<br />Just googled "Michael Jackson is still alive" to see if any new news came up. Saw this quote from Jermaine saying this hoax talk helps noone and Michael is not alive. Not necessarily a bad thing. Think of how many times Jermaine has willingly and effectively lied throughout this whole thing. And it actually draws more attention to the idea. Oh here's the link to what I read. http://www.legendarymichaeljackson.nl/?p=5012<br />
<br /><br />[size=14pt]Jermaine Jackson statement to fans: Michael is not alive[/size]<br /><br /><br /><br />The following statement was made by Jermaine Jackson on Twitter today:<br /><br />“I hadn’t wished to address this, because I find it hard to accept that people think this way, but it saddens me to read tweets that believe Michael is still alive. He is not. Pls stop hurting yourselves with this false belief.<br /><br />I have compassion for those whose denial misinforms them, but this increasing hoax talk is wrong and helps no-one. love you all”<br /><br />sources : Legendary MJ, Jermaine Jackson<br /><br /><br />BTW correct me if I am wrong but there is none of that in Jermaine's twitter, check it out:<br /><br />https://twitter.com/jermjackson5<br />
<br /><br />SymPattyK<br />
That is an old statement from 2011<br /><br /><br />Love that advert above Jermaine's head :animal0017:
<br /><br />Furthermore how come Jermaine is saying Michael is not alive and appears smiling on that pic? hmmmm, is it a joke? Yes I think so.
<br /><br /><br />Furthermore how come Jermaine is saying Michael is not alive and appears smiling on that pic? hmmmm, is it a joke? <br />
<br /><br />I know huh. Can't take anything he says seriously with that smile!<br /><br /><br />For those who hadn't seen that before, that statement is nothing to worry about. It simply wasn't find to reveal hoax then and he was attempting to appease suspicions and make us look crazy because hoaxers were joining dots so thoroughly. Not time for hoax to escalate to a general public level, so released the statement.
<br /><br /><br />Since December 21st and December 22nd seem to pass by without any significant happening, despite all the CLUES hinting to them as possible BAM dates, I was just thinking... that maybe we could really take into consideration the fact that maybe BAM will happen according to @TS's own deadline: "By January 1st, 2013". <br /><br />Which means somewhere [ "close to midnight" :icon_geek: ] between December 31st and January 1st.<br /><br />We also had some @Front- clues about a possible BAM at New Year's Eve! <br />@Wishingstar and I have discussed it at that time... And I also made this montage below... <br />What do you guys think?<br /><br /><br />
Are the BAM and Michael's return the same thing? Is it possible that the BAM is happening as we speak but we are looking only for Michael's return when we should be looking elsewhere? <br /><br />Would Michael's return really shake the world to its core? WE think so, but Michael thinks bigger. He thinks impossible. <br /><br />No, I think there is a hoax going on that makes his death hoax look like child's play. :affraid:
@curls: Why not guessing? It's fun and way better than fighting....<br />Or maybe we should leave all the forum? Is that better?<br /><br />On the other hand... we're doing more than just guessing, we're analyzing all the clues and possibilities available so far.
<br />Are the BAM and Michael's return the same thing? [...]
read that TS quote about his deadline. He mentions this twice: "MJ will BAM" and "BAM from MJ".<br />Then we have been discussing all this time about the PURPOSE of this hoax and about the fact that what comes AFTER the BAM is of UTMOST IMPORTANCE for Michael and us as his "Army of LOVE". So yes, it definitely is about Michael returning and "leading the way" :moonwalk_: for a better world
<br />Are the BAM and Michael's return the same thing? [...]
read that TS quote about his deadline. He mentions this twice: "MJ will BAM" and "BAM from MJ".<br />Then we have been discussing all this time about the PURPOSE of this hoax and about the fact that what comes AFTER the BAM is of UTMOST IMPORTANCE for Michael and us as his "Army of LOVE". So yes, it definitely is about Michael returning and "leading the way" :moonwalk_: for a better world<br />
<br /><br />I don't think we disagree and perhaps I should restate what I was trying to convey. What if Michael's return is part, perhaps the centerpiece, of the BAM. What if the BAM has begun, as we hoped, but we have not yet seen it because it's rather subtle at the moment, like the faint sound of music in the background.
@Sim....yes I remember that crystal ball talk......it always intrigued me......if ever the world was watching something, a New Year's countdown would be a world event....didn't TS mention BAM would be in the California time zone? <br />I do think it's impossible to figure when or how BAM will occur.....<br />It seems like what the Bible says about end of times in Matthew:<br /><br />"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."<br /><br />Blessings
<br />Are the BAM and Michael's return the same thing? [...]
read that TS quote about his deadline. He mentions this twice: "MJ will BAM" and "BAM from MJ".<br />Then we have been discussing all this time about the PURPOSE of this hoax and about the fact that what comes AFTER the BAM is of UTMOST IMPORTANCE for Michael and us as his "Army of LOVE". So yes, it definitely is about Michael returning and "leading the way" :moonwalk_: for a better world<br />
<br /><br />I agree with you and I agree that the clock hinting Dec 21st was maybe just pointing out the change of an era would happen so he would be able to BAM to help for a better world before Jan 1st 2013 as per TS.
@Sim....yes I remember that crystal ball talk......it always intrigued me......if ever the world was watching something, a New Year's countdown would be a world event....didn't TS mention BAM would be in the California time zone?
Yesss.<br />Also I think that the Front's clock may be showing the tIME! not the date as we interpreted so far.<br />So instead of December 21st , maybe the clock is really showing us the TIME [hour, minutes] when he BAMs --> 12:21. Which also makes me think about "It's not the END , it's the BEGINNING", meaning: The "END" of his life [911 call - 12:21] meant the BEGINNING of the death hoax and NOW the END of the death hoax on [we can assume] January 1st, 2013 at 12:21 is the new BEGINNING ! <br /><br />
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I do think it's impossible to figure when or how BAM will occur.....
I agree.<br />But I like trying...<br />Just sitting and waiting and doing nothing would kill me! lol :icon_lol:<br /><br /><br /><br />
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Are the BAM and Michael's return the same thing? [...]
read that TS quote about his deadline. He mentions this twice: "MJ will BAM" and "BAM from MJ".<br />Then we have been discussing all this time about the PURPOSE of this hoax and about the fact that what comes AFTER the BAM is of UTMOST IMPORTANCE for Michael and us as his "Army of LOVE". So yes, it definitely is about Michael returning and "leading the way" :moonwalk_: for a better world
I don't think we disagree and perhaps I should restate what I was trying to convey. What if Michael's return is part, perhaps the centerpiece, of the BAM. What if the BAM has begun, as we hoped, but we have not yet seen it because it's rather subtle at the moment, like the faint sound of music in the background.
Ok, I see what you mean now. Yes you may be right.<br />And in what way do you see this subtle background of the BAM that has already begun? I mean how can we distinguish it? Or what makes you think that way? Did we ignore some signs / clues and that's why we can't see ?<br /><br /><br /><br />
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I agree with you and I agree that the clock hinting Dec 21st was maybe just pointing out the change of an era would happen so he would be able to BAM to help for a better world before Jan 1st 2013 as per TS.
Yes I think that's a good explanation to WHY we've received so many hints about December 21st! The END of a world and the BEGINNING of a new better one.<br /><br />What still puzzles me is why TS mentioned in one of the Signs that we won't grow old, referring thus to a possible future cataclysm ending all our lives. I still can't say whether it was just a metaphorical meaning or a literal, biblical one.
@Sim....yes I remember that crystal ball talk......it always intrigued me......if ever the world was watching something, a New Year's countdown would be a world event....didn't TS mention BAM would be in the California time zone?
Yesss.<br />Also I think that the Front's clock may be showing the tIME! not the date as we interpreted so far.<br />So instead of December 21st , maybe the clock is really showing us the TIME [hour, minutes] when he BAMs --> 12:21. Which also makes me think about "It's not the END , it's the BEGINNING", meaning: The "END" of his life [911 call - 12:21] meant the BEGINNING of the death hoax and NOW the END of the death hoax on [we can assume] January 1st, 2013 at 12:21 is the new BEGINNING !
<br /><br />TS said the BAM will happen before the end of 2012 though. But I do agree that New Year's countdown is very plausible. Just pondering about the misspelt 'Momment' in Front's drawing. It has to be on purpose... This is probably very far fetched, but 2 'm's made me think about 'Man in the Mirror', so I wondered it the clock is meant to be read inverted (horizontally), which would be around 11.39. Maybe that's around the time that BAM happens, but this line of reasoning is far fetched even for me. If the hoax is in California time, then is there a countdown event that's huge in CA? The crystal ball event is the one in NYC right?<br /><br />Anyway, the 22nd isn't the end for CA yet... so BAM might still happen today
<br />TS said the BAM will happen before the end of 2012 though. But I do agree that New Year's countdown is very plausible. Just pondering about the misspelt 'Momment' in Front's drawing. It has to be on purpose... This is probably very far fetched, but 2 'm's made me think about 'Man in the Mirror', so I wondered it the clock is meant to be read inverted (horizontally), which would be around 11.39. Maybe that's around the time that BAM happens, but this line of reasoning is far fetched even for me. If the hoax is in California time, then is there a countdown event that's huge in CA? The crystal ball event is the one in NYC right?<br /><br />Anyway, the 22nd isn't the end for CA yet... so BAM might still happen today
Interesting idea about the double M [intentionally misspelled] and the Man in the Mirror! and the mirrored image of the clock! wow!<br /><br />I'm not sure, but I remember that there were some discussions about Front's misspelling when he posted that clock and someone said that the misspelling was some "code" that linked Front to Back who also misspelled words intentionally. So the double M was some sort of confirmation that Front is in fact Back or related to him.<br />Someone who knows better, pls correct me if I'm wrong.<br /><br />It would be great if BAM happens today!! :icon_bounce:<br /><br /><br /><br />
Aurelian established December 25 as the birthday of the INVINCIBLE SUN in the 3d century as part of the Roman Winter Solstice celebrations.<br /><br />In 273 the Christian church selected this day to represent the birthday of Jesus, and by 336 this Roman solar feast day was Christianized.<br /><br />Ancient men feared the darkness for it was personified death to them. In the absence of light from the Sun man was vulnerable to bad things.<br /><br />We get the term "the devil" from this concept as the Ancients connected the ideas of "evil" and "darkness" together. Dark + evil = devil.<br /><br />Sun, the provider of light, security, safety, heat, and photosynthesis and the abundance of food stuffs was the Savior of the Ancients.<br /><br />So for primitive man Dec. 22 was the start of winter and marked the beginning of the worst stage of his yearly struggle for survival.<br /><br />Primitive men believed the Sun had died as they could detect no movement of the Sun in the sky for 3 days. Solstice means 'a turning point'.<br /><br />The early pre-Christians established rituals concerning this period: the sun lays in a grave for 3 days, but then shall be resurrected.<br /><br />When the pre-Christians wrote of the resurrection of the Sun, they meant exactly that. It did not refer to a person, but to the Solar Sun.<br /><br />Later Gentile ancestors had changed the Sun to Son. The priesthood told the pagans the SON (Christ) was born on Dec 25, just like their SUN.<br /><br />So most of the customs, symbols & rituals associated with Christmas actually are linked to Winter Solstice celebrations of ancient Pagans.<br /><br />"The sun will rise again, bigger and brighter, emblazoned in gold…like a beacon whose physical existence was provisionally "extinguished"…but never forgotten. Those "flames" are the heart of the passionate inferno of resurgence that awaits....<br /><br /><br />... Just as the Earth is sure to rotate on its axis, the resurrection of a true King will indeed proclaim Hi(s)Story…and the truth shall be heard in ALL corners of the Earth. Momentarily, the world will quake, for there will be a cosmic shift in "dogma"."<br /><br />/ Front /<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />
Anyone else think BAM could be Christmas Day with this link to the sun I've posted above?<br /><br />Plus I remember the Christmas decorations and reefs at the house and neverland remember?<br /><br />Maybe 22nd is the start of a new dawn and era but Michael<br />comes back on 25th Dec Christmas Day?
Gotta do it......Juke Box, you had mentioned you thought "momment" must have been spelled that way for a reason.....<br />Gematria game time:<br /><br />93 = momment = "end of days", "light being", poster, Nazareth, crucifix, tonight, seventh, Angel Gabriel, Louvre, thankful....and Wacko Jacko (sorry) <br /><br />Crazy coincidental stuff.......I don't know what to think about it all anymore. I have posted so many of these....yes, words are just words...they will match things. But when things like "Wacko Jacko" match.....I have to pause and go .......WTFoosball is going on here???????<br /><br />Great stuff here...TS, Front feel free to jump in and call me crazy.......I am sure you are way too busy however...the holidays are an important family time. I have always felt that even if Christmas is not celebrated outright as Jesus' birth time, it's a natural time of reflection upon one's life and family. My Jewish grandmother loved this time of year for the lights, the sounds, the happiness in the air......<br />(sadly that happiness is diminishing :icon_e_sad:)<br />May you be blessed always TS & Front...whoever you are. <br /><br />Blessings Always
It is an assumption that the watch clock says 12:21. There's no numbers on the clock. But if we add numbers like a conventional clock, the position of the hour hand indicates more like 11:20-something rather then 12:00-anything. The conventional clock TS posted shows this when the watch clock is compared to it side-by-side, thank you Sim.<br /><br />But again, with no numbers, assigning the watch clock a conventional time hours:minutes requires an assumption. What it literally shows is the "hour" hand pointing to Day and the "minute" hand pointing just past halfway between Future and Night. So what "time" is that? To me that's "this evening" if I had to guess anything. <br /><br />Maybe the point is that time, as we define it, is just a mankind-given quantification for the rotation of the Earth. And it's not even a very good one, since we have to add [something like] 0.3 seconds each year to stay in step with mother nature. In all our glory... the best we can do is still 0.3 seconds off her perfection.<br /><br />And the point is forget time, enjoy the moment. I think "momment" is just a typo, as MJ typo'ed this at least once before, at least a sample of his "verified" handwriting misspelling "momment" was posted here on the forum. We all have words we tend to misspell. I have several that I stubbornly misspell every time I use them, thank goodness for spell check. You all would be appalled if I didn't have it. So if I hand write something I'm in trouble, then all the personal typos come out.
@Bec: great observations and interesting comments about TIME! :icon_e_wink:<br />For some reason I still think "moMent" was an intentional misspelling, though...
I don't think it's a random typo.<br />Expression of speaking it out loud to make the meaning visible.<br /><br />"mommment" is short <br />whereas "moooment" is long.<br /><br />This effect is called "onomatopoeia" and this word has indeed its roots in Greek.<br /><br />
Although in the English language the term onomatopœia means the imitation of a sound, in the Greek language the compound word onomatopœia (ονοματοποιία) means "making or creating names".
<br />Source: wiki<br /><br />Creating names.<br />I'd say we've seen many created names, expressions and connotations on the way.
<br />Gotta do it......Juke Box, you had mentioned you thought "momment" must have been spelled that way for a reason.....<br />Gematria game time:<br /><br />93 = momment = "end of days", "light being", poster, Nazareth, crucifix, tonight, seventh, Angel Gabriel, Louvre, thankful....and Wacko Jacko (sorry) <br /><br />Crazy coincidental stuff.......I don't know what to think about it all anymore. I have posted so many of these....yes, words are just words...they will match things. But when things like "Wacko Jacko" match.....I have to pause and go .......WTFoosball is going on here???????<br /><br />Great stuff here...TS, Front feel free to jump in and call me crazy.......I am sure you are way too busy however...the holidays are an important family time. I have always felt that even if Christmas is not celebrated outright as Jesus' birth time, it's a natural time of reflection upon one's life and family. My Jewish grandmother loved this time of year for the lights, the sounds, the happiness in the air......<br />(sadly that happiness is diminishing :icon_e_sad:)<br />May you be blessed always TS & Front...whoever you are. <br /><br />Blessings Always<br />
Thank you Wishy! It is indeed STUNNING what this Gematria analysis can bring out! :icon_eek:<br />
I didn't say I thought it was random. I agree it could be intentional. I said it's a word MJ was known to misspell at least once. That is all. Draw your own conclusion.
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