So O-Bee signed with Universal / Vivendi and not with Sony.<br />Vivendi headquarters are in Paris.<br />"Vivendi" means "living" and is usually used in the expression "ars vivendi" or "modus vivendi" - "art of living".<br /><br />EMI recorded music operations were acquired by Universal Music Group / Vivendi.<br />EMI catalog was acquired by Sony / ATV.<br />Motown Records is already part of UMG.<br />Motown catalog is part of EMI catalog, now Sony / ATV.<br /><br />Thinking that Michael is working with both UMG and Sony / ATV to re-unite what belongs together - more correct lets the companies work for him - is this thinking far enough "out of the box"?
You have me thinking now @ellyd. It reminds me of something BACK said in his prophetic "Of a tHeOrY or Vision".......which was......<br /><br />I could always 'see' a silhouette on a Grand - stage, once again taking over the world. Perhaps also parallel in holding to our proclamation that this was NOT a comeback, but a take - over.
<br />So O-Bee signed with Universal / Vivendi and not with Sony.<br />Vivendi headquarters are in Paris.<br />"Vivendi" means "living" and is usually used in the expression "ars vivendi" or "modus vivendi" - "art of living".<br /><br />EMI recorded music operations were acquired by Universal Music Group / Vivendi.<br />EMI catalog was acquired by Sony / ATV.<br />Motown Records is already part of UMG.<br />Motown catalog is part of EMI catalog, now Sony / ATV.<br /><br />Thinking that Michael is working with both UMG and Sony / ATV to re-unite what belongs together - more correct lets the companies work for him - is this thinking far enough "out of the box"?<br />
<br /><br />Mhm....you know I love the "righting wrongs" part of the hoax. It´s such a vital aspect.<br />But I really think that we should not forget about the business aspect of it all. <br />Michael is a very clever businessman. Always has been and always will be. <br />The hoax, a productive hiatus....What a great opportunity to do business "behind the curtain"...I mean like really do great and future-oriented business. <br />Use all his knowledge and skills and yeah....take over (thanks RK for mentioning that).
I think Obee's lyrics hold more for us than just great entertainment value. Time for me to pay more attention to the detail and lyrical content of Obee's work I think. <br />
<br /><br />Yes true @RK, look at "See the Light" lyrics:<br /><br />[size=12pt]The controversy turned me to a loose cannon<br />and the media think that they can do damage[/size]<br />But I'm a satellite surfer<br />Computer virus, move up your cursors<br />I had 9 lives, haters 8 mine<br />[size=12pt]I fly away precise, it's escape time[/size]<br />I flow 7 fold never climaxing<br />[size=12pt]My 6th sense is like 5 Jacksons[/size]<br />I'm 4 sure, I used to fall short<br />[size=12pt]but why be alarmed, 3rd time's a charm[/size]<br />I'm 2nd to none, prepare to get stunned<br />Young O-Bee I'm the 1<br /><br />ps: BTW what's the meaning of "see the light" maybe something like: come on go out see the light and BAM once and for all! :icon_lol:<br />
<br /><br />Is that some sort of a count down?<br />
<br /> :penguin: <br /><br />Ellyd, love your thinking outside the box!<br />Sim, that's why when Stan Lee said that Michael was not a good business man I got very suspicious. Donald Trump said that Michael was very smart and a good business man. He said that MJ stayed with him in the same building for 6 months, and they often talked business/financial things. MJ had many books on this topic as well. <br />Imagine-- music catalogues and recordings, superheroes for entertainment, media manipulated behind the scenes (maybe TMZ and RTL and more).
Vivendi's headquarter phone no. in Paris: <br /><br />01 71 71 10 00<br /><br />Address:<br />42, Avenue de Friedland 75008 Paris, France<br />(8th arrondissement / Champs Elyssées district, very close to Place de l'Etoile / Arc de Triomphe)<br /><br />Building no. 42 was a city residence for banker James de Rothschild in early 20th century but the building was destroyed later.<br />Today there is a well-groomed garden on top of the new building's roof which is quite an exceptional occurence in Paris.
That "out of the box" thinking is great - keep it up!!<br /><br />When I see the comments and "Paris" is in the mix it makes me think of the new DVD that is supposed to be Wembley Stadium yet it's been proven that part of it is from the Paris show.<br /><br />By the way - I absolutely love how MJ supporters/fans are able to know when something isn't right and I love how they know his concerts and even videos as though it were their wedding. I highly doubt there is any other fan base so devoted that they know this kind of information (except maybe Elvis fans). As most of you know I wasn't a fan pre d**th day so I am seriously impressed by it all because I think that even without the hoax those details would have been caught by MJ's loyal and true.<br /><br />Blessings to you.
<br />[...]<br />By the way - I absolutely love how MJ supporters/fans are able to know when something isn't right and I love how they know his concerts and even videos as though it were their wedding. I highly doubt there is any other fan base so devoted that they know this kind of information (except maybe Elvis fans). As most of you know I wasn't a fan pre d**th day so I am seriously impressed by it all because I think that even without the hoax those details would have been caught by MJ's loyal and true.<br />[...]
<br /><br />I don't know for other artists... but I've been around online communities of fans of other artists, like Patricia Kaas, France Gall, Michel Berger, Celine Dion .... and I can assure you that those fans also know every single detail about their fav artists...like what gestures they make after certain lyrics during live concerts, clothing details, make up details... they also know by heart certain parts of interviews.... <br />But Michael seems to have the largest, worldwide fan base still very active (believers and non believers included) even 4 years after he allegedly died....<br />I am also impressed by the Elvis fans community!! Jesus! there are SOOOO many (all ages) and SOOO passionate and united/organized, they're all over the place... YT, myspace, facebook, also plenty of sites and forums!! plenty of fans gatherings all over the world, even though he never got the chance to concert in those countries!! plenty of tribute concerts!! plenty of sosies!! it's really impressive!! For an artist who died (allegedly) 35 years ago... oh my! Elvis ROCKS more than ever!!
<br />[...]<br />By the way - I absolutely love how MJ supporters/fans are able to know when something isn't right and I love how they know his concerts and even videos as though it were their wedding. I highly doubt there is any other fan base so devoted that they know this kind of information (except maybe Elvis fans). As most of you know I wasn't a fan pre d**th day so I am seriously impressed by it all because I think that even without the hoax those details would have been caught by MJ's loyal and true.<br />[...]
<br /><br />I don't know for other artists... but I've been around online communities of fans of other artists, like Patricia Kaas, France Gall, Michel Berger, Celine Dion .... and I can assure you that those fans also know every single detail about their fav artists...like what gestures they make after certain lyrics during live concerts, clothing details, make up details... they also know by heart certain parts of interviews.... <br />But Michael seems to have the largest, worldwide fan base still very active (believers and non believers included) even 4 years after he allegedly died....<br />I am also impressed by the Elvis fans community!! Jesus! there are SOOOO many (all ages) and SOOO passionate and united/organized, they're all over the place... YT, myspace, facebook, also plenty of sites and forums!! plenty of fans gatherings all over the world, even though he never got the chance to concert in those countries!! plenty of tribute concerts!! plenty of sosies!! it's really impressive!! For an artist who died (allegedly) 35 years ago... oh my! Elvis ROCKS more than ever!!<br />
<br /><br />Impressive I had no idea as this is the first forum I've ever joined. I'm learning so much! :icon_bounce:
I think we should be following Obee. I have been following him on twitter for a while now. <br /><br />The very first time I read the lyrics in specific the sattlelite surfer / cursor line, I thought of online personas such as TS, Front amongst others.<br /><br /><br />Also I am sure I have seen one of the Jackson kids, (prior to 25/06) wearing these masks (no, not getting confused with the V mask)<br /><br />But also all the white masks create the notion of anonymity. Seems fitting. MJ's position right now, this side of Bam.<br /><br /><br />Also "see the light"...aka... "see the truth"<br /><br />
Thanks finfin I love seeing behind the scenes, take a screenshot when writing a message<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Says: Obee? was love kids .... the last part if not J-RW? I do not know what is. Any suggestions?<br />
Oh my gosh, I can't believe it. I can watch the Musicvideo, but the "Behind the Sence" Video is blocked <br />by UMG here in Germany. How crazy is that. Please UMG could you be so kind and unblock it, I want to see<br />it too.<br /><br />Much Peace and Love to everyone.
I’m wondering why the baby carriage. Is MJ’s hoax/ARG the baby? Sort of like the expression, ‘the elephant in the room’, being the obvious thing that everyone’s ignoring. So on the surface of the hoax there are masked participants with some lifting them revealing themselves, and those with their eyes covered over, or not wanting to see the truth, which has already been mentioned. So going with that I'm thinking the underground railway reminds me of secrecy and hiding (black slaves escaped for freedom via the 'underground railway'). MJ may be in hiding underground figuratively or literally, and keeping up with everything by computers (O-bee smashes). (Remember the movie "Unstoppable" the train 777.) As I watch this behind the scenes (and the official video) I can’t help wondering, how can he manage the obvious huge budget for this. I’m guessing hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not a million or two. Maybe a little MJ cash maybe? :icon_e_wink: <br /><br />Just thought I'd post some screenshots.<br /><br />Notice the guy in front of the poster on the right in the Behind the Scenes - "Knowing Imagination Determines Success KIDS". I think he's the same as the mysterious thin dancer in the last two -- Official video, just has the red shirt tucked or not showing. Very MJish.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />
<br />I think we should be following Obee. I have been following him on twitter for a while now. <br /><br />The very first time I read the lyrics in specific the sattlelite surfer / cursor line, I thought of online personas such as TS, Front amongst others.<br /><br /><br />Also I am sure I have seen one of the Jackson kids, (prior to 25/06) wearing these masks (no, not getting confused with the V mask)<br /><br />But also all the white masks create the notion of anonymity. Seems fitting. MJ's position right now, this side of Bam.<br /><br /><br />Also "see the light"...aka... "see the truth"<br />
<br /><br />Can you please give me the link of his twitter account I sometimes read one that is not verified so IDK if it is real or not, thanks in advance.
<br />I’m wondering why the baby carriage. Is MJ’s hoax/ARG the baby? Sort of like the expression, ‘the elephant in the room’, being the obvious thing that everyone’s ignoring. So on the surface of the hoax there are masked participants with some lifting them revealing themselves, and those with their eyes covered over, or not wanting to see the truth, which has already been mentioned. So going with that I'm thinking the underground railway reminds me of secrecy and hiding (black slaves escaped for freedom via the [size=14pt]'underground railway')[/size]. MJ may be in hiding underground figuratively or literally, and keeping up with everything by computers (O-bee smashes). (Remember the movie "Unstoppable" the train 777.) As I watch this behind the scenes (and the official video) I can’t help wondering, how can he manage the obvious huge budget for this. I’m guessing hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not a million or two. Maybe a little MJ cash maybe? :icon_e_wink: <br /><br />Just thought I'd post some screenshots.<br /><br />Notice the guy in front of the poster on the right in the Behind the Scenes - "Knowing Imagination Determines Success KIDS". I think he's the same as the mysterious thin dancer in the last two -- Official video, just has the red shirt tucked or not showing. Very MJish.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />
<br /><br />Underground railways can be related to the underground tunnels between MJ's 100 n Carolwood and Elvis' 144 Monovale Carolwood we were talking about or the underground tunnels that we thought there might be in Neverland. <br />About the Michaelish man with the black mask is not Michael you just have to take a glance of his hands to realize is not him.
Omer Bhatti @RealOBee<;br />that is if i ever grow up tho #K4L<br />Expand Reply Retweet Favorite<br />____________________________________<br />29m Omer Bhatti @RealOBee<;br />when i grow up i wanna be a director<br />Expand Reply Retweet <br /><br />Another Peter Pan that wants to be director or the other way around, I love it, LOL!
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