Murray's License was suspended? NO!

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  • becbec Posts: 6,387
    Hello I have news from my doctor friend. Now I had not choice to promise him that I will not bother him anymore <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> Ok he send the info, that I send him by email to his colleague in USA. I guess they have some kind of connection, and they searched for Michael death certificate. They found a bogus certificate, that is not valid. No signature not all filled out. The real certificate is no where to be found. This doctor told my friend, they may 2 scenarios.
    1- They do not want no one to find the real death certificate,
    2- Michael is not death so they had to show a bogus certificate.
    He did not find the certificate with Latoya signature. I wonder what she signed?? I guess I am waking up all the doctors in Canada and USA. They are believers now! <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> They find it very bizzar, they really believe now that Michael must have contemplated this hoax to the T. BRAVO MICHAEL YOU ARE THE BEST. WE LOVE YOU
    Now, my friend and his friends do not want to be involved because it is not ethical. They did it for me.

    So what does it mean?? Dr. Murray not a doctor... Death certificate not found.

    so my dear friends we have a big hoax. Love you all and blessings.


    You know I really really really want to believe you.

    I don't not. But I have to keep in mind that you can't offer us any proof, and I know you really can't, legally and morally. That's a shame but it's still fun to read. Thank you for sharing.
    <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> IMO you're only talking alot of he said, she said story telling, and you dont offer any proof one way or the other. <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->



    WELL IT IS MY WORD OR NOTHING. So continue thinking there is a death certificate and Murray is a physician. What can I tell you. I took my friend's time and energy when he is so busy and on top of that I am a 50 yr old woman who is a psychologist, do you think I would have time to write none sense? Or fabricate these informations. You know it is your prerogative to believe what you want. It seems like people are not appreciative of what others do. I understand that in the past we had trolls and people lying. Remember I have been in this forum for a while now. Have I ever lied in any way shape or form? What hurts me the most is that I had to bother my friend, HE IS A REAL DOCTOR BY THE WAY. He graduated with honors PHD. at McGill university? This is a university equavalancy as Harvard, which I graduated also at McGill university with honors. So you are not talking to a fool. So I willl leave you on that note, believe what you want . I will never jeopardize my friend 's job and his ethical anymore. God bless

    I totally agree with you, I hope that was clear. There's nothing else you can offer us, your hands are tied. I'm glad you shared your story with us and didn't just keep it to yourself. Thank you.
  • _Anna__Anna_ Posts: 1,739
    Thank you for your help, all4loveandbelieve.
    I am not sure about something though: considering what your friend found, a bogus certificate, there are indeed 2 options possible, the ones your friend stated, that either they don't want people to have access to the real one, or there is no certificate. But we've seen it online, remember. It was with some spaces blacked to not see names and etc., and it was signed by a coroner. The same certificate like Brittany Murphy and many other celebrities have posted online. It was filled. You can go on google and search in "images". That one what is it then?

    I don't question your friend, I am sure he looked for the certificate, but from what he says, he saw something different than what we have seen on the internet. I am trying to understand if the one who we've seen online is real or not.
  • PureLovePureLove Posts: 5,891
    I don't question your friend, I am sure he looked for the certificate, but from what he says, he saw something different than what we have seen on the internet. I am trying to understand if the one who we've seen online is real or not.

    How can it be real with a wrong middle name and without doctor's signature? There is a death certificate and it is a FAKE. There is not a real death certificate because Michael is ALIVE.
  • PureLovePureLove Posts: 5,891
    Hello I have news from my doctor friend. Now I had not choice to promise him that I will not bother him anymore <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> Ok he send the info, that I send him by email to his colleague in USA. I guess they have some kind of connection, and they searched for Michael death certificate. They found a bogus certificate, that is not valid. No signature not all filled out. The real certificate is no where to be found. This doctor told my friend, they may 2 scenarios.
    1- They do not want no one to find the real death certificate,
    2- Michael is not death so they had to show a bogus certificate.
    He did not find the certificate with Latoya signature. I wonder what she signed?? I guess I am waking up all the doctors in Canada and USA. They are believers now! <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> They find it very bizzar, they really believe now that Michael must have contemplated this hoax to the T. BRAVO MICHAEL YOU ARE THE BEST. WE LOVE YOU
    Now, my friend and his friends do not want to be involved because it is not ethical. They did it for me.

    So what does it mean?? Dr. Murray not a doctor... Death certificate not found.

    so my dear friends we have a big hoax. Love you all and blessings.


    You know I really really really want to believe you.

    I don't not. But I have to keep in mind that you can't offer us any proof, and I know you really can't, legally and morally. That's a shame but it's still fun to read. Thank you for sharing.

    Thank you so much for sharing the info all4loveandbelieve. Some people need to learn how to appreciate what others are doing for all of our sake. Bec, your post is kind of accusing all4loveandbelieve for a possible lie. That is so unfair and rude. She spent her time and effort to learn the info and she shared it with us. She could keep it to herself. You do not need to know her personally for a long time to understand that she could never ever lie about this issue. She has been a very long time member of this forum and all of her posts are very logical and kind. I really didn't understand why it is hard for you to believe her. So your words :"I realy really really want to believe you. But I have to keep in mind that you can't offer us any proof" was rude. Her words are the proof and that is it.

    Anyways all4loveandbelieve, I never thought that death certificate was valid. And it is great to learn that there is no other valid death certificate. Thank you so much for learning about this info and sharing it with us and pls thank your friend for all of us here.
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  • Thank you for your help, all4loveandbelieve.
    I am not sure about something though: considering what your friend found, a bogus certificate, there are indeed 2 options possible, the ones your friend stated, that either they don't want people to have access to the real one, or there is no certificate. But we've seen it online, remember. It was with some spaces blacked to not see names and etc., and it was signed by a coroner. The same certificate like Brittany Murphy and many other celebrities have posted online. It was filled. You can go on google and search in "images". That one what is it then?

    I don't question your friend, I am sure he looked for the certificate, but from what he says, he saw something different than what we have seen on the internet. I am trying to understand if the one who we've seen online is real or not.


    @ Ana, i will explain it to you. The one they found in the internet was not signed, that's what they said. It was a bogus certificate just to through us off. Meaning it is not valid. Someone faked the death certificate to make it legit. They cannot find the REAL certificate, so it means Michael is alive. What my friend's colleaugue stated that it could be 2 options.
    This his assumption, since they cannot find the death certificate. I hope I made it clear
    @purelove. Thank you so much for your kind words. It makes me feel good to see they are some people who appreciate people, and I love you for that. I made a decision, like I said before, I will never never bother my friend again, what ever I find I will share it with myself. this is not the first time I get chewed and spit up. So my dear friends, continue your good work, i will be reading your posts but I will come in this forum time to time. Probably I will hear more news from my friend doctor because his colleugue said that there is something fishy going around and he will try to investigate, and that is because he is a huge fan of Michael. (Not my doctor friend) Unfortunately what ever I find I will not post it because I will not be believed. Love you all God bless.
  • PureLovePureLove Posts: 5,891
    Thank you for your help, all4loveandbelieve.
    I am not sure about something though: considering what your friend found, a bogus certificate, there are indeed 2 options possible, the ones your friend stated, that either they don't want people to have access to the real one, or there is no certificate. But we've seen it online, remember. It was with some spaces blacked to not see names and etc., and it was signed by a coroner. The same certificate like Brittany Murphy and many other celebrities have posted online. It was filled. You can go on google and search in "images". That one what is it then?

    I don't question your friend, I am sure he looked for the certificate, but from what he says, he saw something different than what we have seen on the internet. I am trying to understand if the one who we've seen online is real or not.


    @ Ana, i will explain it to you. The one they found in the internet was not signed, that's what they said. It was a bogus certificate just to through us off. Meaning it is not valid. Someone faked the death certificate to make it legit. They cannot find the REAL certificate, so it means Michael is alive. What my friend's colleaugue stated that it could be 2 options.
    This his assumption, since they cannot find the death certificate. I hope I made it clear
    @purelove. Thank you so much for your kind words. It makes me feel good to see they are some people who appreciate people, and I love you for that. I made a decision, like I said before, I will never never bother my friend again, what ever I find I will share it with myself. this is not the first time I get chewed and spit up. So my dear friends, continue your good work, i will be reading your posts but I will come in this forum time to time. Probably I will hear more news from my friend doctor because his colleugue said that there is something fishy going around and he will try to investigate, and that is because he is a huge fan of Michael. (Not my doctor friend) Unfortunately what ever I find I will not post it because I will not be believed. Love you all God bless.

    Well it is your decision of course and I respect that but I think you shouldn't allow a negative post to stop you posting. We all get some negativity on this forum and everywhere. We can not quit everytime we find some negativity. There are lots of people here who appreciated what you shared and believe you. So wouldn't it be unfair to them not to keep on sharing the info with them? You shouldn't lose your enthusiasm as we need logical, smart and kind posts on the forum. Blessings...
  • Thank you for your help, all4loveandbelieve.
    I am not sure about something though: considering what your friend found, a bogus certificate, there are indeed 2 options possible, the ones your friend stated, that either they don't want people to have access to the real one, or there is no certificate. But we've seen it online, remember. It was with some spaces blacked to not see names and etc., and it was signed by a coroner. The same certificate like Brittany Murphy and many other celebrities have posted online. It was filled. You can go on google and search in "images". That one what is it then?

    I don't question your friend, I am sure he looked for the certificate, but from what he says, he saw something different than what we have seen on the internet. I am trying to understand if the one who we've seen online is real or not.


    @ Ana, i will explain it to you. The one they found in the internet was not signed, that's what they said. It was a bogus certificate just to through us off. Meaning it is not valid. Someone faked the death certificate to make it legit. They cannot find the REAL certificate, so it means Michael is alive. What my friend's colleaugue stated that it could be 2 options.
    This his assumption, since they cannot find the death certificate. I hope I made it clear
    @purelove. Thank you so much for your kind words. It makes me feel good to see they are some people who appreciate people, and I love you for that. I made a decision, like I said before, I will never never bother my friend again, what ever I find I will share it with myself. this is not the first time I get chewed and spit up. So my dear friends, continue your good work, i will be reading your posts but I will come in this forum time to time. Probably I will hear more news from my friend doctor because his colleugue said that there is something fishy going around and he will try to investigate, and that is because he is a huge fan of Michael. (Not my doctor friend) Unfortunately what ever I find I will not post it because I will not be believed. Love you all God bless.

    Well it is your decision of course and I respect that but I think you shouldn't allow a negative post to stop you posting. We all get some negativity on this forum and everywhere. We can not quit everytime we find some negativity. There are lots of people here who appreciated what you shared and believe you. So wouldn't it be unfair to them not to keep on sharing the info with them? You shouldn't lose your enthusiasm as we need logical, smart and kind posts on the forum. Blessings...


    You know purelove, the thing that burns me the most is ,I had to bother my friend to find out the truth., and once I get the truth they don't believe it.It feels like they don't believe Michael is alive, they have to find a BUT somewhere. Just keep it in mind, with all the information we have gotten so far this is the whipping cream on the cake. Enjoy it. I understand we have gotten so many lies in the past , but like I said I have been in this forum for a long time and I was never rude to anyone, I try to help people and find kindness in everyone and make it a positive situation. I know my friend over 20 yrs we are best friends, I do not really need to share all of this with you all, but I will, we go long way. We are the same age, so he helped me with all his heart. I also know his friend I have met him several times. My friend is a surgeon, and also his friend is a surgeon. So they are not stupid doctors. You all have to understand this person is going through an application where they have all the death certificates,which are all legal. Not in the internet where we found the bogus one. They are not blacked out and signed by a coroner. or a physician. He did put himself on the line, he was looking for Michael Jackson, if he would have been caught they would have asked him why do you want to know about the death certificate of Michael Jackson? Like I said at the begining do not ask me how and to post all the information. I had advised you all, I was honest with you from the start, I love Michael with all my heart but I love my friend much more, to have his profession and his friend's profession smeared all over the place. Purelove you are right, why should the good people pay for the bad ones( well bad is a harsh word) i will see if he finds other news, he said he wants to investigate it further since he finds it really fishy. Like I said he is a huge fan of Michael. Asyou can see I am turning 2 doctors into believers lol.
  • TarjaTarja Posts: 645
    all4loveandbelieve, I do appreciate your work on this and it's something very important what you found out. Thank you very much and your friend too. I remember the certificate I saw on the internet - they all have the signatures censored with black colour. I don't know what to make of of them, are they actually censored or the signature is not there and they censored just to hide the blank space?
  • becbec Posts: 6,387
    Hello I have news from my doctor friend. Now I had not choice to promise him that I will not bother him anymore <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> Ok he send the info, that I send him by email to his colleague in USA. I guess they have some kind of connection, and they searched for Michael death certificate. They found a bogus certificate, that is not valid. No signature not all filled out. The real certificate is no where to be found. This doctor told my friend, they may 2 scenarios.
    1- They do not want no one to find the real death certificate,
    2- Michael is not death so they had to show a bogus certificate.
    He did not find the certificate with Latoya signature. I wonder what she signed?? I guess I am waking up all the doctors in Canada and USA. They are believers now! <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> They find it very bizzar, they really believe now that Michael must have contemplated this hoax to the T. BRAVO MICHAEL YOU ARE THE BEST. WE LOVE YOU
    Now, my friend and his friends do not want to be involved because it is not ethical. They did it for me.

    So what does it mean?? Dr. Murray not a doctor... Death certificate not found.

    so my dear friends we have a big hoax. Love you all and blessings.


    You know I really really really want to believe you.

    I don't not. But I have to keep in mind that you can't offer us any proof, and I know you really can't, legally and morally. That's a shame but it's still fun to read. Thank you for sharing.

    Thank you so much for sharing the info all4loveandbelieve. Some people need to learn how to appreciate what others are doing for all of our sake. Bec, your post is kind of accusing all4loveandbelieve for a possible lie. That is so unfair and rude. She spent her time and effort to learn the info and she shared it with us. She could keep it to herself. You do not need to know her personally for a long time to understand that she could never ever lie about this issue. She has been a very long time member of this forum and all of her posts are very logical and kind. I really didn't understand why it is hard for you to believe her. So your words :"I realy really really want to believe you. But I have to keep in mind that you can't offer us any proof" was rude. Her words are the proof and that is it.

    Anyways all4loveandbelieve, I never thought that death certificate was valid. And it is great to learn that there is no other valid death certificate. Thank you so much for learning about this info and sharing it with us and pls thank your friend for all of us here.
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    No. I did not. Read my post again and this time take it at face value without inserting any kind of tone.

    "I don't not believe" her... That means I DO BELIEVE HER. But only at her word because I have nothing else to go on. Doesn't matter. Her information makes sense. Sometimes you have to have faith and trust yourself and your judgment.

    Because here's the bottom line. What makes any of us believe the DC on the internet is real? Because the news says it is? That's all anyone who says it's real has to go on, because that's the only evidence that we have supporting it's authenticity. There is no signature on it, only a black box. So we ASSUME there's a Dr.'s sig under that black box because we are told there is one. By and large, we believe what the news says. We are programed. We have to break free from that.


    In hindsight, a year ago, we were very very new at this whole investigating thing and we had no concept of how deep this illusion goes. I always believed the DC was fake, but it tripped me up to have it available online like that. How can MJ does that? I thought. Easy. The news lies. All the time. Being on the news does not and should not equate with real.

    So yes I believe all4love. Call it a hunch. Call it instinct. I can't really hold it aloft and run off to the non-believer camp with it to garner hoax support, but that doesn't matter, what she says makes sense to me and I believe it.

    Ps. You guys assumed I was saying something I wasn't. I get really tired of that. Read my words. Stop inserting your own tone behind them. Read what I type. I'm very clear.
  • _Anna__Anna_ Posts: 1,739
    thank you all4loveandbelieve. I understand, yes. So what we see online is like a smokescreen certificate? and the one which your friend saw in the database had no signature and fields not filled. Is it?

    Please, I give you an advice but probably you know this; do not post online anything, like a printscreen or photo or something. I am very concerned about this, cause this forum is open. Anyone can see and read it, including bad people. First of all the most important thing is Michael's safety and for him, don't show something compromising. I am always afraid about some bad people who could dig into it and this could put Michael at stake.

    I hope your firend will not get in trouble though.I appreciate your help. Thank you.
  • Hello I have news from my doctor friend. Now I had not choice to promise him that I will not bother him anymore <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> Ok he send the info, that I send him by email to his colleague in USA. I guess they have some kind of connection, and they searched for Michael death certificate. They found a bogus certificate, that is not valid. No signature not all filled out. The real certificate is no where to be found. This doctor told my friend, they may 2 scenarios.
    1- They do not want no one to find the real death certificate,
    2- Michael is not death so they had to show a bogus certificate.
    He did not find the certificate with Latoya signature. I wonder what she signed?? I guess I am waking up all the doctors in Canada and USA. They are believers now! <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> They find it very bizzar, they really believe now that Michael must have contemplated this hoax to the T. BRAVO MICHAEL YOU ARE THE BEST. WE LOVE YOU
    Now, my friend and his friends do not want to be involved because it is not ethical. They did it for me.

    So what does it mean?? Dr. Murray not a doctor... Death certificate not found.

    so my dear friends we have a big hoax. Love you all and blessings.


    You know I really really really want to believe you.

    I don't not. But I have to keep in mind that you can't offer us any proof, and I know you really can't, legally and morally. That's a shame but it's still fun to read. Thank you for sharing.

    Thank you so much for sharing the info all4loveandbelieve. Some people need to learn how to appreciate what others are doing for all of our sake. Bec, your post is kind of accusing all4loveandbelieve for a possible lie. That is so unfair and rude. She spent her time and effort to learn the info and she shared it with us. She could keep it to herself. You do not need to know her personally for a long time to understand that she could never ever lie about this issue. She has been a very long time member of this forum and all of her posts are very logical and kind. I really didn't understand why it is hard for you to believe her. So your words :"I realy really really want to believe you. But I have to keep in mind that you can't offer us any proof" was rude. Her words are the proof and that is it.

    Anyways all4loveandbelieve, I never thought that death certificate was valid. And it is great to learn that there is no other valid death certificate. Thank you so much for learning about this info and sharing it with us and pls thank your friend for all of us here.
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    No. I did not. Read my post again and this time take it at face value without inserting any kind of tone.

    "I don't not believe" her... That means I DO BELIEVE HER. But only at her word because I have nothing else to go on. Doesn't matter. Her information makes sense. Sometimes you have to have faith and trust yourself and your judgment.

    Because here's the bottom line. What makes any of us believe the DC on the internet is real? Because the news says it is? That's all anyone who says it's real has to go on, because that's the only evidence that we have supporting it's authenticity. There is no signature on it, only a black box. So we ASSUME there's a Dr.'s sig under that black box because we are told there is one. By and large, we believe what the news says. We are programed. We have to break free from that.


    In hindsight, a year ago, we were very very new at this whole investigating thing and we had no concept of how deep this illusion goes. I always believed the DC was fake, but it tripped me up to have it available online like that. How can MJ does that? I thought. Easy. The news lies. All the time. Being on the news does not and should not equate with real.

    So yes I believe all4love. Call it a hunch. Call it instinct. I can't really hold it aloft and run off to the non-believer camp with it to garner hoax support, but that doesn't matter, what she says makes sense to me and I believe it.

    Ps. You guys assumed I was saying something I wasn't. I get really tired of that. Read my words. Stop inserting your own tone behind them. Read what I type. I'm very clear.


    sorry Bec, and thank you. My friend couldn't find the certificate that was added in the internet. He found no certificate at all. I am the one who send him the certificate and he said that is bogus. I guess he has signed quite a few, he must know. First of all I am from Canada and we do not put our death certificate in the internet. If they have to show the real certificate there is not suppose to have a black box to hide the signature. This is the first time he saw this. So like I said when he gives me more news I will share it. Sorry again I must have miss understood your point. God bless.
  • becbec Posts: 6,387
    Don't be sorry. You have nothing to be sorry for. I just wanted to clear that up.
  • thank you all4loveandbelieve. I understand, yes. So what we see online is like a smokescreen certificate? and the one which your friend saw in the database had no signature and fields not filled. Is it?

    Please, I give you an advice but probably you know this; do not post online anything, like a printscreen or photo or something. I am very concerned about this, cause this forum is open. Anyone can see and read it, including bad people. First of all the most important thing is Michael's safety and for him, don't show something compromising. I am always afraid about some bad people who could dig into it and this could put Michael at stake.

    I hope your firend will not get in trouble though.I appreciate your help. Thank you.


    Hi Ana, my friend found no death certificate at all. Nothing in the data base. The only thing he has is the death certificate that I send him which we found in the internet and that is a fake one. No death certificate at all. Don't worry I will not jeopardize my friends careers and Michael's life. God bless.
  • MashMikeMashMike Posts: 1,312
    all4loveandbelieve thank u very much for the info , i do really appreciate it and i do really believe you cause IMO u have no reason to lie, waiting forward to read your posts <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
  • LoesLoes Posts: 612
    I also hope to read more from you all4loveandbelieve.
    I much appreciate your effort .. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->

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  • SinderellaSinderella Posts: 1,334
    Oh,I have a lot to catch up on.....................
  • anewfananewfan Posts: 1,125
    @all4loveandbelieve....Thank you for checking into this and thank you for sharing. It seems like everything has been one big bogus made-up mess surrounding this hoax. It's hard to know what to believe anymore. Hopefully all the dots will be connected and it all will make sense when Michael returns.
  • PureLovePureLove Posts: 5,891

    No. I did not. Read my post again and this time take it at face value without inserting any kind of tone.

    "I don't not believe" her... That means I DO BELIEVE HER. But only at her word because I have nothing else to go on. Doesn't matter. Her information makes sense. Sometimes you have to have faith and trust yourself and your judgment.

    Ohh I'm sorry then. This is the first time I saw someone used a sentence like "I don't not believer her". I thought that you used "not" by mistake and thought that you don't believe her. Sorry it's because of my poor english and never saw that using in grammar. My bad. Sorry.
  • DancerDancer Posts: 1,225
    all4loveandbelieve, thank you very much!
  • SinderellaSinderella Posts: 1,334
    Doesn't everyone already think he's fake though or had an idea about it from many many moons ago when it came to light Murray had fake addresses,different backgrounds of the LV surgery in pictures,changed his name etc....the fact he isn't registered shouldn't be a shock at this point.
    There have been questions surrounding his 'Dr' status since very early on.
    It can't come as a suprise when we know no living PHd/Dr/Cardiologist/Surgeon or whatever the hell is is supposed to be,would not know how to do CPR on a human being and one who is suffering cardiac arrest!!!! lmao.
    It is the epitome of the term 'bullshit'.

    Just found this whilst I am looking for the other links,not sure if the links on there still work but it mentioned fake documents
    http://mjkit.forumotion.net/t4028-tmz-new-article-dr-murray-fake-court-documents

    Something about Murray's lawyer's website being fake
    http://michaeljacksonhoax.lefora.com/2009/08/26/dr-murrays-lawyers-website-is-so-fake-that-its-fun/

    Fake patient list-names listed online-broken confidentiality?
    http://michaeljacksonhoax.lefora.com/2009/08/26/murrays-former-patient-list-i-think-its-a-fake/

    Apparently a fake mason as well....not doing v well at life is he tbh...LOL.
    http://www.masonicinfo.com/conradmurray.htm

    Fake/set up child support case (or something)
    http://mjfd.webs.com/apps/blog/entries/show/2184287-the-retired-judge-dr-conrad-murray-under-investigation-

    Just some other things to read in the meantime,while i'm looking for the old threads on his fakeness

    Reviving this since we're inbetween trials and things....worth looking into that episode again?
    http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=14670&p=300384#p300384



    oh and p.s No 'Dr' talks to his patients 'FANS/SUPPORTERS' via youtube....

    #justsayin

    xo
  • MJonmindMJonmind Posts: 7,290
    Thanks for posting those links Sinderella. How they all manage to keep straight faces is beyond me.
    I hadn't seen the fake masons link before. I died laughing! Their headquarters looks as classy as Murray's clinic all boarded up! <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
    http://www.masonicinfo.com/conradmurray.htm
    Dr. Conrad Murray, currently under arrest for his role in the death of rock star Michael Jackson, is ostensibly a member of what is known as the "United Most Worshipful Scottish Rite Grand Lodge of Texas, A.F.& A.M." This group has been long recognized as a BOGUS organization and they've been listed as such in several places on the web including on this site for the past 6-8 years (as of 2009).

    Dr. Conrad Murray, currently under arrest for his role in the death of rock star Michael Jackson, is ostensibly a member of what is known as the "United Most Worshipful Scottish Rite Grand Lodge of Texas, A.F.& A.M." This group has been long recognized as a BOGUS organization and they've been listed as such in several places on the web including on this site for the past 6-8 years (as of 2009).

    Despite the fancy sounding name, this group has NO connection whatsoever to either the Grand Lodge of Texas, The Most Worshipful Prince Hall Grand Lodge of Texas or the Scottish Rite bodies of Texas - or of any other place actually!

    And while they don't have a web site, you could head to the Yahoo Discussion Group they formed in 2003. The summary page shows TWO Was it Michael? members so they'd probably love some company - although the actual sign up page shows them with double that number (4). WOW! The last post was in February of 2005 - 4.5 years ago so you probably won't have any trouble keeping up.
    And here's their headquarters. Awfully impressive, isn't it? Taking over the world certainly isn't very profitable, it would seem - or that 'low profile' stuff has really been taken to heart.
  • SinderellaSinderella Posts: 1,334
    AHA I know right,a few coats of paint wouldn't go a miss would they?!
    Looks ready to be knocked to the ground

    I'll see what else I can find,the only thing real about him atm though seems to be that he is actually alive and breathing...
  • MissGMissG Posts: 7,403
    I am not sure if the same code applies internationally, however, in the article 16.4 of the "deontologic code" it says:
    patient's death does not absolve the duty of medical secrecy
    19.3
    a medical database should not be connected to a nonmedical computer network

    This makes me think about 2 scenarios:
    -Michael´s private medical info was leaked and sold to media
    -Michael´s private medical info shown in the media is fake.

    In any case, Michael´s medical info, as a patient, should be registered in the system but I am not familiar in how any doctor can get access to it outside USA or if the info is "online" within their systems.

    If info is in the network system, we know how smart hackers can be to crack in and sell the info after.

    Also, UCLA had in the pass some serious problems regarding private patient´s info being leaked to media by some doctors and workers in reward of money.

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  • HeartbreakerHeartbreaker Posts: 8,644
    all4loveandbelieve and Sinderella, thank u very much for the info !!
  • scorpionchikscorpionchik Posts: 2,669
    SORRY GUYS, I THINK I HAVE TO WRIGHT IN VERY LARGE FORMAT SO YOU PAY ATTENTION. SINCE I HAVE ALREADY POSTED THIS AND PROBABLY NORMAL FORMAT IS INVISIBLE SOMETIMES.
    NOW. CONRAD MURRAY NEVER HAD CA MED. LICENSE BECAUSE WHEN PERSON HAS ANY TYPE OF LINCENSE AND IT IS REVOKED, INACTIVE, OR SUSPENDED, THAT BOARD SHOWS THE STATUS. SINCE CA MED BOARD DOES NOT SHOW ANY CA LIC. OF MURRAY THAT HAVE BEEN SUSPENDED, THEN HE NEVER HAD ONE. PERIOD! LICENSE INFO NEVER DISAPPEARS. IT IS ALWAYS SHOWS CURRENT STATUS AND REMAINS EVEN WHEN PERSON DIES, IT SAYS "DECEASED". LAST TIME I RETRIEVED INFO, IT WAS STILL ACTIVE. HOW CA JUDGE DECISION TO SUSPEND LIC. HAD INFLUENCE LICENSES ARE SUSPENDED.


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    The following information is maintained by the Medical Board of California. For more information, click on the blue tabs above.
    License: G 71169

    Licensee may be a U.S. or Canadian medical school graduate whose pathway to licensure was based on the NBME examination.
    License Type: Physician and Surgeon
    Name: CONRAD ROBERT MURRAY, M.D.
    Address of Record: PO BOX 72216
    LAS VEGAS, NV 89170

    Address of Record County: OUT OF STATE
    License Status: License Suspended
    Licensee has been suspended. No practice is permitted.
    Public Record Action(s): Penal Code Section 23 Order
    Licensee's practice has been temporarily restricted or limited pursuant to a court order.
    Disciplined By Other State/Federal Government
    Another state or the federal govenment has disciplined licensee.
    Original Issue Date: April 22, 1991
    Expiration Date: February 28, 2011
    School Name: MEHARRY MEDICAL COLLEGE SCHOOL OF MEDICINE
    Year Graduated: 1989


    Primary Practice Location Zip Code: 89119
    Board Certification(s): No board certifications identified
    Primary Practice Area(s): CARDIOLOGY

    Secondary Practice Area(s): INTERNAL MEDICINE


    Public Record Action(s):Please select the Public Record Documents tab to view the public document database. If information is posted in the Administrative Disciplinary Actions, Court Order, Administrative Citation Issued, or License Issued with Public Letter of Reprimand categories below, documents may be available for review. To find out what information is and is not available, please click here.Administrative Disciplinary Actions: The Medical Board's public disclosure screens are updated periodically as new information becomes available. Please contact the Central File Room at (916) 263-2525 or at 2005 Evergreen Street, Suite 1200, Sacramento, CA 95815, to obtain a copy of public documents at a minimal charge.No Administrative Disciplinary Actions found.Court Order: This information would be provided if a physician's practice has been temporarily restricted or suspended pursuant to a court order. Please contact the Central File Room at (916) 263-2525 or at 2005 Evergreen Street, Suite 1200, Sacramento, CA 95815, to obtain a copy of the public documents.Description of Action: THE SUPERIOR COURT OF CALIFORNIA, COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES, CASE #SA073164 ISSUED AN ORDER IN PEOPLE OF CALIFORNIA VS. CONRAD ROBERT MURRAY. DR. MURRAY IS TO IMMEDIATELY CEASE AND DESIST FROM PRACTICING MEDICINE IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
    Effective Date of Action: January 11, 2011
    Administrative Action Taken by Other State or Federal Government: This information is provided by another state/federal government agency. The Medical Board of California may take administrative action based on the action imposed by another state/federal government agency. For more information or verification, contact the agency listed below that imposed the action.Jurisdiction: NEVADA STATE BOARD OF MEDICAL EXAMINERS
    Description of Action: NEVADA BOARD ISSUED DR. MURRAY A REPRIMAND.
    Date of Action: December 6, 2010
    Jurisdiction: NEVADA STATE BOARD OF MEDICAL EXAMINERS
    Description of Action: LICENSEE STIPULATED TO RESTRICTIONS ON HIS NEVADA MEDICAL LICENSE PROHIBITING HIM FROM PRESCRIBING OR ADMINISTRERING ANY ANESTHETIC AGENT NORMALLY ADMINISTERED BY AN ANESTHESIOLOGIST, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO PROPOFOL OR ANY OTHER HEAVY SEDATIVE MEDICATION USED AS ANESTHESIA.
    Date of Action: June 10, 2010
    Jurisdiction: TEXAS MEDICAL BOARD
    Description of Action: LICENSEE ENTERED INTO AN AGREED ORDER WITH THE TEXAS MEDICAL BOARD PROHIBITING LICENSEE FROM USING OR ADMINISTERING ANY ANESTHETIC AGENT THAT IS NORMALLY ADMINISTERED BY AN ANESTHESIOLOGIST, INCLUDING PROPOFOL OR ANY OTHER HEAVY SEDATIVES; OR PRESCRIBING OR ADMINISTERING ANY FORM OF GENERAL SEDATION TO A PATIENT, OR FROM SUPERVISING OR DELEGATING PRESCRIPTIVE AUTHORITY TO PHYSICIAN ASSISTANTS AND OTHER PHYSICIAN EXTENDERS.
    Date of Action: April 9, 2010
    Felony Conviction: The information provided only includes felony convictions that are known to the Board. All felony convictions known to the Board are reviewed and administrative action is taken only if it is determined that a violation of the Medical Practice Act occurred. For more information regarding felony convictions, contact the court of jurisdiction listed below.No Felony Convictions found.Misdemeanor Conviction: California Business and Professions Code section 2027 (A)(7) states effective 1/1/07, any misdemeanor conviction that results in a disciplinary action or an accusation that is not subsequently withdrawn or dismissed shall be posted on the Internet.No Misdemeanor Convictions found.Administrative Citation Issued: A citation and/or fine has been issued for a minor violation of the law. This is not considered disciplinary action under California law but is an administrative action. Payment of the fine amount represents satisfactory resolution of this matter.No Administrative Citations found.License Issued with Public Letter of Reprimand: The Medical Board of California has concurrently issued the applicant a medical license and a Public Letter of Reprimand for a minor violation that does not require probationary status or warrant denial. The issuance of a Public Letter of Reprimand is not considered disciplinary action and is not reported to the National Practitioner Databank or the Federation of State Medical Boards.No License Issued with Public Letter of Reprimand found.Hospital Disciplinary Action: The action taken by this healthcare facility against this physician's staff privileges to provide health care services at this facility was for a medical disciplinary cause or reason. The Medical Board is authorized by law to disclose only revocations and terminations of staff privileges. The Medical Board is prohibited from releasing a copy of the actual report or any other information.No Hospital Disciplinary Actions found.Malpractice Judgment: A malpractice judgment is a payment for damages and does not necessarily reflect that the physician's medical competence is below the standard of care. The Medical Board reviews all such reported judgments and action is taken only if it is determined that a violation of the Medical Practice Act occurred. The Medical Board is prohibited by law from releasing a copy of the judgment report or any other information concerning the judgment. For more information contact the court of jurisdiction listed below.No Malpractice Judgments found.Arbitration Award: An arbitration award is a payment for damages and does not necessarily reflect that the physician's medical competence is below the standard of care. The Medical Board reviews all such reported arbitration awards and action is taken only if it is determined that a violation of the Medical Practice Act occurred. The Medical Board is prohibited by law from releasing a copy of the arbitration award report or any other information concerning the award.No Arbitration Awards found.Malpractice Settlements: A settlement entered into by the licensee is a resolution of a claim for damages for death or personal injury caused by the licensee's negligence, error, or omission in practice, or by his or her rendering of unauthorized professional services. The Medical Board is required by law to disclose certain information related to the existence of multiple settlements made on or after January 1, 2003 in an amount of $30,000 or more.No Malpractice Settlements found.Note: "No information available from this agency" may not indicate none exists; but indicates no information has been reported to the Medical Board of California and/or that the Board is unable to post the information on the Web site by law.
    Public Record Documents:All imaged documents provided by the Medical Board are being made available to provide immediate access for the convenience of interested persons. While the Medical Board believes the information to be reliable, human or mechanical error remains a possibility, as does delay in the posting or updating of information. Therefore, the Medical Board makes no guarantee as to the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, currency, or correct sequencing of the information. The Medical Board shall not be responsible for any errors or omissions, or for the use or results obtained from the use of this information. The types of documents which are available include, but are not limited to, accusations, decisions, suspension/restriction orders, public letters of reprimand and citations.Date Type Pages
    February 8, 2010 SUSPENSION/RESTRICTION ORDER 2
    January 11, 2011 SUSPENSION/RESTRICTION ORDER 21
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    If a physician has been disciplined or formally accused of wrongdoing by the Board.If a physician's practice has been temporarily restricted or suspended pursuant to a court order.If a physician has been disciplined by a medical board of another state or federal government agency.If a physician has been convicted of a felony reported to the Board after January 3, 1991.If a physician has been convicted of a misdemeanor after January 1, 2007 that results in a disciplinary action or an accusation being filed by the Board, and the accusation is not subsequently withdrawn or dismissed.If a physician has been issued a citation for a minor violation of the law by the Board within the last five years. This is not considered disciplinary action.If a physician has been issued a public letter of reprimand at time of licensure. This is not considered disciplinary action.Any hospital disciplinary actions that resulted in the termination or revocation of the physician's privileges to provide health care services at a health care facility for a medical disciplinary cause or reason reported to the Board after January 1, 1995.After January 1, 1998, all malpractice judgments and arbitration awards (between January 1, 1993 and January 1, 1998, only those malpractice judgments and arbitration awards more than $30,000 were required to be reported to the Board).After January 1, 2003, malpractice settlements over $30,000 that meet the following criteria:Four or more in a 10-year period (beginning 1/1/03) if the physician practices in a high-risk specialty (obstetrics, orthopedic surgery, plastic surgery and neurological surgery)Three or more in a 10-year period (beginning 1/1/03) if the physician practices in a low-risk specialty (all other specialties)Under California law, the following information is confidential and NOT public and would NOT appear on a record if applicable to the physician:
    Complaints made to the Medical Board of CaliforniaInvestigations conducted by the Medical Board of CaliforniaMisdemeanor convictions that occurred prior to January 1, 2007Misdemeanor convictions that occurred after January 1, 2007 that did not result in a disciplinary action or an accusation being filed by the BoardSome medical malpractice information, e.g., pending or dismissed cases. This information may be available at the local county courthouse in the "Civil Index." Click here for California Superior Court contact information.All information provided by the Medical Board of California on this Web page, and on its other Web pages and Internet sites, is made available to provide immediate access for the convenience of interested persons. While the Board believes the information to be reliable, human or mechanical error remains a possibility, as does delay in the posting or updating of information.
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