<br />ugh! There were no workers, aliens bulled the pyramids and all the amazing ancient structures around the world, there were no Jesus, and no Moses. Hell doesn't exist, all the characters in bible were extra-terrestrials and aliens created our physicality. the end <br /><br />Alex Collier - Radio Interview - Coast to Coast AM - 1998 | Alex Collier<br />
<br /><br />Your better off saying Jesus and Moses (especially Jesus) were ordinary people than to say they NEVER existed.<br />
<br /><br />They DONT EXIST! THE ROMANS CREATED THEM<br />
<br />There's a difference of opinion and stright up ignorance, how could the Romans create Moses whose teachings predate the empire. There's more evidence to support the existance of Jesus as a human being than there is to support the existance of Plato and Alexander the great. You can be an Atheist and be knowledgable enough to know Jesus "existed".
ugh! There were no workers, aliens bulled the pyramids and all the amazing ancient structures around the world, there is no Jesus, and no Moses. Hell doesn't exist, all the characters in bible were extra-terrestrials and aliens created our physicality. the end
<br /><br />I actually agree with you on several points, although Jesus n Moses may well have existed, and ET's may simply have shared technology with humans in some instances, while doing the actual building in others, and I think those details are probably irrelevant to the argument, I just really wish you hadn't taken such a combative tone.<br /><br />What's wrong? Are you frustrated with the hoax? Bad day? What's up?<br /><br />I do wonder if the Myan's calendar points to when their sky gods are expected to return to earth. Considering the light years they would have to travel, it's quite possible. Though there may be a base on the dark side of the moon we aren't being told about. In any case, I'm looking forward to 12/21/12 for several reasons.<br /><br />But still, your anger bothers me. Please take a breath and try again because you might spark some interesting conversation here.<br /><br />Although, I won't allow you to attack TS. Period. He hasn't done a single thing to you so take a step back.<br />
<br /><br />If you believe Jesus did exist that's fine, but don't expect him to save you! I am angry because I'm frustrated and i am a human being. As for TS, no he hasn't done anything to me, but TS needs tell the real truth and he isn't doing it.<br />
<br /><br />I bet if I evangelized Christianity to you you'd be offended. Yet you feel the need to say that? :icon_rolleyes:
<br />And the flood only occurred because the stupid aliens were having sex with earth women, so the gods (aliens) wiped them out. And yes some of the Hy-brids did survived. That's the truth, don't like it, bite me i don't care, but TS needs heat check before spewing bull-crap. i can't believe Michael chose this fool to be his "truth seeker" if Michael wants us to know the truth he needs to hire some body who knows how the rabbit hole goes deepER (with a capital ER) because what TS is saying, is the same damn thing that media, and earth religions has been saying for years and its boring me. i just can't wait till the truth really comes out on a global scale.<br />
<br /><br />they were actually apostate angels NOT ALIENS and the HYBRIDS nephlim did not survive. i encourage you to 'do your research' to coin an expression<br /><br />aliens, thats one thing (not that i believe in them persay) but even so, if they were / are real are not 'Gods Aliens'<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />
<br />don't like it, bite me i don't care<br />
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<br />believe Michael chose this fool<br />
<br /><br /><br />really? come on, please show some :smiley_abuv:<br /><br />personally i sometimes struggle with some of the TS stuff (still wrapping by brain around it) and there are other members who flat out don't believe, yet these members are able to maintain dignity and disagree politely or avoid such threads altogether<br /><br /><br />please change your attitude. it sux!<br />
<br /><br />some of them did survived, and some of them were fully blood aliens and some were hy-brids. i think you need to do more research. And yes the gods were aliens, they played god because the ancient people thought they were gods.<br />
<br /><br />How can you say Moses and Jesus never existed yet you believe alien hybrids played God? That only supports Biblical teachings.
ugh! There were no workers, aliens bulled the pyramids and all the amazing ancient structures around the world, there is no Jesus, and no Moses. Hell doesn't exist, all the characters in bible were extra-terrestrials and aliens created our physicality. the end
<br /><br />I actually agree with you on several points, although Jesus n Moses may well have existed, and ET's may simply have shared technology with humans in some instances, while doing the actual building in others, and I think those details are probably irrelevant to the argument, I just really wish you hadn't taken such a combative tone.<br /><br />What's wrong? Are you frustrated with the hoax? Bad day? What's up?<br /><br />I do wonder if the Myan's calendar points to when their sky gods are expected to return to earth. Considering the light years they would have to travel, it's quite possible. Though there may be a base on the dark side of the moon we aren't being told about. In any case, I'm looking forward to 12/21/12 for several reasons.<br /><br />But still, your anger bothers me. Please take a breath and try again because you might spark some interesting conversation here.<br /><br />Although, I won't allow you to attack TS. Period. He hasn't done a single thing to you so take a step back.<br />
<br /><br />If you believe Jesus did exist that's fine, but don't expect him to save you! I am angry because I'm frustrated and i am a human being. As for TS, no he hasn't done anything to me, but TS needs tell the real truth and he isn't doing it.<br />
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believe Michael chose this fool
<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />And you're the owner of truth and why you come here to tell you stupid and insulting to another person<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />
<br />ugh! There were no workers, aliens bulled the pyramids and all the amazing ancient structures around the world, there is no Jesus, and no Moses. Hell doesn't exist, all the characters in bible were extra-terrestrials and aliens created our physicality. the end <br /><br />Alex Collier - Radio Interview - Coast to Coast AM - 1998 | Alex Collier<br />
<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Off-topic:<br /><br />Why individuals David Icke, Alex Jones, Alan Watt, continue by there and have a lot of success and popularity while researchers like Fritz Springmeier, William Cooper, Rik Clay, Karla Turner etc. end up in jail or killed?<br /><br />You can quietly wait for that 98% of the informants that are supposedly against the New World Order, are agents working for this. What is called controlled opposition ( "If you want to control the opposition, the best way is to have a leader.")<br /><br />Excerpt TAKEN FROM "bloodlines OF THE ILLUMINATI" BY FRITZ SPRINGMEIER : "There are several types of desinformadores agents: agents of influence (or creators of public opinion), Agents of confusion, of contract, the "sleepers" (Sleeper), Desinformador, notion, provocateurs, Spoon-Fedders (which give you new information with a dropper.)<br /><br />They are called SPOON-FEEDER AGENTS that provide little new information, tons of secrets and already known something of disinformation to add fun to the matter. Usually the Spoon-Feeders increase their percentage of disinformation once earn respectability."
@Souza, thanks for posting that interesting info about the moon. <br /><br />@iammjbeliever, you say TS needs to "tell the truth", I'm confused, what do you think that truth looks like? Do you have any specifics of what TS wrote that isn't the truth? You're being too general in your words for anyone to grasp what you're trying to communicate.<br />
A lot of interesting posts in here right now... Good job everyone! I really appreciate you all and I love logging in to read what you all have to say. <br /><br />A big :bearhug: to you all.<br /><br />And of course, a big thank you to TS for being awesome as usual. Love your bible studies! :beerchug:<br /><br />Also, I really liked your precision regarding this topic:<br /><br />
<br />"So if four billion people are ready at the end of the world, then four billion will be saved; and if four people are ready at the end of the world, then four will be saved. Most likely, it will be more than four and less than four billion."<br />
<br />And the flood only occurred because the stupid aliens were having sex with earth women, so the gods (aliens) wiped them out. And yes some of the Hy-brids did survived. That's the truth, don't like it, bite me i don't care, but TS needs heat check before spewing bull-crap. i can't believe Michael chose this fool to be his "truth seeker" if Michael wants us to know the truth he needs to hire some body who knows how the rabbit hole goes deepER (with a capital ER) because what TS is saying, is the same damn thing that media, and earth religions has been saying for years and its boring me. i just can't wait till the truth really comes out on a global scale.<br />
<br /><br />Boy, is this guy up for a surprise or what?? :icon_lol:<br /><br />Well... Sometimes I just go like this: :icon_rolleyes: The ignorance....<br /><br />Is this guy even serious? I think not...
"So if four billion people are ready at the end of the world, then four billion will be saved; and if four people are ready at the end of the world, then four will be saved. Most likely, it will be more than four and less than four billion."
<br /><br />I guess I'm confused right now. <br />Saved spiritually, meaning the souls are saved and ready to do to haven, or saved physically, meaning they won't be harmed?? Both meanings are possible!
<br />Well let's give iammjbeliever a chance to explain him/herself and define his/her stance before assuming.<br />
<br /><br />ROFLOL, as if she didn't have that chance in a hundred posts already. She's offensive and her attitude is FAR from respectful. This is not the first time this happens so she gets 1 last chance to change her attitude in general, or she can find a new forum to post on.
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
<br />If you believe Jesus did exist that's fine, but don't expect him to save you! I am angry because I'm frustrated and i am a human being. As for TS, no he hasn't done anything to me, but TS needs tell the real truth and he isn't doing it.<br />
<br /><br />Now, okay.. I also believe to know what is true, or "the truth" if you so want. But is your truth the same as my truth? And can there be many truths? Isn't the truth an "absolute"? And if so, now which one is it? Yours or mine?
<br />If you believe Jesus did exist that's fine, but don't expect him to save you! I am angry because I'm frustrated and i am a human being. As for TS, no he hasn't done anything to me, but TS needs tell the real truth and he isn't doing it.<br />
<br /><br />Now, okay.. I also believe to know what is true, or "the truth" if you so want. But is your truth the same is my truth? And can there be many truths? Isn't the truth an "absolute"? And if so, now which one is it? Yours or mine?<br />
<br /><br />Agree with your approach Jono.<br />Your truth, my truth, THE truth....not so easy now, is it?
<br />I guess I'm confused right now. <br />Saved spiritually, meaning the souls are saved and ready to do to haven, or saved physically, meaning they won't be harmed?? Both meanings are possible!<br />
<br /><br />In a spiritually sense, or more specifically the traditional Christian view of salvation:<br /><br />"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. - John 3:16"<br /><br />"That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. - Rom 10:9"
thing is there is only one truth, not everyone can be right.<br /><br />i'm agnostic and all i can say that i've learned is that i know nothing ...<br /><br />it's not hard to be respectful of others beliefs.<br /><br />sorry for the lack of capital letters, i spilled beer on my computer and now that key doesn't work :Crash:<br /><br />
That’s also why there is a Judgment Day. To settle all matters. Everything will be made crystal clear. Our vision will be sharpened and everybody will recognize and accept the ultimate Truth. For the time being we can all live in peace and respect each other's different beliefs.
<br />sorry for the lack of capital letters, i spilled beer on my computer and now that key doesn't work :Crash:<br />
<br /><br />Cheers then! :beerchug:<br /><br />Nah.. I'm sorry the hear about your keyboard.. :icon_e_sad: <br /><br />But still... It was kind of funny! :icon_lol:
<br />sorry for the lack of capital letters, i spilled beer on my computer and now that key doesn't work :Crash:<br />
<br /><br />Cheers then! :beerchug:<br /><br />Nah.. I'm sorry the hear about your keyboard.. :icon_e_sad: <br /><br />But still... It was kind of funny! :icon_lol:<br />
but TS needs tell the real truth and he isn't doing it.
<br />There's only one way to know if someone is telling the truth--if it happens the way he says (hindsight).<br /><br />Deuteronomy 18: (Common English Bible)<br />
Communicating with God<br />9 Once you enter the land that the Lord your God is giving you, don’t try to imitate the detestable things those nations do. 10 There must not be anyone among you who passes his son or daughter through fire; who practices divination, is a sign reader, fortune-teller, sorcerer, 11 or spell caster; who converses with ghosts or spirits or communicates with the dead. 12 All who do these things are detestable to the Lord! It is on account of these detestable practices that the Lord your God is driving these nations[c] out before you.<br />13 Instead, you must be perfect before the Lord your God. 14 These nations you are displacing listened to sign readers and diviners, but the Lord your God doesn’t permit you to do the same! 15 The Lord your God will raise up a prophet like me from your community, from your fellow Israelites. He’s the one you must listen to. 16 That’s exactly what you requested from the Lord your God at Horeb, on the day of the assembly, when you said, “I can’t listen to the Lord my God’s voice anymore or look at this great fire any longer. I don’t want to die!”<br />17 The Lord said to me: What they’ve said is right. 18 I’ll raise up a prophet for them from among their fellow Israelites—one just like you. I’ll put my words in his mouth, and he will tell them everything I command him. 19 I myself will hold accountable anyone who doesn’t listen to my words, which that prophet will speak in my name. 20 However, any prophet who arrogantly speaks a word in my name that I haven’t commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods—that prophet must die.<br />21 Now, you might be wondering, How will we know which word God hasn’t spoken? 22 Here’s the answer: [size=12pt]The prophet who speaks in the Lord’s name and the thing doesn’t happen or come about—that’s the word the Lord hasn’t spoken.[/size] That prophet spoke arrogantly. Don’t be afraid of him.[d]
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<br />thing is there is only one truth, not everyone can be right.<br /><br />i'm agnostic and all i can say that i've learned is that i know nothing ...<br /><br />it's not hard to be respectful of others beliefs.<br /><br />sorry for the lack of capital letters, i spilled beer on my computer and now that key doesn't work :Crash:<br />
<br />Yes, much better to be humble and admit you can't possibly know truth 100%. But each of us is free to share what we think truth entails! <br />Oh what a mess our keyboards can be eh? :icon_lol:
<br />ugh! There were no workers, aliens bulled the pyramids and all the amazing ancient structures around the world, there is no Jesus, and no Moses. Hell doesn't exist, all the characters in bible were extra-terrestrials and aliens created our physicality. the end <br /><br />Alex Collier - Radio Interview - Coast to Coast AM - 1998 | Alex Collier<br />
<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />I get to read some statements of Alex Collier "aliens" indicate this man the plan of darkness at this time is to "Stage" the book of revelations or also called Apocalypse. If they succeed, the next step is to implement the alleged "Salvation" of humanity or what's left of it on the planet, making appear to their dark lineages as "saviors gods". It is why there is to be very careful with hauntings from naves mass, there is no external saviours, unique saviors are ourselves, anyone or anything we will come to save if we do our internal work and change of consciousness.<br /><br />As well as a change of consciousness operates in us and we began to change our lives, our environment changes as we change.<br />While there is some already done for humanity as a whole at the change of consciousness, it is still much to do.Plan of darkness is to generate chaos, immorality, through the spread of drugs, alcohol, consumption through the indiscriminate practice of sex without true love, only for pleasure of the senses, and the destruction of the ideal of family that should constitute an atom of light on the planet, because it is the instantiation of the Trinity in the Earth.<br /><br />Dogmas and religions have been created on purpose to carry out this plan and so try to stay with the planet who are the false gods and the elite or false royalty, the "secret government"<br /><br />If you only believe in the good, love, if I choose such a scenario. It can "Catch" or "Reflect" to my around and available to all, so ensues the great change that we are waiting to happen, otherwise we plunge in a horror scenario and that is what sucks the plan of darkness to dominate the planet and humanity that may remain standing.<br />The choice is ours. We lose nothing by reading that book that we know as Bible
im not going to argue with anyone, no point, everyone has the right to choose what they want to believe. The world is doomed anyway and of course people don't do anything about it. Most people rather sit in front of their computers desk and eat cheese burgers.
<br />Adi, Yes I noticed that the date of release of Bad25 was close to Roshashanah also. I was just listening to some videos by David Flynn. He talks about astrology and the Zodiac and the procession of the equinox. Maybe that's something else we should pay attention to. Maybe the "stars" will be lined up to where they need to be on September 18. I'm talking about the signs of the Zodiac. <br /><br />Love You<br />
<br /><br />Yes - it's really interesting. I wonder if anything of significance will happen on those upcoming dates of the Festivals. I was thinking of going back in "hoax" time and checking the various Jewish Festival dates to see if they line up with anything that happened "hoax wise" the past 3 years or more.<br />
<br /><br />Yes, Adi that thought crossed my mind also but I haven't had the time to do it yet. The signs of the Zodiac and the constellations have meaning also. More than I thought. There are also references using the constellations in the bible. The brightest star was out when Jesus was born, that's the star Sirius. Well, I guess I found another rabbit hole to get into. These symbols of astrology are referred to alot by the TPTB. You hear about the serpent,Phoenix,lion etc. The sphinx in Egypt was built to line up with the stars. It's positioned perfectly. The pyramids in Egypt are also lined up perfectly with a constellation. It may be Orion. I don't know this astrology but now I want to get this information. I think we're missing this piece of the puzzle. The stars are also a part of the world clock.<br /><br />Love You All <br /><br /> <br /><br />
Look what Jermaine just tweeted, reminded me of a post on the previous page.<br /> ( TIAI July 17 )<br /><br />Jermaine Jackson<br />@jermjackson5<br /> thank the vast majority of you for your messages of love and support. The bullcrap of speculators and deflectors is just background noise<br />6:23 PM - 20 Jul 12 via web<br /><br /><br /><br />Coincidence or thread being read?<br />
<br />Look what Jermaine just tweeted, reminded me of a post on the previous page.<br /> ( TIAI July 17 )<br /><br />Jermaine Jackson<br />@jermjackson5<br /> thank the vast majority of you for your messages of love and support. The bullcrap of speculators and deflectors is just background noise<br />6:23 PM - 20 Jul 12 via web<br /><br />Coincidence or thread being read?<br />
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"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."