Sony & Sega have been working on this for an awfully long time, hate to burst all your bubbles. I'll let you in on the secret, rather than laugh. They started with the Vocaloids Live in Japan, where they use Anime Holograms live in concert with live bands & orchestras. It's really quite the rage! It's the SAME Holographic type screen, if you pay attention - and it's quite a shock, when the second character jumps out of the first: <br /><br />This one, condensed from a show, shows how rich the 3D characters are - A Vocaloid character turns into an Archangel @3:49, which totally wows the audience - THIS is what entertainment is morphing into:<br /><br /><br />If you watch "Tupac" watch his feet closely; therein is the lie, plus how they brought him up! Just like the other Vocaloids, exactly like how they bring them up in some of the concerts! They have "costume changes," etc. "Tupac" character was created composite, overlaying a "skin" on top of a 3D model body. That's why it slips, and goes through almost the same motions, on a sort of loop with limited motion. It's actually quite archaic, on the standards we have now - they only had footage to "skin" the model from.<br /><br />
My understanding of a hologram is that it is projected onto a back drop, which appears to be the case in the Japanese videos just posted, and is what is explained in this article.<br /><br /> It's impressive but not nearly as convincing as the Tupac one. Not convinced.<br /><br />Also, it appears that this was a 'surprise.' However, costs for the 'hologram' were estimated to be in the hundreds of thousands. Poor marketing, I would suggest. And now they're talking a 'tour' with the hologram? And what about the 'estate of...'? Do they get some kind of say and/ or share in this venture? Can I make a hologram of Elvis and go on tour?
Makaveli’s Death - The Facts! 1. 2Pac died on Friday 13th (September 1996). This was exactly 7 months, to the day, after the release of All Eyez On Me (released February 13th 1996).<br /><br />2. 2Pac's time of death is recorded as 4:03 p.m.(4+3=7).<br /><br />3. 2Pac was shot on the 7th of September.<br /><br />4. 2Pac survived 7 days. (7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th and 'died on the 13th....)<br /><br />5. R U STILL DOWN (Remember Me ?) was released on November 25th (2+5=7)<br /><br />6. In the Toss It Up video, he also smashes the mirror, perhaps a reference to 7 years bad luck<br /><br />7. In Tupac's last movie ''Gang Related'' his badge number is 115(1+1+5=7).<br /><br />8. On Jon B's CD "cool relax" the song "Are You Still Down" featuring 2pac is track 7. Tupac is on track 7 on daz's new album<br /><br />9. Tupac is on track 7 on daz's new album<br /><br />10. In the movie, "Gridlock'd," when Tupac and Roth are in the diner and they glance up at the menu, all the L's are upside down 7's.<br /><br />11. On the song, "White Man's World" if you listen very closely at the beginning, there is a voice in the background saying, " 7 years, 7 years, 7 years...<br /><br />12. He died when he was 25 years old (2+5=7)<br /><br />13. 2pacs funeral was cancelled the day before then created the next day noone saw the body<br /><br />In Tupac's song, "No More Pain," he says, "A heart of a soldier with the brains to teach a whole nation..." Is he referring to Jesus or Machiavelli?<br /><br />The video, "I Ain't Mad At Cha, " was released only days after Tupac's, "death." It depicts Tupac being gunned down much of the way he was really shot.<br /><br />"I Ain't Mad At Cha," is also track number 13 on, "All Eyez On Me," and Tupac died on Friday the 13<br /><br />In the, "I Ain't Mad At Cha," video, Tupac dies. In his next video, "Toss It Up," his name is Makaveli.<br /><br />In the, "Hail Mary," video, there is a gravestone that says, "Makaveli." It is cracked and there's a hole in front of it; this inplies that Makaveli rose from the dead. <br /><br />And here's the number 7 Again :suspect:
One of Machiavelli's books is, "Discourses Upon The First Ten Books Of Titus Livy," which it's claimed Tupac read in jail. In Book 2, Chapter XIII He says, "a prince who wishes to achieve great things must learn to decieve..." This is very similar to verses in some of Tupac's songs.2Pac got the alias "Makavel" from a 16th century Italian philosipher named Nicolas Machiavelli. Machiavelli wrote 3 books: The Art of War, Discourses Upon the First Ten Books of Titus Livy, and "The Prince". 2Pac had supposedly read Machiavelli's books several times. In Discourses Upon the First Ten Books of Titus Livy, Machiavelli writes that "a prince who wishes to achieve great things must learn to deceive". In "Makaveli the Don Killuminati The 7 Day Theory" it says Exit:2pac, Enter: Makaveli. Is the only way for 2Pac to live the life he wants to deceive his enemies by faking his own death and living on as the unseen<br /><br />Some say that Tupac modified the Machiavelli name because if you rearrange the letters, they spell, "Am Alive," or, "I Am Alive."<br /><br />Machiavelli's books were called, "Book 1," and, "Book 2." The CD's of, "All Eyez On Me," are entitled the same<br /> <br /> :icon_e_surprised:
<br />My understanding of a hologram is that it is projected onto a back drop, which appears to be the case in the Japanese videos just posted, and is what is explained in this article.<br /><br /> It's impressive but not nearly as convincing as the Tupac one. Not convinced.<br /><br />Also, it appears that this was a 'surprise.' However, costs for the 'hologram' were estimated to be in the hundreds of thousands. Poor marketing, I would suggest. And now they're talking a 'tour' with the hologram? And what about the 'estate of...'? Do they get some kind of say and/ or share in this venture? Can I make a hologram of Elvis and go on tour? <br />
<br /><br />Nope! Didn't watch the Vocaloids! They're projected in 3D, onto like a CLEAR sheets in the center of the stage, same way as "Tupac," so is all fake. The Vocaloids have been in the semi-round, I believe.<br /><br />As for a hologram of Elvis? You'd have to consult his Estate for an agreement, you can't just do things like that without permission, nor without paying them!
Okay, forgot this type of projection - you'll see a row of lights at the bottom of the stage, because it's the way they did the Madonna & Gorillaz Grammy show: <br /><br />I love how they bring the character on the left up like a puppet, out of thin air, so cool! And there you have it: advanced 3D. Did you all know, that was NOT the real Madonna that interacted with the Gorillaz!? SHE WAS NOT REAL - SHE WAS VIRTUAL, LIKE TUPAC!! :thjajaja121:<br /><br />Here's the article - enjoy: Musion Eyeliner System was the holographic projection technology behind the 3D animation of the popular animated band Gorillaz, who performed 'live' at the Grammy Awards 2006. What's even more surprising is that the Eyeliner System also re-created a virtual Madonna, who performed her hit single Hung up on the same 3D stage.<br /><br />"Both the live and TV audiences who watched the performance had no clue that what they were watching at least in the first few minutes of Madonna's performance was just virtual reality.<br /><br />The Grammys performance was a variation on the MTV Europe Music Awards in Lisbon, with the added attraction of a virtual superstar. Yes, that's right. The Madonna you saw on stage with Gorillaz at the Grammys was a virtual as her cartoon counterparts. However, the rappers from De La Soul who came onstage were, in fact, the real deal.<br /><br />The Eyeliner System produces images of high resolution and quality that make them unmistakably real, which is what happened when Madonna performed the opening number at the Grammy Awards."<br /><br />The shape of things to come, people - the shape of things to come - and no one even noticed!!
I LOVE LOVE LOVE Pac....and I am just as certain that he is alive as MJ is or Elvis for that matter....this might be a hologram, but I think he did 'perform', I mean the voice and movements he did...I believe....<br /><br />.....I hope you come back Pac...miss you <br /><br /> :bearhug:
<br />Okay, forgot this type of projection - you'll see a row of lights at the bottom of the stage, because it's the way they did the Madonna & Gorillaz Grammy show: <br /><br />I love how they bring the character on the left up like a puppet, out of thin air, so cool! And there you have it: advanced 3D. Did you all know, that was NOT the real Madonna that interacted with the Gorillaz!? SHE WAS NOT REAL - SHE WAS VIRTUAL, LIKE TUPAC!! :thjajaja121:<br /><br />Here's the article - enjoy: Musion Eyeliner System was the holographic projection technology behind the 3D animation of the popular animated band Gorillaz, who performed 'live' at the Grammy Awards 2006. What's even more surprising is that the Eyeliner System also re-created a virtual Madonna, who performed her hit single Hung up on the same 3D stage.<br /><br />"Both the live and TV audiences who watched the performance had no clue that what they were watching at least in the first few minutes of Madonna's performance was just virtual reality.<br /><br />The Grammys performance was a variation on the MTV Europe Music Awards in Lisbon, with the added attraction of a virtual superstar. Yes, that's right. The Madonna you saw on stage with Gorillaz at the Grammys was a virtual as her cartoon counterparts. However, the rappers from De La Soul who came onstage were, in fact, the real deal.<br /><br />The Eyeliner System produces images of high resolution and quality that make them unmistakably real, which is what happened when Madonna performed the opening number at the Grammy Awards."<br /><br />The shape of things to come, people - the shape of things to come - and no one even noticed!!<br />
<br /><br />Now I'm really irritated. Do you mean Cirque could have gotten a dancing talking real life looking Michael hologram instead of that 1 minute wavey projection? VERY disappointing. :Pulling_hair:<br />
Certainly Cirque COULD have, but chose NOT to. The hologram in CIRQUE looked like the ghost of a hologram to me. And what does THAT say????<br /><br />I am no aficianado of hip-hop (but like alot of it)---but Let me ask another question: Any significance in Snoop wearing a sequenced glove? Just asking...................
<br />Certainly Cirque COULD have, but chose NOT to. The hologram in CIRQUE looked like the ghost of a hologram to me. And what does THAT say????<br /><br />I am no aficianado of hip-hop (but like alot of it)---but Let me ask another question: Any significance in Snoop wearing a sequenced glove? Just asking...................<br />
<br /><br />I think that's of more relevance - the glove.<br /><br />As for cirque, their hologram reminds me of the movie, The Illusionist.<br /><br />Cirque really couldn't do the Eyeliner hologram because, well, the cost is prohibitive other than short stints; you also CANNOT directly interact with them! You can be in front of it, but too much jumping around mal-aligns the lasers. See the lights under the figures? That's why they had to create the "Madonna" 3D figure to interact with Gorillaz! You can't interfere with the projection, or the illusion is blown.<br /><br />As of the "Tupac," other than showing off how good they were at "skinning" the tats onto the 3D figure "congrats to my fellow artists for that!" The rest was of poor quality; it was repetitive, and his feet kept sliding an awful lot, lol.
<br />Certainly Cirque COULD have, but chose NOT to. The hologram in CIRQUE looked like the ghost of a hologram to me. And what does THAT say????<br /><br />I am no aficianado of hip-hop (but like alot of it)---but Let me ask another question: Any significance in Snoop wearing a sequenced glove? Just asking...................<br />
<br /><br />I think that's of more relevance - the glove.<br /><br />As for cirque, their hologram reminds me of the movie, The Illusionist.<br /><br />Cirque really couldn't do the Eyeliner hologram because, well, the cost is prohibitive other than short stints; you also CANNOT directly interact with them! You can be in front of it, but too much jumping around mal-aligns the lasers. See the lights under the figures? That's why they had to create the "Madonna" 3D figure to interact with Gorillaz! You can't interfere with the projection, or the illusion is blown.<br /><br />As of the "Tupac," other than showing off how good they were at "skinning" the tats onto the 3D figure "congrats to my fellow artists for that!" The rest was of poor quality; it was repetitive, and his feet kept sliding an awful lot, lol.<br />
<br /><br />The glove! OMG, who was even looking at Snoop when everyone's eyes were on Tupac! <br /><br />There have been conflicting reports (surprise!!!) in the media as to whether this was a projection or a hologram, 2D or 3D and even what company was responsible for the hologram. <br /><br />Here's what CBS News had to say about it.<br /><br />Tupac Coachella hologram: Behind the technology - Tech Talk - CBS News<br /><br />
AV Concepts was charged with projecting the image of Tupac on the stage. Nick Smith, the company's president, told MTV it took several months of planning and four months of studio time to create the hologram. Smith declined to comment on the price of the project, but said a comparable project would cost from $100,000 to $400,000.<br /><br />Shakur's image was fully digital, El Ulbrich, chief creative officer of Digital Domain told the Wall Street Journal.<br /><br />"This is not found footage. This is not archival footage. This is an illusion," Ulbrich told the Journal. "This is just the beginning. Dre has a massive vision for this."<br /><br />Although the perception was of a 3D likeness of Shakur, the image was actually a 2D image. Shakur's likeness was projected onto an angled piece of glass on ground, which in turn projected the image onto a Mylar screen on stage.<br /><br />"Utilizing the Musion Eyeliner system, the 302 x 132 screen was customized by AV Concepts to descend onto the stage in mere seconds between sets of the performance to bring the infamous, deceased singer back to life," AV Concepts said on their website. "The most critical technical element was AV Concepts' proprietary Liquid Scenic server that delivered uncompressed media for 3 stacked 1920 x 1080 images, delivering 54,000 lumens of incredibly clear projected imagery."<br /><br />The Musion Eyeliner system they're talking about is a product of Dimensional Studios and "is an open system that uses a specially developed foil in reflecting images from high-definition video projectors, making it possible to show holograms of variable sizes and distinct clarity created using a proprietary software. The entire system consists of a truss box and a stage, where the virtual picture appears."
Major award-winning pop-rock band, Tokio Hotel, wowed thousands of fans when they collaborated with Musion to create the world’s first ever virtual tour. The band was transformed into 3D holograms, allowing them to transmit spectacular live performances across seven countries in Europe. The eye-popping performances were a resounding success, scoring hundreds of thousands of hits on YouTube as something never seen before.
<br /><br />I bolded what I think is the key. They projected images of a REAL CONCERT with REAL PEOPLE, not digitized likenesses.
the hologram of 25 y.o. Tupac, that looks rather like 40 y.o., <br />wearing boots released a year ago, shouting 'WTF Coachella?!'<br />which first time took place in 1999, meantime Tupac had died in 1996 -- <br />actually, there is nothing odd here. At all. <br /><br />is it me or he/it is not as much tattooed as Tupac was? probably designers <br />tried to save on tattoos to make very realistic crotch movements, lol. <br /><br />
<br /><br />We've been traveling on this wavy road<br />Long time til I be take off this load<br />But we ride, ride it like a bullet<br />Hail Mary, Hail Mary<br />We won't worry everything will come real<br />Free like the bird in the tree<br />We won't worry everything will come real<br />Yes we free like the bird in the tree<br />We running from the penitentiary<br />This is the time for we liberty<br />Hail Mary, Hail Mary
I haven't posted yet on this thread, but I am still under the SHOCK effect and I've read all your comments.... for now all I can say is that I am grateful to God for allowing me to exist and live in these AWESOME tIMES !!<br /><br /> 2PAC is MIND BLOWING in that hologram / 3D (!?) IT'S REALLY AMAZIIIIING WHAT HAPPENSSSSSSSSSSSS ... I've never really investigated his "death", but from what I've read so far, I can't exclude the possibility that he's alive too! <br /><br /><br />It's been a long time since I've listened to HipHop, though I LOVE it!<br /><br /><br />I've found the full show ............ <br /><br />Dr Dre and Snoop Dogg Coachella 2012 ( FULL ) - YouTube<br /><br />
Perhaps the best thing to emerge from all this? The fact that somebody is tweeting on behalf of Tupac’s ghostly visage. Not only that, but he’s picking up right where the late Shakur left off back in 1996. The highlight so far: “So Puffy is Diddy now? Why this n—- always give himself names that sound like venereal disease symptoms?” Picture him trollin’!
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In an interview, Digital Domain’s chief creative officer Ed Ulbrich drove home the fact that the hologram was a fresh creation and not simply a projection of found footage. “To create a completely synthetic human being is the most complicated thing that can be done,” Ulbrich said. “This is not archival footage. This is an illusion. This is the beginning. Dre has a massive vision for this.”
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<br /><br />We've been traveling on this wavy road<br />Long time til I be take off this load<br />But we ride, ride it like a bullet<br />Hail Mary, Hail Mary<br />We won't worry everything will come real<br />Free like the bird in the tree<br />We won't worry everything will come real<br />Yes we free like the bird in the tree<br />We running from the penitentiary<br />This is the time for we liberty<br />Hail Mary, Hail Mary