Does anybody know the answer to this?

MeandMyShadowMeandMyShadow Posts: 385
edited January 1970 in News
I was doing a bit of searching on Karen Faye and came across this page

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States that she did his makeup and hair for the funeral. So, is she part of the hoax and is acting like, or actually for real, believing he is really dead? I mean, if she really did his makeup for the funeral, wouldn't she know the truth of whether or not he is alive?

I have not followed her on FB or anything, just started reading about her on here. I am just curious as to where she stands in regards to the hoax.
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  • LouLou Posts: 169
    If she has done his makeup for the funeral she knows for real that he's dead, however, I think that there are professionals specially trained for this kind of work. I could be wrong though. Maybe she's not in on the hoax (if it's a hoax) and she says she did it just to catch people's attention - I'm just guessing, I really can't state anything precisely, I can only guess.
  • hesouttamylifehesouttamylife Posts: 5,393
    The family makes this decision.
  • hesouttamylifehesouttamylife Posts: 5,393
    However, if Karen was "slighted" by the family in rendering this service, it is still feasible that she could claim to have done it even if she didn't. And in her assumption that he is dead, she could state that claim unchallenged unless the family decided to make a statement to the contrary which I don't think they would or even care to.
  • mirandacncmirandacnc Posts: 405
    has she ever been interviewed? on tv? after his death? or even be4? i would think if she did his makeup they would want to interview her to find out what he looked like and stuff idk
  • hesouttamylifehesouttamylife Posts: 5,393
    Not that I'm aware of. Anyone else? Interesting question. Never thought to check.
  • PrettyYoungTeletubbyPrettyYoungTeletubby Posts: 264
    For me she's clearly on the hoax. She has been Michael's friend and make-up artist for over 20 years. There was even a time back in the 80's (for what i have read:) where ppl thought they were dating.....

    For some reason she got fired (when Raymone left if i remember well, cause they were good friends) and MJ re-hired her few weeks b4 "passing"...just how he rehired, Dileo, Grace and Branca.......to have his dream team around him for the hoax

    Karen saying she did his make-up out of loyalty cause she knew exactly how he wanted to look like, sounds really sweet...true friendship...but come on, she would never have done a make-up on a 2 months dead corpse!! whatever strong friendship they had.....even if he was frozen...it s still disgusting....

    so you got two solutions: with all that doesn't add up, or he was murdered and all those strange acting ppl are aware of it or he's all but dead
  • Unknown
    I was doing a bit of searching on Karen Faye and came across this page

    <!-- m -->http://en.allexperts.com/q/Jackson-Mich ... Artist.htm<!-- m -->

    States that she did his makeup and hair for the funeral. So, is she part of the hoax and is acting like, or actually for real, believing he is really dead? I mean, if she really did his makeup for the funeral, wouldn't she know the truth of whether or not he is alive?

    I have not followed her on FB or anything, just started reading about her on here. I am just curious as to where she stands in regards to the hoax.
    the thing is that if she did have unsupervised access why didnt post anything more i mean she posted the tomb
  • hopehope Posts: 543
    When Marlon did an interview about "re-dressing" Michael for the "burial", he did say that Karen Faye was going to do his make-up. I read it on another forum a long time ago. Someone might remember it...Marlon was sitting on a bed, and was talking about the specially ordered "curly shoulder length" wig. <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
  • 2good2btrue2good2btrue Posts: 4,210
    SHE DEFINITELY IS PART OF THE HOAX...............SHE IS THE ONE TO FOLLOW. SHE WILL DO AND SAY THINGS THAT ARE UNSUAL AS PART OF GIVING US FANS CLUES. SHE WILL BE MYSTERIOUS. SHE HAS DONE MJ'S MAKEUP, BUT COULD IT MEAN ' MAKEUP FOR A DISGUISE INSTEAD??????????????????????????
  • MeandMyShadowMeandMyShadow Posts: 385
    Well, she is either doing her part in the hoax, or she really knows he's dead and her anger is genuine when it comes to CM. What I don't get is why she is so angry with Kenny.
  • hesouttamylifehesouttamylife Posts: 5,393
    When Marlon did an interview about "re-dressing" Michael for the "burial", he did say that Karen Faye was going to do his make-up. I read it on another forum a long time ago. Someone might remember it...Marlon was sitting on a bed, and was talking about the specially ordered "curly shoulder length" wig. <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
    And why would they need to special order a wig to bury Michael in? I'm sure he was well stocked. And another thing, if they indeed special ordered a special curly wig, then why would Karen be needed to do his hair. It's already pre-done???
  • _Dangerous__Dangerous_ Posts: 362
    There's ONE thing that I dont get, Why did she make his make-up.. If we couldn't see Michael ¬¬
  • kelly wrightkelly wright Posts: 219
    Come on ,why do you think she is ranting and raving on facebook and twitter ? because Murray and his conspirators are going to get away with MURDER !what does her tweet : C.Murray;s arrest has to wait till Monday Because AEG isn't done decorating Murray's cell " what is she implying here ? That AeG is funding Murray ! Who is paying for his defense? He can't even afford to pay child support ! Is it a coincidence that the DATE LINE special just happens to coincide with Murray;s arrest . WOW ! And how much you think the media has paid the LAPD AND THE DA "S office to let them in on the media circus? That way they all make money off of MJ .Don't you see what is going on here ! Jermaine said The US Justice system sucks Latoya is saying it is a conspiracy to destroy her bro .Katherine is on video saying there was a conspiracy long ago and Joe as far back as the first accusation ,Joe also said that Murray was the"fall Guy" .You people are going to feel really bad if it turns out MJ is Dead and was murdered and you were all sitting around going" Oh were not worried About Murray because MJ is not dead ! You cannot think that way . You may find yourself feeling extreme guilt because you refuse to except the possibility That he was really murdered .You have to look at every aspect of it .Karen Faye was Mj friend OBVIOUSLY ,she has not done Any interviews because she is LOYAL .Don't u know she probably been offered MILLIONS to reveal things about MJ and she hasn't ! Can't you people see the truth .MY GOD ,this is so frustrating !. The LAPD IS CORRUPT they are in cahoots with the FBI and the Media . WAKE UP SHEEPLE !
  • hesouttamylifehesouttamylife Posts: 5,393
    I don't think ANYONE can be 100% sure if MJ is dead or alive. NO ONE. Therefore, I don't see how one group would feel any more guilty than the other at the outcome. If it is determined that Michael is still alive, how will that reflect on the non believers? Will that make you feel guilty that you had him dead and buried from the word go? I would think it would come as a relief and a gift from God. Same for us. If it turns out that Michael is indeed deceased, we will finally mourn. But at least we had faith in the possibility. That is the only difference. Neither your belief nor ours is gonna change the truth nor the outcome. So why don't you just chill and let us have our day in court and you can have yours. I certainly hope that you're not so ready to say "we told you so" that you are hoping that we are wrong? Are you? That's not nice.
  • DiscoDisco Posts: 286
    Come on ,why do you think she is ranting and raving on facebook and twitter ? because Murray and his conspirators are going to get away with MURDER !what does her tweet : C.Murray;s arrest has to wait till Monday Because AEG isn't done decorating Murray's cell " what is she implying here ? That AeG is funding Murray ! Who is paying for his defense? He can't even afford to pay child support ! Is it a coincidence that the DATE LINE special just happens to coincide with Murray;s arrest . WOW ! And how much you think the media has paid the LAPD AND THE DA "S office to let them in on the media circus? That way they all make money off of MJ .Don't you see what is going on here ! Jermaine said The US Justice system sucks Latoya is saying it is a conspiracy to destroy her bro .Katherine is on video saying there was a conspiracy long ago and Joe as far back as the first accusation ,Joe also said that Murray was the"fall Guy" .You people are going to feel really bad if it turns out MJ is Dead and was murdered and you were all sitting around going" Oh were not worried About Murray because MJ is not dead ! You cannot think that way . You may find yourself feeling extreme guilt because you refuse to except the possibility That he was really murdered .You have to look at every aspect of it .Karen Faye was Mj friend OBVIOUSLY ,she has not done Any interviews because she is LOYAL .Don't u know she probably been offered MILLIONS to reveal things about MJ and she hasn't ! Can't you people see the truth .MY GOD ,this is so frustrating !. The LAPD IS CORRUPT they are in cahoots with the FBI and the Media . WAKE UP SHEEPLE !

    @Kelly!
    No doubt you are a Karen Faye fan, But don't dare come on here & say she is loyal to Michael, She has put very personal details regarding Michaels private life on Facebook!!!
    If anyone asks her did she sell the photos of the tomb to tmz they are blocked from her page!!
    Your the one that needs to get real here
    I assume your all wound up because your listening to the stir up that is going on, If Karen Faye was so concerned about Michael then WHY?????? Didn't she go & make a statement to the police, she also worked on TII, do you think she declined her cheque????????
    The reason we are all here is because we are not easily led, nor do we conform to bullying or intimidation by a make-up artist & her cult followers!!!!!
    Now off you go and have a great day tomorrow at the court by showing nothing but disrespect for Michael....
  • ZenZen Posts: 341
    I agree Disco.
    I am not fan of Karen Faye. If she really witnesses what she says, WHY wait until
    AFTER the death to reveal anything?
    "I" would have already been in jail or worse, had anyone I was close to being abused
    or sick without treatment, and that includes animals and children! Much less my
    "best friend" <!-- s:!: -->:!:<!-- s:!: --> <!-- s:!: -->:!:<!-- s:!: -->
  • tklein1014tklein1014 Posts: 123
    I'm no fan of Karen Faye either...she is spewing so much hate on her FB page...I'm not on her page, but I have friends who are...seriously off message. I kept asking myself why, if MJ was being abused in such a way and needed help as she claims, why she didn't do anything or say anything until after 6/25? If it were my friend in that situation, I'd have gone to the police.

    I also have a question...if it was a closed casket funeral, why the need make him up?
  • ChanceChance Posts: 250
    and if you are friends with someone for such a long period of time and love that person.. could you actually apply makeup to them when they are dead? I don't think I could.. guess Karen is a stronger person then I am
  • ChanceChance Posts: 250
    and if Karen was willing to sell pictures from Holly Terrace.. I am sure she would have sold a picture of Michael dead
  • scorpionchikscorpionchik Posts: 2,669
    I don't believe this. Who's Marcus any way? What Karen should have done MJ's "funeral" make up or hair for? There was not even public good by arranged for fans to see Michael. What's the point? Did make up for whom, family only and coffin?
  • Happy FeetHappy Feet Posts: 320
    There's ONE thing that I dont get, Why did she make his make-up.. If we couldn't see Michael ¬¬
    When Marlon did an interview about "re-dressing" Michael for the "burial", he did say that Karen Faye was going to do his make-up. I read it on another forum a long time ago. Someone might remember it...Marlon was sitting on a bed, and was talking about the specially ordered "curly shoulder length" wig. <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->

    And why would they need to special order a wig to bury Michael in? I'm sure he was well stocked. And another thing, if they indeed special ordered a special curly wig, then why would Karen be needed to do his hair. It's already pre-done???


    Umm... neither one of these actions are odd (the new wig, makeup etc). When my daughter died I had her hair styled the way she liked as well as her makeup done and dressed her in a brand new outfit that she was meant to wear for her 18th birthday. These actions don't surprise me at all.

    To me, if this is a hoax, Karen is in on it. She worked on Michael's face for over 20 years. If there was anyone that knew his face more other than himself it would be her. She would no every mark or scar on his face like no other.
  • tklein1014tklein1014 Posts: 123
    Yes, but what would be the point of making him up if it was a closed casket and no one saw him? That was my question...
  • Happy FeetHappy Feet Posts: 320
    Just because someone is dead and has a closed casket, doesn't mean that there is no point of having them made up to look nice. The point would be that the family would still like to lay someone to rest looking their best or they way the person wanted to look in life.

    I'm not here to debate a point, because I've buried enough loved ones in my life time to not see this as anything odd or questionable. All of them were made up beautifully, even the ones with closed caskets. I had a family member that died in a car accident, who did have a closed casket and even then, we made her look as best as we could. Some families are like this, some aren't. I am obviously from one that does. We just don't throw our dead into the coffins and bury them in the ground in a mess. Again not unusual for me.
  • tklein1014tklein1014 Posts: 123
    Fair enough, and thanks for your insight. I'm sorry for your losses.
  • DiscoDisco Posts: 286
    "Chance&quot wrote:
    and if Karen was willing to sell pictures from Holly Terrace.. I am sure she would have sold a picture of Michael dead
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    That wouldn't happen because Michael is not dead, no problem with photos of the tomb <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> ][/b]
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