Re: THE BODYGUARDS INTERVIEW: Analysis
DancingTheDream
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Does anyone have a link to this second part of the interview?
I agree... i dont think MJ was close to his family, either.. especially his siblings.
That makes total sense and it is something i have suspected for a long time.
I agree... i dont think MJ was close to his family, either.. especially his siblings.
That makes total sense and it is something i have suspected for a long time.
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then whos body did they see?
its not making any sense to me... they have to be..or at least some of them
to me, if the family is not in on it then there is no hoax...
We have learnt that MJ shut his family out. Thats very clear to me. Explains the families behavour and emotions. They have seemed false and fake and money grabbing from the start.
WHy would Michael leave his three children in that Encino house???? If he felt that way about his family, why would he leave those kids at that house and expose those kids the way they have been exposed?
They were put on stage at the memorial... we were all shocked at that at the time and the bodyguards have confirmed all our thoughts on that.
Its not adding up for me anymore. I think he may be gone.
The family wont risk making a fool of themselves by sayiing things like "he wasnt there at the AIRPORT when he left"....and things like "I AM GONNA SEE MY BROTHER REAL SOON"......
I have no idea as to how and why these bodyguards were told to speak the way they did, but If MJ is hoaxing around, then the family has gotta know....
Primary Reason: He was very protective and possessive about his kids....And he WOULD NOT let them stay for 8 months at his brothers homes with whom he was so "disconnected".
Remember what Joe Jackson said at the Larry King interview aftert the Memorial?
Larry King asked him where Mihcael's body was....He said that he ddint know.....He said that he didnt know where "THEY" had taken it after the memorial.....
Who do you think "THEY" be?......
Plus although MJ has a lotta doubles, you can still tell the difference between them and the real MJ.....And the family of all people would know that.
I agree Crazybanana. Latoya identified the body. Latoya was present at the funeral home when they removed a hair sample. Latoya viewed the body with Paris.
Katherine Jackson has all of Michael's children, who in turn also has Jermaines kids and his ex-wife living with her. If this is a hoax and Michaels family are not in the know, then we must assume Michael has moved on from being a father as he would never see his kids again without revealing himself to at least his mother.
Whilst I may accept to some degree the family were not that close, I don't believe they don't know about the hoax.
as you said crazybanana..... "if the family is not in on it, then there is no hoax".
its a means to an end
if money got in the way - well he has none now
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1) If it is true that they claim to be giving the interview "to set the record straight, to defend him", then why would they divulge information that could be embarrassing to Michael's memory such as credit cards being declined and subsequent evictions from hotels, the fact that Jesse Jackson had to pay for Michael & his family to come to his birthday party because Michael couldn't afford the trip or even that he'd allegedly asked them about getting him some marijuana? Even if these things were true, what positive purpose did it serve to divulge them? And let's look at the marijuana question...you'll notice that it is the interviewer that puts that question to them, as if she already knew the answer...typical media sensationalism... who cares if he wanted to smoke a little pot? He would have been a lot better off doing that than many of the prescription drugs he allegedly took.
It could have helped him with his pain and, for the sake of his lungs/singing, he actually could have taken it in pill form rather than smoke it.
And as I understand it, in California, it is completely legal to obtain it for medicinal purposes. But most importantly, IT WOULDN'T HAVE KILLED HIM!
2) As for their reaction when asked what the children would think if they saw this interview, you could tell that the question hit them like a ton
of bricks....like they hadn't even considered that possibility....clearly they were quite fond of the kids....but they didn't think about them, did they, when they
agreed to do this interview, unless they planned to only talk about positive things...but let's see what they DID talk about:
Daddy making out in the backseat with different women.
Daddy asking where to get pot.
Daddy not paying his bills.
Daddy not allowing Grandpa Joe or Uncle Randy on their property.
Daddy having a drug intervention with their uncles.
Daddy throwing a cell phone through a window & breaking it.
Are ANY of these things that those children, at their respective ages, needed to hear about their Daddy after he's gone?
3) When they talked about "all these millions, all these zero's" coming in and out of that house and yet "we can't get a check cut to us for $5000?"
To me, that sounds like motivation to "tell all"....to "get what's coming to me"....to "betray"....to "write a book"....to "make money".....why should Michael
have expected one single person in his life, except his mother and children, NOT to betray him....to be his Judas....to ask for their silver pieces...so, so
sad....and yet, these same fools have the nerve to pass judgment on all the celebrities they saw at the memorial who hadn't come around in the last two
years? Seriously? Cannot they not see the hyprocrisy in this?
4) I didn't get the impression that these guys had a lot going on upstairs....brawn vs. brains....very poor grammar throughout the interview....but perhaps that's not uncommon in the Bodyguard Business.
I agree. I sense much of what they were saying was crap. I really can't see Michael asking someone for weed, seriously. I'm not claiming to know him, I'm not saying it's impossible. I think it just bothers me too much to believe it... I know far too many people that do pot, they are NOT enjoyable to be around. I think that clashes a little with people saying how amazingly nice and smart Michael was.
I also just don't really get a trustworthy vibe from these guys. Um, who's heard of them before this? What happened to Tippy, he came back right? If I was Michael's friend, I totally wouldn't go on TV and talk about him at all, especially private things like his love life <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> They had to get paid for this or something, it's too sudden.
I just don't know what to think anymore. I think the hear-say is getting to me... It's ruining him...
Yeah that's the first thing I thought when I watched the interview this morning and connected it to that story. The family found the rancid marijuana and actually altered LAPD to it. I think they said they thought it was crack or heroin or something in those lines found in his gym bag. I thought it was an interesting coincidence.
they will let him down - for 30 pieces of silver
just wait and see
This is what has been wrought for 30 pieces of silver - the tongues of men & angels bought by a beloved betrayer...
but all the more reason you would take care of your health, if you could not leave the children with anyone, there are no money and their future was uncertain
i think any single parent knows that
1 am very interested in what you say about the family i thought that he had been close to janet - she went of tours with him accompanied by ma jackson but that was in 1990's he gave her material he said in his home movies
randy lived with him for a bit
what happened.
Wait, marijuana goes rancid??? <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> <!-- s --><!-- s -->
If it was rancid, then I guess it wasn't getting smoked up...
Also, as was already stated, marijuana can be legally obtained for medicinal purposes - easing pain from arthritis & multiple sclerosis, slowing down glaucoma, treating nausea in chemotherapy patients, etc. So if it was there, and it was Michael's - it's possible it was for a specific ailment and he never finished it?
Or it could have been someone else's?
It's not like he doesn't help people who are sick or in need...
Or it could have just been planted but no one was willing to give up their "good" weed and just dropped some old, moldy weed into a bag...
Arabian Nights - I too wonder what happend between the family that they weren't as close?
Even if they went on tour together in the early 90s, that was what, almost 20 years ago!
They all seemed to come together for the trial, but maybe they just all went their separate ways after that?
Since Michael lived overseas for a few years, it's possible that they just never got that closeness back?
E.g. when Joe broke out so shortly after Michael's "death" with his publishing firm - it is just so unimaginable that Joe really thought about that in that moment if Michael was dead indeed. But if Joe is part of the hoax and Michael made him understand that if he plays his part in it, he would have his profits off it - and Joe is just bad with his timing ... you know what I mean?
Like the Jacksons reality show, they use Michael to get attention - maybe that was part of their deal. Like help me with this and you will benefit from it.
I don't know whose it was. I'm just quoting what was reported and the fact the family called it in. Why there was some left, who knows. Maybe it was pretty potent <!-- s --><!-- s -->. You can get some really strong weed out these days (not that I know from experience, just what I've been told). I haven't touched that stuff in over 20 years <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> I'm a good girl now <!-- s --><!-- s --> Weed from past experience can go rancid if it is not stored properly.
The bodyguards said he just "enquired" they didn't say purchased. If you watch the smaller guy on the right all in black, he says "enquired", "enquired" when they spoke about it near the end of that segment.
janet marrying - how many times?
joes daughter - i didnt know that one
jermaine marrying (well it was not legal but) his brothers ex wife
there is alot going on
it also showed liz suggesting that he goes into rehab and his sister -latoya saying foul things around the 1990's accusations
tito said he had not talked to mike for some time
randy had problems with the 2005 case funding with mikes friends and associates
i didnt understand why janet did not help mike with his legal fees for the 2005 case
but they all conveniently when asked said that they had met up for their parents wedding ann. meal.
maybe his family had given up on him and the kids?