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  • wildswilds Posts: 198
    This is hands down one of the very best threads I have had the honor of reading! Thank you all for sharing your thoughts, your feelings, your dreams... it is truly touching! Look how Michael has brought us together, in love and in truth. I can't even express how happy I feel about this <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> ! I really think it's time for all to realize how beautiful and special we really are. We have to banish fear and replace it with our FAITH and with L.O.V.E! It takes courage but it it can be done. I love you all and GOD bless always!
  • hopefully things in the USA will begin to change now there is a black president who would have thought that this would happen a few years ago


    I am not sure about that. He has a wife that wears $500 sneakers to a charity event and has 22 personal assistants to the tune of 2 million plus.
  • I am not sure about that. He has a wife that wears $500 sneakers to a charity event and has 22 personal assistants to the tune of 2 million plus.

    yeah shasta that is what the people against the president want you and all of us to focus on.....we have to remember that the first lady had a very profitable job way before Obama was a candidate so she can easily afford that....is not always gonna be on our part......and don´t forget about our former president bush....he traveled non stop so this is not only an Obama thing......i think the change is not because he is black but the change is because is about a president with current ideas that a lot of americans share...remember America is not only those people on polls or the ones that watch fox/cnn/msnbc/etc etc
  • sweet1sweet1 Posts: 312
    and look at the price MJ paid <!-- s:cry: -->:cry:<!-- s:cry: -->

    Yes! MJ paid a great price but what I admire most about him is that he never forgot his humble beginnings. Many concerts he did over the years all profits went to charity. There will never be another Michael Jackson King of Pop and humanitarian of such a vast magnitude. I just hope and pray that he is safe wherever he is located. Keep the Faith!
  • 2nd post because I have to add, we say a lot of things about Jermaine, and we poke a lot of fun, but this was a touching speech. He stood up there and spoke not only for Michael and Michael's reputation and legacy but also to America's youth. Jermaine has a positive message here and you can hear the love in his voice. Jermaine chose to speak out and give back and reach out. If one kid hears this and it speaks to them then it was worthwhile.

    Please listen to what I have to say. Please read this entire post.

    One thing we, yes WE, lose site of, the Jackson family came from very humble beginnings in Gary, Indiana. They truly are the American dream. A poor black family living in a tiny (TINY) house in the murder capital of the US, a derelect town, surrounded by gangs and violence and crime.... Joe shepherded that family to a better life, and if it wasn't for him.... for JOE, we may never have known Michael.

    This is Michael's home in Gary. Think about this. Think about growing up here and what it took to become the Michael Jackson we know from these beginnings. Next time you diss Joe, and say hateful things about him, remember that he took his family from here to where they are now. There are 100 million Black families in America living in homes just like this one:
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    Michael's life could have easily taken a very different path. It happens every day. It happens more often then not. Those who have never been to Gary may never be able to understand. Michael's story is amazing. He came from poverty to rise to the greatest heights of a world icon. Not just a pop star but a global figure. And he never lost track of his roots, he never forgot to give back, he never turned his back on his community. He NEVER walked away and left it behind.

    You can go to Gary but you better be careful. Google search it if you're unfamilier. Gary, Indiana is the murder capital of the country. If you are white your best advice is to not stop within the town limits. Not even at red lights. The police may pull you over for running the light but only to tell you the fastest route out of town. It is a dangerous place to be lost in. 50% of the town is abandoned and burned out. Derelect buildings rise to touch the horizon of a town that once was but will never be again. The average income of a Gary family is about $12,000 a YEAR. Crime is rampant. People are killed on the streets. Women are raped in the back alleys. Drugs are sold out in the open in parking lots. Homeless live in the many abandoned buildings. Don't venture outside of your vehicle unless it is to pay tribute to the King of Pop. People are poor and desperate. They live among burned out shells of homes and businesses because there simply is no money, nor will to clean them up. It is heart breaking. All this within site of the Sears Tower in bustling downtown Chicago. The town has been forgotten, discarded, and ignored. Why? Because the Blacks moved in and the Whites fled. They fled the town and took their money and influence and split and never looked back. Worse they sought revenge. Revenge by condemning the town politically and economically.

    I urge everyone to research Gary. It is a nationwide shame.

    Black America is in crisis. There is a systematic, imbedded culture of racism in this country. If the Jackson family had been white, I don't believe they would be subjected to the criticism that they are. I don't believe they would be the butt of cruel jokes and scrutinization of their every move and word. America loves to see a black man fall from grace. If the Jackson's had been a white family they would have been championed and held up as a shing example of what hard work and perseverance can accomplish. They would be reveared as heros and a model for the rest of us. Michael scraped out an existance for himself that was on top of the world. Is accomplishments, and that of the entire family made him a target in this country. Eyes need to be opened. We need to recognize the ugly truth. Racism is alive and well and it drives this entire campaign of hate against Michael. Racism drives the campaign of hate in this country. It touches all corners of life here, like a cancer. Even our President suffers it's affects. Racism is a disease and it threatens the future of the free world.

    We need to make a change. Speak out against hate. Speak out against discrimination in all it's forms. You can do your part. One voice makes a difference. Sometimes one voice is all it takes to turn the tide of perception. Let it be yours.

    Well
    whatever color our creator gave us: tears shed by people are all the same kind of salty and all blood is red---until otherwise proven! We should never allow ourselve to be a racist, every individual has that power over him/herself. Emily Hutjes.
  • OyanOyan Posts: 24
    Good post 'bec'/Nov 26. I for one thought that Michael Jackson of all Black Americans, would be immune from thinly veiled racism, but boy was I wrong! I had not paid much attention to what was going on with him, because basically, I said he's Michael Jackson, the biggest celebrity, most well loved entertainer in the world; he does'nt need me, and besides, he's got all the support he needs. He has 'transcended' race lol! uh, nope. Oh the horror. Talk about a wake up call.
  • This is great in someways. But as a Michael Jackson Fan, I already knew that he did not do what everyone in the world believe in the media. His fans stood behind him 100 %. My theory of all that has happen is the "If you are not there to see what actually happen in Michael home then you can say anything", get it. How, can you pass judgement on someone if you were not there. I am so happy that his name is being cleared of so much wrong done to him. I cannot wait till he return. I do beLIEve.

    LOVE & PEACE
  • DatrootDatroot Posts: 1,314
    Michael is one of the best loved entertainers in the UK, and since I first got to know him in 1970, I have always thought of him as just Michael Jackson - not a black entertainer - colour has never come into the equation - he is just a fastastic showman, singer, entertainer - and a wonderful man.
  • I am not sure about that. He has a wife that wears $500 sneakers to a charity event and has 22 personal assistants to the tune of 2 million plus.

    yeah shasta that is what the people against the president want you and all of us to focus on.....we have to remember that the first lady had a very profitable job way before Obama was a candidate so she can easily afford that....is not always gonna be on our part......and don´t forget about our former president bush....he traveled non stop so this is not only an Obama thing......i think the change is not because he is black but the change is because is about a president with current ideas that a lot of americans share...remember America is not only those people on polls or the ones that watch fox/cnn/msnbc/etc etc
    Oh he has current ideas alright...marching orders to help usher in the NWO. He will do WHATEVER and say WHATEVER to make that happen. We who supported him were lied to. Trash me if you want but no Salvator, in my opinion, President Obama is not the answer.
  • Obama...i don't know what to think of him..

    He promissed to end the war in Iran...well that didn't happen..

    I don't trust presidents...particurlaly the ones who are looking good <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) --> <!-- s:geek: -->:geek:<!-- s:geek: -->
  • meheremehere Posts: 558
    hopefully things in the USA will begin to change now there is a black president who would have thought that this would happen a few years ago


    I am not sure about that. He has a wife that wears $500 sneakers to a charity event and has 22 personal assistants to the tune of 2 million plus.


    Right! And, quite frankly, color of skin has absolutely nothing to do with it. And sadly too many people voted for color rather than quality. But this is off topic for this forum.
  • LizziebeeLizziebee Posts: 264
    This is proof, but I think even if Michael really were dead, Jermaine would have announced that. It's amazing that people are realizing how great Michael really is. And all of those old MJ fans who hate the new MJ fans need get over it! Would they rather have the new MJ fans be haters? It's a wonderful thing, and I think MJ has earned a lot more respect then he has had the past few years. And the best thing about it is he's still here to see that. :D

    You are so right! I respect, admire, and have so much love for people who've been fans for years but some of them get a little too offensive when you tell them you became a fan AFTER he "died." Forgive me if I'm wrong, but wasn't that ONE of MJ's reasons for doing all of this? I mean, he's gained a whole new generation of fans. And young and old across the globe are starting to see how amazing Michael really is. I think that's great. I mean, would you criticize someone for becoming an Elvis fan today since he died years and years ago? <3

    And these posts are fantastic. I've been reading them for the last half hour. We really do have so much hate, racism, violence, and ignorance/stupidity in this world. We must make a change within ourselves to be the very best person we can be. That way we can lead the rest of them. Shine your light, my friends. I love you all SOOO much. *Muah!*

    Michael, honey I miss you dearly. Love you MORE! <3
  • DatrootDatroot Posts: 1,314
    This is proof, but I think even if Michael really were dead, Jermaine would have announced that. It's amazing that people are realizing how great Michael really is. And all of those old MJ fans who hate the new MJ fans need get over it! Would they rather have the new MJ fans be haters? It's a wonderful thing, and I think MJ has earned a lot more respect then he has had the past few years. And the best thing about it is he's still here to see that. :D

    You are so right! I respect, admire, and have so much love for people who've been fans for years but some of them get a little too offensive when you tell them you became a fan AFTER he "died." Forgive me if I'm wrong, but wasn't that ONE of MJ's reasons for doing all of this? I mean, he's gained a whole new generation of fans. And young and old across the globe are starting to see how amazing Michael really is. I think that's great. I mean, would you criticize someone for becoming an Elvis fan today since he died years and years ago? <3

    And these posts are fantastic. I've been reading them for the last half hour. We really do have so much hate, racism, violence, and ignorance/stupidity in this world. We must make a change within ourselves to be the very best person we can be. That way we can lead the rest of them. Shine your light, my friends. I love you all SOOO much. *Muah!*

    Michael, honey I miss you dearly. Love you MORE! <3


    How do you know older fans hate newer fans? That is not a nice thing to say - I don't hate anyone and I've been a fan since 1970 - age should not be an issue (as colour should not be) - we are all MJ fans regardless of race, creed, colour or age.
  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    Datroot wrote; How do you know older fans hate newer fans? That is not a nice thing to say - I don't hate anyone and I've been a fan since 1970 - age should not be an issue (as colour should not be) - we are all MJ fans regardless of race, creed, colour or age.

    I agree that, if there are new fans, and if instead of having those selfish feelings, "no wonder this man has joined us at all? And you Attracted the attention of people who previously did not even dealing with the? <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
  • LizziebeeLizziebee Posts: 264
    How do you know older fans hate newer fans? That is not a nice thing to say - I don't hate anyone and I've been a fan since 1970 - age should not be an issue (as colour should not be) - we are all MJ fans regardless of race, creed, colour or age.

    Love,

    I don't think she meant "older" as in age. And it's not really a hate issue. I know what she means because I've come across several people's profiles on youtube/myspace etc. where someone will disrespect of belittle newer Michael fans. They give them crap for becoming a fan only after he "died." They make statements like, "I've been there for him since I was in diapers." or, "While people like you turned their back on him, I was right here all along." People like me? That's not really fair to say. I NEVER thought Michael molested those kids. Was I a fan? No. But I didn't judge the man. I looked at him as a normal human being. And he is. It breaks my heart that my parents never listened to MJ's music while growing up. These fans who were fortunate enough to have Michael in their lives since the age of 1 etc. are very blessed. They need not make "people like me" feel bad for being blinded to Michael's beauty. And the fans that usually say these things are around my age. I'm 17. Thank you maturer fans out there for leading the way, teaching respect, and realizing that Michael gaining new fans isn't a bad thing. We were all chosen to be fans/participants in this. I realize that now. I feel special. Don't you? *Muah!*

    ~ Lizzie
  • DatrootDatroot Posts: 1,314
    Lizzie you sound wise beyond your years.
  • ChanceChance Posts: 250
    Do you know what it's like to be on the outside looking in ? You feel like there is no one else in the world. I've been watching you for months now, and will continue until It's time. I love you all.. God bless <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->

    What? did I miss something ...
  • alivealive Posts: 369
    Do you know what it's like to be on the outside looking in ? You feel like there is no one else in the world. I've been watching you for months now, and will continue until It's time. I love you all.. God bless <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->


    Well, we're here and I know I'm in it till the end. For Michael. I hope it's soon <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
  • susie_23susie_23 Posts: 240
    I'll be here, too, Michael.
    You ask, "Will you be there?"
    And for you, Michael, the answer will always be a resounding "YES!"
  • Do you know what it's like to be on the outside looking in ? You feel like there is no one else in the world. I've been watching you for months now, and will continue until It's time. I love you all.. God bless <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->

    I'm patiently waiting, my friend.

    I'm sending tons of L.O.V.E. and hugs to you.
  • LizziebeeLizziebee Posts: 264
    Lizzie you sound wise beyond your years.

    Aww...Thanks darlin'. I get that a lot. Lol. <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->

    @michael toy j
    Welcome, my friend. We shall travel down this road together, hand in hand. I know I'll be here till the very end. Here, we finish what we start. Right guys? Lol <3

    It's all about love. L.O.V.E.

    ~ Lizzie
  • <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> It's really you?
    I've been waiting for you! I always knew you were watching!
    We are here for you!
    LOVE
  • MissGMissG Posts: 7,403
    did i miss something?
  • Melzy777Melzy777 Posts: 501
    I love you

    Each time the wind blows
    I hear your voice so
    I call your name.

    You know how I feel
    This thing can't go wrong
    I'm so proud to say I love you.
    Your love's got me high
    I long to get by...
    This time is forever love is the answer.

    I'LL NEVER STOP LOVING YOU.. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> God bless you all...........


    Todo mi amor eres tu <!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: --> <!-- s:P -->:P<!-- s:P --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
  • Do you know what it's like to be on the outside looking in ? You feel like there is no one else in the world. I've been watching you for months now, and will continue until It's time. I love you all.. God bless <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->

    I thought you didn't visit forums? <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> Well, hello!
    Just know you are not alone, we are here with you.
    It is a spiritual revolution, oh yeah, and we are to change the world.
    L.O.V.E.
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