so are we saying that if you follow ts without question that you are passing the test? or not?
I think, that if you do then you aren't passing the test.
I also think, upon rereading some of the TIAI updates, that sometimes TS gives us the correct info, and sometimes TS is misleading us... and I think it is up to the reader (investigator) to determine what information is legitimate and makes sense.... and what is illogical and nonsensical.... because I think there might just be a little of both in the updates, purposefully.
But this is strictly my opinion.
I think we get pointed in the direction of some rabbit holes, like any of the informants, some rabbit holes are real, some are dead ends (not real), but our hand is not going to be held all the way to the end. Independent research and investigation is required. The casual hoaxer need not apply.
Anyone notice it's kinda like they left that Army of L.O.V.E. tweet at the bottom of the page til someone noticed it was there before revamping that J5 site?
I feel like it was mere days after I posted this that Marlon "took over" the page. And it sat untouched for weeks. Seems too ironic to me.
Is it just me or has the ALLJACK5ONS twitter page been deleted??
Hi StrangerInCalifornia,
now it's Marlon_Jackson !! <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
Anyone notice it's kinda like they left that Army of L.O.V.E. tweet at the bottom of the page til someone noticed it was there before revamping that J5 site?
I feel like it was mere days after I posted this that Marlon "took over" the page. And it sat untouched for weeks. Seems too ironic to me.
Is it just me or has the ALLJACK5ONS twitter page been deleted??
Hi StrangerInCalifornia,
now it's Marlon_Jackson !! <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
lilwendy, good post, and I agree with most of it except for the religious part. I can clearly see that the bible has been used as a guidance (especially regarding the end of the world), but that doesn't mean I must just study the bible. As you know I am not a religious person, in fact I don't like "religion" because in my opinion (NO offense meant!) it's as much of a brain wash as many other things. I have read the parts I was directed to and understand the meaning of them, but I don't need a book that tells me what is right or wrong, because I know in my heart what's right and wrong.
I know there is a higher power, but I don't know if it's called God, Allah, Jehovah, Buddha or whatsoever. Too many wars have been and are about religion. There are too many "rules" in religion. There are too many powers in religion. Too many people have been killed because of religion. Religion causes division, and in order to beat the NWO, the evil and the hate there should be Unity.
You wrote "If we do this all for God’s glory, we will not fail!". I'm sorry, but I'm taking part in all this for my children in the first place, and for humanity in general. In my opinion it's good vs evil, and love vs hate.
I understand what you are saying Mo and you are entitled to your opinions. That is why I included the link to this post entitled Results of MY review. After reading all of TS' posts again, this is what I took away from it. This is what I personally believe I need to do. I am not telling anyone what they need to do, other than they need to read TS' posts and make their own list. I hope that makes sense.
Question for you though... where did I say you needed to be religious?
lilwendy, good post, and I agree with most of it except for the religious part. I can clearly see that the bible has been used as a guidance (especially regarding the end of the world), but that doesn't mean I must just study the bible. As you know I am not a religious person, in fact I don't like "religion" because in my opinion (NO offense meant!) it's as much of a brain wash as many other things. I have read the parts I was directed to and understand the meaning of them, but I don't need a book that tells me what is right or wrong, because I know in my heart what's right and wrong.
I know there is a higher power, but I don't know if it's called God, Allah, Jehovah, Buddha or whatsoever. Too many wars have been and are about religion. There are too many "rules" in religion. There are too many powers in religion. Too many people have been killed because of religion. Religion causes division, and in order to beat the NWO, the evil and the hate there should be Unity.
You wrote "If we do this all for God’s glory, we will not fail!". I'm sorry, but I'm taking part in all this for my children in the first place, and for humanity in general. In my opinion it's good vs evil, and love vs hate.
I understand what you are saying Mo and you are entitled to your opinions. That is why I included the link to this post entitled Results of MY review. After reading all of TS' posts again, this is what I took away from it. This is what I personally believe I need to do. I am not telling anyone what they need to do, other than they need to read TS' posts and make their own list. I hope that makes sense.
It's very interesting and refreshing to see how this has affected us all in very different but equally profund ways.
The best way to please God, or "glorify" God is to participate fully in all the wonderful creations available to us, instead of succumbing to the evil powers in this world.
lilwendy, good post, and I agree with most of it except for the religious part. I can clearly see that the bible has been used as a guidance (especially regarding the end of the world), but that doesn't mean I must just study the bible. As you know I am not a religious person, in fact I don't like "religion" because in my opinion (NO offense meant!) it's as much of a brain wash as many other things. I have read the parts I was directed to and understand the meaning of them, but I don't need a book that tells me what is right or wrong, because I know in my heart what's right and wrong.
I know there is a higher power, but I don't know if it's called God, Allah, Jehovah, Buddha or whatsoever. Too many wars have been and are about religion. There are too many "rules" in religion. There are too many powers in religion. Too many people have been killed because of religion. Religion causes division, and in order to beat the NWO, the evil and the hate there should be Unity.
You wrote "If we do this all for God’s glory, we will not fail!". I'm sorry, but I'm taking part in all this for my children in the first place, and for humanity in general. In my opinion it's good vs evil, and love vs hate.
I agree. I am far from being religious myself. I believe that the universe and its consciousness itself is very powerful on a quantum level and I believe there are good forces and bad forces and they don't have a specific name. Good post, though, Lilwendy. <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> =]
I really think people should stop questioning "Who" TS is, it's not very important at all, like he said, it only matters if the information he's giving us is valid.
Well, nobody can stop people asking who TS is. It's our nature to want to know. That's why we are here, believing Michael is not dead.
As about religion, I'm pretty religious myself, I trust God - or a higher power - no matter how you name it.I have faith in the power of prayer, as childish as it may sound. I think any prayer is charged with some sort of energy and makes a difference in the universe. And I think the Bible gives us a lot of teaching.
As far as I know Michael is very religious himself. He sayed that in the past and I don't think he's changed in the meanwhile.
Well, nobody can stop people asking who TS is. It's our nature to want to know. That's why we are here, believing Michael is not dead.
As about religion, I'm pretty religious myself, I trust God - or a higher power - no matter how you name it.I have faith in the power of prayer, as childish as it may sound. I think any prayer is charged with some sort of energy and makes a difference in the universe. And I think the Bible gives us a lot of teaching.
As far as I know Michael is very religious himself. He sayed that in the past and I don't think he's changed in the meanwhile.
There's no way for us to tell what Michael believed or continued to believe his entire life. Yes he believes in God, and yes he was a JW at one point, but that doesn't mean he ONLY believed in the JW teachings. Also, the point I was trying to make is that there is a difference between religion and spirituality. They are not one in the same. Religion is man-made, spirituality is not.
lilwendy, good post, and I agree with most of it except for the religious part. I can clearly see that the bible has been used as a guidance (especially regarding the end of the world), but that doesn't mean I must just study the bible. As you know I am not a religious person, in fact I don't like "religion" because in my opinion (NO offense meant!) it's as much of a brain wash as many other things. I have read the parts I was directed to and understand the meaning of them, but I don't need a book that tells me what is right or wrong, because I know in my heart what's right and wrong.
I know there is a higher power, but I don't know if it's called God, Allah, Jehovah, Buddha or whatsoever. Too many wars have been and are about religion. There are too many "rules" in religion. There are too many powers in religion. Too many people have been killed because of religion. Religion causes division, and in order to beat the NWO, the evil and the hate there should be Unity.
You wrote "If we do this all for God’s glory, we will not fail!". I'm sorry, but I'm taking part in all this for my children in the first place, and for humanity in general. In my opinion it's good vs evil, and love vs hate.
I could of not of said this any better myself....these are my thoughts exactly Mo, religion is man made, sorry not to offend anyone here but it is.. Being spiritual or with spirit is different. One needs to truly research this to come to ones conclusion. Go within the answers are there. One would be amazed on what happens when you go within to seek the truth, and to think outside the box. "Things are not what they seem to be." is a statement said to me years ago, and I have never forgotten it. The bottom line for me is love. That is all there is. It is what will make the change you just have to believe.
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The prophecy of the world order
The Bible reveals that, at the end of time, exists on Earth a single world Government, a world Empire, or a world order, which will have, as a Government, A representative. In addition, this Global Government will be supported and complemented by a single world religion. The human face of this global religion is a character from great charisma, which enjoy acceptance, appreciation and blind obedience of much of the population of the planet. Their main "flags" are: El Amor, La Piedad, world peace and the brotherhood of peoples.
All momentary views of "the things that must happen soon..." (Revelation 1: 1) John reveals, none is more intriguing and appalling that the vision of "The beast" of revelation chapter 13. This is not the first time that she has appeared biblical prophets. On the detail, it is evident that this is the same frightening creature whose description has already been three times. Juan had personally seen twice. Daniel had also seen 600 years earlier.
This beast represents the resurgence of IMPERIO Roman, which will become the COUNTERFEITING SATÁNICA EN scale world of the Kingdom of God. This empire is governed at the global level by A single person, A single man, the ANTICHRIST, who will be Satan's representative on Earth.
Rome will retrieve its greatness. As it controlled the old world, will also be the headquarters for the new world order, the dream of the United Nations.
This World Government not announced instantly, but that the process will be gradually.
Basically the way more effective and strong, is go "globalizing" people on your trade transactions. In this sense we have clear signs of NAFTA is advancing respect, taking account of trade agreements that have been developed worldwide, for quite some time, as the Economic Community European.
Benedict XVI read his first message of Christmas as Pope
The Pontiff called "build a new world order" and stated that, only if it is linked, humanity will face threats such as terrorism, poverty and epidemics.
Pope Benedict XVI urged today humanity committed "in the construction of a new world order founded on fair ethical and economic relations", in his first Christmas since acceded to the pontificate, in April message.
United humanity, said the Pope may face "as many current threats", which mentioned epidemics, the proliferation of weapons, terrorism, poverty and environmental degradation of the environment.
This was the first message of Benedict XVI "Urbi et Orbi" (the city and the world), pronounced before thousands of people gathered in the plaza San Pedro.
About the dangers on humanity, the Pope mentioned "from the threat of terrorism to humiliating poverty which millions of human beings, live from the non-proliferation to epidemics and environmental degradation that threatens the future of the planet".
He also said that contemporary man beware because it is at risk of falling into "spiritual atrophy", victim of its own "progress in scientific and technical field". "The man of the technological era risk being subjected to these same success of their intelligence and operational results", she said.
The Pope sent his greetings Christmas after the message "Urbi et Orbi" in 33 languages, since it joined the planned 32 the filipino language, and closed series Latin phrase of Saint Augustine: "power, man, because for you God has made man".
It's a little easy to say that religion is purely man-made, I rather would say that religion has been hijacked and driven to serve the powers that be (in their plan to control the masses) rather than to serve God, it's different in my opinion. The basis of all religions was peace, love, freedom, etc., but unfortunately the dark side has taken control over them and systematically and maliciously and insidiously corrupted the true message of God. The problem is not religion itself, it is what men has made of it and in its name, it's always men. Religion is not just about what's bad and what's good it is also about worshipping God alone.
Well, everyone is free to freely follow the path he or she has chosen this is the most important and anyways I believe that we will know the ultimate truth sooner or later, we just can wait and see.
Regarding Michael's message we cannot dismiss the fact that it has a 'religious' part and when I say that I don't imply a specific religion but to me, faith in God may also be part of the message or TS wouldn't quote the Bible? Am I wrong or not? I really would like to know if it's also part of the message TS...
The Pope sent his greetings Christmas after the message "Urbi et Orbi" in 33 languages, since it joined the planned 32 the filipino language, and closed series Latin phrase of Saint Augustine: "power, man, because for you God has made man".
Well... just a thought....
All Religions are taking this very seriously....
It's all about MAN...
Why are there no lady's on top?
And who wrote the bible?
Hmmm could it be MAN?
It's a little easy to say that religion is purely man-made, I rather would say that religion has been hijacked and driven to serve the powers that be (in their plan to control the masses) rather than to serve God, it's different in my opinion. The basis of all religions was peace, love, freedom, etc., but unfortunately the dark side has taken control over them and systematically and maliciously and insidiously corrupted the true message of God. The problem is not religion itself, it is what men has made of it and in its name, it's always men. Religion is not just about what's bad and what's good it is also about worshipping God alone.
Well, everyone is free to freely follow the path he or she has chosen this is the most important and anyways I believe that we will know the ultimate truth sooner or later, we just can wait and see.
Regarding Michael's message we cannot dismiss the fact that it has a 'religious' part and when I say that I don't imply a specific religion but to me, faith in God may also be part of the message or TS wouldn't quote the Bible? Am I wrong or not? I really would like to know if it's also part of the message TS...
I understand what you're saying. But unfortunately religion has become what man has made it to become. So whatever it was meant to be simply isn't anymore. And if it is about worshipping God alone, then it shouldn't matter how one views God. It should be personal. There should not be any rules or rituals. Different religions have different beliefs, Christians say you must believe the story of Jesus, and they look down upon others who do not live by the story of Jesus, even if they still worship God. Who is to say who is right and who is wrong? And the word "worship" means different things to different people as well.
It's a little easy to say that religion is purely man-made, I rather would say that religion has been hijacked and driven to serve the powers that be (in their plan to control the masses) rather than to serve God, it's different in my opinion. The basis of all religions was peace, love, freedom, etc., but unfortunately the dark side has taken control over them and systematically and maliciously and insidiously corrupted the true message of God. The problem is not religion itself, it is what men has made of it and in its name, it's always men. Religion is not just about what's bad and what's good it is also about worshipping God alone.
Well, everyone is free to freely follow the path he or she has chosen this is the most important and anyways I believe that we will know the ultimate truth sooner or later, we just can wait and see.
Regarding Michael's message we cannot dismiss the fact that it has a 'religious' part and when I say that I don't imply a specific religion but to me, faith in God may also be part of the message or TS wouldn't quote the Bible? Am I wrong or not? I really would like to know if it's also part of the message TS...
It's a little easy to say that religion is purely man-made, I rather would say that religion has been hijacked and driven to serve the powers that be (in their plan to control the masses) rather than to serve God, it's different in my opinion. The basis of all religions was peace, love, freedom, etc., but unfortunately the dark side has taken control over them and systematically and maliciously and insidiously corrupted the true message of God. The problem is not religion itself, it is what men has made of it and in its name, it's always men. Religion is not just about what's bad and what's good it is also about worshipping God alone.
Well, everyone is free to freely follow the path he or she has chosen this is the most important and anyways I believe that we will know the ultimate truth sooner or later, we just can wait and see.
Regarding Michael's message we cannot dismiss the fact that it has a 'religious' part and when I say that I don't imply a specific religion but to me, faith in God may also be part of the message or TS wouldn't quote the Bible? Am I wrong or not? I really would like to know if it's also part of the message TS...
I understand what you're saying. But unfortunately religion has become what man has made it to become. So whatever it was meant to be simply isn't anymore. And if it is about worshipping God alone, then it shouldn't matter how one views God. It should be personal. There should not be any rules or rituals. Different religions have different beliefs, Christians say you must believe the story of Jesus, and they look down upon others who do not live by the story of Jesus, even if they still worship God. Who is to say who is right and who is wrong? And the word "worship" means different things to different people as well.
That's why I say that at this point we just can wait and see because when I see the level of corruption of my own religion (Islam) I'm shocked and I tell myself that only God can make things clear. But my faith in God is stronger than everything I deepy believe in God so I don't give up on that. Religions are corrupt today, to me that's a fact.
@trublu
I don't know if this is in reference to my post but I don't think that it's part of the test, TS cannot force people to believe...I just wanted to know if it was part of the message. Maybe not and that the Bible quotes are just a way to convey the message and just shows that TS is a believer without implying more than that.
@trublu
I don't know if this is in reference to my post but I don't think that it's part of the test, TS cannot force people to believe...I just wanted to know if it was part of the message. Maybe not and that the Bible quotes are just a way to convey the message and just shows that TS is a believer without implying more than that.
I agree with you and I just pose the question because although I do think there is 'something' out there, I wouldn't like to think if I was 100% atheist that I would be judged for that as I try to be a good person regardless. The quotes from the bible were simply to show that despite a lot of good things in the bible (as in any religious book) it is really outdated in a lot of ways and it is difficult to apply some of it to life nowadays. Then you end up picking and choosing which parts of the bible you believe in. I think just general peace and love and seeking the truth are very important. I hope I did not offend anyone with my quotes.
I agree that we need to look outside the box, and definately outside the rigid walls of a church. Although church, like culture, nationality, organizations, and family can offer some structure, sense of belonging and purpose. Perhaps in the age of internet, easy communication, fast travel we are growing out of the need of some of that. I've been heavily involved in church all my life up until about 6/7 years ago when our immediate family stopped going anywhere. Before it was us against them, the lost. But now I'm free to love everyone, not judge anyone, search for truth without any taboos, or sense of superiority. Being on this site has really stretched me, given new understanding of many things. I still love the Bible but in a different way now. Michael says he reads the Bible, prays to God and tries to be like Jesus, but he doesn't talk about being a Christian, hell, being saved, or that other religions are false, as far as I have seen.
Just in response to the posts others just made I will add, that I believe the Bible teaches that there is no free will, and that the Creator of the Universe has planned every action and thought you made/make, though you think you are choosing. His history drama planned for evil, a great adversary in Satan, and that people would come up with every conceivable way of thinking and doctrine. We can see throughout history, that there is a consequence for every action and belief, and as we annalyze history we can see what works and what doesn't work. The end result is love and each human graduates to be heir to the throne, sons of God, little gods. Then all will be in all, and all will happen according to God's plan of the ages. He is the man behind the curtain. But when we look back, it will all have been a great adventure!
I was kind of surprised when we were hearing about this guru called Paramahansa Yogananda and part of his teaching was something I agreed with, except I would exchange resurrection for reincarnation:
Echoing traditional Hindu teachings, he taught that the entire universe is God's cosmic motion picture, and that individuals are merely actors in the divine play who change roles through reincarnation. He taught that mankind's deep suffering is rooted in identifying too closely with one's current role, rather than with the movie's director, or God.
This is just where I am on my journey, and I respect others on theirs.
Wow! Lots of interesting thoughts and opinions have been posted here since I went to bed last night. I have to go out now but will read them all fully when I get back. Someone said we shouldn't be speculating as to who TS is - but didn't TS actually say he/she was giving us hints as to who he/she is in one of the updates? If that's so then I surely it's not considered to be irrelevant. With this in mind, I've come up with another date made up from the numerological value of the TS and ST consonants mirrored forwards and backwards (21 and 12). Add the 2 and 1 together and you get 3, therefore the value of TS and ST in this context would equal 3/12. This is Marlon Jackson's birthdate (March 12th, 1957).
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I totally agree. I think we can follow the message without all becoming super religious but by just being loving caring people.
I think, that if you do then you aren't passing the test.
I also think, upon rereading some of the TIAI updates, that sometimes TS gives us the correct info, and sometimes TS is misleading us... and I think it is up to the reader (investigator) to determine what information is legitimate and makes sense.... and what is illogical and nonsensical.... because I think there might just be a little of both in the updates, purposefully.
But this is strictly my opinion.
I think we get pointed in the direction of some rabbit holes, like any of the informants, some rabbit holes are real, some are dead ends (not real), but our hand is not going to be held all the way to the end. Independent research and investigation is required. The casual hoaxer need not apply.
Hi StrangerInCalifornia,
now it's Marlon_Jackson !! <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
Well that is certainly interesting......
I understand what you are saying Mo and you are entitled to your opinions. That is why I included the link to this post entitled Results of MY review. After reading all of TS' posts again, this is what I took away from it. This is what I personally believe I need to do. I am not telling anyone what they need to do, other than they need to read TS' posts and make their own list. I hope that makes sense.
Question for you though... where did I say you needed to be religious?
It's very interesting and refreshing to see how this has affected us all in very different but equally profund ways.
Yes Jaci!!! We need to live fully!!
I agree. I am far from being religious myself. I believe that the universe and its consciousness itself is very powerful on a quantum level and I believe there are good forces and bad forces and they don't have a specific name. Good post, though, Lilwendy. <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> =]
As about religion, I'm pretty religious myself, I trust God - or a higher power - no matter how you name it.I have faith in the power of prayer, as childish as it may sound. I think any prayer is charged with some sort of energy and makes a difference in the universe. And I think the Bible gives us a lot of teaching.
As far as I know Michael is very religious himself. He sayed that in the past and I don't think he's changed in the meanwhile.
There's no way for us to tell what Michael believed or continued to believe his entire life. Yes he believes in God, and yes he was a JW at one point, but that doesn't mean he ONLY believed in the JW teachings. Also, the point I was trying to make is that there is a difference between religion and spirituality. They are not one in the same. Religion is man-made, spirituality is not.
I could of not of said this any better myself....these are my thoughts exactly Mo, religion is man made, sorry not to offend anyone here but it is.. Being spiritual or with spirit is different. One needs to truly research this to come to ones conclusion. Go within the answers are there. One would be amazed on what happens when you go within to seek the truth, and to think outside the box. "Things are not what they seem to be." is a statement said to me years ago, and I have never forgotten it. The bottom line for me is love. That is all there is. It is what will make the change you just have to believe.
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The Bible reveals that, at the end of time, exists on Earth a single world Government, a world Empire, or a world order, which will have, as a Government, A representative. In addition, this Global Government will be supported and complemented by a single world religion. The human face of this global religion is a character from great charisma, which enjoy acceptance, appreciation and blind obedience of much of the population of the planet. Their main "flags" are: El Amor, La Piedad, world peace and the brotherhood of peoples.
All momentary views of "the things that must happen soon..." (Revelation 1: 1) John reveals, none is more intriguing and appalling that the vision of "The beast" of revelation chapter 13. This is not the first time that she has appeared biblical prophets. On the detail, it is evident that this is the same frightening creature whose description has already been three times. Juan had personally seen twice. Daniel had also seen 600 years earlier.
This beast represents the resurgence of IMPERIO Roman, which will become the COUNTERFEITING SATÁNICA EN scale world of the Kingdom of God. This empire is governed at the global level by A single person, A single man, the ANTICHRIST, who will be Satan's representative on Earth.
Rome will retrieve its greatness. As it controlled the old world, will also be the headquarters for the new world order, the dream of the United Nations.
This World Government not announced instantly, but that the process will be gradually.
Basically the way more effective and strong, is go "globalizing" people on your trade transactions. In this sense we have clear signs of NAFTA is advancing respect, taking account of trade agreements that have been developed worldwide, for quite some time, as the Economic Community European.
Benedict XVI read his first message of Christmas as Pope
The Pontiff called "build a new world order" and stated that, only if it is linked, humanity will face threats such as terrorism, poverty and epidemics.
Pope Benedict XVI urged today humanity committed "in the construction of a new world order founded on fair ethical and economic relations", in his first Christmas since acceded to the pontificate, in April message.
United humanity, said the Pope may face "as many current threats", which mentioned epidemics, the proliferation of weapons, terrorism, poverty and environmental degradation of the environment.
This was the first message of Benedict XVI "Urbi et Orbi" (the city and the world), pronounced before thousands of people gathered in the plaza San Pedro.
About the dangers on humanity, the Pope mentioned "from the threat of terrorism to humiliating poverty which millions of human beings, live from the non-proliferation to epidemics and environmental degradation that threatens the future of the planet".
He also said that contemporary man beware because it is at risk of falling into "spiritual atrophy", victim of its own "progress in scientific and technical field". "The man of the technological era risk being subjected to these same success of their intelligence and operational results", she said.
The Pope sent his greetings Christmas after the message "Urbi et Orbi" in 33 languages, since it joined the planned 32 the filipino language, and closed series Latin phrase of Saint Augustine: "power, man, because for you God has made man".
Well, everyone is free to freely follow the path he or she has chosen this is the most important and anyways I believe that we will know the ultimate truth sooner or later, we just can wait and see.
Regarding Michael's message we cannot dismiss the fact that it has a 'religious' part and when I say that I don't imply a specific religion but to me, faith in God may also be part of the message or TS wouldn't quote the Bible? Am I wrong or not? I really would like to know if it's also part of the message TS...
Well... just a thought....
All Religions are taking this very seriously....
It's all about MAN...
Why are there no lady's on top?
And who wrote the bible?
Hmmm could it be MAN?
Chappie
I understand what you're saying. But unfortunately religion has become what man has made it to become. So whatever it was meant to be simply isn't anymore. And if it is about worshipping God alone, then it shouldn't matter how one views God. It should be personal. There should not be any rules or rituals. Different religions have different beliefs, Christians say you must believe the story of Jesus, and they look down upon others who do not live by the story of Jesus, even if they still worship God. Who is to say who is right and who is wrong? And the word "worship" means different things to different people as well.
"3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman [is] the man; and the head of Christ [is] God."
Supposedly....
Oh and
"35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church."
I think it's fair to say a woman didn't write this! lol
I agree with you Sarahli...
That's why I say that at this point we just can wait and see because when I see the level of corruption of my own religion (Islam) I'm shocked and I tell myself that only God can make things clear. But my faith in God is stronger than everything I deepy believe in God so I don't give up on that. Religions are corrupt today, to me that's a fact.
@trublu
I don't know if this is in reference to my post but I don't think that it's part of the test, TS cannot force people to believe...I just wanted to know if it was part of the message. Maybe not and that the Bible quotes are just a way to convey the message and just shows that TS is a believer without implying more than that.
I agree with you and I just pose the question because although I do think there is 'something' out there, I wouldn't like to think if I was 100% atheist that I would be judged for that as I try to be a good person regardless. The quotes from the bible were simply to show that despite a lot of good things in the bible (as in any religious book) it is really outdated in a lot of ways and it is difficult to apply some of it to life nowadays. Then you end up picking and choosing which parts of the bible you believe in. I think just general peace and love and seeking the truth are very important. I hope I did not offend anyone with my quotes.
Just in response to the posts others just made I will add, that I believe the Bible teaches that there is no free will, and that the Creator of the Universe has planned every action and thought you made/make, though you think you are choosing. His history drama planned for evil, a great adversary in Satan, and that people would come up with every conceivable way of thinking and doctrine. We can see throughout history, that there is a consequence for every action and belief, and as we annalyze history we can see what works and what doesn't work. The end result is love and each human graduates to be heir to the throne, sons of God, little gods. Then all will be in all, and all will happen according to God's plan of the ages. He is the man behind the curtain. But when we look back, it will all have been a great adventure!
I was kind of surprised when we were hearing about this guru called Paramahansa Yogananda and part of his teaching was something I agreed with, except I would exchange resurrection for reincarnation: This is just where I am on my journey, and I respect others on theirs.