Harvey the beLIEver and his grassy knoll theory

SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400
edited January 1970 in General Hoax Investigation
Well TMZ posted this article and I was convinced I had heard Harvey talk about something mentioned in the article:

Michael Jackson -- Casket Mystery Solved
Originally posted Apr 10th 2010 7:53 AM PDT by TMZ Staff

It's the answer to the question you were kinda curious about, then forgot about, but now you're like "Holy cow, I really want to know -- how did Michael Jackson's body seemingly disappear after his memorial, only to reappear at the cemetery?"

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On July 7, 2009 the Staples Center memorial was held in front of thousands of people in downtown L.A. -- Jackson's body was ensconced in a $25,000 red casket.

After the memorial, although hundreds of cameras and thousands of eyes were trained on the exits, no one saw any evidence that the casket left the building. It fueled a grassy knoll-type theory that Jackson's body wasn't really inside the casket and maybe he was still alive.

Finally, our spies have come clean. Jackson's body did indeed arrive in a hearse, but it left in a SWAT van. The van was driven to a secret location, where it rendezvoused with a Forest Lawn van -- which then transported the body to the cemetery without being noticed.

You're welcome.


The part that's bold struck me and luckily Mo and I always watch Uncle Harve and I was convinced I heard Harvey say one time he was convinced Oswald didn't act alone. So I decided to browse the TMZ live history and I found the stream where he tells us about the grassy knoll theory...:

TMZ Live January 28, 2010: <!-- m -->http://www.tmz.com/tmz-live/?mediaKey=0 ... reURL=true<!-- m -->

So I think it's safe to assume that our Uncle Harve is a beLIEver <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->

"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

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  • RKRK Posts: 3,019
    I feel like sending him a message to keep the faith. <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
  • darkchilddarkchild Posts: 1,161
    I think Uncle Harvey is a believer and a secret MJ fan like Diane Diamond. Uncle Harvey, there is no need to hide that you are a MJ fan. <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
  • SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400
    I think Uncle Harvey is a believer and a secret MJ fan like Diane Diamond. Uncle Harvey, there is no need to hide that you are a MJ fan. <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->


    Well I think Uncle Harve is not just a beLIEver <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->

    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

  • lomaloma Posts: 1,366
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  • MYLOVELYONEMYLOVELYONE Posts: 175
    Hahahaha but it hangs together <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
  • mjfansince4mjfansince4 Posts: 1,030
    i love that loose ends are slowly being tied together. we've been given pieces for the past 10 months and now it's like we're being reassured that they do in fact fit together (by TMZ posting old news). we're coming full circle!

    dearest harvey, i'm going to go ahead and assume you read this forum (you did cite this website, sir). when this hoax is finished with its intended goal and your involvement with it is finally exposed...you, me, michael and some beers. i'm buying <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
  • MJsFan4EverMJsFan4Ever Posts: 334
    Unlcle Harvey's on the HOAX!!!!! <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
  • I think Uncle Harvey is a believer and a secret MJ fan like Diane Diamond. Uncle Harvey, there is no need to hide that you are a MJ fan. <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->


    Well I think Uncle Harve is not just a beLIEver <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->

    Am I missing something? Doesn't this just lean Harvey towards believing that Dr Murray didn't act alone? I'm confused how it connects his belief that Michael hoaxed his death. Sorry, I'm slow at this sometimes...
  • AdiAdi Posts: 1,834
    Well TIAI just redirected to your post Souza.

    Me thinks DEFINITELY that Harve is more than just a beLIEver!!!

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  • lomaloma Posts: 1,366
    I think the poll is just them taking count of how many people believe their crappy excuse.
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  • GINAFELICIAGINAFELICIA Posts: 6,506
    So TMZ is in the HOax or they're playing with us.... no,they are in the hoax <!-- s:mrgreen: -->:mrgreen:<!-- s:mrgreen: -->
  • Well well, it's not a suprise to me at all that TIAI redirected here to this post. I mean it is obvious that TMZ is in on the hoax and most likely connected to TIAI. For me this just double confirms what I discovered just the other day when I posted this thread

    Proof TMZ is connected to TIAI and Hoax?
    <!-- l -->viewtopic.php?f=50&t=8382<!-- l -->

    Or for those who aren't members of this forum here are the screen captures from my post

    TMZ_TIAI.jpg

    1tmz.jpg

    I knew it wasn't some malfunction with internet cookies that caused what I saw. I tried to see the TIAI redirect and was asked for a password. Nobody is required to have a password to access TIAI and see their redirects...except admin of TIAI need the password to change the redirect. I must have hit the thisisalsoit.com site just as they, TMZ, were in there changing the redirect. I was denied access to TIAI by TMZ, and I did a screen capture from my computer to share with you guys. Check it out and see the TMZ logo next to where it says "access denied" to thisisalsoit.com

    So, TMZ is revealing more info on the hoax and hopefully soon and very soon we will see the KING! Oh, and since TMZ is giving us all the opportunity to voice our opinion, please remember to vote "MJ alive" in their poll here <!-- m -->http://adjix.com/ym7b<!-- m --> Please vote as much as you can, I think this will help them to bring more info out about Michael.

    Love & Light to ALL

    Blessed to have been,
    Touched By An Angel
    <!-- m -->http://twitter.com/TouchedByAngelM<!-- m -->

    AliveForever.jpg

    Paradigm Shift is a change from one way of thinking to another. It's a revolution, a transformation. It is driven by agents of change... US!
  • ZIsisZIsis Posts: 165
    Tee hee hee

    Do have a lookee at the following links (quite "interesting reading" <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->) too, folks:

    http://seeingclues.blogspot.com/2010/04/red-casketnot-necessarily-coffin.html,

    http://seeingclues.blogspot.com/2010/04/its-all-mystery-per-tmz.html,

    http://seeingclues.blogspot.com/2010/04/behind-curtain-o2-camera-man.html,

    &

    http://seeingclues.blogspot.com/2010/04/this-is-it-debuts-on-tmz-december-2008.html.


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    L.O.V.E & LOVE ALL THE WAY!
  • RavenRaven Posts: 709
    Well well, it's not a suprise to me at all that TIAI redirected here to this post. I mean it is obvious that TMZ is in on the hoax and most likely connected to TIAI. For me this just double confirms what I discovered just the other day when I posted this thread

    Proof TMZ is connected to TIAI and Hoax?
    <!-- l -->viewtopic.php?f=50&t=8382<!-- l -->

    Or for those who aren't members of this forum here are the screen captures from my post

    TMZ_TIAI.jpg

    1tmz.jpg

    I knew it wasn't some malfunction with internet cookies that caused what I saw. I tried to see the TIAI redirect and was asked for a password. Nobody is required to have a password to access TIAI and see their redirects...except admin of TIAI need the password to change the redirect. I must have hit the thisisalsoit.com site just as they, TMZ, were in there changing the redirect. I was denied access to TIAI by TMZ, and I did a screen capture from my computer to share with you guys. Check it out and see the TMZ logo next to where it says "access denied" to thisisalsoit.com

    So, TMZ is revealing more info on the hoax and hopefully soon and very soon we will see the KING! Oh, and since TMZ is giving us all the opportunity to voice our opinion, please remember to vote "MJ alive" in their poll here <!-- m -->http://adjix.com/ym7b<!-- m --> Please vote as much as you can, I think this will help them to bring more info out about Michael.

    Love & Light to ALL

    Blessed to have been,
    Touched By An Angel
    <!-- m -->http://twitter.com/TouchedByAngelM<!-- m -->

    AliveForever.jpg

    Paradigm Shift is a change from one way of thinking to another. It's a revolution, a transformation. It is driven by agents of change... US!
    What you describe is just auto-completion of your browser. If you type in a letter for the url, your browser automatically can fill in the rest of the url based on url's that you visited before starting with the same letters.

    So if you type thisisalsoit.com, after you typed the first t your browser gave all suggestions that started with "t" to save you time typing. Which in your case, also included tmz.com.

    As far as the tmz logo in front of the thisisalsoit.com url, sometimes the logo's of websites are just messed up and switched amongst eachother, it's just a temporary browser malfunction that happens every now and then.
  • I have a feeling also that Harvey knows about the hoax, but I'm not so sure about the rest of TMZ but Harvey I think is definitely in the hoax! <!-- s:mrgreen: -->:mrgreen:<!-- s:mrgreen: --> Welcome to the family, Harvey! <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
  • NinaninaNinanina Posts: 439
    Well well, it's not a suprise to me at all that TIAI redirected here to this post. I mean it is obvious that TMZ is in on the hoax and most likely connected to TIAI. For me this just double confirms what I discovered just the other day when I posted this thread

    Proof TMZ is connected to TIAI and Hoax?
    <!-- l -->viewtopic.php?f=50&t=8382<!-- l -->

    Or for those who aren't members of this forum here are the screen captures from my post

    TMZ_TIAI.jpg

    1tmz.jpg

    I knew it wasn't some malfunction with internet cookies that caused what I saw. I tried to see the TIAI redirect and was asked for a password. Nobody is required to have a password to access TIAI and see their redirects...except admin of TIAI need the password to change the redirect. I must have hit the thisisalsoit.com site just as they, TMZ, were in there changing the redirect. I was denied access to TIAI by TMZ, and I did a screen capture from my computer to share with you guys. Check it out and see the TMZ logo next to where it says "access denied" to thisisalsoit.com

    So, TMZ is revealing more info on the hoax and hopefully soon and very soon we will see the KING! Oh, and since TMZ is giving us all the opportunity to voice our opinion, please remember to vote "MJ alive" in their poll here <!-- m -->http://adjix.com/ym7b<!-- m --> Please vote as much as you can, I think this will help them to bring more info out about Michael.

    Love & Light to ALL

    Blessed to have been,
    Touched By An Angel
    <!-- m -->http://twitter.com/TouchedByAngelM<!-- m -->

    AliveForever.jpg

    Paradigm Shift is a change from one way of thinking to another. It's a revolution, a transformation. It is driven by agents of change... US!

    I'm also pretty sure. that TMZ in in, but what happened to you with the TMZ logo has nothing to do with it IMO.
    Um, I think you made that screenshot after TIAI re-directed to TMZ, right (I think it was re-directed to TMZ from April 4th - April 6th at night?)? So probably your browser just still had the favicon from TMZ in the cache connected to TIAI.
  • liegiliegi Posts: 640
    Harvey is clearly a well-informed, intelligent person. I agree with Souza.
  • Well well, it's not a suprise to me at all that TIAI redirected here to this post. I mean it is obvious that TMZ is in on the hoax and most likely connected to TIAI. For me this just double confirms what I discovered just the other day when I posted this thread

    Proof TMZ is connected to TIAI and Hoax?
    <!-- l -->viewtopic.php?f=50&t=8382<!-- l -->

    Or for those who aren't members of this forum here are the screen captures from my post

    I knew it wasn't some malfunction with internet cookies that caused what I saw. I tried to see the TIAI redirect and was asked for a password. Nobody is required to have a password to access TIAI and see their redirects...except admin of TIAI need the password to change the redirect. I must have hit the thisisalsoit.com site just as they, TMZ, were in there changing the redirect. I was denied access to TIAI by TMZ, and I did a screen capture from my computer to share with you guys. Check it out and see the TMZ logo next to where it says "access denied" to thisisalsoit.com

    So, TMZ is revealing more info on the hoax and hopefully soon and very soon we will see the KING! Oh, and since TMZ is giving us all the opportunity to voice our opinion, please remember to vote "MJ alive" in their poll here <!-- m -->http://adjix.com/ym7b<!-- m --> Please vote as much as you can, I think this will help them to bring more info out about Michael.

    Love & Light to ALL

    Blessed to have been,
    Touched By An Angel
    <!-- m -->http://twitter.com/TouchedByAngelM<!-- m -->

    Paradigm Shift is a change from one way of thinking to another. It's a revolution, a transformation. It is driven by agents of change... US!

    I'm also pretty sure. that TMZ in in, but what happened to you with the TMZ logo has nothing to do with it IMO.
    Um, I think you made that screenshot after TIAI re-directed to TMZ, right (I think it was re-directed to TMZ from April 4th - April 6th at night?)? So probably your browser just still had the favicon from TMZ in the cache connected to TIAI.

    Correct Ninanina. TIAI is forwarding its URL. Therefor the HTML is automatically generated by GoDaddy, and does not contain a fav icon. It's a cookie issue, as TIAI was forwarded to TMZ for a few days in a row..

    So, can we please move on and drop the TMZ fav icon appearing next to the TIAI URL subject?
  • MathieuMathieu Posts: 2
    Hey guys, I'm a new beLIEver
    And today is the first time I check the thisisalsoit.com webpage...

    As I was going through the article, I realized that the title of the picture is:

    TMZ.com composite (aka THIS AIN'T REAL)

    Weird....

    Mathieu
  • jilljill Posts: 917
    @Souza...Do you think Harvey is TS?
  • DooDooDooDoo Posts: 437
    I agree with SOuza, I think Uncle Harve is more than a beLIEver! <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
  • SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400
    @Souza...Do you think Harvey is TS?


    No, I don't think Harvey is TS.

    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

  • NickJ47NickJ47 Posts: 87
    Slightly off-topic for a second.

    What is TS?
  • SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400
    I think Uncle Harvey is a believer and a secret MJ fan like Diane Diamond. Uncle Harvey, there is no need to hide that you are a MJ fan. <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->


    Well I think Uncle Harve is not just a beLIEver <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->

    Am I missing something? Doesn't this just lean Harvey towards believing that Dr Murray didn't act alone? I'm confused how it connects his belief that Michael hoaxed his death. Sorry, I'm slow at this sometimes...


    No, it means Harvey thinks the Grassy Knoll theory is very plausible, that he believes in it. He calls the "MJ is alive" theory a Grassy Knoll theory, so he means that it's very plausible.

    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

  • Slightly off-topic for a second.

    What is TS?

    Nick: <!-- l -->search.php?author_id=1440&sr=posts<!-- l -->
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