I've also noticed to my <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> that all the TIAI videos & updates have been wiped from YouTube and this forum.
In fact, youtube deleted our entire channel around 5AM today due to a third time violation of copyrights. This time it was a claim from Web Sheriff, concerning the video "Michael Jackson - Gangsta (No friend of mine)".
WOW.. THAT IS STRANGE!!!!!!!!!, why not only that video, why the entire channel???
Third violation. I wonder who that Web Sheriff is, because that video was up for months and months.
I think u should make a new account. and post all those videos again. not that gangsta video, but those Hoax videos were great. Maybe they wanted those videos removed, and that Web Sheriff used the gangsta video for a reason to do...
I second this. Those videos are to valuable to loose. <!-- s:( -->:(<!-- s:( -->
Already uploading them again to my other account, but it might take a few days <!-- s --><!-- s -->
Good News.
The absence of TS Update videos has really done a number on my YouTube Channel! <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
Yours is the second channel this web sheriff has deleted. The other channel was using some sort of "sony" video editing program and this sheriff deleted the entire channel & video catalog of the uploader. This has left me with major holes in my playlists that I wont be able to fill till after the Holidays... I just barely caught up from Thanksgiving! <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
Which account are you referring to? The YT link at the bottom of your post sig? I'll make sure to subscribe so I don't loose you. <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) -->
Here is something you should read, when you ask yourself who TS ( Timothy D. Simkin aka S.T.U.D.Y. ) is. In his newsletter from 2002 you can clearly see that he gravitates toward numerology. He also describes himself and what he feels his avocation is.
This is interesting. It's almost the same style of writing and outlining as TS's. I noticed when TS first started to post that "he/she" uses an excessive amount of "commas" in his phrasing. The excessive use of "commas" is a style that hasn't been used in the American public school system for several years. It isn't wrong...but not commonly used now. He obviously takes great care in his grammar and writing style. Very similar to TS. Just an observation....no conclusion.
Here is something you should read, when you ask yourself who TS ( Timothy D. Simkin aka S.T.U.D.Y. ) is. In his newsletter from 2002 you can clearly see that he gravitates toward numerology. He also describes himself and what he feels his avocation is.
We discussed about this issue several months ago. Maybe you should read that topic. And TS wrote about that page in one of his updates. No need to bring old stories here.
I agree with Souza ... respect is fundamental and often slips down out of habit, for a joke... for not read well and carefully ...for not to listen ....for protagonism, for cause, for have fun etc.
The long post of TS are precious mines from which to extract the minerals a after another little by little. Refute or to argue opinions that's fine, but not debunk. <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
I do not think there are some Totem or Myths in this forum that from time to time should be demolished.
We are here to investigate, exchange ideas on suspected hoax designed and questioning is fine if people feel the need to doubt certain things.
Everyone has their head to think and decide, there is no mythologizing of any person or at least should not exist ....
<!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
Here is something you should read, when you ask yourself who TS ( Timothy D. Simkin aka S.T.U.D.Y. ) is. In his newsletter from 2002 you can clearly see that he gravitates toward numerology. He also describes himself and what he feels his avocation is.
We discussed about this issue several months ago. Maybe you should read that topic. And TS wrote about that page in one of his updates. No need to bring old stories here.
I do not know the topic you suggest. Yet I found this article about S.T.U.D.Y., that I definetely did not know of. So, only for those interested in old stories here is a link:
And here is other information from the thread you reference on MJHD. SD, I hope you don't mind me linking to your thorough research, please let us know if any of the info has changed since you first posted this on the other site:
This pdf of a newsletter and is an introduction to techniques to use when undertaking Bible study. To learn to understand bible scripture on your own without having someone else tell you what the scripture means.
xxxx wrote:
<!-- m -->http://www.s-t-u-d-y.org/2Response-Able.pdf<!-- m -->
Are You: Response-Able? In other words, are you “ready always [able] to give an answer [response]” to
questions about what you believe? Even in secular education, a primary method of testing someone’s knowledge and understanding is through questions (and answers).
This pdf is explaining how to answers questions effectively about your beliefs regarding what you have learned through Bible study. How to effectively convey your beliefs to others, how to educate others of the meanings you have discovered through your study of the scriptures in the Bible.
xxxx wrote:
<!-- m -->http://www.s-t-u-d-y.org/3FirstPrinciples.PDF<!-- m -->
There’s little value examining specific truths, especially areas where there is a difference of belief—until we understand the basic principles that apply to all truths, and the basic principles involved in resolving differences of belief.
This pdf is again about addressing different beliefs, what is truth for each individual etc. All of this has to do with bible study and conveying what you have learned from your individual study to others.
xxxx wrote:
<!-- m -->http://www.s-t-u-d-y.org/4Understanding.PDF<!-- m -->
Especially from those who are teachers, the “not enough time” plea should never be heard! Are they too
busy teaching the “truth” (so-called), to find out if the teaching really is truth?!? As long as a teacher doesn’t
have enough time to answer the questions on a certain subject, he also doesn’t have enough time to teach that
subject! This principle holds true even in secular teachings—how much more so, in religious teachings!
This pdf is addressing issues of teaching about the Bible and conflicts one may have about accepting money for services etc. After reading these newsletters so far I am getting the feeling that Tim Simkins was teaching people how to effectively study the Bible and educate others. Teaching people how to be "Ministers", this does not seem to be a church itself or a cult but an educational tool to educate others about Bible study and become teachers/ministers.
xxxx wrote:
<!-- m -->http://www.s-t-u-d-y.org/5Wed&Web.PDF<!-- m -->
This final newsletter pdf is about how to create wedding videos and the advantages of having a wedding ceremony over getting married in a civil court. This again suggests that these newsletters are being directed towards Ministers and in an effort to help them teach about the bible and subjects important when one is educating a congregation.
I also went to the Response-Able website which is linked on the s-t-u-d-y.org page.
<!-- m -->http://www.response-able.net/<!-- m -->
This site is under construction but there is an essay written here.
<!-- m -->http://www.response-able.net/Response.htm<!-- m -->
This essay is again the information from the newsletters plus a further elaboration on the subjects.
Also there has been no further newsletters since 2005 and the above website has not been completed after having been originally created during the time these newsletters were posted. It appears that this idea was not successful has been abandoned or something.
My impression from this is that Tim Simkins is promoting an Educational System, tools to help understand the bible and transmit what you believe to others. He also wanted to link up churches that were using this system, no matter the denomination of the congregation, as means of improving and working out unity issues.
I am not really understanding why everyone sees this as a cult. There is also no mention of NWO, Illuminati, conspiracy theories, Michael Jackson or anything else that indicates that this is Tim Simkins agenda at all and that he may be responsible for TIAI.
TS wrote:
Quoted from Update #6:
For your information: I am familiar with the STUDY website. Does this mean that it is me, my website? Maybe; or maybe it’s someone I know; or maybe that website was used as a decoy. Regardless of which is the actual case: you are being tested, to see whether you can unbiasedly assess evidence based upon the evidence itself—and not on who the evidence came from, or who you think it came from, etc.
Many are failing the test, and they didn’t even know that they were being tested. In fact, there is no better way to test people, than to do it without their knowledge; then people act natural, and don’t try to make themselves into something artificial. Does it make any difference, whether you pass or fail this test? Good question; but I won’t give the answer to that right now.
However, I will give another hint on my identity, and the source for my information: so far, I have only seen one discussion that was correct. Should Jacksons tweet about This Is Also It, as some have suggested, so that there will be no doubt? Actually, I already addressed this very question in Update #2 {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=3965}. See also Update 5a, section 5-2, comment about 5-5 redirect: a very similar tweet that was also from Jermaine {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=9726}.
What I see here is that TS freely admits that they are aware of this website. It seems to me that they have read the site and are utilizing the same techniques that Tim Simkins has written about but not to educate us on the bible but instead the Hoax. This does not mean that TS is Tim Simkins, it simply means that they read the information on how to approach educating others on a subject and they liked it and are using it to transmit the Hoax information to us.
I do not see how any of what I have read on these web pages has proven that TS is fake. This thread has not debunked them in the least.
Also let us not forget that Marlon Jackson wrote STUDY peace in the funeral book.
And finally, has anyone even tried to contact Tim Simkins and asked him about the S.T.U.D.Y. program and if he has any involvement in TIAI, if they are so skeptical about the "TS" on MJHDI?
Isn't it possible that the TS on this forum chose the initials "TS" because they were utilizing Mr. Simkins ideas about education etc in regards to informing us about the hoax? I mean I use Serenitys Dream or SD on this forum as my name, yet it has nothing to do with my actual name.Last edited by Serenitys_Dream on Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:08 pm, edited 1 time in total. Serenitys_Dream
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by Anna.K » Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:07 pm
Serenitys_Dream wrote:
Okay so I went to Tim Simkins website at <!-- m -->http://www.s-t-u-d-y.org/<!-- m -->
and I have read the links there.
This pdf of a newsletter and is an introduction to techniques to use when undertaking Bible study. To learn to understand bible scripture on your own without having someone else tell you what the scripture means.
xxxx wrote:
<!-- m -->http://www.s-t-u-d-y.org/2Response-Able.pdf<!-- m -->
Are You: Response-Able? In other words, are you “ready always [able] to give an answer [response]” to
questions about what you believe? Even in secular education, a primary method of testing someone’s knowledge and understanding is through questions (and answers).
This pdf is explaining how to answers questions effectively about your beliefs regarding what you have learned through Bible study. How to effectively convey your beliefs to others, how to educate others of the meanings you have discovered through your study of the scriptures in the Bible.
xxxx wrote:
<!-- m -->http://www.s-t-u-d-y.org/3FirstPrinciples.PDF<!-- m -->
There’s little value examining specific truths, especially areas where there is a difference of belief—until we understand the basic principles that apply to all truths, and the basic principles involved in resolving differences of belief.
This pdf is again about addressing different beliefs, what is truth for each individual etc. All of this has to do with bible study and conveying what you have learned from your individual study to others.
xxxx wrote:
<!-- m -->http://www.s-t-u-d-y.org/4Understanding.PDF<!-- m -->
Especially from those who are teachers, the “not enough time” plea should never be heard! Are they too
busy teaching the “truth” (so-called), to find out if the teaching really is truth?!? As long as a teacher doesn’t
have enough time to answer the questions on a certain subject, he also doesn’t have enough time to teach that
subject! This principle holds true even in secular teachings—how much more so, in religious teachings!
This pdf is addressing issues of teaching about the Bible and conflicts one may have about accepting money for services etc. After reading these newsletters so far I am getting the feeling that Tim Simkins was teaching people how to effectively study the Bible and educate others. Teaching people how to be "Ministers", this does not seem to be a church itself or a cult but an educational tool to educate others about Bible study and become teachers/ministers.
xxxx wrote:
<!-- m -->http://www.s-t-u-d-y.org/5Wed&Web.PDF<!-- m -->
This final newsletter pdf is about how to create wedding videos and the advantages of having a wedding ceremony over getting married in a civil court. This again suggests that these newsletters are being directed towards Ministers and in an effort to help them teach about the bible and subjects important when one is educating a congregation.
I also went to the Response-Able website which is linked on the s-t-u-d-y.org page.
<!-- m -->http://www.response-able.net/<!-- m -->
This site is under construction but there is an essay written here.
<!-- m -->http://www.response-able.net/Response.htm<!-- m -->
This essay is again the information from the newsletters plus a further elaboration on the subjects.
Also there has been no further newsletters since 2005 and the above website has not been completed after having been originally created during the time these newsletters were posted. It appears that this idea was not successful has been abandoned or something.
My impression from this is that Tim Simkins is promoting an Educational System, tools to help understand the bible and transmit what you believe to others. He also wanted to link up churches that were using this system, no matter the denomination of the congregation, as means of improving and working out unity issues.
I am not really understanding why everyone sees this as a cult. there is also no mention of NWO, Illuminati, conspiracy theories, Michael Jackson or anything else that indicates that this is Tim Simkins agenda at all and that he may be responsible for TIAI.
TS wrote:
Quoted from Update #6:
For your information: I am familiar with the STUDY website. Does this mean that it is me, my website? Maybe; or maybe it’s someone I know; or maybe that website was used as a decoy. Regardless of which is the actual case: you are being tested, to see whether you can unbiasedly assess evidence based upon the evidence itself—and not on who the evidence came from, or who you think it came from, etc.
Many are failing the test, and they didn’t even know that they were being tested. In fact, there is no better way to test people, than to do it without their knowledge; then people act natural, and don’t try to make themselves into something artificial. Does it make any difference, whether you pass or fail this test? Good question; but I won’t give the answer to that right now.
However, I will give another hint on my identity, and the source for my information: so far, I have only seen one discussion that was correct. Should Jacksons tweet about This Is Also It, as some have suggested, so that there will be no doubt? Actually, I already addressed this very question in Update #2 {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=3965}. See also Update 5a, section 5-2, comment about 5-5 redirect: a very similar tweet that was also from Jermaine {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=9726}.
What I see here is that TS freely admits that they are aware of this website. It seems to me that they have read the site and are utilizing the same techniques that Tim Simkins has written about but not to educate us on the bible but instead the Hoax. This does not mean that TS is Tim Simkins, it simply means that they read the information on how to approach educating others on a subject and they liked it and are using it to transmit the Hoax information to us.
I do not see how any of what I have read on these web pages has proven that TS is fake. This thread has not debunked them in the least.
Also let us not forget that Marlon Jackson wrote STUDY peace in the funeral book.
And finally, has anyone even tried to contact Tim Simkins and asked him about the S.T.U.D.Y. program and if he has any involvement in TIAI, if they are so skeptical about the "TS" on MJHDI?
Isn't it possible that the TS on this forum chose the initials "TS" because they were utilizing Mr. Simkins ideas about education etc in regards to informing us about the hoax? I mean I use Serenitys Dream or SD on this forum as my name, yet it has nothing to do with my actual name.
The motto that both STUDY use (Tim Simkins and TIAI Study) is not Study Peace. It's Study To Understand Doctrines Yourself. Clearly, you have not read the page thoroughly
There's no sensation to compare with this
Suspended animation, a state of bliss
Can't keep my mind from the circling skies
Tongue-tied, twisted just an earthbound misfit
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by Serenitys_Dream » Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:14 pm
Anna.K wrote:
The motto that both STUDY use (Tim Simkins and TIAI Study) is not Study Peace. It's Study To Understand Doctrines Yourself. Clearly, you have not read the page thoroughly
Actually you clearly have not read my post. The first PDF I linked says exactly that.
xxxx wrote:
<!-- m -->http://www.s-t-u-d-y.org/1Introductory.pdf<!-- m -->
An introduction to S.T.U.D.Y - Study To Understand Doctrines Yourself
This pdf of a newsletter and is an introduction to techniques to use when undertaking Bible study. To learn to understand bible scripture on your own without having someone else tell you what the scripture means.
doc·trine n.
1. A principle or body of principles presented for acceptance or belief, as by a religious, political, scientific, or philosophic group; dogma.
2. A rule or principle of law, especially when established by precedent.
3. A statement of official government policy, especially in foreign affairs and military strategy.
4. Something taught; a teaching.
And Marlon Jackson did write "S.T.U.D.Y. peace" in the funeral book. This can be read two ways as in a clue to TS who at that time was using the screen name S.T.U.D.Y. and then "peace" as an ending to his message (goodbye sort of thing) or it could be a suggestion to utilize these educational tools, on the study.org site, in a quest for peace.Serenitys_Dream
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by Serenitys_Dream » Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:40 am
Jackson 5 : Man Of War Lyrics
Chorus:
Man of war
Don't go to war no more
Why don't you
Why don't you study peace
Man of war
Don't go to war no more
Study peace
Cause peace is what we need
You think your way
Is the best way for all
You don't know everything
You don't know it all
You got respect a man
For the way he feels
You can't make people do
Things against their will
[Chorus]
Just because your army
Gives you strength and might
Truth is gonna
win...wrong will
Never conquer right
Every man has the right to
Think and be free
You're like a spoiled brat
You want everything you see
You think you bombs
guns, and planes
Make you a big man
When you invade
Another man's land
Tryin' to make him be what
You want him be
Tryin' to make him do
What you want him to
Tryin' to make him say
What you want him to say
I know there's got to
Be a better way
You think your way
Is the best way for all
You don't know everything
You don't know it all
You got respect a man
For the way he feels
You can't make people do
Things against their will
Here is something you should read, when you ask yourself who TS ( Timothy D. Simkin aka S.T.U.D.Y. ) is. In his newsletter from 2002 you can clearly see that he gravitates toward numerology. He also describes himself and what he feels his avocation is.
We discussed about this issue several months ago. Maybe you should read that topic. And TS wrote about that page in one of his updates. No need to bring old stories here.
I do not know the topic you suggest.
Why not? I thought that you had been reading the forum for such a long time. How did you miss that one especially when it comes to TS? I can offer you to check out the section we created for the beginner hoaxers and you can ask the admins where you can find the topics. Almost all of us know about this topic as we had talked about the issue several months ago and there's still no need to bring old ones here, especially with specific purposes! http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewforum.php?f=102And this onehttp://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=14529
I was wondering if you could also share these on this part of the forum where we're talking about TS' old posts. I think that section would be better and more people would read these there.
And here is other information from the thread you reference on MJHD. SD, I hope you don't mind me linking to your thorough research, please let us know if any of the info has changed since you first posted this on the other site:
This pdf of a newsletter and is an introduction to techniques to use when undertaking Bible study. To learn to understand bible scripture on your own without having someone else tell you what the scripture means.
xxxx wrote:
<!-- m -->http://www.s-t-u-d-y.org/2Response-Able.pdf<!-- m -->
Are You: Response-Able? In other words, are you “ready always [able] to give an answer [response]” to
questions about what you believe? Even in secular education, a primary method of testing someone’s knowledge and understanding is through questions (and answers).
This pdf is explaining how to answers questions effectively about your beliefs regarding what you have learned through Bible study. How to effectively convey your beliefs to others, how to educate others of the meanings you have discovered through your study of the scriptures in the Bible.
xxxx wrote:
<!-- m -->http://www.s-t-u-d-y.org/3FirstPrinciples.PDF<!-- m -->
There’s little value examining specific truths, especially areas where there is a difference of belief—until we understand the basic principles that apply to all truths, and the basic principles involved in resolving differences of belief.
This pdf is again about addressing different beliefs, what is truth for each individual etc. All of this has to do with bible study and conveying what you have learned from your individual study to others.
xxxx wrote:
<!-- m -->http://www.s-t-u-d-y.org/4Understanding.PDF<!-- m -->
Especially from those who are teachers, the “not enough time” plea should never be heard! Are they too
busy teaching the “truth” (so-called), to find out if the teaching really is truth?!? As long as a teacher doesn’t
have enough time to answer the questions on a certain subject, he also doesn’t have enough time to teach that
subject! This principle holds true even in secular teachings—how much more so, in religious teachings!
This pdf is addressing issues of teaching about the Bible and conflicts one may have about accepting money for services etc. After reading these newsletters so far I am getting the feeling that Tim Simkins was teaching people how to effectively study the Bible and educate others. Teaching people how to be "Ministers", this does not seem to be a church itself or a cult but an educational tool to educate others about Bible study and become teachers/ministers.
xxxx wrote:
<!-- m -->http://www.s-t-u-d-y.org/5Wed&Web.PDF<!-- m -->
This final newsletter pdf is about how to create wedding videos and the advantages of having a wedding ceremony over getting married in a civil court. This again suggests that these newsletters are being directed towards Ministers and in an effort to help them teach about the bible and subjects important when one is educating a congregation.
I also went to the Response-Able website which is linked on the s-t-u-d-y.org page.
<!-- m -->http://www.response-able.net/<!-- m -->
This site is under construction but there is an essay written here.
<!-- m -->http://www.response-able.net/Response.htm<!-- m -->
This essay is again the information from the newsletters plus a further elaboration on the subjects.
Also there has been no further newsletters since 2005 and the above website has not been completed after having been originally created during the time these newsletters were posted. It appears that this idea was not successful has been abandoned or something.
My impression from this is that Tim Simkins is promoting an Educational System, tools to help understand the bible and transmit what you believe to others. He also wanted to link up churches that were using this system, no matter the denomination of the congregation, as means of improving and working out unity issues.
I am not really understanding why everyone sees this as a cult. There is also no mention of NWO, Illuminati, conspiracy theories, Michael Jackson or anything else that indicates that this is Tim Simkins agenda at all and that he may be responsible for TIAI.
TS wrote:
Quoted from Update #6:
For your information: I am familiar with the STUDY website. Does this mean that it is me, my website? Maybe; or maybe it’s someone I know; or maybe that website was used as a decoy. Regardless of which is the actual case: you are being tested, to see whether you can unbiasedly assess evidence based upon the evidence itself—and not on who the evidence came from, or who you think it came from, etc.
Many are failing the test, and they didn’t even know that they were being tested. In fact, there is no better way to test people, than to do it without their knowledge; then people act natural, and don’t try to make themselves into something artificial. Does it make any difference, whether you pass or fail this test? Good question; but I won’t give the answer to that right now.
However, I will give another hint on my identity, and the source for my information: so far, I have only seen one discussion that was correct. Should Jacksons tweet about This Is Also It, as some have suggested, so that there will be no doubt? Actually, I already addressed this very question in Update #2 {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=3965}. See also Update 5a, section 5-2, comment about 5-5 redirect: a very similar tweet that was also from Jermaine {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=9726}.
What I see here is that TS freely admits that they are aware of this website. It seems to me that they have read the site and are utilizing the same techniques that Tim Simkins has written about but not to educate us on the bible but instead the Hoax. This does not mean that TS is Tim Simkins, it simply means that they read the information on how to approach educating others on a subject and they liked it and are using it to transmit the Hoax information to us.
I do not see how any of what I have read on these web pages has proven that TS is fake. This thread has not debunked them in the least.
Also let us not forget that Marlon Jackson wrote STUDY peace in the funeral book.
And finally, has anyone even tried to contact Tim Simkins and asked him about the S.T.U.D.Y. program and if he has any involvement in TIAI, if they are so skeptical about the "TS" on MJHDI?
Isn't it possible that the TS on this forum chose the initials "TS" because they were utilizing Mr. Simkins ideas about education etc in regards to informing us about the hoax? I mean I use Serenitys Dream or SD on this forum as my name, yet it has nothing to do with my actual name.Last edited by Serenitys_Dream on Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:08 pm, edited 1 time in total. Serenitys_Dream
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by Anna.K » Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:07 pm
Serenitys_Dream wrote:
Okay so I went to Tim Simkins website at <!-- m -->http://www.s-t-u-d-y.org/<!-- m -->
and I have read the links there.
This pdf of a newsletter and is an introduction to techniques to use when undertaking Bible study. To learn to understand bible scripture on your own without having someone else tell you what the scripture means.
xxxx wrote:
<!-- m -->http://www.s-t-u-d-y.org/2Response-Able.pdf<!-- m -->
Are You: Response-Able? In other words, are you “ready always [able] to give an answer [response]” to
questions about what you believe? Even in secular education, a primary method of testing someone’s knowledge and understanding is through questions (and answers).
This pdf is explaining how to answers questions effectively about your beliefs regarding what you have learned through Bible study. How to effectively convey your beliefs to others, how to educate others of the meanings you have discovered through your study of the scriptures in the Bible.
xxxx wrote:
<!-- m -->http://www.s-t-u-d-y.org/3FirstPrinciples.PDF<!-- m -->
There’s little value examining specific truths, especially areas where there is a difference of belief—until we understand the basic principles that apply to all truths, and the basic principles involved in resolving differences of belief.
This pdf is again about addressing different beliefs, what is truth for each individual etc. All of this has to do with bible study and conveying what you have learned from your individual study to others.
xxxx wrote:
<!-- m -->http://www.s-t-u-d-y.org/4Understanding.PDF<!-- m -->
Especially from those who are teachers, the “not enough time” plea should never be heard! Are they too
busy teaching the “truth” (so-called), to find out if the teaching really is truth?!? As long as a teacher doesn’t
have enough time to answer the questions on a certain subject, he also doesn’t have enough time to teach that
subject! This principle holds true even in secular teachings—how much more so, in religious teachings!
This pdf is addressing issues of teaching about the Bible and conflicts one may have about accepting money for services etc. After reading these newsletters so far I am getting the feeling that Tim Simkins was teaching people how to effectively study the Bible and educate others. Teaching people how to be "Ministers", this does not seem to be a church itself or a cult but an educational tool to educate others about Bible study and become teachers/ministers.
xxxx wrote:
<!-- m -->http://www.s-t-u-d-y.org/5Wed&Web.PDF<!-- m -->
This final newsletter pdf is about how to create wedding videos and the advantages of having a wedding ceremony over getting married in a civil court. This again suggests that these newsletters are being directed towards Ministers and in an effort to help them teach about the bible and subjects important when one is educating a congregation.
I also went to the Response-Able website which is linked on the s-t-u-d-y.org page.
<!-- m -->http://www.response-able.net/<!-- m -->
This site is under construction but there is an essay written here.
<!-- m -->http://www.response-able.net/Response.htm<!-- m -->
This essay is again the information from the newsletters plus a further elaboration on the subjects.
Also there has been no further newsletters since 2005 and the above website has not been completed after having been originally created during the time these newsletters were posted. It appears that this idea was not successful has been abandoned or something.
My impression from this is that Tim Simkins is promoting an Educational System, tools to help understand the bible and transmit what you believe to others. He also wanted to link up churches that were using this system, no matter the denomination of the congregation, as means of improving and working out unity issues.
I am not really understanding why everyone sees this as a cult. there is also no mention of NWO, Illuminati, conspiracy theories, Michael Jackson or anything else that indicates that this is Tim Simkins agenda at all and that he may be responsible for TIAI.
TS wrote:
Quoted from Update #6:
For your information: I am familiar with the STUDY website. Does this mean that it is me, my website? Maybe; or maybe it’s someone I know; or maybe that website was used as a decoy. Regardless of which is the actual case: you are being tested, to see whether you can unbiasedly assess evidence based upon the evidence itself—and not on who the evidence came from, or who you think it came from, etc.
Many are failing the test, and they didn’t even know that they were being tested. In fact, there is no better way to test people, than to do it without their knowledge; then people act natural, and don’t try to make themselves into something artificial. Does it make any difference, whether you pass or fail this test? Good question; but I won’t give the answer to that right now.
However, I will give another hint on my identity, and the source for my information: so far, I have only seen one discussion that was correct. Should Jacksons tweet about This Is Also It, as some have suggested, so that there will be no doubt? Actually, I already addressed this very question in Update #2 {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=3965}. See also Update 5a, section 5-2, comment about 5-5 redirect: a very similar tweet that was also from Jermaine {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=9726}.
What I see here is that TS freely admits that they are aware of this website. It seems to me that they have read the site and are utilizing the same techniques that Tim Simkins has written about but not to educate us on the bible but instead the Hoax. This does not mean that TS is Tim Simkins, it simply means that they read the information on how to approach educating others on a subject and they liked it and are using it to transmit the Hoax information to us.
I do not see how any of what I have read on these web pages has proven that TS is fake. This thread has not debunked them in the least.
Also let us not forget that Marlon Jackson wrote STUDY peace in the funeral book.
And finally, has anyone even tried to contact Tim Simkins and asked him about the S.T.U.D.Y. program and if he has any involvement in TIAI, if they are so skeptical about the "TS" on MJHDI?
Isn't it possible that the TS on this forum chose the initials "TS" because they were utilizing Mr. Simkins ideas about education etc in regards to informing us about the hoax? I mean I use Serenitys Dream or SD on this forum as my name, yet it has nothing to do with my actual name.
The motto that both STUDY use (Tim Simkins and TIAI Study) is not Study Peace. It's Study To Understand Doctrines Yourself. Clearly, you have not read the page thoroughly
There's no sensation to compare with this
Suspended animation, a state of bliss
Can't keep my mind from the circling skies
Tongue-tied, twisted just an earthbound misfit
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by Serenitys_Dream » Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:14 pm
Anna.K wrote:
The motto that both STUDY use (Tim Simkins and TIAI Study) is not Study Peace. It's Study To Understand Doctrines Yourself. Clearly, you have not read the page thoroughly
Actually you clearly have not read my post. The first PDF I linked says exactly that.
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An introduction to S.T.U.D.Y - Study To Understand Doctrines Yourself
This pdf of a newsletter and is an introduction to techniques to use when undertaking Bible study. To learn to understand bible scripture on your own without having someone else tell you what the scripture means.
doc·trine n.
1. A principle or body of principles presented for acceptance or belief, as by a religious, political, scientific, or philosophic group; dogma.
2. A rule or principle of law, especially when established by precedent.
3. A statement of official government policy, especially in foreign affairs and military strategy.
4. Something taught; a teaching.
And Marlon Jackson did write "S.T.U.D.Y. peace" in the funeral book. This can be read two ways as in a clue to TS who at that time was using the screen name S.T.U.D.Y. and then "peace" as an ending to his message (goodbye sort of thing) or it could be a suggestion to utilize these educational tools, on the study.org site, in a quest for peace.Serenitys_Dream
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by Serenitys_Dream » Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:40 am
Jackson 5 : Man Of War Lyrics
Chorus:
Man of war
Don't go to war no more
Why don't you
Why don't you study peace
Man of war
Don't go to war no more
Study peace
Cause peace is what we need
You think your way
Is the best way for all
You don't know everything
You don't know it all
You got respect a man
For the way he feels
You can't make people do
Things against their will
[Chorus]
Just because your army
Gives you strength and might
Truth is gonna
win...wrong will
Never conquer right
Every man has the right to
Think and be free
You're like a spoiled brat
You want everything you see
You think you bombs
guns, and planes
Make you a big man
When you invade
Another man's land
Tryin' to make him be what
You want him be
Tryin' to make him do
What you want him to
Tryin' to make him say
What you want him to say
I know there's got to
Be a better way
You think your way
Is the best way for all
You don't know everything
You don't know it all
You got respect a man
For the way he feels
You can't make people do
Things against their will
sure, pure love. i'm reading everything and trying to catch up on threads i've missed. i'm not on mjhd by i read what uranus linked us to. i will post the info i have where you've indicated.
1 BELOVED, I am now writing you this second letter. In [both of] them I have stirred up your unsullied (sincere) mind by way of remembrance,
2 That you should recall the predictions of the holy (consecrated, dedicated) prophets and the commandment of the Lord and Savior [given] through your apostles (His special messengers).
3 To begin with, you must know and understand this, that scoffers (mockers) will come in the last days with scoffing, [people who] walk after their own fleshly desires
4 And say, Where is the promise of His coming? For since the forefathers fell asleep, all things have continued exactly as they did from the beginning of creation.
5 For they willfully overlook and forget this [fact], that the heavens [came into] existence long ago by the word of God, and the earth also which was formed out of water and by means of water,
6 Through which the world that then [existed] was deluged with water and perished.
7 But by the same word the present heavens and earth have been stored up (reserved) for fire, being kept until the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly people.
8 Nevertheless, do not let this one fact escape you, beloved, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day.
9 The Lord does not delay and is not tardy or slow about what He promises, according to some people's conception of slowness, but He is long-suffering (extraordinarily patient) toward you, not desiring that any should perish, but that all should turn to repentance.
10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will vanish (pass away) with a thunderous crash, and the [material] elements [of the universe] will be dissolved with fire, and the earth and the works that are upon it will be burned up.
11 Since all these things are thus in the process of being dissolved, what kind of person ought [each of] you to be [in the meanwhile] in consecrated and holy behavior and devout and godly qualities,
12 While you wait and earnestly long for (expect and hasten) the coming of the day of God by reason of which the flaming heavens will be dissolved, and the [material] elements [of the universe] will flare and melt with fire?
13 But we look for new heavens and a new earth according to His promise, in which righteousness (uprightness, freedom from sin, and right standing with God) is to abide.
Here is something you should read, when you ask yourself who TS ( Timothy D. Simkin aka S.T.U.D.Y. ) is. In his newsletter from 2002 you can clearly see that he gravitates toward numerology. He also describes himself and what he feels his avocation is.
Wow, the similarity is striking! Especially underlining of some words in the text.
Hmm... There are 2 options: either Mr. Simkins is playing with our minds for his own entertainment... Or Michael (who also studied the Bible very carefully) might have known TS and asked him to prepare a solid background for the Hoax... Hmmm... Who knows... <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: -->
Here is something you should read, when you ask yourself who TS ( Timothy D. Simkin aka S.T.U.D.Y. ) is. In his newsletter from 2002 you can clearly see that he gravitates toward numerology. He also describes himself and what he feels his avocation is.
Wow, the similarity is striking! Especially underlining of some words in the text.
Hmm... There are 2 options: either Mr. Simkins is playing with our minds for his own entertainment... Or Michael (who also studied the Bible very carefully) might have known TS and asked him to prepare a solid background for the Hoax... Hmmm... Who knows... <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: -->
I thought of that too. But if TS is so secretive about his identity, it doesn't make sense to me that a 30 second search on the internet uncovers the name Tim Simkin with S-T-U-D-Y. I mean, you'd think he'd cover his tracks more if that's who TS really is. But the writing style is similar which is why I won't dismiss Tim Simkin as a possibility, even if he has been debunked. The debunking could be "part of it" too.
Here is something you should read, when you ask yourself who TS ( Timothy D. Simkin aka S.T.U.D.Y. ) is. In his newsletter from 2002 you can clearly see that he gravitates toward numerology. He also describes himself and what he feels his avocation is.
Wow, the similarity is striking! Especially underlining of some words in the text.
Hmm... There are 2 options: either Mr. Simkins is playing with our minds for his own entertainment... Or Michael (who also studied the Bible very carefully) might have known TS and asked him to prepare a solid background for the Hoax... Hmmm... Who knows... <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: -->
I thought of that too. But if TS is so secretive about his identity, it doesn't make sense to me that a 30 second search on the internet uncovers the name Tim Simkin with S-T-U-D-Y. I mean, you'd think he'd cover his tracks more if that's who TS really is. But the writing style is similar which is why I won't dismiss Tim Simkin as a possibility, even if he has been debunked. The debunking could be "part of it" too.
And then we also have LMP with her special connection with TS:
LMP blog from the 26th June 2009 " ...watching on the news almost play by play The exact Scenario I saw happen on August 16th, 1977 happening again ..." And LMP with her Back-like expressions:
LMP MJ interview with Oprah: " That was a train heading in a certain direction and no one could stop it"
Back on 29/06/2007: "You can try throwing as many speed bumps as you like. Watch them crumble. There's no stopping a locomotive at full speed and there's no stopping a 10 ton boulder dropping from the sky. This is a "takeover" and my "intuitive foresight" says "Ain't No Stopping Us Nowwwwww---We're On The Move".
sure, pure love. i'm reading everything and trying to catch up on threads i've missed. i'm not on mjhd by i read what uranus linked us to. i will post the info i have where you've indicated.
Thank you so much and God bless. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
Here is something you should read, when you ask yourself who TS ( Timothy D. Simkin aka S.T.U.D.Y. ) is. In his newsletter from 2002 you can clearly see that he gravitates toward numerology. He also describes himself and what he feels his avocation is.
Wow, the similarity is striking! Especially underlining of some words in the text.
Hmm... There are 2 options: either Mr. Simkins is playing with our minds for his own entertainment... Or Michael (who also studied the Bible very carefully) might have known TS and asked him to prepare a solid background for the Hoax... Hmmm... Who knows... <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: -->
Even if TS is Tim Simkins, do we know who Tim Simkins is? Do we know if there's someone for real with the name of Tim Simkins? Anyone can use any name on the internet. How do we know that Tim Simkins is not an internet name that is used by MJ himself? With the information TS provided us, I do not doubt that he is an insider or probably Michael himself. So I go with number two.
Here is something you should read, when you ask yourself who TS ( Timothy D. Simkin aka S.T.U.D.Y. ) is. In his newsletter from 2002 you can clearly see that he gravitates toward numerology. He also describes himself and what he feels his avocation is.
Wow, the similarity is striking! Especially underlining of some words in the text.
Hmm... There are 2 options: either Mr. Simkins is playing with our minds for his own entertainment... Or Michael (who also studied the Bible very carefully) might have known TS and asked him to prepare a solid background for the Hoax... Hmmm... Who knows... <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: -->
Even if TS is Tim Simkins, do we know who Tim Simkins is? Do we know if there's someone for real with the name of Tim Simkins? Anyone can use any name on the internet. How do we know that Tim Simkins is not an internet name that is used by MJ himself? With the information TS provided us, I do not doubt that he is an insider or probably Michael himself. So I go with number two.
Here is something you should read, when you ask yourself who TS ( Timothy D. Simkin aka S.T.U.D.Y. ) is. In his newsletter from 2002 you can clearly see that he gravitates toward numerology. He also describes himself and what he feels his avocation is.
Wow, the similarity is striking! Especially underlining of some words in the text.
Hmm... There are 2 options: either Mr. Simkins is playing with our minds for his own entertainment... Or Michael (who also studied the Bible very carefully) might have known TS and asked him to prepare a solid background for the Hoax... Hmmm... Who knows... <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: -->
Even if TS is Tim Simkins, do we know who Tim Simkins is? Do we know if there's someone for real with the name of Tim Simkins? Anyone can use any name on the internet. How do we know that Tim Simkins is not an internet name that is used by MJ himself? With the information TS provided us, I do not doubt that he is an insider or probably Michael himself. So I go with number two.
No need to attack who doesn't agree with you, thank god we have different thoughts and personalities. I have to remind you that a person can change his/her mind about something, you are a perfect example, only a few months ago you was the biggest TS opposer, now you think that MJ is TS and you feel free to jump on everybody who disagree with you, do you think it's fair? No, I don't think so... Let people express their point of view. Thank you.
In the old post, TS did mention the option that the STUDY website with Tim Simkins could be a decoy. TS also mentioned now, how he might possibly have other user names (like BACK) where he uses other writing styles. Michael wears various disguises that usually are imitating a real person, such as DD, mayor as Tom Sneddon. Perhaps TS is Michael with a writing style that imitates Tim, and Back's style imitates someone, too. Who, I don't think anyone has suggested. This is an elaborate piece of art. Michael is ACTING, directing, producing, and more. Just thinking...
What exactly is the BAM, does BAM stand for anything?
Like TS said:
This process is still going on, including recently (see section 3, next); although it was rather quiet there for a few months. Did anybody notice that things suddenly picked up recently?
Is this supposed to be significant (meaning having so much info coming, does that show we are getting closer to the BAM?)
In my opinion it is not an abbreveation of certain words. It is just BAM= explosion. What I just heard now, the BAM scene starts with BAM...........ends with BAM. May be most of you knew it, but this is new for me. Below of my signature is a BAM fragment where is sounds very clear. So, he started with BAM=death announcement and will end with BAM=resurrection.
I agree that if TS wants to stay anonymous, he would have covered his tracks, so that means we were meant to find Tim Simkins and his s.t.u.d.y. website. Could it mean that TS is Tim Simkins and is playing with hoaxers? Sure, but in that case I have a few questions:
-How did he get in contact with TMZ?
-How did he get so tied up with Sony?
-How did he get in contact with at least Marlon/Jermaine (since one of them made sure the Army of Love tweet was on the first page again).
-How did he know what we would see in TII?
-How did he know the parallels between MJ and the movie 2012?
Doesn't make sense. If he is a troll, he's a damn good one because not one other troll has ever provided info that he is linked to TMZ, Sony and the Jacksons.
There are some interesting things in his newsletters that caught my eye. First thing is that the last newsletter is from November 2003, right before MJ got arrested. No new newsletters are uploaded after that. Here is what he says about his plans on the web:
Yet the mere fact of publishing S.T.U.D.Y. material on the Web is not my main calling; it is the type of Web publishing that I am planning to do—which is unique, important, and my main calling. I plan to take Web publishing and doctrinal STUDY to a level never done before, as far as I know (and I am fairly sure that I would
know it, if anyone else out there were already doing what I am planning to do). I am not going to “let the cat out of the bag” just yet; but I will give a little detail regarding my plans in this newsletter, and there will be much more detail on this in my next (October) newsletter.
What I have in mind would be very difficult or impossible without the Internet; and although the Internet is used a lot in the promotion of evil, I believe that GOD has provided the Internet as a significant tool—perhaps even the primary tool—in getting the gospel message to every soul on this planet (see Matthew 24:14; Revelation 14:6; etc). Of course this does not mean that every soul will accept the truth, but the truth must be given so clearly that nobody can plead honest ignorance (see Acts 17:30,31; James 4:17; 2 Peter 3:3,5; etc).
[...]
But the problem we face today is that there are continually more and more winds of doctrine blowing (see Ephesians 4:11-16), and so many different voices crying out so many different and conflicting messages, etc—that in view of the current condition of things: it seems almost impossible that the whole truth can go to the whole world. Then what hope is there? I firmly believe that there is hope!! And I also believe that the time is not far distant when there will not be any more honest ignorance in the world—praise the LORD!
How, then, can this be accomplished? Of course there will be many tools and many people involved in finishing this work; but I believe that if I am faithful to my calling, what I have planned for the Website will have a major impact on finishing the work of getting the whole truth to the whole world!
Think of it what you want, but I found it a little ambitious for just a Tim Simkins. It reminds me of this forum and the hoax.
There is also a newsletter about his wedding, which I found a little odd. A complete newsletter about a wedding and the emphasis on how to work with your video equipment, how DVD players work, where you can find info on DVD players, how to set the colors for your television screen. Very technical for something that should be romantic. I thought it was a little weird, but you should read it yourself. Tim Simkins allegedly has made lots of videos, yet not one is found anywhere on the internet. He says he's a regular speaker, yet I can't find him mentioned anywhere.
I enjoyed reading his newsletters as much as I enjoy TS' posts. Although he supposedly is talking about studying the Bible and uses many Bible scriptures, I thought his points are way more general and food for thought, not only about the truth in the Bible, but the truth in everything and that you need to be Response-Able, that you should have an answer for everything and not just blindly believe in yourself or others, but that you need to study yourself to get the answers to your unanswered questions. Study To Understand Doctrines Yourself. Doctrines are not always religious:
doc·trine (dktrn)
n.
1. A principle or body of principles presented for acceptance or belief, as by a religious, political, scientific, or philosophic group; dogma.
2. A rule or principle of law, especially when established by precedent.
3. A statement of official government policy, especially in foreign affairs and military strategy.
4. Archaic Something taught; a teaching.
Here is a part that I find quite interesting, but I advise to read it all, since it's a pretty good read, although quite long.
A wrong answer can be defined as anything, other than silence, that is not a correct answer. A very common type of wrong answer is one that does not address the question (sidetracking); another type does address the question, but is an incomplete and/or inaccurate answer. Because of the potential for wrong answers: some may think that the Response-Able system will not be very effective, in distinguishing truth from error.
It is true that sidetracking is very frequently used, when someone can’t give a clear answer. There are examples of this in the Bible: “Pilate then went out unto them, and said, What accusation bring ye against this man? They answered and said unto him, If he were not a malefactor, we would not have delivered him up unto thee.” (John 18:29,30; see Mark 15:13,14; Luke 23:22,23; etc). They gave a reply, but it was not an answer to the question that Pilate asked—they did not state any specific “accusation”; they were sidetracking! “They all say unto him, Let him be crucified. And the governor said, Why, what evil hath he done? But [instead of answering] they cried out the more, saying, Let him be crucified. When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing, but that rather a tumult was made ...” (Matthew 27:22-24). Here we see that instead of calm, intelligent reasoning: they were operating on raw emotions; and again, we see that their reply (“Let him be crucified”) was not an answer to the question (“what evil hath he done?”).
Another frequently used method of sidetracking is personal attacks, regarding the character of the one asking the question(s); it is an age-old tactic of the devil: if you can’t successfully attack the message, then attack the messenger! But even IF the accusations (stubborn, proud, unloving, etc) were true, and often they are not, this still would not be a valid reason to be excused from answering. The Scripture says: “… be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you …” (1 Peter 3:15; see Colossians 4:6; etc); it does not say that you may be excused from answering—as long as the other guy is stubborn, or proud, or unloving, etc.
Then there is the type of answer that does address the question, and yet fails to be an accurate answer. This is certainly better than sidetracking; and it may often be the result of an honest misunderstanding, instead of an intentional evasion of the truth (such as sidetracking). Nevertheless, it is still a wrong answer.
So how does the Response-Able system solve the problem of wrong answers? It helps to prevent raw emotional outbursts (such as the example in Matthew 27:22-24): by providing an environment that promotes calm, intelligent reasoning—since the questions and answers will be in writing, and available for everyone to carefully examine. This environment will also help to prevent sidetracking; in fact, it should even help to prevent an answer that does address the question, and yet isn’t carefully thought out (a quick or sloppy answer).
However, even with a carefully thought out answer: the possibility still exists for a mistake in the answer. And if that happens, and someone else has a better understanding of the point at hand: then the other person can provide additional information and questions, which will reveal the point of error—based on the same “give an answer” (or Response-Able) understanding test principle, etc.
I have a seven-year-old son, Teilen, who has at times done something wrong (believe it or not). When I confront him with a question, he often has no answer; and even at his young age: he knows that when he is guilty, he cannot give an honest and straight answer in defense of his actions. Sometimes when he can’t answer, he confesses that he did wrong; other times he tries to make excuses, and/or starts sidetracking. But all I have to do is ask one or two more questions, and then he is silenced—and ready to admit that he has done wrong.
So if an answer really is an error: then the question can be restated a little differently, and/or other additional questions asked, which will pinpoint the error; before too long, there will either be no answer—or else an obviously wrong answer (sidetracking, or nonsense, etc; see Exodus 32:21-24). In either case (whether no answer, or an obviously wrong answer): the truth on that point should surface, and become quite obvious.
Of course the ideal solution for wrong answers, is for everyone to follow all the principles of truth—and not give any wrong answers. But if it becomes obvious that a wrong answer has been given, then it will be time to change the teaching on that point. “Every man shall kiss his lips that giveth a right answer.” (Proverbs 24:26).
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S.T.U.D.Y. To Understand Doctrines Yourself Tim, Sonya, and Teilen Simkin
My bet is that this site is created for the purpose of the hoax, for distraction, to see if anyone would dismiss TS' evidence because of it without studying themselves and I also think we should read and understand the newsletters. Even though Tim Simkins hasn't updated his site in 7 years, he still renews the domain every year.
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
What exactly is the BAM, does BAM stand for anything?
Like TS said:
This process is still going on, including recently (see section 3, next); although it was rather quiet there for a few months. Did anybody notice that things suddenly picked up recently?
Is this supposed to be significant (meaning having so much info coming, does that show we are getting closer to the BAM?)
In my opinion it is not an abbreveation of certain words. It is just BAM= explosion. What I just heard now, the BAM scene starts with BAM...........ends with BAM. May be most of you knew it, but this is new for me. Below of my signature is a BAM fragment where is sounds very clear. So, he started with BAM=death announcement and will end with BAM=resurrection.
Thanks for clearing that up. <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
I agree that if TS wants to stay anonymous, he would have covered his tracks, so that means we were meant to find Tim Simkins and his s.t.u.d.y. website. Could it mean that TS is Tim Simkins and is playing with hoaxers? Sure, but in that case I have a few questions:
-How did he get in contact with TMZ?
-How did he get so tied up with Sony?
-How did he get in contact with at least Marlon/Jermaine (since one of them made sure the Army of Love tweet was on the first page again).
-How did he know what we would see in TII?
-How did he know the parallels between MJ and the movie 2012?
Doesn't make sense. If he is a troll, he's a damn good one because not one other troll has ever provided info that he is linked to TMZ, Sony and the Jacksons.
There are some interesting things in his newsletters that caught my eye. First thing is that the last newsletter is from November 2003, right before MJ got arrested. No new newsletters are uploaded after that. Here is what he says about his plans on the web:
Yet the mere fact of publishing S.T.U.D.Y. material on the Web is not my main calling; it is the type of Web publishing that I am planning to do—which is unique, important, and my main calling. I plan to take Web publishing and doctrinal STUDY to a level never done before, as far as I know (and I am fairly sure that I would
know it, if anyone else out there were already doing what I am planning to do). I am not going to “let the cat out of the bag” just yet; but I will give a little detail regarding my plans in this newsletter, and there will be much more detail on this in my next (October) newsletter.
What I have in mind would be very difficult or impossible without the Internet; and although the Internet is used a lot in the promotion of evil, I believe that GOD has provided the Internet as a significant tool—perhaps even the primary tool—in getting the gospel message to every soul on this planet (see Matthew 24:14; Revelation 14:6; etc). Of course this does not mean that every soul will accept the truth, but the truth must be given so clearly that nobody can plead honest ignorance (see Acts 17:30,31; James 4:17; 2 Peter 3:3,5; etc).
[...]
But the problem we face today is that there are continually more and more winds of doctrine blowing (see Ephesians 4:11-16), and so many different voices crying out so many different and conflicting messages, etc—that in view of the current condition of things: it seems almost impossible that the whole truth can go to the whole world. Then what hope is there? I firmly believe that there is hope!! And I also believe that the time is not far distant when there will not be any more honest ignorance in the world—praise the LORD!
How, then, can this be accomplished? Of course there will be many tools and many people involved in finishing this work; but I believe that if I am faithful to my calling, what I have planned for the Website will have a major impact on finishing the work of getting the whole truth to the whole world!
Think of it what you want, but I found it a little ambitious for just a Tim Simkins. It reminds me of this forum and the hoax.
There is also a newsletter about his wedding, which I found a little odd. A complete newsletter about a wedding and the emphasis on how to work with your video equipment, how DVD players work, where you can find info on DVD players, how to set the colors for your television screen. Very technical for something that should be romantic. I thought it was a little weird, but you should read it yourself. Tim Simkins allegedly has made lots of videos, yet not one is found anywhere on the internet. He says he's a regular speaker, yet I can't find him mentioned anywhere.
I enjoyed reading his newsletters as much as I enjoy TS' posts. Although he supposedly is talking about studying the Bible and uses many Bible scriptures, I thought his points are way more general and food for thought, not only about the truth in the Bible, but the truth in everything and that you need to be Response-Able, that you should have an answer for everything and not just blindly believe in yourself or others, but that you need to study yourself to get the answers to your unanswered questions. Study To Understand Doctrines Yourself. Doctrines are not always religious:
doc·trine (dktrn)
n.
1. A principle or body of principles presented for acceptance or belief, as by a religious, political, scientific, or philosophic group; dogma.
2. A rule or principle of law, especially when established by precedent.
3. A statement of official government policy, especially in foreign affairs and military strategy.
4. Archaic Something taught; a teaching.
Here is a part that I find quite interesting, but I advise to read it all, since it's a pretty good read, although quite long.
A wrong answer can be defined as anything, other than silence, that is not a correct answer. A very common type of wrong answer is one that does not address the question (sidetracking); another type does address the question, but is an incomplete and/or inaccurate answer. Because of the potential for wrong answers: some may think that the Response-Able system will not be very effective, in distinguishing truth from error.
It is true that sidetracking is very frequently used, when someone can’t give a clear answer. There are examples of this in the Bible: “Pilate then went out unto them, and said, What accusation bring ye against this man? They answered and said unto him, If he were not a malefactor, we would not have delivered him up unto thee.” (John 18:29,30; see Mark 15:13,14; Luke 23:22,23; etc). They gave a reply, but it was not an answer to the question that Pilate asked—they did not state any specific “accusation”; they were sidetracking! “They all say unto him, Let him be crucified. And the governor said, Why, what evil hath he done? But [instead of answering] they cried out the more, saying, Let him be crucified. When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing, but that rather a tumult was made ...” (Matthew 27:22-24). Here we see that instead of calm, intelligent reasoning: they were operating on raw emotions; and again, we see that their reply (“Let him be crucified”) was not an answer to the question (“what evil hath he done?”).
Another frequently used method of sidetracking is personal attacks, regarding the character of the one asking the question(s); it is an age-old tactic of the devil: if you can’t successfully attack the message, then attack the messenger! But even IF the accusations (stubborn, proud, unloving, etc) were true, and often they are not, this still would not be a valid reason to be excused from answering. The Scripture says: “… be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you …” (1 Peter 3:15; see Colossians 4:6; etc); it does not say that you may be excused from answering—as long as the other guy is stubborn, or proud, or unloving, etc.
Then there is the type of answer that does address the question, and yet fails to be an accurate answer. This is certainly better than sidetracking; and it may often be the result of an honest misunderstanding, instead of an intentional evasion of the truth (such as sidetracking). Nevertheless, it is still a wrong answer.
So how does the Response-Able system solve the problem of wrong answers? It helps to prevent raw emotional outbursts (such as the example in Matthew 27:22-24): by providing an environment that promotes calm, intelligent reasoning—since the questions and answers will be in writing, and available for everyone to carefully examine. This environment will also help to prevent sidetracking; in fact, it should even help to prevent an answer that does address the question, and yet isn’t carefully thought out (a quick or sloppy answer).
However, even with a carefully thought out answer: the possibility still exists for a mistake in the answer. And if that happens, and someone else has a better understanding of the point at hand: then the other person can provide additional information and questions, which will reveal the point of error—based on the same “give an answer” (or Response-Able) understanding test principle, etc.
I have a seven-year-old son, Teilen, who has at times done something wrong (believe it or not). When I confront him with a question, he often has no answer; and even at his young age: he knows that when he is guilty, he cannot give an honest and straight answer in defense of his actions. Sometimes when he can’t answer, he confesses that he did wrong; other times he tries to make excuses, and/or starts sidetracking. But all I have to do is ask one or two more questions, and then he is silenced—and ready to admit that he has done wrong.
So if an answer really is an error: then the question can be restated a little differently, and/or other additional questions asked, which will pinpoint the error; before too long, there will either be no answer—or else an obviously wrong answer (sidetracking, or nonsense, etc; see Exodus 32:21-24). In either case (whether no answer, or an obviously wrong answer): the truth on that point should surface, and become quite obvious.
Of course the ideal solution for wrong answers, is for everyone to follow all the principles of truth—and not give any wrong answers. But if it becomes obvious that a wrong answer has been given, then it will be time to change the teaching on that point. “Every man shall kiss his lips that giveth a right answer.” (Proverbs 24:26).
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S.T.U.D.Y. To Understand Doctrines Yourself Tim, Sonya, and Teilen Simkin
My bet is that this site is created for the purpose of the hoax, for distraction, to see if anyone would dismiss TS' evidence because of it without studying themselves and I also think we should read and understand the newsletters. Even though Tim Simkins hasn't updated his site in 7 years, he still renews the domain every year.
for some reason the last newsletter reminds me of MJ's birthday speach in 2003 when he tells the fans about his plans...... when he says i dont wanna give away too much,
its an interesting read...
Here is something you should read, when you ask yourself who TS ( Timothy D. Simkin aka S.T.U.D.Y. ) is. In his newsletter from 2002 you can clearly see that he gravitates toward numerology. He also describes himself and what he feels his avocation is.
Wow, the similarity is striking! Especially underlining of some words in the text.
Hmm... There are 2 options: either Mr. Simkins is playing with our minds for his own entertainment... Or Michael (who also studied the Bible very carefully) might have known TS and asked him to prepare a solid background for the Hoax... Hmmm... Who knows... <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: -->
Even if TS is Tim Simkins, do we know who Tim Simkins is? Do we know if there's someone for real with the name of Tim Simkins? Anyone can use any name on the internet. How do we know that Tim Simkins is not an internet name that is used by MJ himself? With the information TS provided us, I do not doubt that he is an insider or probably Michael himself. So I go with number two.
No need to attack who doesn't agree with you, thank god we have different thoughts and personalities. I have to remind you that a person can change his/her mind about something, you are a perfect example, only a few months ago you was the biggest TS opposer, now you think that MJ is TS and you feel free to jump on everybody who disagree with you, do you think it's fair? No, I don't think so... Let people express their point of view. Thank you.
Can you show me where I attacked to VeryLittleSusie in my post? I was adding some points and agreeing with her in her second option about TS. It is YOU who got it as an attack in which I never did! I need to ask you to stop jumping on me and try to blame me with the things I didn't do. Thank You.
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Good News.
The absence of TS Update videos has really done a number on my YouTube Channel! <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
Yours is the second channel this web sheriff has deleted. The other channel was using some sort of "sony" video editing program and this sheriff deleted the entire channel & video catalog of the uploader. This has left me with major holes in my playlists that I wont be able to fill till after the Holidays... I just barely caught up from Thanksgiving! <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
Which account are you referring to? The YT link at the bottom of your post sig? I'll make sure to subscribe so I don't loose you. <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) -->
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We discussed about this issue several months ago. Maybe you should read that topic. And TS wrote about that page in one of his updates. No need to bring old stories here.
The long post of TS are precious mines from which to extract the minerals a after another little by little. Refute or to argue opinions that's fine, but not debunk. <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
I do not think there are some Totem or Myths in this forum that from time to time should be demolished.
We are here to investigate, exchange ideas on suspected hoax designed and questioning is fine if people feel the need to doubt certain things.
Everyone has their head to think and decide, there is no mythologizing of any person or at least should not exist ....
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I do not know the topic you suggest. Yet I found this article about S.T.U.D.Y., that I definetely did not know of. So, only for those interested in old stories here is a link:
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And here is other information from the thread you reference on MJHD. SD, I hope you don't mind me linking to your thorough research, please let us know if any of the info has changed since you first posted this on the other site:
FROM MJHD
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Why not? I thought that you had been reading the forum for such a long time. How did you miss that one especially when it comes to TS? I can offer you to check out the section we created for the beginner hoaxers and you can ask the admins where you can find the topics. Almost all of us know about this topic as we had talked about the issue several months ago and there's still no need to bring old ones here, especially with specific purposes! http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewforum.php?f=102 And this one http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=14529
I was wondering if you could also share these on this part of the forum where we're talking about TS' old posts. I think that section would be better and more people would read these there.
http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=14529
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2 Peter 3:1-13 (Amplified Bible)
1 BELOVED, I am now writing you this second letter. In [both of] them I have stirred up your unsullied (sincere) mind by way of remembrance,
2 That you should recall the predictions of the holy (consecrated, dedicated) prophets and the commandment of the Lord and Savior [given] through your apostles (His special messengers).
3 To begin with, you must know and understand this, that scoffers (mockers) will come in the last days with scoffing, [people who] walk after their own fleshly desires
4 And say, Where is the promise of His coming? For since the forefathers fell asleep, all things have continued exactly as they did from the beginning of creation.
5 For they willfully overlook and forget this [fact], that the heavens [came into] existence long ago by the word of God, and the earth also which was formed out of water and by means of water,
6 Through which the world that then [existed] was deluged with water and perished.
7 But by the same word the present heavens and earth have been stored up (reserved) for fire, being kept until the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly people.
8 Nevertheless, do not let this one fact escape you, beloved, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day.
9 The Lord does not delay and is not tardy or slow about what He promises, according to some people's conception of slowness, but He is long-suffering (extraordinarily patient) toward you, not desiring that any should perish, but that all should turn to repentance.
10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will vanish (pass away) with a thunderous crash, and the [material] elements [of the universe] will be dissolved with fire, and the earth and the works that are upon it will be burned up.
11 Since all these things are thus in the process of being dissolved, what kind of person ought [each of] you to be [in the meanwhile] in consecrated and holy behavior and devout and godly qualities,
12 While you wait and earnestly long for (expect and hasten) the coming of the day of God by reason of which the flaming heavens will be dissolved, and the [material] elements [of the universe] will flare and melt with fire?
13 But we look for new heavens and a new earth according to His promise, in which righteousness (uprightness, freedom from sin, and right standing with God) is to abide.
Peace
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Wow, the similarity is striking! Especially underlining of some words in the text.
Hmm... There are 2 options: either Mr. Simkins is playing with our minds for his own entertainment... Or Michael (who also studied the Bible very carefully) might have known TS and asked him to prepare a solid background for the Hoax... Hmmm... Who knows... <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: -->
I thought of that too. But if TS is so secretive about his identity, it doesn't make sense to me that a 30 second search on the internet uncovers the name Tim Simkin with S-T-U-D-Y. I mean, you'd think he'd cover his tracks more if that's who TS really is. But the writing style is similar which is why I won't dismiss Tim Simkin as a possibility, even if he has been debunked. The debunking could be "part of it" too.
And then we also have LMP with her special connection with TS:
LMP blog from the 26th June 2009 " ...watching on the news almost play by play The exact Scenario I saw happen on August 16th, 1977 happening again ..."
And LMP with her Back-like expressions:
LMP MJ interview with Oprah: " That was a train heading in a certain direction and no one could stop it"
Back on 29/06/2007: "You can try throwing as many speed bumps as you like. Watch them crumble. There's no stopping a locomotive at full speed and there's no stopping a 10 ton boulder dropping from the sky. This is a "takeover" and my "intuitive foresight" says "Ain't No Stopping Us Nowwwwww---We're On The Move".
With L.O.V.E
Thank you so much and God bless. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
Even if TS is Tim Simkins, do we know who Tim Simkins is? Do we know if there's someone for real with the name of Tim Simkins? Anyone can use any name on the internet. How do we know that Tim Simkins is not an internet name that is used by MJ himself? With the information TS provided us, I do not doubt that he is an insider or probably Michael himself. So I go with number two.
Hmmm. Excellent point PureLove.
@PureLove
No need to attack who doesn't agree with you, thank god we have different thoughts and personalities. I have to remind you that a person can change his/her mind about something, you are a perfect example, only a few months ago you was the biggest TS opposer, now you think that MJ is TS and you feel free to jump on everybody who disagree with you, do you think it's fair? No, I don't think so... Let people express their point of view. Thank you.
In my opinion it is not an abbreveation of certain words. It is just BAM= explosion. What I just heard now, the BAM scene starts with BAM...........ends with BAM. May be most of you knew it, but this is new for me. Below of my signature is a BAM fragment where is sounds very clear. So, he started with BAM=death announcement and will end with BAM=resurrection.
-How did he get in contact with TMZ?
-How did he get so tied up with Sony?
-How did he get in contact with at least Marlon/Jermaine (since one of them made sure the Army of Love tweet was on the first page again).
-How did he know what we would see in TII?
-How did he know the parallels between MJ and the movie 2012?
Doesn't make sense. If he is a troll, he's a damn good one because not one other troll has ever provided info that he is linked to TMZ, Sony and the Jacksons.
There are some interesting things in his newsletters that caught my eye. First thing is that the last newsletter is from November 2003, right before MJ got arrested. No new newsletters are uploaded after that. Here is what he says about his plans on the web:
Think of it what you want, but I found it a little ambitious for just a Tim Simkins. It reminds me of this forum and the hoax.
There is also a newsletter about his wedding, which I found a little odd. A complete newsletter about a wedding and the emphasis on how to work with your video equipment, how DVD players work, where you can find info on DVD players, how to set the colors for your television screen. Very technical for something that should be romantic. I thought it was a little weird, but you should read it yourself. Tim Simkins allegedly has made lots of videos, yet not one is found anywhere on the internet. He says he's a regular speaker, yet I can't find him mentioned anywhere.
I enjoyed reading his newsletters as much as I enjoy TS' posts. Although he supposedly is talking about studying the Bible and uses many Bible scriptures, I thought his points are way more general and food for thought, not only about the truth in the Bible, but the truth in everything and that you need to be Response-Able, that you should have an answer for everything and not just blindly believe in yourself or others, but that you need to study yourself to get the answers to your unanswered questions. Study To Understand Doctrines Yourself. Doctrines are not always religious:
doc·trine (dktrn)
n.
1. A principle or body of principles presented for acceptance or belief, as by a religious, political, scientific, or philosophic group; dogma.
2. A rule or principle of law, especially when established by precedent.
3. A statement of official government policy, especially in foreign affairs and military strategy.
4. Archaic Something taught; a teaching.
Here is a part that I find quite interesting, but I advise to read it all, since it's a pretty good read, although quite long.
My bet is that this site is created for the purpose of the hoax, for distraction, to see if anyone would dismiss TS' evidence because of it without studying themselves and I also think we should read and understand the newsletters. Even though Tim Simkins hasn't updated his site in 7 years, he still renews the domain every year.
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."Thanks for clearing that up. <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
its an interesting read...
Can you show me where I attacked to VeryLittleSusie in my post? I was adding some points and agreeing with her in her second option about TS. It is YOU who got it as an attack in which I never did! I need to ask you to stop jumping on me and try to blame me with the things I didn't do. Thank You.