol......oh man here comes thoughts **Goes to Bed Dreaming of a moment with Mike** lol srry fever
Disclaimer: This merely psychological/sociological observation is not intended to be racial or discriminating in any way!
You know, guys, I think statements like these hit the centre of MJ`s special status in the overall public:
Almost ALL women just love(d) him because they intuitively sense(d) his - subliminal - animalistic sexuality.
And that`s exactly what triggered the basic fear of white men: envy of black man`s "natural abilities" and being afraid of not bearing comparism with them.
Since he liked to act on his sexual attitude MJ was probably not aware of this huge impact.
Remember the duet "The girl is mine" (late 80s) when he playfully competed with Paul Mc Cartney: at the end MJ is winning (quoting his lyrics: "After loving me she said she just can`t love another" - well, that is it!).
And shortly after he bought the ATV-catalogue including the ("white") Beatles-songs what made him a major player in the entertainment industry; beating the ("white") establishment in entertainment business again (besides his own incredible success as an unique artist, of course).
No other black entertainer ever dared to go as far as he went. And I am almost certain that he was just thinking of good business, unaware of the fact that he was "not supposed to develope such a huge power /force / impact".
Are there any more questions why there is such a huge "haters front" (mainly males, btw) ? And why lots of them were just too happy to "question his sexuality" and jump on the "p."-track?
(P.S.: I am a white, female, european woman lacking any personal experience on this topic ...)
Aw, yyyeeeaaaahhhh, those are my thoughts exactly (as a Spanish/Hispanic woman I too have no experience with this but I definitely see it!)- especially the bold part! I always thought that the white, male media just sees Michael's "oddities" and doesn't realize what we women feel coming off of him, especially when he dances! There has just never been any other male entertainer that has caused so many of us, all around the world, every single corner (heck even some gay chicks- I just saw one on here yesterday saying that she feels his vibes! No female is immune!) to be so absorbed and fascinated.. When you look at the concerts, you just see fainting, crying.. men just don't get it, especially the fat, old, pimple-scarred white ones running the media! Hehe, Michael, you rock our worlds..! <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
Disclaimer: This merely psychological/sociological observation is not intended to be racial or discriminating in any way!
You know, guys, I think statements like these hit the centre of MJ`s special status in the overall public:
Almost ALL women just love(d) him because they intuitively sense(d) his - subliminal - animalistic sexuality.
And that`s exactly what triggered the basic fear of white men: envy of black man`s "natural abilities" and being afraid of not bearing comparism with them.
Since he liked to act on his sexual attitude MJ was probably not aware of this huge impact.
Remember the duet "The girl is mine" (late 80s) when he playfully competed with Paul Mc Cartney: at the end MJ is winning (quoting his lyrics: "After loving me she said she just can`t love another" - well, that is it!).
And shortly after he bought the ATV-catalogue including the ("white") Beatles-songs what made him a major player in the entertainment industry; beating the ("white") establishment in entertainment business again (besides his own incredible success as an unique artist, of course).
No other black entertainer ever dared to go as far as he went. And I am almost certain that he was just thinking of good business, unaware of the fact that he was "not supposed to develope such a huge power /force / impact".
Are there any more questions why there is such a huge "haters front" (mainly males, btw) ? And why lots of them were just too happy to "question his sexuality" and jump on the "p."-track?
(P.S.: I am a white, female, european woman lacking any personal experience on this topic ...)
Aw, yyyeeeaaaahhhh, those are my thoughts exactly (as a Spanish/Hispanic woman I too have no experience with this but I definitely see it!)- especially the bold part! I always thought that the white, male media just sees Michael's "oddities" and doesn't realize what we women feel coming off of him, especially when he dances! There has just never been any other male entertainer that has caused so many of us, all around the world, every single corner (heck even some gay chicks- I just saw one on here yesterday saying that she feels his vibes! No female is immune!) to be so absorbed and fascinated.. When you look at the concerts, you just see fainting, crying.. men just don't get it, especially the fat, old, pimple-scarred white ones running the media! Hehe, Michael, you rock our worlds..! <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
omg i totally notice that almost every hater i have gotten into a fight with has been a WHITE male lmao, they are just jealous that us girls love him so much, and i must admit even thou i'm a white girl with a European background, i find black men very attractive, they are just naturally sexy men, of course i'm not going against white men , i have never dated a black guy, because it simply just didnt happen but they are gorgeous, and i think white men are intimidated by him haha <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
Hey maybe it's true that Nick Cage wasn't enough for her because she wasn't over MJ. I personally think that Lisa Marie really did love Michael and I definitely believe they were doing the do not to be disrespectful. Everytime I see a photo of her with him she look real happy and when they did that interview with Diane Sawyer she would defend MJ real quick when Diane Sawyer tried to question him about his appearance. The way she was holding and rubbing his hand too I could see real emotions between those two. I know also at the 1995 VMA's when MJ performed You are not alone Lisa was all mad at him because he had been missing. You could tell that she was so pissed at him but she still showed up to support him. She even came to see him on tour after they were divorced. I think MJ kinda dogged her in the end because she didn't follow through with having babies for him. I think he left her heartbroken and then she became bitter. She even admitted herself that she obsessed over him for years. MJ didn't learn all those pelvic moves by mistake. He got it from somewhere. Nick Cage probably couldn't compare to that. <!-- s --><!-- s --> They man could dance I don't see Nick Cage moving like that.
obviously they had sex she admitted it when she blabbed it around to everyone lol, to me that was disrespectful and it wasnt her right to blab around his private life like that, she knew mj kept things like sex private because he felt it was personal, i think she did love him but i personally dont like her attitude, and i dont like the fact she betrayed him and talked bad about him, and being mad or angry isnt an excuse cause im sure Michael had many reasons be be angry with her as well especially after hurting him really bad by breaking a promise, and he still remained respectful to her and didnt say one bad thing, its called having respect which obviously she didnt have for anyone but herself. I personally dont like her personality, but i;m glad that Michael got to have some happiness in his life even if it was with her, but i dont doubt their marriage, Oh and cmon he was doing those pelvic moves way before lisa came along <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> so he didnt just learn from her haha
Yeah.. Michael may not have realised just how much his own skin colour could turn others green.
I think you've summed it up really well. The problem is guys haven't realised how much more we women get in the mood thanks to Michael. <!-- s --><!-- s --> They should be shaking his hand and saying "Dude, thanks for helping all men get laid for eternity" <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
Oh my gosh!!!! I'm am seriously cracking up over here!! So true!!!! <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
Ahh...Michael is AMAZING. No matter how many times you say it, it never loses it's value. Lolz.
omggg hahahaha im dying here, They should be shaking his hand and saying "Dude, thanks for helping all men get laid for eternity" that line killed me hahahahaha <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
Lisa Marie talked about their sex life in a book "Child Bride" . It's a book about her mother, Priscilla Presley, but in the end there's a part about her , she talked about her marriage with Michael and she said they had a very active sexual life, that he was very ...passionate, right? <!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: --> So she talked about it, she even talked about a couple of details..... <!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: -->
Interestingly, in the divorce settlement, Lisa got the right to write a tell- all book...and she never has.
But still, the little she has said has always sent me into naughty fantasy land. I also believe their relationship was deeper and certainly more sexual than many think. If you read interviews of anyone who was around them ( one of the Temptations, Donald Trump,Harry Benson, etc) , there is always talk about them not being able to keep hands, lips, etc to themselves.
Lisa obsessed over Michael for years after the divorce ( which as she now admitted was an effort to force his hand to be closer to her- very mature move that doesn't work with someone equally driven and stubborn..)- from 97 ( after her breakdown) until early 2000 they were together quite publicly all over the world. In London, July 1997, Debbie left with Prince one day, and Lisa and kids moved into the hotel the next. They were also quite cosy in South Africa, with Katherine and Joe in attendance. Michael and her were seen all over the place with them holding hands, etc. It always amazed me. 1998, Lisa spent Thanksgiving at Havenhurst with Michael and family. Before that, in Feb 98, they were photographed kissing ( through his mask, mind you)- outside the Ivy Restaurant, celebrating Lisa's 30th birthday. They seemed to actually pose for paps that time, Michael engaging them, telling them "we have a secret."
They broken up again early 2000 - no one knows why. I now wonder if it had to do with any hoax plans- maybe she tried to talk him out of it, knowing how her father's absence affected her. Or he again wanted to try for kids- he had Blanket shortly afterwards, indicating he really wanted more children.
In 2002, they were seen again, having lunch in LA several times. Rumors have it that Lisa was on again off again with Nic Cage for a while, then back with Michael. Then, she married Nic, but was was seen at Neverland shortly after. When Nic filed for divorce, after like 90 days or less, the proceedings lasted longer than the marriage, and were not finalized till 2004.
I' glad I found this thread- I needed a pick-me-up. And Nic's comment always makes me smile.
Happy Birthday, Lisa! Hope you have visions of gold pants dancing in your head!
This is a wonderful topic, i haven't noticed it before, all i can say is- wow, i didn't know about Cage's statement about MJ. Well , i have read that u can predict about a man's sexuality from his hands and fingers, if his hands are big then he's very sexual and a master in the bed <!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: --> well, Michael's hands are really huge....i can imagine him being a tiger in the bed,OMG! <!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: -->
But that quote is not even from that article, is it? Sorry, I can only find it here: <!-- m -->http://www.bongonews.com/layout4.php?event=314<!-- m --> And that site seems to be a joke. It says: "Satire. Parody. Jokes"... I'm sorry, correct me if I'm wrong. Don't mean to break all your hearts, lol.
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I remember Nic Cage saying that as well, but I would bet money that LMP never said that, as much as I wish she did. <!-- s
Disclaimer: This merely psychological/sociological observation is not intended to be racial or discriminating in any way!
You know, guys, I think statements like these hit the centre of MJ`s special status in the overall public:
Almost ALL women just love(d) him because they intuitively sense(d) his - subliminal - animalistic sexuality.
And that`s exactly what triggered the basic fear of white men: envy of black man`s "natural abilities" and being afraid of not bearing comparism with them.
Since he liked to act on his sexual attitude MJ was probably not aware of this huge impact.
Remember the duet "The girl is mine" (late 80s) when he playfully competed with Paul Mc Cartney: at the end MJ is winning (quoting his lyrics: "After loving me she said she just can`t love another" - well, that is it!).
And shortly after he bought the ATV-catalogue including the ("white") Beatles-songs what made him a major player in the entertainment industry; beating the ("white") establishment in entertainment business again (besides his own incredible success as an unique artist, of course).
No other black entertainer ever dared to go as far as he went. And I am almost certain that he was just thinking of good business, unaware of the fact that he was "not supposed to develope such a huge power /force / impact".
Are there any more questions why there is such a huge "haters front" (mainly males, btw) ? And why lots of them were just too happy to "question his sexuality" and jump on the "p."-track?
(P.S.: I am a white, female, european woman lacking any personal experience on this topic ...)
As someone who has studied this issue professionally, research and academia backs up a lot of what you are saying in terms of race, color, and power issues. Many professional journals and books have been written about the subject and several universities also specialize in this particular subject. Often times our racial stereotypes and predjudices are unconscious, and, consequently our thoughts and actions based on these predjudices can be unconscious, as well. Education and understanding of these issues are critical in racial understanding and relations. I applaud you for your insight about this subject.
She included details about the experience, if you believe Taraborrelli. Although they weren't sexual or pornographic in nature, I found them even more disrespectful of Michael's privacy than if they had been explicit. It was personal stuff that Lisa Marie's acquaintances and the general public just don't need to know.
However, I agree with you that it's unlikely Lisa Marie publicly said that about Michael and Cage and kids and whatnot.
Yeah.. Michael may not have realised just how much his own skin colour could turn others green.
I think you've summed it up really well. The problem is guys haven't realised how much more we women get in the mood thanks to Michael. <!-- s
Oh my gosh!!!! I'm am seriously cracking up over here!! So true!!!! <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
Ahh...Michael is AMAZING. No matter how many times you say it, it never loses it's value. Lolz.
details like what?
But still, the little she has said has always sent me into naughty fantasy land. I also believe their relationship was deeper and certainly more sexual than many think. If you read interviews of anyone who was around them ( one of the Temptations, Donald Trump,Harry Benson, etc) , there is always talk about them not being able to keep hands, lips, etc to themselves.
Lisa obsessed over Michael for years after the divorce ( which as she now admitted was an effort to force his hand to be closer to her- very mature move that doesn't work with someone equally driven and stubborn..)- from 97 ( after her breakdown) until early 2000 they were together quite publicly all over the world. In London, July 1997, Debbie left with Prince one day, and Lisa and kids moved into the hotel the next. They were also quite cosy in South Africa, with Katherine and Joe in attendance. Michael and her were seen all over the place with them holding hands, etc. It always amazed me. 1998, Lisa spent Thanksgiving at Havenhurst with Michael and family. Before that, in Feb 98, they were photographed kissing ( through his mask, mind you)- outside the Ivy Restaurant, celebrating Lisa's 30th birthday. They seemed to actually pose for paps that time, Michael engaging them, telling them "we have a secret."
They broken up again early 2000 - no one knows why. I now wonder if it had to do with any hoax plans- maybe she tried to talk him out of it, knowing how her father's absence affected her. Or he again wanted to try for kids- he had Blanket shortly afterwards, indicating he really wanted more children.
In 2002, they were seen again, having lunch in LA several times. Rumors have it that Lisa was on again off again with Nic Cage for a while, then back with Michael. Then, she married Nic, but was was seen at Neverland shortly after. When Nic filed for divorce, after like 90 days or less, the proceedings lasted longer than the marriage, and were not finalized till 2004.
I' glad I found this thread- I needed a pick-me-up. And Nic's comment always makes me smile.
Happy Birthday, Lisa! Hope you have visions of gold pants dancing in your head!
This thread is wonderful :
just few lines, and it makes women all crazy about it <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
No, in fact, just 2 words
TIGER and BEDROOM !
OMG, i crying with laughter rigth now <!-- s
You girls are crazy !