So....the L.A. Coroner Just Happened To.........
mjboogie
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Guys I was sitting here thinking about the court granting access to MJ's body fluids to test the levels of propofol which supposedly leaves the body quickly. OK DID THE CORONER JUST HAPPEN TO HAVE MJ"S LIQUIDS PRESERVED?? <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> I find this to be really really strange that the coroner would have his fluids? Can those fluids still be tested this late I mean it has been since JUne ? July? since the initial autopsy was performed on MJ right? Anybody understand what I am trying to say? Is it routine for a coroner to hold something like body fluids this long?
Did the coroner do this maybe until the trial? or the court proceedings? Remember his brain? They supposedly kept his brain for a certain amount of time before returning it to the mortuary right? IDK it just seems sooooo crazy. Maybe I am reading into this too far but.....this kinda reminds me of when Latoya witnessed them going to MJ's body and plucking hairs for testing like ummmmmmmm a couple of months after his "death"? Remember? Your thoughts on this? <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> What the hell is going on!
Did the coroner do this maybe until the trial? or the court proceedings? Remember his brain? They supposedly kept his brain for a certain amount of time before returning it to the mortuary right? IDK it just seems sooooo crazy. Maybe I am reading into this too far but.....this kinda reminds me of when Latoya witnessed them going to MJ's body and plucking hairs for testing like ummmmmmmm a couple of months after his "death"? Remember? Your thoughts on this? <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> What the hell is going on!
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I wonder whose those samples were because they were sure not Michael's <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) -->
sometimes wonder if all of this stuff is legit or it just screams why isn't somebody paying attention here.
But heck, I'm not a scientist/coroner/someone who reads up on the preservation of body fluids! <!-- s --><!-- s -->
I wish a doctor or someone would enlighten us about this...
L.A. Coroner " Well I guess I will keep some of MJ for my memory or collection? Hugh? I am wondering did someone order or instruct the coroner to keep his fluids (if this is true)
I know who we need to talk to or email or tweet...........ED WINTER OR CRAIG HARVEY! From L.A. coroners office? <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->
Assuming coroner does have the fluids to test, wouldnt the propofol deteriorate over a 13mth time? & then level of propofol would be lower than originally tested??
So, then the Defense can say look the propofol level isnt that high after all.
Yes, need to hear from pathologist whether propofol in fluids deteriorates over time.
for those interested to read more here are links
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<!-- m -->http://www.deathreference.com/Py-Se/Rig ... anges.html<!-- m -->
Hope that helps,Godbless
The info below is from another community (NOT a hoax community) from someone in the medical field:
If you cryo-preserve tissue (preserve by freezing), you can get accurate reads on all protein and RNA levels with minimal degradation. If you perfuse tissue (preserve with formaldehyde), you can still get accurate reads on protein levels, but RNA degrades from the warm temperature of the tissue. I've never actually looked for the presence of a drug in tissue I have worked with, but I would assume that, depending on the type of drug we are talking about, you could look for its presence in tissue in the same way. I have never preserved blood samples outside of extracting DNA (which is an extremely stable molecule), so I'm not sure what would need to be done to preserve blood in such a way that nothing in it would degrade. My guess is that all fluids were flash-frozen and will be thawed for repeat molecular testing.
Also, Propofol undergoes oxidative degradation, in the presence of oxygen, and is therefore packaged under nitrogen to eliminate this degradation path.
The autopsy also showed that propofol was found throughout the body--in the blood, urine, bile and brain tissues. But the request to test the fluids is likely nothing more than a media tactic (to influence the jury pool), and/or a means to prolong the trial process.
Propofol is a water-immiscible oil basically , so is used as an emulsion of a soya oil/propofol mixture in water, this makes it appear as a highly opaque white fluid.
I agree with this. I would be surprised if the fluids were NOT preserved. It is, after all, crucial evidence and Murrays defence team have every right to ask for them and re-test them for a second opinion.
This is why the news that the syringe was being auctioned was so off... i still dont believe that story as the syringe would also be crucial evidence for fingerprints, DNA, etc.
I am assuming (as i do not know) - but i am assuming that these fluids would have been frozen to preserve them.
What if they freeze them?
Chappie
http://thebloodconnection.org/products-services/laboratory-services/frozen-blood-program
Sounds like a solid plan to me. <!-- s --><!-- s --> Then the next headlines would read - GRAVE ROBBERS ...ETC. <!-- s --><!-- s --> But we know <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
It wasn't an "article," mjj_fan. It was a post in another community by someone in the medical field. And what I have posted is what was said. And since it is not a hoax community I don't want to link to it. My point in referencing it was only in as much as I thought it was relevant to the questions at hand in this thread. <!-- s:P -->:P<!-- s:P -->