Jermaine's song... dissing Michael

jacilovesmichaeljacilovesmichael Posts: 2,474
Has this been discussed? I have never listened to any of Jermaine's music... this makes me really wonder about Jermaine and his intentions...What do you guys think?

Check out the lyrics to one of his songs…

Word to the Badd
What up yo,
word to the badd(Michael's album "BAD", so this song is clearly directed towards Michael.)
Reconstructed (Plastic surgery?)
Been abducted
Don’t know who you are
They may love you
they don’t know you
Lonely superstar
never think about who you love
only think about number one
You forget about where you started from
You only think about what you want
don’t care about how it’s done
you only think about you, your throne (King of pop)
Be it right or be it wrong
It ain’t about your world
It ain’t about the things that you do
If you don’t care, I don’t care
Cause you keep thinkin’ ’bout you
It ain’t about you takin’ my pie
You been takin’ for a long time
If you don’t care, I don’t care
If you keep
Well I ain’t thinkin’ ’bout you
What up yo, word to the badd
Once you were made
You changed your shade (Vitiligo..?)
Was your color wrong?
Could not turn back
It’s a known fact
You were too far gone
You know I tried to be there for you
Like a brother I care for you
It didn’t matter you always play me off
You only care about what you want
You don’t care about how it’s done
You only think about you, your throne
Be it right or wrong
It ain’t about your world
It ain’t about the things that you do
If you don’t care, I don’t care
Cause you keep thinkin’ ’bout you
It ain’t about you takin’ my pie
You been takin’ for a long time
If you don’t care, I don’t care
If you keep
Well I ain’t thinkin’ ’bout you
Oh no no, I ain’t thinkin’ ’bout you
Oh no
What up yo, word to the badd
Thinkin’ about that pie that you’ve been takin’ from me
From a brother to another brother hard to believe
Lost and don’t know it yet you still show it
Givin’ seems to be harder than it is to receive
The glass has gotten shady, time to make it clearer,
Clean it up and lets start with the Man in the mirror.
Theres sadness there brother, aint no mistaken it,
Get a grip cause youre not far from breakin it.
Thinkin about the time when we used to be close,
It shouldn’t be past tense, cause nobody knows,
What the future may hold, what tomorrow might bring,
Its not guaranteed that you’ll be spreading your wings
But meanwhile, I continue to smile, cause in the back of my head,
I know you’re still a child (Neverland...)
You say that your a man, but that will never be.
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  • KimKim Posts: 245
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  • trublutrublu Posts: 1,011
    I think it has been discussed, though I can't find the thread. This is from ages ago though when they fell out right?
  • coloredgirlspeak | 23 de agosto de 2009
    Yes, every family fights so, I can't call it. It's always three sides to a story. Only thing Michael had much more public exposure than Jermaine. If he wanted to make their 'beef' public...yet, he chose to remain silent. A silent gentleman. I can't explain what Jermaine was going through. Rumor is he was angry w/Michael...The Story behind this song according to soulmusic247...
    Back in 1991 Jermaine thought that he had the biggest break in his music career when Laface records decided to sign him. For once he felt that he was going to top or at least become equal to MJ And Janet, (Okay not MJ but at least Janet lol). Jermaine was promised and convinced that he was about to become a megastar. He moved him and his family out to Atlanta.
    On June 3rd 1990 MJ passed out during a rehearsal backstage. At the hospital Jermaine told Michael about his deal with LaFace Records. Michael thought about his album Dangerous that was also about to released. Michael called up LaFace records and told them to come out there and help him with his Dangerous LP.

    LaFace Records put Jeramine career on hold and fled. (now my personal theory) Michael did not use there material, but he did send them back with a promise that they were to not get Jermaine his "big break". Jermaine realized he was being overlooked and ranted

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  • SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400
    This is a song Jermaine wrote when he was frustrated that he couldn't get contact with Mike. IMO everyone has issues with their family members at times, I had my share with my brothers as well. Jermaine sent the lyrics to Mike, but changed them before he released the song. This one is said to be leaked.

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    From around 4:00

    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

  • MJFAN7MJFAN7 Posts: 3,063
    Yes I heard of this a long time ago. This is why I lost some respect for Jermaine.
  • Yes I heard of this a long time ago. This is why I lost some respect for Jermaine.

    I know, but there are moments when we all act stupidly. I have said horrible things to people I love more than I love myself, things that I never believed, but unfortunately they came out of my mouth. If we're hurt by someone we love, we seek to hurt back, when the real intention behind it is to get them back to us.
    We really don't know anything about their relationship, so I don't think it's a good idea to judge Jermaine solely on his writing this song. He has spoken up for MJ in a number of occasions too. Of course these are mean words, but we've no idea what was going on between them when he wrote them. I'm inclined to believe he didn't mean them.
  • MJFAN7MJFAN7 Posts: 3,063
    Yes I heard of this a long time ago. This is why I lost some respect for Jermaine.

    I know, but there are moments when we all act stupidly. I have said horrible things to people I love more than I love myself, things that I never believed, but unfortunately they came out of my mouth. If we're hurt by someone we love, we seek to hurt back, when the real intention behind it is to get them back to us.
    We really don't know anything about their relationship, so I don't think it's a good idea to judge Jermaine solely on his writing this song. He has spoken up for MJ in a number of occasions too. Of course these are mean words, but we've no idea what was going on between them when he wrote them. I'm inclined to believe he didn't mean them.

    I understand, but I can't believe Jermaine would lash out like this on Michael, especially since the song is public and out there for everyone to see. I know Jermaine didn't mean for it to become public but he shouldn't have even recorded the song. I still have respect for Jermaine, just not as much after hearing about this song. <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
  • PinkTopazPinkTopaz Posts: 1,013
    Yes I heard of this a long time ago. This is why I lost some respect for Jermaine.

    I know, but there are moments when we all act stupidly. I have said horrible things to people I love more than I love myself, things that I never believed, but unfortunately they came out of my mouth. If we're hurt by someone we love, we seek to hurt back, when the real intention behind it is to get them back to us.
    We really don't know anything about their relationship, so I don't think it's a good idea to judge Jermaine solely on his writing this song. He has spoken up for MJ in a number of occasions too. Of course these are mean words, but we've no idea what was going on between them when he wrote them. I'm inclined to believe he didn't mean them.

    I understand, but I can't believe Jermaine would lash out like this on Michael, especially since the song is public and out there for everyone to see. I know Jermaine didn't mean for it to become public but he shouldn't have even recorded the song. I still have respect for Jermaine, just not as much after hearing about this song.
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    Looks like I share your opinion. Sure we all fight, but he should never have released it and given the people who want to bring him down and hate him another tool to use against him..
  • SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400
    Yes I heard of this a long time ago. This is why I lost some respect for Jermaine.

    I know, but there are moments when we all act stupidly. I have said horrible things to people I love more than I love myself, things that I never believed, but unfortunately they came out of my mouth. If we're hurt by someone we love, we seek to hurt back, when the real intention behind it is to get them back to us.
    We really don't know anything about their relationship, so I don't think it's a good idea to judge Jermaine solely on his writing this song. He has spoken up for MJ in a number of occasions too. Of course these are mean words, but we've no idea what was going on between them when he wrote them. I'm inclined to believe he didn't mean them.

    I understand, but I can't believe Jermaine would lash out like this on Michael, especially since the song is public and out there for everyone to see. I know Jermaine didn't mean for it to become public but he shouldn't have even recorded the song. I still have respect for Jermaine, just not as much after hearing about this song.
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    Looks like I share your opinion. Sure we all fight, but he should never have released it and given the people who want to bring him down and hate him another tool to use against him..

    Okay, scroll up and watch my post plus the video, he DIDN'T release it.

    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

  • surely after a while he had to realize the price michael paid to be in the position that jermaine wanted to be in.
  • RKRK Posts: 3,019
    In Jermaine's ex-wife's book she mentions that the two producers encouraged him to record this song because they were also upset with Mike at the time. He didn't use them on Dangerous as promised so they were the ones behind the scene goading Jermaine on. Only thing is that Jermaine was used and they get off [in the eyes of fans] free.
  • speaking of books. didn't janet have one that was supposed to come out about stress and eating or whatever? wonder if there might be any insights into anything else in there?
  • I remember when Oprah documentary in 1993, she asked Michael if he was envied by his brothers, Michael said he did not - after a "pause" - but by body language was easy to say otherwise. This song by Jermaine vasou in November 1991 (when the album "Dangerous" Michael was released). But Michael also resented Jermaine when he left the Jackson 5 in 1975 to launch a solo career at Motown, with the promise of making big success. But Jermaine has not achieved the expected success. Michael, a teenager and he has excelled as a boy, but he could not leave the group at the request of his mother. He only left the group after the release of "Thriller" album, with 24 years of age. Well, this is the reading that I do a small part of the story for all I know ... <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
  • PinkTopazPinkTopaz Posts: 1,013
    Yes I heard of this a long time ago. This is why I lost some respect for Jermaine.

    I know, but there are moments when we all act stupidly. I have said horrible things to people I love more than I love myself, things that I never believed, but unfortunately they came out of my mouth. If we're hurt by someone we love, we seek to hurt back, when the real intention behind it is to get them back to us.
    We really don't know anything about their relationship, so I don't think it's a good idea to judge Jermaine solely on his writing this song. He has spoken up for MJ in a number of occasions too. Of course these are mean words, but we've no idea what was going on between them when he wrote them. I'm inclined to believe he didn't mean them.

    I understand, but I can't believe Jermaine would lash out like this on Michael, especially since the song is public and out there for everyone to see. I know Jermaine didn't mean for it to become public but he shouldn't have even recorded the song. I still have respect for Jermaine, just not as much after hearing about this song.
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    Looks like I share your opinion. Sure we all fight, but he should never have released it and given the people who want to bring him down and hate him another tool to use against him..

    Okay, scroll up and watch my post plus the video, he DIDN'T release it.
    Ah, sorry, I was in a hurry and I skimmed- so, as usual, one of the Jacksons was used, eh? Ay, caramba..!
  • MJFAN7MJFAN7 Posts: 3,063
    Yes I heard of this a long time ago. This is why I lost some respect for Jermaine.

    I know, but there are moments when we all act stupidly. I have said horrible things to people I love more than I love myself, things that I never believed, but unfortunately they came out of my mouth. If we're hurt by someone we love, we seek to hurt back, when the real intention behind it is to get them back to us.
    We really don't know anything about their relationship, so I don't think it's a good idea to judge Jermaine solely on his writing this song. He has spoken up for MJ in a number of occasions too. Of course these are mean words, but we've no idea what was going on between them when he wrote them. I'm inclined to believe he didn't mean them.

    I understand, but I can't believe Jermaine would lash out like this on Michael, especially since the song is public and out there for everyone to see. I know Jermaine didn't mean for it to become public but he shouldn't have even recorded the song. I still have respect for Jermaine, just not as much after hearing about this song.
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    Looks like I share your opinion. Sure we all fight, but he should never have released it and given the people who want to bring him down and hate him another tool to use against him..

    Okay, scroll up and watch my post plus the video, he DIDN'T release it.

    I watched the video, but whether he released or not he still went into a recording studio and sang those lyrics.
  • chappiechappie Posts: 529
    Don't we all say sometimes words, to loved ones, that we later regret?
    I think that is called Human.
    Chappie
  • MJonmindMJonmind Posts: 7,290
    Hindsight is always easier than foresight. I think he's trying to help MJ now in the hoax.

  • I'm just going to repeat myself...

    It keeps amazing me that just about every article that's dissing Jermaine or talks about Jermaine's "problems" is accepted as "truth" and opinions are based upon those, while the fans freak out about every article in which Mike is dissed, and then it's all of a sudden "The media LIES!!". Double standards anyone..? <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->

    I seriously don't understand the "Jermaine bashing" that has been going on since the start of this hoax. Why do people keep jumping to conclusions, why is he judged all the time? Oh no, not all the time, I forgot that when Jermaine sends a good tweet or gives a good slip-up, everybody loves him...but beware if he does something that doesn't fit people's ideas...! <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->

    Keep in mind that everybody plays a roll in all this, Jermaine as well, so please refrain from bashing and judging while you have NO IDEA what the purpose or meaning of certain things are. Remember - things are not always as they seem, and I think we have had loads of evidence during the last 15 months that proves that.

    "Word to the Badd" is from November 1991, almost NINETEEN years old. There's no one here that once had a dispute with one of their siblings and did something they later regretted..? Come on... Bringing that song up time after time is raking over old coals.

    I would really crack up if one day we find out that Jermaine has been one of those who do post, and has made great friends here, while he's bashed in just about every thread that is about him.
  • can I please ask why you both are so into defending Jermaine? I have watched the Jackson family for a long time and have always been of the same opinion of Jermaine. If you watch video's of the trials you will certainly see Jermaine there but always watching for where the cameras are.. Watch them you will see. ) he,in my opinion always had an agenda and his agenda was himself.

    Some people are like that .. no denying.... the rest of the family were not always looking for cameras or looking for interviews..... or looking for concerts to promote themselves ( victory tour) .

    I will have respect for the rest of the family ( well perhaps not Joseph) but I will not have respect for Jermaine.

    I ask you to have an open mind into other opinions and you do know that there are others here who do not like Jermaine but DO like the rest of the family . We can still have our opinions but the ultimate focus of the forum is on the amazing talent and incredible genrousity of MJ and no other.

    I am ultimatly a forum member, who has been here from the beginning, because of my respect and reverance for Mr Jackson and his incredible talent and for the questions I have regarding his so called passing. I may not have seemed to have contributed much to the investigation but have read almost every post made in the last yr and have contibuted when I could.

    I value your opinion, otherwise I would not have been here for so long, and hope that you can value and allow other members opinions even though they may not coincide with your own. Peace to all
  • This is a song Jermaine wrote when he was frustrated that he couldn't get contact with Mike. IMO everyone has issues with their family members at times, I had my share with my brothers as well. Jermaine sent the lyrics to Mike, but changed them before he released the song. This one is said to be leaked.
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  • curlscurls Posts: 3,111
    One thing this hoax investigating is teaching me is that the modern obsession with 'celebrity' is totally out of control. I don't know when we, as a society, all decided we had a right to know, and comment on, every personal detail about someone, just because they are famous. What was wrong with just appreciating (or not) a performer for the performance they gave, whether that be an actor, musician, sportsman, whatever? If they wanted to tell us more, fine, but if they wanted to remain private, they could.

    And what's even more worrying is the way 'being famous' is like a career choice for so many young people - just watch programmes like X Factor etc. Do they even realise what 'being famous' will mean for their private lives, in today's society? I can't believe anyone wants that for themselves.

    I think it's dangerous when members of the public form deep, usually negative opinions about someone based, not on knowing them personally, but on tittle-tattle from trash media. I wish more people would realise most of it is lies, and the rest is not really any of our business.
  • SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400
    This is a song Jermaine wrote when he was frustrated that he couldn't get contact with Mike. IMO everyone has issues with their family members at times, I had my share with my brothers as well. Jermaine sent the lyrics to Mike, but changed them before he released the song. This one is said to be leaked.
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    Can you tell me what you mean with this, so I can actually reply back?

    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

  • trublutrublu Posts: 1,011
    Once I wrote a really horrible letter to my Brother, which I never sent.

    We fell out a while back over something stupid, but it turned into quite a big falling out.

    I am glad the letter was never sent, because it said a lot of things I didn't mean.

    Surely you have all fallen out with siblings before and said things you didn't mean?
  • can I please ask why you both are so into defending Jermaine? I have watched the Jackson family for a long time and have always been of the same opinion of Jermaine. If you watch video's of the trials you will certainly see Jermaine there but always watching for where the cameras are.. Watch them you will see. ) he,in my opinion always had an agenda and his agenda was himself.

    Some people are like that .. no denying.... the rest of the family were not always looking for cameras or looking for interviews..... or looking for concerts to promote themselves ( victory tour) .

    I will have respect for the rest of the family ( well perhaps not Joseph) but I will not have respect for Jermaine.

    I ask you to have an open mind into other opinions and you do know that there are others here who do not like Jermaine but DO like the rest of the family . We can still have our opinions but the ultimate focus of the forum is on the amazing talent and incredible genrousity of MJ and no other.

    I am ultimatly a forum member, who has been here from the beginning, because of my respect and reverance for Mr Jackson and his incredible talent and for the questions I have regarding his so called passing. I may not have seemed to have contributed much to the investigation but have read almost every post made in the last yr and have contibuted when I could.

    I value your opinion, otherwise I would not have been here for so long, and hope that you can value and allow other members opinions even though they may not coincide with your own. Peace to all

    The reason I defend Jermaine is that at least 95% of the bashing of Jermaine on this forum is a result of prejudice. Again:

    It keeps amazing me that just about every article that's dissing Jermaine or talks about Jermaine's "problems" is accepted as "truth" and opinions are based upon those, while the fans freak out about every article in which Mike is dissed, and then it's all of a sudden "The media LIES!!".

    Just check each and every thread about Jermaine on this forum, and you will bump into the same comments time after time. That is what really bothers me. We know that the media lies, and when it comes to Mike everybody here agrees on that, but when it comes to Jermaine almost each and every article about him is taken as the truth.

    What I'm trying to say is: Don't judge too quick and especially not when you don't know the facts, because you might burn your fingers.
  • can I please ask why you both are so into defending Jermaine? I have watched the Jackson family for a long time and have always been of the same opinion of Jermaine. If you watch video's of the trials you will certainly see Jermaine there but always watching for where the cameras are.. Watch them you will see. ) he,in my opinion always had an agenda and his agenda was himself.

    Some people are like that .. no denying.... the rest of the family were not always looking for cameras or looking for interviews..... or looking for concerts to promote themselves ( victory tour) .

    I will have respect for the rest of the family ( well perhaps not Joseph) but I will not have respect for Jermaine.

    I ask you to have an open mind into other opinions and you do know that there are others here who do not like Jermaine but DO like the rest of the family . We can still have our opinions but the ultimate focus of the forum is on the amazing talent and incredible genrousity of MJ and no other.

    I am ultimatly a forum member, who has been here from the beginning, because of my respect and reverance for Mr Jackson and his incredible talent and for the questions I have regarding his so called passing. I may not have seemed to have contributed much to the investigation but have read almost every post made in the last yr and have contibuted when I could.

    I value your opinion, otherwise I would not have been here for so long, and hope that you can value and allow other members opinions even though they may not coincide with your own. Peace to all

    The reason I defend Jermaine is that at least 95% of the bashing of Jermaine on this forum is a result of prejudice. Again:

    It keeps amazing me that just about every article that's dissing Jermaine or talks about Jermaine's "problems" is accepted as "truth" and opinions are based upon those, while the fans freak out about every article in which Mike is dissed, and then it's all of a sudden "The media LIES!!".

    Just check each and every thread about Jermaine on this forum, and you will bump into the same comments time after time. That is what really bothers me. We know that the media lies, and when it comes to Mike everybody here agrees on that, but when it comes to Jermaine almost each and every article about him is taken as the truth.

    What I'm trying to say is: Don't judge too quick and especially not when you don't know the facts, because you might burn your fingers.

    So we should not share our opinion about the news content of the tabloids, including TMZ, which has a unique space here in this forum and is also an information base for analysis TIAI / TS? Sorry, but I do not think people here (myself included) are behaving in a manner prejudicial or biased, since we share our opinions based on what we know through the media (tabloid or otherwise) or by statements of the person who is the target of the news, sometime in your life. Now only one question for you and Souza, with all due respect, of course, so I can better reflect on their "interventions": "Your comments about Michael (which is normal to happen), for example, if it has vitiligo or not, if he has undergone several plastic surgery or not, if your children are biological or not, or whether or not he was present at the press conference in London on March/09, how to evaluate them?
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