The Return of the Moonwalker

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  • becbec Posts: 6,387
    Holy shit.

    That trailer is random hoax reference after random hoax reference stacked start to 2:22 finish... it's perfect, it's satire, it's dark comedy, it's a big, silly, edgy joke... did Michael...?

    I've officially lost my mind.
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  • RKRK Posts: 3,019
    Oh my goodness. It's like someone read the forum from start to finish and wrote a satirical screen play from it. <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
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    SO bizarre!
  • becbec Posts: 6,387
    Oh my goodness. It's like someone read the forum from start to finish and wrote a satirical screen play from it. <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->

    Yeah, you said what I was trying to say. Exactly!
  • Oh my goodness. It's like someone read the forum from start to finish and wrote a satirical screen play from it. <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->

    Yeah, you said what I was trying to say. Exactly!

    It certainly seems that way.
  • Oh my goodness. It's like someone read the forum from start to finish and wrote a satirical screen play from it. <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
    this is exactly what i thought, especially the part when the illusionist brought back michael to life <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> But the clip is hilarious
  • RKRK Posts: 3,019
    What gets me is the forgotten threads that seem referenced like when we were discussing Hitler and what MJ said to schmuzzley about him, the thread where TMZ posted the re-leaf center and the marijuana [ also found in carolwood drive], the little person and that pic that surfaced with Mike after Moonwalker movie wrap up drinking and partying with the two cuties on his lap. The count of monte cristo reference and all the religious symbolism. This has me just staring at my screen lost for words or coherent thought.
  • AndreaAndrea Posts: 3,787
    Holy shit.

    That trailer is random hoax reference after random hoax reference stacked start to 2:22 finish... it's perfect, it's satire, it's dark comedy, it's a big, silly, edgy joke... did Michael...?

    I've officially lost my mind.

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  • sorry, not fan of that MJ in that video <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
  • becbec Posts: 6,387
    Because I am truly intrigued, remember Miss Castaway, and this film doesn't look quite as as low budget as they're making it out to be, I did some light research on this movie.

    this post is long but worth the read if this trailer's coincidences are interesting to you.

    Starting with,
    [Upon further investigation by Movieline, it appears that The Return of the Moonwalker, also known under the title The Cabinet of Dr. Cagliostro, filmed in Berlin last year under directors Mike Maria and Mike Moreau. More pics, courtesy of Stilfabrik, after the jump.]
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    I Google searched "The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari" and found this:
    What famously complicates the tale is its frame. The entire story is being told by a young man who is not who he seems. And by the end of film we are no longer certain who is crazy and who is not.

    The frame story in particular was attacked as a cliché that undermined a potentially daring attack on authority by turning everything into a madman's fantasy.

    More recent studies, however, notably those by Richard Murphy, Paul Coates, and Catherine Clérmont, have stressed the extreme oddity of the story, its surprising quirkiness and complex Freudian overtones. For starters, one way Caligari distinguished itself from other expressionist films is that it's the only such film to link its preoccupation with the occult to psychoanalysis. Almost every German expressionist film concerns itself with the uncanny, ranging from Nosferatu, and Der Golem to Dr. Mabuse, the criminal mastermind who works through occult hypnotic powers, and Metropolis.

    But Caligari's the only one to see occult, demonic aspects in psychiatry. And that combination has proven irresistible to Lacanian critics. Far from banal, Caligari's narrative has been perceived as a deconstructionist's delight, filled with peculiar doublings, repetitions, and character splits. It's a film that seems as schizophrenic as any of its characters, marked by a kind of decenteredness where it's impossible to distinguish insiders from outsiders, interiors from exteriors, masters from underlings. If the film takes on the character of a dream, it's not just because the frame story tells us it's all been a madman's fantasy. The main narrative itself is constantly hopping back and forth between rational, cause-effect sequences to fantastical dream-like events.
    <!-- m -->http://qag.qld.gov.au/cinematheque/cine ... the_movies<!-- m -->

    Sounds familiar.

    Apparently this movie is very historical sociologically. The things you learn while working the MJ death hoax...
    The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari: Flogging Expressionism in the Movies

    Expressionism is famous as the first avant-garde art movement introduced to mass audiences through the movies, and Caligari is the film that opened the gates. It was made in the fall of 1919, produced on a modest budget at the tiny Lixi studio just outside Berlin, and from the beginning it became a site of a cultural and political battleground.

    Nor was this accidental. Caligari had always been meant as a prestige item, designed as an alternative to Hollywood productions that were threatening to suffocate Germany's film industry.

    <snip>

    One look at the French, American, and British reviews of Caligari reveals how unfamiliar Expressionism was outside the confines of Germany and Austria, even as late as 1921. Although Caligari's sets immediately became the best-known and most often described aspect of the film, few critics knew what to call them. In American journals, they were usually called cubist, futurist, or [in the case of Carl Sandburg when he reviewed the film for the Chicago Daily News] post-impressionist. In France, they were considered examples of Art Nouveau, adapted from the Ballets Russes. Distributors and exhibitors, like daily newspaper reviewers, gave up altogether and called the film simply a novelty, or a 'spook film' to use the phrase favored by the Americans. Carl Sandberg thought Caligari's title should be changed to "Who's Loony Now?"

    This link between Expressionism and horror quickly eclipsed the associations between Expressionism and the avant garde. It was Caligari’s distinctive creepiness that became its most famous mark, particularly in the United States and in England where its weirdness became a point of departure for both the critics and advertizers. I can't say I've ever seen ads for a film quite like this. When Sam Goldwyn's company distributed the film in the United States, the trade ads included the warning: “BEWARE. This film is not suitable for audiences composed of women and children who seek recreation. It is morbidly unhealthy and leaves a bad impression on timorous natures." A theater in St. Louis was even more explicit: "We do not recommend this picture to nervous women or to anyone who may be easily frightened."

    As a publicity stunt, Caligari's promoters in the little town of Pottstown PA made up red paper notes reading "Revenge - Cesare," attached them to bread knives and stuck them in the doors of a half-dozen of the town's leaders. The theater manager was arrested of course - that was the point - but pleaded he was under the spell of a sinister force when he etc.

    While we're on the subject of American distribution, I might add that the film had a particularly colorful reception in California.

    Frequently we ask about the "Function" of the decor in a film. One function of Caligari's expressionist setting was to label it unmistakably German. Goldwyn had tried to pass Caligari off simply as "Foreign" or "European" the same way that Paramount had successfully marketed Lubitsch's Passion the year before. But absolutely no one was fooled. And in California, this became a particular problem. No major theater chain would touch Caligari on the west coast, so in Los Angeles it opened in a small independent theater called Miller's where it lasted exactly one day. The American Legion, Actors' Equity, and the Directors Guild of America [Motion Picture Directors' Assn], egged on by the Hearst press, picketed the film and Caligari was immediately taken out of the theater. This triggered an unofficial ban on all foreign films across the west coast that lasted for four months. It only ended when Caligari surfaced again in San Francisco. The irony was that it was brought in as a last-minute substitute for the one film even more ferociously denounced than Caligari, Griffith's The Birth Of A Nation.
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    This gets better the more I read. The whole film is an illusion, down to the cinematography and even... the letters in the title <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> :
    But it gets even trickier. If you conclude that the scene is actually illuminated by studio light – that is, artificial light - you need to look harder. The dominant light in this moonlight scene is not electrical; it's provided by sunlight and diffusers. Like much of the rest of the film, Alan's bedroom was filmed in a so-called greenhouse studio with glass roofs and walls. Moonlight, in other words, is being provided by sunlight. The idea that this is an interior space lit with real and fake artificial illumination is itself an illusion.

    <snip>

    We can start with the title itself, which contains a secret of its own. It is called Das Cabinet Des Dr. Caligari, where Cabinet most obviously refers to a room or chamber, a special room in a museum or in this case a fairground that houses a collection or attraction of this kind.

    But Cabinet has other meanings that the filmmakers were careful to weave into their title, but which has inadvertently been lost through a strange case of mis-translation. Because Caligari is a German film, most commentators have instinctively spelled "Cabinet" with a K and two 't's. But as Murphy has argued, the film's original title, which can be seen here in an original poster, adopts the French and English spelling - [le] Cabinet, with a C and a single t. So that the word takes on a meaning which is lost in the German. The French 'Cabinet' is the office of a professional person, in this case the surgery of a Doctor. The most provocative meaning of cabinet, however, may be a third one, common to both the French and German: the cabinet as a side room, or an adjacent space.

    Keep reading that link, it's too much to put here but basically, this movie is a 1919 TS style Mind Fuck.

    In to the original report that the movie was remade as "Return of the Moonwalker" and filmed last year. Found several of these Help-Wanted ads:
    ZOMBIES/THRILLER WALKERS (BERLIN)
    Looking for ZOMBIES/THRILLER WALKERS to perform live in a low-budget horror comedy to be filmed in Berlin in November/December:

    "The Cabinet of Dr. Cagliostro", an anarchic comedy with an occult flair/"Rocky Horror meets Dr. Caligari".

    Please direct enquiries to:

    Mike Moreau

    DeRam Filmproduktion
    From De - 30+ days ago - 31 views
    This job was posted 30+ days ago, and has expired.
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    One more interesting fact about the film, this random guy's bio lists the film:
    Resume of Manoj Thomas
    Currently residing in: Berlin: +xxxxxxxxxx
    Email: xxxxxxxxxxxx.com

    EMPLOYMENT BACKGROUND

    2009/2010 FREELANCER

    Production Manager DeRam Productions, Berlin, Deutschland

    Responsibilities and Achievements included:

    · 90 min feature length film titled “Cabinet of Dr. cagliostro’.

    · Budgeting, scheduling and coordinating cast/crew

    · Tight 21 day film schedule at several historic locations in Berlin.
    coincidence I'm sure, lol.

    Looking further into the relevance of the movie and the plot... oh my my my:
    Philippa describes how she came to write the book with Robert L. D. Cooper i]Dr. Richelle Cooper from UCLAER?[/i and from there she tells us about Count Alessandro Cagliostro, his life and his devotion to the Egyptian Rite of Freemasonry. Our conversation goes into depth regarding the meaning and implications of Cagliostro’s work. Notably, the story of Cagliostro highlights the anti-Masonic sentiments, or Masonophobia, that is still prevalent in some circles.

    “Miracle-worker or man of straw? Count Alessandro Cagliostro was a cult figure of European society in the tumultuous years leading to the French Revolution. An alchemist, healer, and Freemason, he inspired both wild devotion and savage ridicule…

    “Cagliostro’s sincere belief in the magical powers … conferred by his Egyptian Rite of Freemasonry won him fame, but made him dangerous enemies, too…

    “The Masonic Magician tells Cagliostro’s extraordinary story, complete with the first English translation of the Egyptian Rite ever published. The authors examine the case made against him, that he was an impostor as well as a heretic, and find that the Roman Church, and history itself, have done him a terrible injustice.

    “This engaging account, drawing on remarkable new documentary evidence, shows that the man condemned was a genuine visionary and true champion of Freemasonry. His teachings have much to reveal to us today not just of the secrets of Freemasonry, but of the mysterious hostility the movement continues to attract.
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    I searched Mike Maria. The only relevant result is an actor (?) listed on IMDb:
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    And the only Mike Moreau I can find is an NBA (basketball) player.

    CraaaaAaaazy stuff, no?
  • SEHFSEHF Posts: 954
    Anybody save the video? I didn't get to see it before it was removed..
  • curlscurls Posts: 3,111
    I saw it and personally found it rather disturbing. Not something I'd chose to watch, especially when even it's 'MJ' was creepy.
  • SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400
    I didn't get to see it either, did someone download it?

    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

  • watched it on Youtube...One word....WEIRD....
  • video is removed because of violation of youtube policy of nudity and sexual content <!-- s:( -->:(<!-- s:( -->
  • SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400
    Here is the 1919 version. Will watch it when I come home tonight, sounds interesting.

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    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

  • MashMikeMashMike Posts: 1,312
    i think the fans have reported it for several times that's why it's gone now
  • SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400
    Okay, found the video elsewhere:

    <!-- m -->http://studio.wp.pl/i,TheReturnoftheMoo ... caid=1bcf3<!-- m -->

    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

  • god, im wanna see this movie so bad <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
  • MJonmindMJonmind Posts: 7,290
    Thanks Imred and Souza!
    I agree, totally weird like Lady Gaga directed it somehow. It's not my cup of tea really, but on the other hand it shows some creativity and does have elements of topics we discussed here in this forum. It is twisted and dark satire. Do we really know what amused Michael? He was/is pretty sharp and intelligent and likes controversial/provocative complex plots/ideas. Remember the Casket Guy? That was dark. Michael did say he thought Lady Gaga had talent, enough to want her to be in his TII opening act. Many would say that when Michael performed on stage he was very sexual in his lyrics and body movements, and blasphemous in imitation of Jesus Christ. This is quite interesting, hoax-wise, and probably needs more investigating.
  • ForstAMoonForstAMoon Posts: 1,126
    oh, gosh, is this for real <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o -->

    <!-- m -->http://www.returnofthemoonwalker.com/moonwalker2.html<!-- m -->

    <!-- m -->http://www.stilfabrik.at/cagliostro/cagliostro.html<!-- m -->
  • trustno1trustno1 Posts: 654
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    Bizarre with a capital B!
  • fordtocarrfordtocarr Posts: 1,547
    That IN MY OPINION, was AWFUL. It made me cry. It was sickening and disgusting. Some people must've read out comments and then blew them up into this degrading piece of evil.
    Who the hell are these people that made this? And WHY? It seriously is not a trailer for an actual film is it??
    ugh....
    ugh...
    ugh..
    my opinions
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