Michael Jackson and Religious Symbolism

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  • This connection seems really out there but it does validate so many of us who feel a strong spiritual connection to Michael's death and who have been almost uncontrollably drawn to this site--those of us who liked his music but were never "fans" so to speak. This is one of those spiritual moments when it's almost too much knowledge to attempt to absorb let alone understand.

    Serenity- thanks so much.
  • jenwren20jenwren20 Posts: 282
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    OMG!! That Video blew my socks off!!!

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  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    Rita Hayworth, your you have described exactly like we feel many persons <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
  • DancerDancer Posts: 1,225
    This video is amazing...
  • I Don't know how I missed this video anyway I'm glad i found it!!!! <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> This just confirms for me what I believed all along and that is that MJ is not just any normal man...he is sent to us from God....I truely believe that. Thank you Seeclues and Serenity..not only am I a big fan of Michael but also a BIG fan of you guys too. Thank you both for all your hard work and your knowledge...I have huge faith, but I could never come close to finding the things you guys are finding....although I could give you a low down on all the movies I believe Micheal has influenced...because he knows that reaching us through the same medium that has sedated our minds is how to reach us!!!!! Thanks again...wish someone would seriously look it the clues in alot of movies....its a great adventure!!!
  • There are two interesting lines in "Cry" - which I have to admit, cannot understand...

    [Verse 1]
    Somebody shakes when the wind blows
    Somebody's missing a friend, hold on
    Somebody's lacking a hero
    And they have not a clue
    When it's all gonna end

    [Verse 2]
    Stories buried and untold
    Someone is hiding the truth, hold on
    When will this mystery unfold
    And will the sun ever shine
    In the blind man's eyes when he cries?

    [Chorus:]
    You can change the world (I can't do it by myself)
    You can touch the sky (Gonna take somebody's help)
    You're the chosen one (I'm gonna need some kind of sign)
    If we all cry at the same time tonight

    [Verse 3]
    People laugh when they're feelin sad
    Someone is taking a life, hold on
    Respect to believe in your dreams
    Tell me where were you
    when your children cried last night?

    [Verse 4]
    Faces fill with madness
    Miracles unheard of, hold on
    Faith is found in the winds
    All we have to do
    Is reach for the truth

    [Chorus]

    And when that flag blows
    There'll be no more wars
    And when all calls
    I will answer all your prayers


    [Chorus x3]

    Change the world


    Michael IS the chosen one <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: -->

    HE will answer all our prayers <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: -->


    Sorry if I misunderstand... but is he saying that he is someone like Jesus or he is God-like?

    I find Michael's last supper version unhealthy... Honestly, I don't like it.


    Michael is a great human, but for me he is only a human.
  • AndreaAndrea Posts: 3,787
    Please watch this video by Seeing Clues, it reveals some very interesting things.

    [youtube:i42un9ox]

    Huh. Now the improper English and grammar in so many of the TMZ headlines and articles makes sense. Everyday I realize more and more how complex and how deep this hoax is and it leaves me feeling absolutely amazed and humbled.
  • Please watch this video by Seeing Clues, it reveals some very interesting things.

    [youtube:80y0qx7d]

    Huh. Now the improper English and grammar in so many of the TMZ headlines and articles makes sense. Everyday I realize more and more how complex and how deep this hoax is and it leaves me feeling absolutely amazed and humbled.

    HOLY CRAP!!! This is nuts. I think this might be one of the most convincing videos that this is all planned. Seriously! Wow.
  • Watched this video this morning. Man. I must say, this discovery is something! <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o -->
  • 2good2btrue2good2btrue Posts: 4,210
    Thanks for all your hard work Serenity...and that video blew me away....

    I kinda wanted it to continue...I wonder if this pattern continued...
  • 2good2btrue2good2btrue Posts: 4,210
    Not being negative, but I tried to see if the video "seeingclues" made, actually fits in with the rest of TMZ's random articles.... There has been many since this video was made.

    I'm not to sure which Gospel the verses were taken from...
  • SarahliSarahli Posts: 4,265
    There are two interesting lines in "Cry" - which I have to admit, cannot understand...

    [Verse 1]
    Somebody shakes when the wind blows
    Somebody's missing a friend, hold on
    Somebody's lacking a hero
    And they have not a clue
    When it's all gonna end

    [Verse 2]
    Stories buried and untold
    Someone is hiding the truth, hold on
    When will this mystery unfold
    And will the sun ever shine
    In the blind man's eyes when he cries?

    [Chorus:]
    You can change the world (I can't do it by myself)
    You can touch the sky (Gonna take somebody's help)
    You're the chosen one (I'm gonna need some kind of sign)
    If we all cry at the same time tonight

    [Verse 3]
    People laugh when they're feelin sad
    Someone is taking a life, hold on
    Respect to believe in your dreams
    Tell me where were you
    when your children cried last night?

    [Verse 4]
    Faces fill with madness
    Miracles unheard of, hold on
    Faith is found in the winds
    All we have to do
    Is reach for the truth

    [Chorus]

    And when that flag blows
    There'll be no more wars
    And when all calls
    I will answer all your prayers


    [Chorus x3]

    Change the world


    Michael IS the chosen one <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: -->

    HE will answer all our prayers <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: -->


    Sorry if I misunderstand... but is he saying that he is someone like Jesus or he is God-like?

    I find Michael's last supper version unhealthy... Honestly, I don't like it.


    Michael is a great human, but for me he is only a human.

    I understand your concern and this sentence 'I will answer all your prayers" also "disturbed" me since some days now and with this talk about the messiah I cannot sleep at night. Being the chosen one doesn't disturbs me but for answering the prayers I had to reflect on it and it may mean that Michael will come back and then answer what we asked for from him as a human being and hoax related; "I'm only human" he also sang, so I really don't think that Michael is implying that he is god-like, maybe Jesus like but not Jesus himself, a kind of messenger chosen by God to warn us on the upcoming events...Well looks like I interpreted that sentence the way it fits my belief <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> now I don't know what was Michael's intent when he sang that. Michael, please? <!-- s:cry: -->:cry:<!-- s:cry: --> <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
  • Michael actually didn't write 'Cry'. R Kelly did.
    Michael said thousand times that he was NOT Jesus, but he was TRYING to be like him and make God proud, that's all. No need to worry Sarahli. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
  • SarahliSarahli Posts: 4,265
    Michael actually didn't write 'Cry'. R Kelly did.
    Michael said thousand times that he was NOT Jesus, but he was TRYING to be like him and make God proud, that's all. No need to worry Sarahli. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->

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  • I personally believe we are all chosen. But it's our choice whether we do anything about it. Michael is just doing what he knows he was put here to do. Not many people can say that unfortunately. If you believe in God and you believe God is Love and we are all One... then I think it's okay to believe that Michael is performing miracles right now. By choice, and by faith. I don't think it's disrespectful to the bible or whatever religious book you hold as truth. This is an ultimate test of our faith, not just in Michael but in all our own personal spiritual beliefs. We have to mash up our beliefs, embrace them all, come TOGETHER, instead of letting them get in the way of believing what is right before our eyes. My opinion...
  • Michael actually didn't write 'Cry'. R Kelly did.
    Michael said thousand times that he was NOT Jesus, but he was TRYING to be like him and make God proud, that's all. No need to worry Sarahli. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->

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    Yes, R. Kelly wrote that, but Michael did sing it without changing those lines... I don't think it was a wise thing as people can misunderstand it...
    Anyway, it just came to my mind because of this thread.

    Otherwise I know that Michael was always very humble in his interviews when he talked about his great talent, saying that it's a gift from God. I love him for this. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->

    ps: I also don't understand why he liked to "wear" angel-wings... Doesn't look that humble to me to be honest. I mean I can believe that he only wanted to say with that that he tries to be like an angel or Jesus, tries to go on that path, but again, it can be misunderstood. For example, when an angel covers him with her wings in his Will You Be There video, that's something clear and beautiful, which cannot be misunderstood.
  • I agree with the 2 last posts.
  • Please watch this video by Seeing Clues, it reveals some very interesting things.

    [youtube:3dwnzpjh]

    Just: <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> !!!
  • SarahliSarahli Posts: 4,265
    Michael actually didn't write 'Cry'. R Kelly did.
    Michael said thousand times that he was NOT Jesus, but he was TRYING to be like him and make God proud, that's all. No need to worry Sarahli. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->

    <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
    Yes, R. Kelly wrote that, but Michael did sing it without changing those lines... I don't think it was a wise thing as people can misunderstand it...
    Anyway, it just came to my mind because of this thread.

    Otherwise I know that Michael was always very humble in his interviews when he talked about his great talent, saying that it's a gift from God. I love him for this. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->

    ps: I also don't understand why he liked to "wear" angel-wings... Doesn't look that humble to me to be honest. I mean I can believe that he only wanted to say with that that he tries to be like an angel or Jesus, tries to go on that path, but again, it can be misunderstood. For example, when an angel covers him with her wings in his Will You Be There video, that's something clear and beautiful, which cannot be misunderstood.

    I get what you're saying 'I don't sing it if I don't mean it'....well that's true he didn't change those lines but the interpretation is open to everyone so we cannot fix this unless Michael tells us exactly what he meant. It's difficult to know exactly what is in Michael's mind, obviously not possible, God knows best so I will just do that, put my trust in God. Michael says that he believes in God and wants to be like Jesus, closer to what purity of the soul is, maybe that the angel wings just represented what is pure not him being an angel. I presume. 'I'm only human' again.
  • I believe 'Cry' has something to do with the hoax.

    Stories buried and untold, someome is hiding the truth >> Obvious meaning
    Somebody is lacking a hero >> Talking about us, the fans, cause Michael is as a hero for us now that he faked his death to save the world.
    I will answer all prayers >> By coming back, may be he could have put wishes intead of prayers, to me he was telling us "All your dreams will come true, because I'll come back after a long time of hope and prayers"

    This is just my own interpretation, I'm still not sure about what he EXACTLY meant.
  • Michael actually didn't write 'Cry'. R Kelly did.
    Michael said thousand times that he was NOT Jesus, but he was TRYING to be like him and make God proud, that's all. No need to worry Sarahli. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->

    <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
    Yes, R. Kelly wrote that, but Michael did sing it without changing those lines... I don't think it was a wise thing as people can misunderstand it...
    Anyway, it just came to my mind because of this thread.

    Otherwise I know that Michael was always very humble in his interviews when he talked about his great talent, saying that it's a gift from God. I love him for this. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->

    ps: I also don't understand why he liked to "wear" angel-wings... Doesn't look that humble to me to be honest. I mean I can believe that he only wanted to say with that that he tries to be like an angel or Jesus, tries to go on that path, but again, it can be misunderstood. For example, when an angel covers him with her wings in his Will You Be There video, that's something clear and beautiful, which cannot be misunderstood.

    I get what you're saying 'I don't sing it if I don't mean it'....well that's true he didn't change those lines but the interpretation is open to everyone so we cannot fix this unless Michael tells us exactly what he meant. It's difficult to know exactly what is in Michael's mind, obviously not possible, God knows best so I will just do that, put my trust in God. Michael says that he believes in God and wants to be like Jesus, closer to what purity of the soul is, maybe that the angel wings just represented what is pure not him being an angel. I presume. 'I'm only human' again.
    I absolutely agree with you. With the line "I'm only human" as well <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
    Basically I'm only worried that with this song and angel wings he gives an easy reason to his enemies to attack him - like with the History Teaser video. They said he was using anti-semite symbols in that video. Michael answered: he is not anti-semite, it's art.
    Well, almost all artists can be misunderstood ("what did the poet wanted to say with that?" <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> ) I know that, but Michael needs to be careful - unfortunately...
  • becbec Posts: 6,387
    Not being negative, but I tried to see if the video "seeingclues" made, actually fits in with the rest of TMZ's random articles.... There has been many since this video was made.

    I'm not to sure which Gospel the verses were taken from...


    There are many many many to chose from.

    Let's remain analytical, look beyond the surface for the whole story, and think for ourselves.

    Just because the clue is packaged in a user friendly wrapper doesn't make it legitimate.
  • There are two interesting lines in "Cry" - which I have to admit, cannot understand...

    [Verse 1]
    Somebody shakes when the wind blows
    Somebody's missing a friend, hold on
    Somebody's lacking a hero
    And they have not a clue
    When it's all gonna end

    [Verse 2]
    Stories buried and untold
    Someone is hiding the truth, hold on
    When will this mystery unfold
    And will the sun ever shine
    In the blind man's eyes when he cries?

    [Chorus:]
    You can change the world (I can't do it by myself)
    You can touch the sky (Gonna take somebody's help)
    You're the chosen one (I'm gonna need some kind of sign)
    If we all cry at the same time tonight

    [Verse 3]
    People laugh when they're feelin sad
    Someone is taking a life, hold on
    Respect to believe in your dreams
    Tell me where were you
    when your children cried last night?

    [Verse 4]
    Faces fill with madness
    Miracles unheard of, hold on
    Faith is found in the winds
    All we have to do
    Is reach for the truth

    [Chorus]

    And when that flag blows
    There'll be no more wars
    And when all calls
    I will answer all your prayers


    [Chorus x3]

    Change the world


    Michael IS the chosen one <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: -->

    HE will answer all our prayers <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: -->


    Sorry if I misunderstand... but is he saying that he is someone like Jesus or he is God-like?

    I find Michael's last supper version unhealthy... Honestly, I don't like it.


    Michael is a great human, but for me he is only a human.

    I understand your concern and this sentence 'I will answer all your prayers" also "disturbed" me since some days now and with this talk about the messiah I cannot sleep at night. Being the chosen one doesn't disturbs me but for answering the prayers I had to reflect on it and it may mean that Michael will come back and then answer what we asked for from him as a human being and hoax related; "I'm only human" he also sang, so I really don't think that Michael is implying that he is god-like, maybe Jesus like but not Jesus himself, a kind of messenger chosen by God to warn us on the upcoming events...Well looks like I interpreted that sentence the way it fits my belief <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> now I don't know what was Michael's intent when he sang that. Michael, please? <!-- s:cry: -->:cry:<!-- s:cry: --> <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->


    I would like to address your concern regarding Michael's version of The Last Supper.

    According to the quote below there are "Extremely Famous Historical People" sitting at the table with Michael. Now in the quote they state Michael is playing the role of Jesus.
    And others have stated that as well here on the thread.

    But, my interpretation is that Michael is sitting with a group of genius', innovative, first of their kind, out of the box thinkers, and seen maybe as odd or strange.

    These are men that Michael obviously admires and probably studied. As they are greats.
    I don't see this painting as Michael trying to be Jesus or saying he is, and besides has anyone ever heard him say that is what he meant by this painting?

    Artist Nate Giorgio signed a deal in 1985 with Michael Jackson to do 50 paintings of him. That would be used for private and commercial reasons. This version of the Last Supper hung over Jacko's bed at Neverland. Michael as Jesus and 8 extremely famous historical people: Abraham Lincoln, John F. Kennedy, Thomas Edison, Albert Einstein, Walt Disney, Charlie Chaplin, Elvis Presley and Little Richard. Against tradition only 9 people are there.

    Let's study these greats also.

    1: <!-- m -->http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Lincoln<!-- m -->
    Abraham Lincoln (February 12, 1809 – April 15, 1865) served as the 16th President of the United States from March 1861 until his assassination in April 1865. He successfully led the country through its greatest internal crisis, the American Civil War, preserving the Union, ending slavery, and rededicating the nation to nationalism, equal rights, liberty and democracy. Reared in a poor family on the western frontier, he was mostly self-educated and became a country lawyer, an Illinois state legislator, and a one-term member of the United States House of Representatives, but failed in two attempts at a seat in the United States Senate. He was an affectionate, though often absent, husband, and father of four children.

    John F. Kennedy
    2: <!-- m -->http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._Kennedy<!-- m -->

    3: <!-- m -->http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Edison<!-- m -->
    Thomas Alva Edison (February 11, 1847 – October 18, 1931) was an American inventor, scientist, and businessman who developed many devices that greatly influenced life around the world, including the phonograph, the motion picture camera, and a long-lasting, practical electric light bulb.

    4: <!-- m -->http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein<!-- m -->
    Albert Einstein: 14 March 1879 – 18 April 1955) was a theoretical physicist, philosopher and author who is widely regarded as one of the most influential and best known scientists and intellectuals of all time.

    5: <!-- m -->http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walt_Disney<!-- m -->
    Walter Elias "Walt" Disney (December 5, 1901 – December 15, 1966) was an American film producer, director, screenwriter, voice actor, animator, entrepreneur, entertainer, international icon, and philanthropist.

    6: <!-- m -->http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Chaplin<!-- m -->
    Sir Charles Spencer "Charlie" Chaplin, KBE (16 April 1889 – 25 December 1977) was an English comic actor and film director of the silent film era. He became one of the best-known film stars in the world before the end of the First World War. Chaplin used mime, slapstick and other visual comedy routines, and continued well into the era of the talkies, though his films decreased in frequency from the end of the 1920s. His most famous role was that of The Tramp, which he first played in the Keystone comedy Kid Auto Races at Venice in 1914


    7: <!-- m -->http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elvis_Presly<!-- m -->
    The forum is filled with Elvis/ Mike parallels...

    8: <!-- m -->http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Richard<!-- m -->
    Richard Wayne Penniman (born December 5, 1932), known by the stage name Little Richard, is an American singer, songwriter, pianist, bandleader and recording artist, considered key in the transition from rhythm and blues to rock and roll in the 1950s. The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame web site entry on Penniman states that:

    "He claims to be “the architect of rock and roll,” and history would seem to bear out Little Richard’s boast. More than any other performer - save, perhaps, Elvis Presley, Little Richard blew the lid off the Fifties, laying the foundation for rock and roll with his explosive music and charismatic persona. On record, he made spine-tingling rock and roll. His frantically charged piano playing and raspy, shouted vocals on such classics as "Tutti Frutti", "Long Tall Sally" and "Good Golly, Miss Molly" defined the dynamic sound of rock and roll."


    Now I know I have heard Michael say in his speech that most dancing style and singing style came from Black artists, but they don't get the recognition they deserve instead it goes to the White artists.

    So including Little Richard in his painting makes sense. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->

    Now to address the song Cry and the lyrics.
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    Don't read to much into it, it is simple and non threatening.
    Michael needed a sign from God to know if he was The Chosen One to carry out a mission of warning the world of ends times.

    He is our Hero. Think about what he has done. He laid down his life on June 25 2009 for us to be awakened to TRUTHS and lies that have been plaging us for a LONG TIME.

    He has sacrificed his life for us.
    Thank You Michael.

    Maybe someone somewhere was asking that in a prayer and so he has answered that prayer for that person.

    I can answer my child's prayer when she needs something in her life.
    She just has to make it known and her prayer will be answered.

    Peace
  • SarahliSarahli Posts: 4,265
    Michael actually didn't write 'Cry'. R Kelly did.
    Michael said thousand times that he was NOT Jesus, but he was TRYING to be like him and make God proud, that's all. No need to worry Sarahli. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->

    <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
    Yes, R. Kelly wrote that, but Michael did sing it without changing those lines... I don't think it was a wise thing as people can misunderstand it...
    Anyway, it just came to my mind because of this thread.

    Otherwise I know that Michael was always very humble in his interviews when he talked about his great talent, saying that it's a gift from God. I love him for this. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->

    ps: I also don't understand why he liked to "wear" angel-wings... Doesn't look that humble to me to be honest. I mean I can believe that he only wanted to say with that that he tries to be like an angel or Jesus, tries to go on that path, but again, it can be misunderstood. For example, when an angel covers him with her wings in his Will You Be There video, that's something clear and beautiful, which cannot be misunderstood.

    I get what you're saying 'I don't sing it if I don't mean it'....well that's true he didn't change those lines but the interpretation is open to everyone so we cannot fix this unless Michael tells us exactly what he meant. It's difficult to know exactly what is in Michael's mind, obviously not possible, God knows best so I will just do that, put my trust in God. Michael says that he believes in God and wants to be like Jesus, closer to what purity of the soul is, maybe that the angel wings just represented what is pure not him being an angel. I presume. 'I'm only human' again.
    I absolutely agree with you. With the line "I'm only human" as well <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
    Basically I'm only worried that with this song and angel wings he gives an easy reason to his enemies to attack him - like with the History Teaser video. They said he was using anti-semite symbols in that video. Michael answered: he is not anti-semite, it's art.
    Well, almost all artists can be misunderstood ("what did the poet wanted to say with that?" <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> ) I know that, but Michael needs to be careful - unfortunately...

    <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> I wanted to add and your answer triggered that thought that the enemy will find any way to bring you down and I think that this is what happened with Michael, they tried hard. Therefore I believe that whatever Michael would have done they would have found a way to discredit/critize/diminish/twist his work, his words, and this is part of the reason why some people have a wrong appreciation of whom Michael really is. The way the enemy convey his message is through the media. They have done so many damages already. So in order to avoid that, did Michael had to be careful all the time with every single thing that he did/say? Did he had to tell himself "what will the haters say?". This makes me think of what they've done to him "because" of his love for the children. TWICE. An innocent and pure thing has been turned into hell. Does he had to avoid to be publicly with children because of what people would have said for example? No matter if he was innocent? The thought of it just makes me sick. This is an example of what I think cannot prevent the enemy to attack you, by preventing yourself from doing certain things just because of that, you give them the victory. I know that compared to angel wings it's maybe too much...or maybe not after all, maybe I'm off-topic so excuse me <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> . But hopefully Michael is one person who stands firm with his principals and beliefs "I'm a still remain the same. I'm unbreakable".

    p.s.: when I use the past tense it's because Michael is momentarily out of sight.
  • Please watch this video by Seeing Clues, it reveals some very interesting things.

    [youtube:2k4qubqa]

    I am agreeing with you on this. Seeing Clues has done a great job putting the pieces together in video format.

    Here is my 5 cents worth of opinion and also a few others from this link below:

    <!-- l -->viewtopic.php?f=21&t=12256<!-- l -->

    These are my qouted words from that thread. Seriously read the scripture and while doing so visual this "hoax" in mind and apply the words to the "hoax" and see how it is mirroring what Jesus said to his apostles.
    I posted the whole Sermon on the Mount on TS update 6 and when I read it I see almost everything that has been happening in this ”hoax” from the moment of the Memorial up to the anniversary starting to come to pass, this sermon starts to take on a whole nother meaning for me when I see what is happening in the fan community and this “hoax”

    Im_convincedmjalive wrote:
    Matthew 24:1-34 (Amplified Bible)

    Matthew 24

    1 JESUS DEPARTED from the temple area and was going on His way when His disciples came up to Him to call His attention to the buildings of the temple and point them out to Him.

    2 But He answered them, Do you see all these? Truly I tell you, there will not be left here one stone upon another that will not be thrown down.

    3 While He was seated on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately and said, Tell us, when will this take place, and what will be the sign of Your coming and of the end (the completion, the consummation) of the age?

    4 Jesus answered them, Be careful that no one misleads you [deceiving you and leading you into error].

    5 For many will come in (on the strength of) My name [appropriating the name which belongs to Me], saying, I am the Christ (the Messiah), and they will lead many astray.

    6 And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars; see that you are not frightened or troubled, for this must take place, but the end is not yet.

    7 For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be famines and earthquakes in place after place;

    8 All this is but the beginning [the early pains] of the birth pangs [of the intolerable anguish].

    9 Then they will hand you over to suffer affliction and tribulation and put you to death, and you will be hated by all nations for My name's sake.

    10 And then many will be offended and repelled and will begin to distrust and desert [Him Whom they ought to trust and obey] and will stumble and fall away and betray one another and pursue one another with hatred.

    11 And many false prophets will rise up and deceive and lead many into error.

    12 And the love of the great body of people will grow cold because of the multiplied lawlessness and iniquity,

    13 But he who endures to the end will be saved.

    14 And this good news of the kingdom (the Gospel) will be preached throughout the whole world as a testimony to all the nations, and then will come the end.

    15 So when you see the appalling sacrilege [the abomination that astonishes and makes desolate], spoken of by the prophet Daniel, standing in the Holy Place--let the reader take notice and ponder and consider and heed [this]

    16 Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains;

    17 Let him who is on the housetop not come down and go into the house to take anything;

    18 And let him who is in the field not turn back to get his overcoat.

    19 And alas for the women who are pregnant and for those who have nursing babies in those days!

    20 Pray that your flight may not be in winter or on a Sabbath.

    21 For then there will be great tribulation (affliction, distress, and oppression) such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now--no, and never will be [again].

    22 And if those days had not been shortened, no human being would endure and survive, but for the sake of the elect (God's chosen ones) those days will be shortened.

    23 If anyone says to you then, Behold, here is the Christ (the Messiah)! or, There He is!--do not believe it.

    24 For false Christs and false prophets will arise, and they will show great signs and wonders so as to deceive and lead astray, if possible, even the elect (God's chosen ones).

    25 See, I have warned you beforehand.

    26 So if they say to you, Behold, He is in the wilderness (desert)--do not go out there; if they tell you, Behold, He is in the secret places or inner rooms--do not believe it.

    27 For just as the lightning flashes from the east and shines and is seen as far as the west, so will the coming of the Son of Man be.

    28 Wherever there is a fallen body (a corpse), there the vultures (or eagles) will flock together.

    29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not shed its light, and the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.

    30 Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn and beat their breasts and lament in anguish, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory [in brilliancy and splendor].

    31 And He will send out His angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather His elect (His chosen ones) from the four winds, [even] from one end of the universe to the other.

    32 From the fig tree learn this lesson: as soon as its young shoots become soft and tender and it puts out its leaves, you know of a surety that summer is near.

    33 So also when you see these signs, all taken together, coming to pass, you may know of a surety that He is near, at the very doors.

    34 Truly I tell you, this generation (the whole multitude of people living at the same time, in a definite, given period) will not pass away till all these things taken together take place.



    If you can review back over some of the article headlines from TMZ you will see the references to the Sermon.
    It is all related to what you are discovering and the tweets, scripture in TS posts, redirects and even TMZ articles have been giving clues to the facts of what you are discovering
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    Peace
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