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  • Ok.

    its time i said my opinion on this whole this is also it thing.

    You are free to voice your opinion, but I really don't understand why you had to post it in this "New ideas to make <!-- m -->http://www.elvisandmj.com<!-- m --> known worldwide" thread.
    ive been following whats been said by this person with interest for quite some time but i think it is just going too far now. i think "TS" could well be a forum admin trying to direct people to this forum- why else would "TS" only use this one forum? after all there are 100s perfectly good other hoax forums out there?

    This is the largest MJ hoax forum, so it has the largest range.
    with regards to the Elvis thing,i think Elvis DID fake his death but i do not think i believe this Eliza lady- (sorry if your reading this, Eliza!) ive read through her website and im just not 100% convinced- if her brother really is Elvis Presley and he really does want to "BAM!" then why cant he just go on tv or get a lawyer to make a press conference, why doesnt he just get Lisa Marie to go on tv & say "my father is actually alive" ?! instead of having his sister running round making herself look like a fool? if she really is Elvis' sister then hes really not being a very good brother by letting herself look like a looney!

    I think you need to reread TS's post because you missed the point. Elvis Presley does not want to BAM. The BAM regarding Elvis would be when DNA proves that Elvis Presley did not die. Elvis has no intentions to come back as himself.
    Eliza's story is rather compelling but it just DONT make sense & i think "TS" was running out of ideas to the MJ death hoax theory so they decided to explore other avenues to get more people eating out of the palm of their hands & following them like lemmings over a cliff to insanity, all while creating great advertisements for this forum.

    Creating great advertisements for this forum? For what? As you probably noticed there are no ads on this website/forum, so for sure no money is generated from clicks. In fact, every click costs money. Next to that, we don't need advertisement for our website. Click this link: <!-- m -->http://lmgtfy.com/?q=michael+jackson+hoax<!-- m --> Which website is the first one listed by Google..? Right.

    Your comment "to get more people eating out of the palm of their hands & following them like lemmings over a cliff to insanity" insinuates that the members here can't think for themselves and evaluate what's posted here. I consider that quite offensive and it doesn't show any respect to the members.

    after all, if Souza or any other admin on this forum genuinely believed in the double bam they would have most likely created "elvisandmj.com" on ANOTHER web site, NOT just sticking it as a redirect to this forum. it prooves to me that yes! "TS" DID make some accurate predictions and points but they are just cooincidence & "TS" is no more than just another admin member or fan that is messing with us for attention.

    Dom, you are making assumptions that hold no truth at all. Souza nor I created elvisandmj.com, period.

    Regarding the "coincidental predictions and points" by TS: feel free to believe whatever you want, and ignore the facts about the "coincidences".

    That is just my opinion & i know many agree with me & many others may be upset or offended, but it is the reason why i have stopped wanting to use this forum as much as the others(hoax theory forums) Personally , i think its about time we reported "TS" to the police- that way we could find out who they are, what they are doing, if they are genuine & if then we can all stop wasting our energy on who "TS" is & worry about real solid clues in this hoax.

    Report TS to the police..? For what? Connecting dots? Predicting events that did take place? Pointing out to numerology? I'm very curious about what law TS broke in your opinion... Can you please post a scanned copy of the official police report here after you have reported TS to the police? Thank you!
  • HazzelyHazzely Posts: 1,443
    Report TS to the police? ...<!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->

    LOL <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->

    Who said padded cell? ..
  • ahhhhhhhhhhahahahaha..... report him to the police?!?! Come on guys! We haven't completely lost our minds yet have we?! Hope not, because we're just gettin' started!
  • SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400
    Ok.

    its time i said my opinion on this whole this is also it thing.

    ive been following whats been said by this person with interest for quite some time but i think it is just going too far now. i think "TS" could well be a forum admin trying to direct people to this forum- why else would "TS" only use this one forum? after all there are 100s perfectly good other hoax forums out there?

    with regards to the Elvis thing,i think Elvis DID fake his death but i do not think i believe this Eliza lady- (sorry if your reading this, Eliza!) ive read through her website and im just not 100% convinced- if her brother really is Elvis Presley and he really does want to "BAM!" then why cant he just go on tv or get a lawyer to make a press conference, why doesnt he just get Lisa Marie to go on tv & say "my father is actually alive" ?! instead of having his sister running round making herself look like a fool? if she really is Elvis' sister then hes really not being a very good brother by letting herself look like a looney!

    Eliza's story is rather compelling but it just DONT make sense & i think "TS" was running out of ideas to the MJ death hoax theory so they decided to explore other avenues to get more people eating out of the palm of their hands & following them like lemmings over a cliff to insanity, all while creating great advertisements for this forum.

    after all, if Souza or any other admin on this forum genuinely believed in the double bam they would have most likely created "elvisandmj.com" on ANOTHER web site, NOT just sticking it as a redirect to this forum. it prooves to me that yes! "TS" DID make some accurate predictions and points but they are just cooincidence & "TS" is no more than just another admin member or fan that is messing with us for attention.

    That is just my opinion & i know many agree with me & many others may be upset or offended, but it is the reason why i have stopped wanting to use this forum as much as the others(hoax theory forums) Personally , i think its about time we reported "TS" to the police- that way we could find out who they are, what they are doing, if they are genuine & if then we can all stop wasting our energy on who "TS" is & worry about real solid clues in this hoax.

    once again, just my opinion & sorry if i upset anyone.


    PEACE.

    Wow, thanks for the compliment. I wish I was that educated in math.

    You are one of the people trying to discredit this forum, its members and its admins. Who are you to tell the members here they are lemmings? I don't allow that kind of behavior. Stating your opinion is fine, you don't have to agree with us or TS, and if you don't like this forum: nobody is keeping you here. But disrespect is NOT allowed her, so here is your warning.

    And sure, report TS to the police, maybe they can debunk his posts, because you clearly can't. The police will not even look at your case, TS redirects and posts information on a forum, of which everyone is free to believe. No crime in that dom.

    And I am serious about the warning. Everyone can voice their opinion, but with respect to others. I looked the word up for you:

    Respect
    Definition: To take notice of; to regard with special attention; to regard as worthy of special consideration; hence, to care for; to heed.
    <!-- m -->http://ardictionary.com/Respect/4921<!-- m -->

    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    I am a manager by profession, and I was a little contablilidad and I do what makes TS ... <!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: --> <!-- s:mrgreen: -->:mrgreen:<!-- s:mrgreen: -->
  • mjaliveomgmjaliveomg Posts: 178
    We can try spread by email chains (very popular here where i live),
    send to everyone who we know (friends, family)...
    What u guys think about <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: -->
    I can use google translator to send to everyone here (Brasil)
    I think GinaJackson can help too (if she wants to)
  • To spread the message that Michael hoaxed his death, just as Elvis did is an interesting challenge as most people just cannot see much further than their current reality; so what do we need to do?

    1. Target different audience in different ways
    Believers in either Elvis or MJ faked death through messages/links on existing members websites
    MJ Fans through friendly messages left on forums/websites/you tube...etc
    Broader audience through news articles (targetted publications) - TMZ does come to mind as a prime target as this site is already on the Blogroll.

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    2.Use different communication media to best suit the audience
    The ones discussed in 1) above + facebook + twitter + personal contacts + Local pamphlets + Tee Shirts ( 2 Kings for a BAM ... read more at <!-- m -->http://www.ElvisandMJ.com<!-- m -->) ....etc

    3.Adapt the message to suit the audience
    For Example, non believers need to be educated and gradually brought in - <!-- m -->http://www.ElvisAndMJ.com<!-- m --> would be too much initially and achieve very little I believe.
    in the ideal world, spreading the message would be much easier if we had a "breaking news" to share! Something preferably MJ related that nobody could refute. (Mike, a bit of help? <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> TS, a bit of help? <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> )

    Those are my thoughts on this late evening.... and for sure the Army of Love would need to be mobilised to do all of this.

    With L.O.V.E

    seems like T.S. has found the solution he prefers.

    Can someone explain me the video of Harvey Levin ? i haven't understood everything... thanks

    HI! Nevrozay - Harvey just explains how TMZ gathers and uses information. He says that TMZ takes information from many different sources and angles, and publish things very quickly, some small items, some big items and sometime they get the very big one, the breaking news! My intention was to re-enforce the message that TMZ would certainly be a realistic communication channel, more so as they have this site listed on their Blogroll.

    With L.O.V.E
  • NeVrOzAyNeVrOzAy Posts: 58
    thank you for the answer ! <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
  • GlindaGlinda Posts: 658
    <!-- m -->http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=122706<!-- m -->

    Ask david Icke?? <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
  • Its herIts her Posts: 1,137


    You all might have noticed the Twitter thing didn't work out. Main reason is that we have a lot of people boycotting it and spreading hate towards us so that others are not participating either. I don't think starting a new rally will do the trick, not even if it's planned a month in advance, because that will only give the haters more time to spread videos as to why people should NOT join.

    I do still think it's important to get http://www.elvisandmj.com out there, and there are more ways to do that than using Twitter. If this hoax was meant to be a secret, he would have 'died' another way. This thread is for ideas to spread this without a trending topic on Twitter. Please share your ideas in this thread.
    It's a shame to see the hate between hoaxers, I am certain Mike would be disappointed to see where this is going. We signed up for the Army of L.O.V.E. so we should show we are willing to unite and make a change, not hate each other or even put each other in danger by digging into each other's personal life. The focus should be on the hoax and on Mike, not on our fellow hoax believers.


    You are right---if MJ wanted this to be his secret escape or secret anywhich way, we wouldn'tve even HAD any clues to discover, digest, and document, delight in(!), and discuss here.

    In keeping with that logic, the genius HAD to have planned this Adventure to the nines, before EVER taking the first step. You can count on it, that this thing has a beginning, middle and end, ALREADY.

    I can't believe he planned that a media who dissed him all his natural life, could now be depended on to break his news. <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> That doesn't even FEEL right. The sweet, trusting MJ, YEAH, but the savvy and realistic, feet-on-the-ground BUSINESSman--NEVER!

    I believe any intelligent person who looked at the clues would KNOW they were sitting on a major story, here, and one would think the nosey opportunists would have spilled all the beans, by NOW---but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. There are SO many obvious clues already published,{ right here! <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) --> }

    it is OBVIOUS to me that the general press has gotten together and agreed that since this exposure is what he wants, "TOO BAD, TOO SAD, Wacko--what did you ever do for us? You didn't talk to us when we wanted to expose your love life, or any other private, personal things---WE are not playing your Resurrection Game, now!

    The WORLD may have stopped turning the DAY you died, but, YOU're not the boss of US"

    It is a FACT of life, that people IGNORE on purpose or, worse, try to take down anyone who IS ALL THAT, and appears (to their pea brains)to know it... <!-- s:( -->:(<!-- s:( -->

    If you doubt me, listen to this <!-- s:arrow: -->:arrow:<!-- s:arrow: -->

    a major publisher (NAMELESS FOR A REASON) came out with a magazine about the most influential people on earth, a couple of months ago, and

    COMPLETELY,

    GLARINGLY

    OVERLOOKED

    THE GREATEST

    MOVER AND SHAKER ON, AT LEAST, NINE PLANETS,

    (BARRING that THE CONCEPT OF THE INTERNET WAS HATCHED AND FACILITATED, too) in all of the last CENTURY <!-- s:!: -->:!:<!-- s:!: --> <!-- s:!: -->:!:<!-- s:!: --> <!-- s:!: -->:!:<!-- s:!: --> <!-- s:!: -->:!:<!-- s:!: --> <!-- s:!: -->:!:<!-- s:!: --> <!-- s:twisted: -->:twisted:<!-- s:twisted: -->

    There are EVEN people recognized in the pages, who owe ALL of the open doors THEY skated through to MICHAEL JACKSON, and his MAJOR LOVE blanketing this planet. I bought it, without perusing it, because I just KNEW he was there, and when he wasn't, I almost cried, it was such an INTENTIONAL slap in the face...

    I believe MJ has something ELSE up his magic sleeve, which will compell the greedy you-know-whats to break the news, WHEN the REAL time comes... <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) --> <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->

    As far as discussing strategy and tactic here, in an open forum, the losers will then HAVE our game plan and diss that TOO. <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> <!-- s:x -->:x<!-- s:x -->

    <!-- s:idea: -->:idea:<!-- s:idea: --> We don't need to put our HEADS together---we need to put our HEARTS together, and out-LOVE them.

    <!-- s:arrow: -->:arrow:<!-- s:arrow: --> <!-- s:arrow: -->:arrow:<!-- s:arrow: --> LOVE NEVER FAILS <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) --> <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
  • curlscurls Posts: 3,111
    That's a very interesting angle Its her, hmmm ... so the media know all about the hoax but aren't saying anything because they don't want to play into MJ's hands? It's a possibility certainly, but they're motivated more by money than by playing games, and for sure, MJ news makes them loads of money. They could be keeping quiet because they don't want to be forced into admitting all their past MJ related wrong doings when they're brought into the spotlight.

    I tend to think they just don't know, because ironically, they believe their own stories!!

    If TMZ ('helped' by us maybe?!) eventually come out with something explosive and the rest of the media don't pick it up and run with it, then we'll know your suspicions are correct.

    Even though I have my doubts about your theory, I do like the way you've looked at this from a different standpoint. And out-loving them sounds like a great idea!
  • 2 Bad2 Bad Posts: 289
    The media is like The Fonz in Happy Days- they know they were wrong but they can't say the words!!
    The money they made on their slants and lies will be realized that it was all for money and no LOVE whatsoever. Which is fact.
    They are playing the game and helping the plan in some ways, how many believe MJ is dead? The media made sure that all would believe. When things started to get going in too many directions is when we realized that there is no way the Most Famous Man in the World could have died. I've been here a long time and I am no fool. I wasn't a fool from many, many years back.
    I think going back to the beginning, the O2 announcement is a great way to start. Those that argue that it wasn't MJ need to re-think, if that is what his purpose was. He accomplished the first act by confusing some real diehards. Normal every day people that think his music is cool probably don't give the footage another thought. But we did!
  • I was thinking, as a first step, to find a way to Google optimize the site elvisandmj.com, to receive a high ranking when people look for keywords such as "michael jackson" and "elvis" (but not only). This way we could get a high traffic on the site from all the MJ/Elvis fans and people who seek any kind of information about them. I know there is here a money-related problem, but I'm making a call to all the IT specialists around here, maybe we can make this work somehow. I also found a free Google website optimizer, but I honestly don't know how "demo" it is or if we can achieve our goals with it (and for how long): <!-- m -->https://www.google.com/accounts/Service ... 3Den&hl=en<!-- m -->.

    Please send your feedback and professional expertise on this, I think it is a good first step. Thanks!


    LOVE,
    Andy
  • newoldfannewoldfan Posts: 153
    Sorry if this has already been suggested (I don't have much time to read all the posts) but how about making a Facebook page for ElvisandMJ.
    Millions of people use Facebook every day to keep up with friends, upload photos, share links and videos and there's a translations application. There are a few MJ Death Hoax pages but they don't have many followers. (Maybe they're not trying hard enough! <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> Btw does this forum have one? <!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: --> ) However, the official Michael Jackson page has over 16 million followers and likewise Elvis Presley's page has over 800,000 followers so there's no doubt that people do follow them on Facebook.

    Although I have a Facebook account I'm not an expert. I think it can be done by one of three different ways...either:

    1. Create an Official page as a local business, brand, product or organisation, artist, band or public figure.
    This would have to be done by the official representative of the organisation.

    2. Create a Community page to generate support for your favourite cause or topic.
    If it becomes very popular (attracting thousands of fans <!-- s:P -->:P<!-- s:P -->) it will be adopted and maintained by the Facebook community.

    3. Create a Group to communicate with other Facebook members who share an interest or hobby.

    We could post lots of videos (I'm all in favour of using visual aids initially to attract attention - I came across this YouTube video by accident and it certainly caught my attention and curiosity! <!-- m -->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8FshnSFpg4<!-- m --> Up until that point I was in the "you think Elvis is still alive <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> camp", to inform/educate people about the Eliza Presley story and the connections between MJ's and Elvis's "deaths" and, of course, make the link to <!-- m -->http://www.elvisandmj.com<!-- m -->.
  • trublutrublu Posts: 1,011
    What about going on to 'Elvis is alive' forums and trying to 'join forces' with them? I think this would have to be done very tactfully and respectfully because there seems to be a lot of rivalry between MJ fans and Elvis fans (for a reason that I have never quite understood to be honest!). If we let them know that we support them and want to help get their message across, we may just get a load more supporters in return. It would be great for the Elivs believers and the MJ believers to unite. What do you think? <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: -->
  • Its herIts her Posts: 1,137
    That's a very interesting angle Its her, hmmm ... so the media know all about the hoax but aren't saying anything because they don't want to play into MJ's hands? It's a possibility certainly, but they're motivated more by money than by playing games, and for sure, MJ news makes them loads of money. They could be keeping quiet because they don't want to be forced into admitting all their past MJ related wrong doings when they're brought into the spotlight....

    I tend to think they just don't know, because ironically, they believe their own stories!!

    If TMZ ('helped' by us maybe?!) eventually come out with something explosive and the rest of the media don't pick it up and run with it, then we'll know your suspicions are correct.

    Even though I have my doubts about your theory, I do like the way you've looked at this from a different standpoint. And out-loving them sounds like a great idea!

    Yup---they are giving him "a treatment" (like my sisters give their boyfriends); still ticked off about two things:

    1] For not letting one or two of them IN ON the big hoax prior to implementation---NO one gets to scoop the story, as how these outfits bite and devour each other for the priviledge, usually. No competitive chase and under the table, spoonfeed= no interest.

    Or, perhaps they are jealous that certain folk(such as Larry King) were told...Anyway, they are not going to work for it; it's cheaper to make something up, and, WHAT does a dead man do? (Nuttin', honey.) The Man has to show some <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> beginning, stirrings of Life....

    <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> I KNOW HE HATES THIS, but...hows about startin' somthin'...something (cleanly) juicy going on...how about hiring a mysterious sidekick, a little rumor, innuendo, ...different than EVERYthing else ever said concerning Mr. Wonderful... <!-- s:idea: -->:idea:<!-- s:idea: --> I'll play! Let the performance begin! <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:P -->:P<!-- s:P --> <!-- s:P -->:P<!-- s:P --> <!-- s:P -->:P<!-- s:P --> <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->

    Yeah, gossiping about MJ makes them money, but don't forget, he COST them some, too:

    2] they are STILL ticked off that he made them wait hours for a sunset burial, looking like fools, pre-empting regularly scheduled programming, and improvising and killing time for some HOT breaking news---which the family SAID was just a simple service and placing of the casket into the crypt. (The TV press, anyway, is NOT going to play the on air waiting game again, <!-- s:evil: -->:evil:<!-- s:evil: --> <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> <!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: --> you BAD mischievious BOY <!-- s:!: -->:!:<!-- s:!: --> <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> ...)

    Just saying, the signs of a miffed press are there, Dude. <!-- s:arrow: -->:arrow:<!-- s:arrow: --> <!-- s:idea: -->:idea:<!-- s:idea: --> <!-- s:idea: -->:idea:<!-- s:idea: --> Do you want me to "man" the carrot or the stick? <!-- s:P -->:P<!-- s:P --> <!-- s:P -->:P<!-- s:P -->
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