The change must begin with the human being, not with the outward structure. The human being is confused, the human being is conditioned. He believes, and therefore there is a contradiction in himself. He is really, deeply confused and if he wants to change the social structure, the change from confusion only breeds more confusion. Whereas, if he could bring about clarity within himself, and from that clarity act, then such an action is really a deep psychological revolution. That revolution is absolutely necessary.”<br /><br />~ Jiddu Krishnamurti
<br /><br />Actually those articles could be quite telling. The cbs article - it is true that Obama/the White House never issued a formal statement on MJ's death whereas they normally would for someone of Michael's stature. I know Obama commented on MJ's 'death' but I remember it was worded awkwardly or something. Obama not releasing a statement is reminiscent of UCLA not releasing a statement. Hmmm, there could be something there...<br />
<br /><br /><br />yeah i have looked and can't find it but it seems there was a statement made by him that michael was a " conflicted individual" . sorry but to my mind that is just a nice way of saying he was fucked up. jmo i know i could be wrong but. >:(<br /><br />edit: so i found this blog on reasons why being conflicted can be good , so i have to reason that most use it in a negative manner. but now i am conflicted :-[ :icon_rolleyes: wish i could find that video and check up on myself. :Pulling_hair:<br /><br /><br />http://8pmwarrior.com/2011/08/reasons-why-conflicted-is-good-for-your-life-and-organization/<br /><br /><br />editing myself again :LolLolLolLol: if he did mean this in a negative sense it doesn't really say that much about the allegations of the past as it might about some before hand knowledge of those resently leaked e-mails. maybe?<br />
<br /><br />I found a couple, were either of these what you were looking for? I don't hear "conflicted individual" but he mentions "difficulty in his private life" and "sad and tragic."<br /><br />He also says "Like Elvis..." LOL. But he hedges around saying anything about MJ actually dying.<br /><br /><br /><br />
<br /><br />Actually those articles could be quite telling. The cbs article - it is true that Obama/the White House never issued a formal statement on MJ's death whereas they normally would for someone of Michael's stature. I know Obama commented on MJ's 'death' but I remember it was worded awkwardly or something. Obama not releasing a statement is reminiscent of UCLA not releasing a statement. Hmmm, there could be something there...<br />
<br /><br /><br />yeah i have looked and can't find it but it seems there was a statement made by him that michael was a " conflicted individual" . sorry but to my mind that is just a nice way of saying he was fucked up. jmo i know i could be wrong but. >:(<br /><br />edit: so i found this blog on reasons why being conflicted can be good , so i have to reason that most use it in a negative manner. but now i am conflicted :-[ :icon_rolleyes: wish i could find that video and check up on myself. :Pulling_hair:<br /><br /><br />http://8pmwarrior.com/2011/08/reasons-why-conflicted-is-good-for-your-life-and-organization/<br /><br /><br />editing myself again :LolLolLolLol: if he did mean this in a negative sense it doesn't really say that much about the allegations of the past as it might about some before hand knowledge of those resently leaked e-mails. maybe?<br />
<br /><br />I found a couple, were either of these what you were looking for? I don't hear "conflicted individual" but he mentions "difficulty in his private life" and "sad and tragic."<br /><br />He also says "Like Elvis..." LOL. But he hedges around saying anything about MJ actually dying.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />
<br /><br /><br /><br />thanks for trying. almost seems like that first one could have been the setting and the part i am thinking of just didn't make it into the clip. if my brain made it up i can't for the life of me figure out why it made up that particular statement :-\ :screaming-7365:
Thanks for the interesting articles, Sarahli and Suspicious, and videos Andrea!<br /><br />UYI, reading your link, it appears that subconsciously at least, the election is very much about race, and not politics. True opinions are coming out, just from reading the comments below it—whites want blacks to go back to Africa or shut-up, and blacks want revenge for wrongs against them by whites. This truly could get ugly and violent, since anger has been seething under the radar since slavery days. Michael talked a lot about the unfair treatment in the music industry.<br /><br />In the video of Obama talking about drones, he sounds like someone who is just doing his job as he’s told, and hasn’t seen firsthand the carnage. I really believe ALL people high up in politics, or media, television, HAVE to say what they’re told or allowed by TPTB, at that particular time, or they will lose their high standing and will be dropped. I don’t think Oprah was ALLOWED to say anything positive about MJ back around 2005, but now it’s okay for the press to be somewhat positive again about MJ, now that he’s ‘dead’. So if Obama wants to stay in power and somehow ‘make a change’, he has to fake or look like he’s following orders. <br /> <br />In the first video, Obama, “Michael Jackson is…” Present tense!<br />
It's that time of month again when we elect our leader who represents us in national and foreign affairs I don't have a political affiliation and no one can influence my thought but maybe I can show you what I believe I believe both parties democrat and republican have great ideals and flaws 4 years ago when Obama was elected into office I remember watching the election with my siblings and my dad as he said history is being made he was speaking of the first African American president however he was also speaking about how 1 man like Obama could change the nation it is my personal belief that Obama has reformed the United States for the better he has tried to change many plans but certain political parties have stopped him this one man has brought the economy back or be is at least bringing it back from a mess the previous president he wasn't given an easy job but he did it to help his country I'm not patriotic but I want to help the country I live in if I could vote I'd vote OBAMA 2012 I am no different from you who is reading this my dad is black and my mom white with a bunch of other races I am 15 and a male those are tributes that describe me as myself but I'm a human just like you I love I hate I laugh I cry I bleed and I can die Obama has been focusing on peace(or at least stopping a 10 year war) I understand without war we wouldn't know peace but Romney believes in military action my dad believed in peace not just peace but WORLD PEACE Obama is just one human just like me or you but he's made a difference to this country and others yes he is the president but we can help him by re-electing him for president let's bring the world together to some of you this tweet is nothing that's ok but to some maybe it hits home and Romney I am not one of your 47% I am a human who believes he knows what's right and I believe Barack Obama is right for America so let's make Obama a trending topic and our president for another 4 more progressive years#obama2012
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<br /><br />I like the maturity of Prince and MJ misunderstood unless Obama also, also thinks he can change the world, that matches what we have seen of MJ in his lyrics and his infinite peace messages.<br />"I am not different from you who is reading this my dad is black and my mom white with a bunch of other races" is speaking in present tense!<br />Great, thanks Prince <br />
<br /><br /><br />Totally agree with you friends !! :bearhug:
He tweeted it last Nov 8th:<br /><br />Prince Jackson @princemjjjaxon<;br />I hope they make 50 more James Bond movies so good#skyfall<br /><br />Ok prince jackson mentions James Bond movie sky fall in a tweet.. and did you know James Bond faked his death in that movie!!...hmm.<br /><br />In the 50th year of James Bond film James Bond 07 fakes death. Michael Jackson Fake death at 50th year, that's why Prince is saying that he hopes they make 50 more James Bond movies.<br /><br />BTW Javier Bardem is the antagonist of this movie, he is spanish from Madrid and I have been eating next to him and Penelope Cruz and when I was a teen I was dancing next to her in a disco-bar :icon_lol:
<br />He tweeted it last Nov 8th:<br /><br />Prince Jackson @princemjjjaxon<;br />I hope they make 50 more James Bond movies so good#skyfall<br /><br />Ok prince jackson mentions James Bond movie sky fall in a tweet.. and did you know James Bond faked his death in that movie!!...hmm.<br /><br />In the 50th year of James Bond film James Bond 07 fakes death. Michael Jackson Fake death at 50th year, that's why Prince is saying that he hopes they make 50 more James Bond movies.<br /><br />BTW Javier Bardem is the antagonist of this movie, he is spanish from Madrid and I have been eating next to him and Penelope Cruz and when I was a teen I was dancing next to her in a disco-bar :icon_lol:<br />
<br /><br />yeah also 50 shows for TII ... too coincidental. :icon_mrgreen:
<br />He tweeted it last Nov 8th:<br /><br />Prince Jackson @princemjjjaxon<;br />I hope they make 50 more James Bond movies so good#skyfall<br /><br />Ok prince jackson mentions James Bond movie sky fall in a tweet.. and did you know James Bond faked his death in that movie!!...hmm.<br /><br />In the 50th year of James Bond film James Bond 07 fakes death. Michael Jackson Fake death at 50th year, that's why Prince is saying that he hopes they make 50 more James Bond movies.<br /><br />BTW Javier Bardem is the antagonist of this movie, he is spanish from Madrid and I have been eating next to him and Penelope Cruz and when I was a teen I was dancing next to her in a disco-bar :icon_lol:<br />
<br /><br />yeah also 50 shows for TII ... too coincidental. :icon_mrgreen:<br />
[size=17pt]Evening guys ... Didn't post since forever..<br />So it's Prince's birthday<br />Of course most of you guys have already seen this tweet <br />
/><br />Does any of you agree that these mistakes are not typos !! " He was and is " ??<br />Also " The gift of Live "?? or Life !<br />Any ideas or does it seem normal ? <br /><br />PS : it's 9:58 PM :thjajaja121:[/size]
I always like the present tense when it is used :icon_e_biggrin:<br /><br />One thing I find odd is how he mentions that TJ and his grandmother are guardians. I know that each of them are the children's guardians but to refer to them as such is odd to me.<br /><br />Why not just say my cousin TJ and my grandmother? That whole thing with Katherine being kidnapped and TJ being appointed made me wonder about a lot of things and still does.<br /><br />What is significant about 9:58?<br /><br />The tweet posted to twitter at 11:59 PM. I believe twitter is on the Eastern Time Zone.<br /><br />EDIT:<br /><br />Prince Jackson ✔ @princemjjjaxon ; <br />Follow <br />Before I turn 18 tomorrow I really <br />11:59 PM - 12 Feb 2015 <br />1,472 Retweets 2,109 favorites <br /><br />11+5+9 = 25/2 + 5 = 7<br /><br /><br /><br />Love you Michael!
Reminds me of Joe's interview when he was recently in the Dominican Republic. He specifically said that Michael is just like him to this day plus other present tense statements then he catches himself and smiles. Gotta love Joe :th_bravo:
"he give me the gift of live", isn't the right way to say it "he gave me the gift of life"? Replacing a with i? And when we add the missing a to "live".. it makes "alive" :icon_cool:<br /><br />so between the lines: "my dad is alive"<br /> :icon_razz:
<br />I always like the present tense when it is used :icon_e_biggrin:<br /><br />One thing I find odd is how he mentions that TJ and his grandmother are guardians. I know that each of them are the children's guardians but to refer to them as such is odd to me.<br /><br />Why not just say my cousin TJ and my grandmother? That whole thing with Katherine being kidnapped and TJ being appointed made me wonder about a lot of things and still does.<br /><br />What is significant about 9:58?<br /><br />The tweet posted to twitter at 11:59 PM. I believe twitter is on the Eastern Time Zone.<br /><br />EDIT:<br /><br />Prince Jackson ✔ @princemjjjaxon ; <br />Follow <br />Before I turn 18 tomorrow I really <br />11:59 PM - 12 Feb 2015 <br />1,472 Retweets 2,109 favorites <br /><br />11+5+9 = 25/2 + 5 = 7<br /><br /><br /><br />Love you Michael!<br />
<br /><br />9:58 must = August 1958. That's when Michael was born :omg:
Exactly Smook that's what I meant 9:58 PM was 1958 The year he was born in !!<br />August is the 8th month .. correct , I think it's not about the month though , So it's all about the year "1958" .. <br />--one thing i learned from this forum is there is no room for coincidence--<br />@iamhere4mj did the numbers which led us to a Seven.<br /><br /> :moonwalk_:<br /><br />
<br />Exactly Smook that's what I meant 9:58 PM was 1958 The year he was born in !!<br />August is the 8th month .. correct , I think it's not about the month though , So it's all about the year "1958" .. <br />--one thing i learned from this forum is there is no room for coincidence--<br />@iamhere4mj did the numbers which led us to a Seven.<br /><br /> :moonwalk_:<br />
<br /> <br />Agree with you Rouxie. This is just a Michael's clue ,as always, to read between the lines as he has accustomed us to do.... :icon_razz:<br />And this time is not even hard to understand... :icon_razz:
Seriously guys, I don't want to sound harsh but there's 'reading between the lines' and there's just plain making stuff up out of nothing. I don't see why anyone still wants or needs stuff like 9:58 to mean 1958, or 'live' (instead of 'life') to mean 'alive' ... after all this time, really - are you still looking for 'clues'?
With Prince turning 18 and growing up into a wonderful, intelligent young man, I am sure Michael is very proud. And rightly so. You did good Dad and happy birthday to Prince.<br />Just read this excerpt from Tom Mez about Michael and his children and ask that you all forgive me for stretching the topic a little to fit this in. <br /><br />☆ Tom Meserau talks about Michael and his children:<br />"I used to go to Neverland before the trial and a few times during it and I had a very unique opportunity to watch Michael with his children. And even though he wanted to shield them from that dreadful experience he was going through it was obvious to me that they sensed something was going on with their father. And the day of the acquittals I went to Neverland. I was invited to a world press conference and I decided not to go – I felt I really belonged to Neverland with Michael. And I went to Neverland, was in his house and I saw his children just hugging all over him. And he told them who I was and they came over and each one gave me a hug. It was a very unique day.<br />I always had the very strong believe based on my observations and my feelings about Michael that he was the greatest father that ever lived. He lived for his children, he wanted them to be protected from any possibility of danger, or kidnapping or anything like that... He did the very best he could have done. He wanted them highly educated. He made sure they were well read, that they understood that he had an enormous book collection. He wanted them to know about every subject. He took them around the world to expose them to other cultures. He wanted them to be very accepting towards all ethnic groups, religious groups, races, cultures... He wanted them to be humane and kind and sincere like he was. And my expression of his children was that they had the most greatest father on the planet; sensitive, kind and honorable. <br />He disciplined them as well. He was not going to let them to just run amok. But he wanted them to appreciate the world as it is, to be aware of its dangers and to be very well read and well educated. He did the very best he could do, given the pressures on him and he was a wonderful father. And I think those children are just fabulous." <br />(Blog Talk Radio, Feb. 2015 )<br /><br />
<br />Seriously guys, I don't want to sound harsh but there's 'reading between the lines' and there's just plain making stuff up out of nothing. I don't see why anyone still wants or needs stuff like 9:58 to mean 1958, or 'live' (instead of 'life') to mean 'alive' ... after all this time, really - are you still looking for 'clues'?<br />
<br /><br />For me, it isn't about being given clues anymore for us to believe that Michael is alive but more to tell us that the believers are still right and that we shouldn't let go.<br /><br />Have you ever noticed that when there hasn't been any news something is 'leaked' or stated that doesn't make sense?<br /><br />Michael is still watching and he knows we are still here. I like to think he's giving us a thumbs up when these incidents happen.<br /><br />Love you Michael!
<br />Seriously guys, I don't want to sound harsh but there's 'reading between the lines' and there's just plain making stuff up out of nothing. I don't see why anyone still wants or needs stuff like 9:58 to mean 1958, or 'live' (instead of 'life') to mean 'alive' ... after all this time, really - are you still looking for 'clues'?<br />
<br /><br />For me, it isn't about being given clues anymore for us to believe that Michael is alive but more to tell us that the believers are still right and that we shouldn't let go.<br /><br />Have you ever noticed that when there hasn't been any news something is 'leaked' or stated that doesn't make sense?<br /><br />Michael is still watching and he knows we are still here. I like to think he's giving us a thumbs up when these incidents happen.<br /><br />Love you Michael!<br />
<br /><br />I agree with you. For me, its not about finding anything necessarily. But sometimes I wonder if we missed something. Sometimes I wonder if we missed the big "AHA" moment or clue. I agree that as soon as everything gets quiet, we get something else again in the media. Tom Mesareau radio interview about MJ last Friday the 13th; this new mafia book coming about about Frank Dileo stopping the mafia hit on MJ; Prince Michaels tweet; Titos "shout out" to Pearl Jr on Twitter, etc. All happening in the same week.<br /><br />I do think Mike is watching. I hope he knows that we love him very much :-*
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