New ideas to make www.elvisandmj.com known worldwide
You all might have noticed the Twitter thing didn't work out. Main reason is that we have a lot of people boycotting it and spreading hate towards us so that others are not participating either. I don't think starting a new rally will do the trick, not even if it's planned a month in advance, because that will only give the haters more time to spread videos as to why people should NOT join.
I do still think it's important to get http://www.elvisandmj.com out there, and there are more ways to do that than using Twitter. If this hoax was meant to be a secret, he would have 'died' another way. This thread is for ideas to spread this without a trending topic on Twitter. Please share your ideas in this thread.
It's a shame to see the hate between hoaxers, I am certain Mike would be disappointed to see where this is going. We signed up for the Army of L.O.V.E. so we should show we are willing to unite and make a change, not hate each other or even put each other in danger by digging into each other's personal life. The focus should be on the hoax and on Mike, not on our fellow hoax believers.
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
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maybe we have to tweet things not related with the forum first and when we have more followers start with this other things, is too much info to someone who is not thinking by himself... i think people skip it, is easy witha fun video or things like that... <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
Absolutely agree - can't cure duality unless people are willing to look in the mirror & take responsibility for their own thoughts & actions. It's crazy to take no notice of the actual message from Mike - the man we all started out being here for in the first place & then even spread the opposite without seeming to notice the irony. Noone has an excuse to hack anothers private life or endanger anyone here - the only thing that matters is the message - whomever that comes from.
If I have a brainwave I'll add it here & see if it's viable. x
In this way maybe we could draw all groups together and become "United" as one group, once this is achieved and trust will come.
We could say have different Divisions for people who fight for Justise for MJ, for Believers and Non Believers, our common goal would be to spread MJ message, heal the world etc. We can then maybe get people to consider both sides of the story once there is a level of trust and love between all.
United we stand, divided we fall.
How can this be achieved, we need a figure head who can bring people together.
We need to get the ball rolling. Please all add your suggestions people of all beliefs please give your views.
Good Bless MJ, and each and every one of us.
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With L.O.V.E. always.
And yes, that's how Facebook works. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
If someone could come up with a short, informative letter
To send all of them, maybe we can get more people to join!
Also, we can DM it (on Twitter) to people with a higher friend count.
We can make this work.
So how do we reach out to them? That is the question. Maybe we can make you tube videos of our own explaining how we are concerned with the division of the fans...make a plea with them for a "truce" We can ask the non believers to work with us instead of against us. We just need everyone to realize that we all have a common goal here, we all want "justice4MJ"...that's the bottom line here.
I have also said before that I have been posting messages in the "comments" section of all of Michael related you tube videos. Any other suggestions out there?? We need to brainstorm here, if there is a will there is a way!
Back to the topic. Let's make a review of what we have that can be used to spread the message. We have Facebook, Youtube, Twitter, we can send emails to newspapers, radios, leave comments on blogs and forums. We can do that, but how many time until we gather enough people and that it hits the world that's the question ? And will people do it if there are so many divisions about <!-- m -->http://www.elvisandmj.com<!-- m --> ?
At this point we need more something in the sense of "breaking news", means in a quite short period of time like for the hashtag thing.
If it was mentionned even just once by a famous personnality, media outlet TV or radio it would be of a great help. Well these are not real new ideas but I really don't know what we can do. I'll still think about it and if I'm enlightened I'll share. God bless you.
I wish I knew what the magic "fix" was, but i don't. All I know is that I will not give up!
I think some people are giving up the fight because we haven't had any new "clues" lately. I just wish that more people could see that there is more to this hoax then that.
I hope we can come up with some other ideas, I have suggested some, but no one seems to respond to my ideas...oh well...I will keep at it in hopes that I can get through to somebody.
Thank you mjj4ever777. I love your idea to reach to non believers but now I realize that even some beLIEvers tend to fall again in the doubt. If only we could mobilize every beLIEver, everyone who signed up to be part of the Army of Love it would be a good thing. Now I feel that everything has slown down there is less energy. I don't know but I feel that we need a new TS update. I know he said there will be probably none before BAM but this is a critical situation no ?
Well I'll never lose hope anyway. The message we have to spread is really worth it and Michael counts on us. May God help us.
We are putting the hoax out as a subliminal message kinda like feeding a new born a big whole carrot. Maybe by lowering the standards and taking baby steps with non believers they will learn to understand. maybe by creating social site like ex: myspace, facebook, twitter or even a normal MJ forum and mixing in a lot of different objectives that do NOT just push the awareness of the hoax but spoon feed it to them at the same time maybe then it will begin to settle in to them.
One of my friends didn't like MJ much because he believed everything the media said about him. I began in baby steps showing him videos, biographies, sending music and more to him and he became interested til he brought his first MJ cd. Then i sent him a couple of videos and posts from here and he gradually attached to it. Now he believes mj is alive and is hoaxing his death for a reason. So idk maybe the way we go about things is just too much for non believers.
We are doing this for love. to make people aware of the hoax and whats going on in this world. we are focus on justice for mj. maybe the love we have for mj will prevail in baby steps for non believers to begin to see the light of the hoax hopefully. good/love conquers all and that's what we must remain to focus on.
What about on yahoo? No one can really stop you there, if you just keep searching, it'll eventually get on the trending thing, won't it?
I only discovered this site 3 or 4 months ago, but if the first thing I'd read had been that Elvis is alive I'd probably have stopped reading right there and then! For me, I had to go through a distinct process of learning about MJ as more than just a good singer and dancer, before I could start to address the niggling feelings that things weren't quite right about his death. Through watching his performances, listening to his speeches and interviews, reading his lyrics, poetry and writings, I learned to admire him as strong, passionate, perfectionist professional, a humble, sensitive, gentle, humanitarian, and a kind, honest, open, loving, funny man. It was only then that TS's articles that I found here made any sense to me. If you like, I found them when I was ready for them! And when the update about Elvis came along, I suppose I'd gained a certain trust, so it really did not seem so much of a shock, even though the thought had never crossed my mind that he might still be alive. I received it with a strange sense of excitement at a totally unexpected new twist in this whole story!
Maybe we should try and transfer that process to the wider world. As we've already seen with the Twitter thing, it's not going to be accepted 'by us' if we just start announcing they're both alive. We may have more success if we go back to basics and start simply, like we all did with our 'journeys' to whatever place we're at now, be that full blown believers, or those still with some doubts.
I think it's unrealistic to expect the world to be receptive to TS's ideas when most of the general public are still at the 'MJ was a good singer and dancer, but he was strange' stage. They have a LOT of catching up to do! Another problem I see is that most people don't have the time, even if they have the inclination, to find out more. You don't get to Mo and Souza's position with just a quick half hour on the computer!
I also wonder why MJ has to give us this task, when he could come out and say it all for himself and the world would have to sit up and take notice! What a press conference that would be: 'Hello, I'm not dead after all, but more than that, neither is Elvis!'
Sorry, my mind's wandering a bit now but a bit of light-hearted day-dreaming never did a girl any harm!
How?
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."I know that probably it doesn't help much but we could try...
MY MOTHER HAVE A PAGE OF HER BUSSINESS AND WILL ASK TO THE PERSON WHO DO HER PAGE ABOUT THAT, BUT SHE PAY TO PUT SOME KEY WORDS SO WHEN SOMEONE PUT THAT KEY WORDS IN GOOGLE HER SITE IS ONE OF THE FIRSTS OF THE LIST, BUT LIKE I SAY SHE PAY FOR THAT BUT SHE WILL TRY TO ASK TO THIS PERSON HOW TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT WITHOUT PAY. <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
1. Target different audience in different ways
Believers in either Elvis or MJ faked death through messages/links on existing members websites
MJ Fans through friendly messages left on forums/websites/you tube...etc
Broader audience through news articles (targetted publications) - TMZ does come to mind as a prime target as this site is already on the Blogroll.
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2.Use different communication media to best suit the audience
The ones discussed in 1) above + facebook + twitter + personal contacts + Local pamphlets + Tee Shirts ( 2 Kings for a BAM ... read more at <!-- m -->http://www.ElvisandMJ.com<!-- m -->) ....etc
3.Adapt the message to suit the audience
For Example, non believers need to be educated and gradually brought in - <!-- m -->http://www.ElvisAndMJ.com<!-- m --> would be too much initially and achieve very little I believe.
in the ideal world, spreading the message would be much easier if we had a "breaking news" to share! Something preferably MJ related that nobody could refute. (Mike, a bit of help? <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> TS, a bit of help? <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> )
Those are my thoughts on this late evening.... and for sure the Army of Love would need to be mobilised to do all of this.
With L.O.V.E
The link to this video could be given when tweeting #ElvisandMJdotcom. I think many people would be curious enough to click on the link which would increase the number of views, this way we are not relying on people tweeting alone. We could easily see how it is going as far as the number of views it gets and if there are enough then it could eventually get on the front page as the most watched video.
This also has the advantage that we would not need to tweet for hours on end, just click on the video.
One last idea is that under the video we could link to a thread on this forum specifically welcoming new video viewers who are intrigued to know more, maybe a welcome page which can help explain what we have found over this past year. I think this has to be done delicately and not too much at once. I am not good with technical stuff but I think this makes sense. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
Again....Thank you everyone!
Dayna
All my prayers goes to your friend and her family. I send you strength and courage to carry on, it must be a difficult and painful ordeal. I don't find the words really... I just want to tell you to not be sad there is a life after this one and I'm sure your friend is in a wonderful place now. Thank you so much for your commitment. Much love to you. God bless you.
seems like T.S. has found the solution he prefers.
Can someone explain me the video of Harvey Levin ? i haven't understood everything... thanks
its time i said my opinion on this whole this is also it thing.
ive been following whats been said by this person with interest for quite some time but i think it is just going too far now. i think "TS" could well be a forum admin trying to direct people to this forum- why else would "TS" only use this one forum? after all there are 100s perfectly good other hoax forums out there?
with regards to the Elvis thing,i think Elvis DID fake his death but i do not think i believe this Eliza lady- (sorry if your reading this, Eliza!) ive read through her website and im just not 100% convinced- if her brother really is Elvis Presley and he really does want to "BAM!" then why cant he just go on tv or get a lawyer to make a press conference, why doesnt he just get Lisa Marie to go on tv & say "my father is actually alive" ?! instead of having his sister running round making herself look like a fool? if she really is Elvis' sister then hes really not being a very good brother by letting herself look like a looney!
Eliza's story is rather compelling but it just DONT make sense & i think "TS" was running out of ideas to the MJ death hoax theory so they decided to explore other avenues to get more people eating out of the palm of their hands & following them like lemmings over a cliff to insanity, all while creating great advertisements for this forum.
after all, if Souza or any other admin on this forum genuinely believed in the double bam they would have most likely created "elvisandmj.com" on ANOTHER web site, NOT just sticking it as a redirect to this forum. it prooves to me that yes! "TS" DID make some accurate predictions and points but they are just cooincidence & "TS" is no more than just another admin member or fan that is messing with us for attention.
That is just my opinion & i know many agree with me & many others may be upset or offended, but it is the reason why i have stopped wanting to use this forum as much as the others(hoax theory forums) Personally , i think its about time we reported "TS" to the police- that way we could find out who they are, what they are doing, if they are genuine & if then we can all stop wasting our energy on who "TS" is & worry about real solid clues in this hoax.
once again, just my opinion & sorry if i upset anyone.
PEACE.
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