New blog: Mike; victim of Illuminati & Mind Control?

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  • I think the vitiligo is a result of the drugs they gave him, but I am sure he didn't "brush it off". He is a black man and they made him a white man, even a white female. ...but your whole identity would be gone. Who are you? Who do you relate to? You would look different from your family, your siblings. Imagine that, that is not something you can 'brush off', that is something you would struggle with for the rest of your life.
    I promised myself I would stay out of this discussion because the Illuminati/Mind Control stuff has nothing relevant to do with Michael, in my opinion.

    However, since I AM black and know a thing or two about medical issues, let me just say that, first of all, nobody *gave* Michael vitiligo or caused him to have it. That suggestion is just pure science fiction and shows an enormous lack of medical knowledge.

    Likewise, nobody made Michael a "white man." That suggestion is just fiction period and shows an enormous lack of medical knowledge, as well as a disturbing lack of knowledge of issues related to cultural and racial identity.

    Third of all, having vitiligo did ***NOT*** make Michael's identity as a black man disappear or go away. Of course, he looked different and had to deal with that. But he ***NEVER EVER*** stopped being black, in his mind AND in reality. So what if he didn't look the same or like his family? He's not the only black person that has skin that light, with or without vitiligo.

    LOTS of black people don't have the same skin tone as other members of their family. LOTS of people don't look like their relatives, no matter what color they are. Yet, somehow they still manage to carry on and get along just fine, especially when they come from a strong family, as Michael does.

    Fourth of all, the "white female" comment is just ridiculous. I thought most members of this forum recognized that erroneous caricature for what it is, meaning nonsense, but now one of the owners is perpetrating it. Geesh! Michael struggled with many things his entire life, including the repercussions of uninformed comments like that.

    People have the right to think whatever they want, but I felt it was necessary to add some opposing viewpoints here lest future readers of this thread believe that every member of this forum agrees or thinks its acceptable to characterize Michael this way. I do not.
    I completely agree with you Lorrie. Without any medical background, just being a patient of a very good GP, I wonder how it is possible that people even consider to take this 'vitiligo being given to Michael' theory serious.
    Nice to know not everyone takes everything for granted just because it's well written...
    Some persistent urban legends emerged this way.
  • jilljill Posts: 917
    Mo and Souza, thanks for the post. I find it courageous that you put in print a very contraversial subject. Kudos to you both. I have been avoiding videos and information on the internet reguarding this subject, however when I saw your post last night I knew it was time to delve into it. It is hard to face things we truly don't want to address, the biggest reason being... it upsets our little world.

    Reguarding the skin lightening that Michael went thru over a period of years. I saw an interview on the net of Cher, the singer. ( I cannot remember for the life of me where!) She was talking about when she had her on show years ago how she became friends with Michael and had him perform many times on her variety show. She said they were at a party celebrating one night when an associate of Michael's made the statement to her that she would be shocked at how he would change in the next few years and become "white." This shows it was planned. If the people who are involved in the illuminati are sloppy enough to brag about their exploits, it shows that it can unravel.

    I did watch an illuminati video the other day someone had posted on the site that said that Michael's departure was planned by them. His memorial service was held on the day that the Pope announced he wanted a global governmet established to regulate the world financial system. This person that made the video believed that the Memorial was held on that day to distract the world from paying any attention to this news, as it truly refers to the New World Order. The memorial was broadcast around the world, all of our attention was focused on it and were greiving.

    In the light of this, I think it is imperative that the Hoax be exposed! When the truth is revealed it would be extremely difficult for any more harm to be done!

    All of this information is hard to digest but cannot be ignored. I myself want to take some time to do more research and truly weigh the possibilities.
  • Reguarding the skin lightening that Michael went thru over a period of years. I saw an interview on the net of Cher, the singer. ( I cannot remember for the life of me where!) She was talking about when she had her on show years ago how she became friends with Michael and had him perform many times on her variety show. She said they were at a party celebrating one night when an associate of Michael's made the statement to her that she would be shocked at how he would change in the next few years and become "white." This shows it was planned. If the people who are involved in the illuminati are sloppy enough to brag about their exploits, it shows that it can unravel.

    This shows how sick the Illuminati is, they had Michael in their power and tried everything to destroy him when he would turn his back against them, this is so sick but so true. The reality we think we live in is not reality at all our history and present is messed up and a big lie, now the future is another thing are we going to WAKE UP together with Michael and fight or do we want to let the future be the same as the past and present, it's up to US!
  • GraceGrace Posts: 2,864
    Thank you Souza & Mo for opening additional horizons again.
    I am not done with reflections on the topic. However I am missing some points.

    Logical consequences of what was pointed out in the blog:
    The alternatives are still open for a final curtain scene: murder, attempted murder, survived murder attack, suicide, attempted suicide, going underground (saving life due to potential attack), going underground (saving life due to healing requirement - regaining health prior to regaining fame).
    Would we then consider possible that Michael was murdered? (remembering the Russian accusations in the web on C I A involvement shortly after 6/25 )
    Or that he maybe survived an attempt, but might be severly injured and now recovering as good as possible (didn't that happen twice before?). That he's in kind of rehabilitation at a hidden place?
    Or was he hounded down into a suicide (attempt) and maybe is recovering now?
    Or did he manage to go underground avoiding a realization of a murder attempt?
    Or did he manage to go underground (with Joe's help maybe) in order to finally heal in a recovering program?

    Where do we sort then in the various internet appearances of friends, close sources, Michael himself - calmly speaking about "it's all for love" and "I'm alive" and "this is dark times - will you be here when sun is coming up again°?


    Natural and human aspects (outside of any MC thought):
    I am not speaking about multi-persona issues. We are each and everybody comprehending multi-persona inside of our personality. That results in the multitude of our life aspects, feelings, actions and reactions. This is not sick, any disorder or due to some unhealthy influence. We ARE masculin and feminin, we are young and old, we are right and left and up and down. Each of us.
    However, sensitive persons are more prone to external influences in the meaning that they sense them when others do not get anything about it. That's e.g when the inner ear of Michael gets hurt from the earpieces that "have to be worn" on order (of AEG?) and that knock down the musical sensitivity and absolute auditory of notes. Everybody who has worked with excellent artists on stage knows about their extreme sensitivity without which they could not perform like they perform. The absolute auditory e.g. is a very rare and special talent.

    Sensitivity also makes more aware of things that surround you and you sense their impact deeper than others. This may lead to more caution and shyness. What we learned about Michael so far about his life makes clear the absolute necessity of having to "function" in different jobs differently. There is nothing strange to me about this. And if you mention the potential of different alter egos - well we take carnival to jump into another role because life doesn't provide us other occasions, to be honest. And don't we love to be someone else once in a while? And wouldn't we love to be more often somebody else and jump out of our shoes?
    Michael had the opportunity to live different egos. When he showed this in public, immediately somebody would jump on him and try to destroy this. I call this envy and for a good reason the colour yellow was used at memorial and funeral so many times.
    I always understood that the "role" or "job" of the king of pop was being celebrated as past.
    That the gold was being buried. There is a deeper meaning behind this. And I don't really care about the little boy, the lady or the stage ego. Because all of that is inside of each of us. And if we are honest, our little childs have suffered too from growing up and were somewhat killed on the way by judgement of others. Michael was an exemple in public of what happened to all of us silently.


    Who is governing?
    IMHO there is no reason to believe that human beings will ever be able to govern planet earth or mankind. We are just too stupid. Too greedy, too much concerned about ourselves and there will never be a democratic equal powersharing amongst those who may want to govern mankind and the planet. So all experience shows that yes there are powerful individuals and organizations that are lying to us, that are trying to cheat us, that are trying to fill their pockets with our work & money. But do you really think that there will ever be an agreement who will be president of those? No. Never. Because those are too egomaniac and too greedy and there will never be a consentus on who should have the lead. They will kill each other on this disagreement. So there cannot be any "global organization" or "global world order" because Russia will want their "heat cost reduction", OPEC will want their "indemnisation for diminished oil sales", US will want their "our consumption cannot be shortened" interests - look at the desaster at Copenhagen and you'll see that national and even regional interests will always contradict any global project. Everybody wants his own feet warm.

    I am not and will never be signing any "they are there so fear them".
    There is a power greater than any individual, money accumulation or "mind control attempt".
    If anything is bigger than stupidity, it is self-education. If anything is free, it is human spirit. If anything is bigger than fear, it is love.
    Everybody is free to decide everyday whether the day will be a good one or a shitty one.
    It is the perception of the things that make our lives. Spiders see gras red. We see it green. And sometimes we just see the clover in it and that we have a Saturday with aching back ahead to get rid of it - and all of a sudden the green gras has lost its positive colour to us.

    I encourage everybody to learn as much as each of us can - for our mind, for our spirit, for our love. These three will help to overcome any human destruction attempt.


    Some personal thoughts
    My daughter is showing first signs of vitiligo. We are not in the US, we are not black, we are not under whatever external malicious influence.
    We do like green trees, woods, lawns, flowers and butterflies and have not been victim to any external malicious influence.
    There are global and eternal symbols that are used in many cultures, many eras. They are of universal character such as music.
    Now you may say that the bad forces will first attack good aspects of life such as music, art and culture to redefine human values.

    But it is still everybody's right and duty to switch off the radio and TV and not listen, watch and believe what is being published. It is still everybody'S right and duty to think and feel.
    That's our freedom.
    And that's why I will never agree to anybody controlling my life as long as I have a breath to take and a finger to switch the thingie off that is jumping on my nerves.

    Thank you again for raising the topic, Souza & Mo.
    I do think that Michael is healing well with all the love he's receiving that he never expected.
    There may be a big relief that with the truth prevailed the backpack of saving the world on his shoulders is being distributed right now on many many shoulders.
    I hope he's healing thoroughly now and forever.
  • If this really has happened to him, it's terrible, but i wouldn't be surprised also..
    the world is out of control and a lot of people do anything for money.. kill, lie, manipulate, destroy etc.

    and yes it does make me very sad to think of, that maybe this is what happend to him...

    but before i'm going complitely crazy again and be so shocked, like i was after the twin theory, i'll see this as a possibility and hope that we'll hear the truth someday from Michael himself!
  • Reguarding the skin lightening that Michael went thru over a period of years. I saw an interview on the net of Cher, the singer. ( I cannot remember for the life of me where!) She was talking about when she had her on show years ago how she became friends with Michael and had him perform many times on her variety show. She said they were at a party celebrating one night when an associate of Michael's made the statement to her that she would be shocked at how he would change in the next few years and become "white." This shows it was planned. If the people who are involved in the illuminati are sloppy enough to brag about their exploits, it shows that it can unravel.
    In my 'humble' opinion the statement of MJ's associate only shows he probably knew about the vitiligo and was maybe familiar with that skin condition maybe due to personal experience with it or whatever...
    Maybe Michael instructed him to tell Cher about the vitligo, because after all, he was performing many times on her show and, maybe, knowing of his skin condition she wouldn't be startled too much....
    Let's not forget that Michael hadn't performed in years. When he reappeared he was a changed man and not only skinwise.
    Let's also not forget that Michael himself drew a lot of attention to himself 'just to see how people would react to some rumours he spread (fi. hyper chamber..).
    Around Christmas time, on 22/12/2009 to be exact, there was a whole tribute to Michael on BBC2. During that tribute the BBC showed many interviews with his friends, co-workers, associates, family and so on.... It was a very candid tribute because for the first time ever, I felt like people (who really knew him) were actually telling what they really experienced, how it really felt to be around him. They diclosed different facets of him (one friend actually said Michael was afraid that if his fans would really get to know him, they would find him boring because he also liked just to sit home, doing nothing). Another person said that at a given moment he said he would cancel or postpone a concert (forgot wich one, but I'm sure if you look at the BBC site, you would be able to retrieve the whole tribute) and then relaunch it.
    In short he never, ever struck me as if he were somebody being controlled by someone else..... there is of course always a choice : either you let people control you or you don't let people control you. In the end the choice is always yours.....
    I categorically refuse to see him as a mindless, soulless puppet without any (self)responsibility. He was/is a simple mortal with a genius mind, who sometimes made poor choises for reasons only known to him (as the majority of us sometimes also do.. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> )
    I refuse to believe that Michael was/is a victim of the Illuminati, of mind control, of the NWO. If ever he was/is a victim, he was/is his own victim. He wasn't/isn't the first and most certainly wont be the last...
    And, as a final note to this long (and maybe boring to some.. <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> ) post, I'd like to say, as I stated in another thread, that I find it a bit sad that someone like Michael has to come along for us to (re)discover basic values....
    Having said this and probably bored some of you to death, I wish each and everyone here a very good, happy, healthy 2010 and may all of your wishes come through.. <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
  • Very interesting theory indeed. Nothing to be sad about.
    MJ is a human being, so as the one he made his own mistakes and learnt from them. He was stron enough to overcome difficulties and fight agains them.

    Thank you Mo & Souza
  • LLJLLJ Posts: 140
    Grace - I like your post...

    To Michael - I don't know what the exact truth is, I believe ONLY YOU can tell us and hopefully you will when you feel the time has arrived.

    BUT I do want you to know that whatever it may be, I will always love you, support you and not judge you.
  • @Grace : love your post; was frantically typing away on mine and when I finally posted it I saw yours... <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
  • In short he never, ever struck me as if he were somebody being controlled by someone else..... there is of course always a choice : either you let people control you or you don't let people control you. In the end the choice is always yours.....
    I categorically refuse to see him as a mindless, soulless puppet without any (self)responsibility. He was/is a simple mortal with a genius mind, who sometimes made poor choises for reasons only known to him (as the majority of us sometimes also do.. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> )
    I refuse to believe that Michael was/is a victim of the Illuminati, of mind control, of the NWO. If ever he was/is a victim, he was/is his own victim. He wasn't/isn't the first and most certainly wont be the last...

    Lala,

    It's crystal clear to me that you have not looked into MK Ultra nor into D.I.D. Had you done that, you would refrain from making statements like these.

    Prejudice is ignorance...
  • Very interesting theory indeed. Nothing to be sad about.
    MJ is a human being, so as the one he made his own mistakes and learnt from them. He was stron enough to overcome difficulties and fight agains them.

    I don't think you understand what mind control is about. In mind control, there's no such thing as "making one's own mistakes". Decisions are programmed, made for one.
  • In short he never, ever struck me as if he were somebody being controlled by someone else..... there is of course always a choice : either you let people control you or you don't let people control you. In the end the choice is always yours.....
    I categorically refuse to see him as a mindless, soulless puppet without any (self)responsibility. He was/is a simple mortal with a genius mind, who sometimes made poor choises for reasons only known to him (as the majority of us sometimes also do.. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> )
    I refuse to believe that Michael was/is a victim of the Illuminati, of mind control, of the NWO. If ever he was/is a victim, he was/is his own victim. He wasn't/isn't the first and most certainly wont be the last...

    Lala,

    It's crystal clear to me that you have not looked into MK Ultra nor into D.I.D. Had you done that, you would refrain from making statements like these.

    Prejudice is ignorance...
    Good for you Mo, I'm really happy and my best wishes for 2010 for you too, oh and Souza of course.
    PS : Ignorance is also prejudice
    PSPS : I read your blogs, so don't worry
  • jilljill Posts: 917
    Reguarding the skin lightening that Michael went thru over a period of years. I saw an interview on the net of Cher, the singer. ( I cannot remember for the life of me where!) She was talking about when she had her on show years ago how she became friends with Michael and had him perform many times on her variety show. She said they were at a party celebrating one night when an associate of Michael's made the statement to her that she would be shocked at how he would change in the next few years and become "white." This shows it was planned. If the people who are involved in the illuminati are sloppy enough to brag about their exploits, it shows that it can unravel.
    In my 'humble' opinion the statement of MJ's associate only shows he probably knew about the vitiligo and was maybe familiar with that skin condition maybe due to personal experience with it or whatever...
    Maybe Michael instructed him to tell Cher about the vitligo, because after all, he was performing many times on her show and, maybe, knowing of his skin condition she wouldn't be startled too much....
    Let's not forget that Michael hadn't performed in years. When he reappeared he was a changed man and not only skinwise.
    Let's also not forget that Michael himself drew a lot of attention to himself 'just to see how people would react to some rumours he spread (fi. hyper chamber..).
    Around Christmas time, on 22/12/2009 to be exact, there was a whole tribute to Michael on BBC2. During that tribute the BBC showed many interviews with his friends, co-workers, associates, family and so on.... It was a very candid tribute because for the first time ever, I felt like people (who really knew him) were actually telling what they really experienced, how it really felt to be around him. They diclosed different facets of him (one friend actually said Michael was afraid that if his fans would really get to know him, they would find him boring because he also liked just to sit home, doing nothing). Another person said that at a given moment he said he would cancel or postpone a concert (forgot wich one, but I'm sure if you look at the BBC site, you would be able to retrieve the whole tribute) and then relaunch it.
    In short he never, ever struck me as if he were somebody being controlled by someone else..... there is of course always a choice : either you let people control you or you don't let people control you. In the end the choice is always yours.....
    I categorically refuse to see him as a mindless, soulless puppet without any (self)responsibility. He was/is a simple mortal with a genius mind, who sometimes made poor choises for reasons only known to him (as the majority of us sometimes also do.. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> )
    I refuse to believe that Michael was/is a victim of the Illuminati, of mind control, of the NWO. If ever he was/is a victim, he was/is his own victim. He wasn't/isn't the first and most certainly wont be the last...
    And, as a final note to this long (and maybe boring to some.. <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> ) post, I'd like to say, as I stated in another thread, that I find it a bit sad that someone like Michael has to come along for us to (re)discover basic values....
    Having said this and probably bored some of you to death, I wish each and everyone here a very good, happy, healthy 2010 and may all of your wishes come through.. <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->

    There was a lot more said in the interview by Cher, not just about the skin change but other things as well. She went into detail about the changes she saw in Michael especially after this incident at the party, not physical changes but emotional and personality changes. The interview was very interesting. I will try to find it and post a link.
  • There was a lot more said in the interview by Cher, not just about the skin change but other things as well. She went into detail about the changes she saw in Michael especially after this incident at the party, not physical changes but emotional and personality changes. The interview was very interesting. I will try to find it and post a link.

    Thank you Jill, that would be great...
  • @Jill : thank you, I really would like to read it.
  • jilljill Posts: 917
    There was a lot more said in the interview by Cher, not just about the skin change but other things as well. She went into detail about the changes she saw in Michael especially after this incident at the party, not physical changes but emotional and personality changes. The interview was very interesting. I will try to find it and post a link.

    Thank you Jill, that would be great...

    I found the video on youtube but do not know how to post it here. Can you help me?
  • Of course! Please send me the URL in a PM, then I will publish the video here.
  • @ jill : you can post the URL in your message, can't you? There is a tab above it?
  • jilljill Posts: 917
    Here it is, hope it works.
    ://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xj38MJvb8Ls
  • After going over this again, wow, lots of info, the most disturbing part that I can kinda believe is that he was under some type of mind control. Michael has been in the public since he was a baby. He has been tossed back and forth between managers, advisors, religious leaders, magicians, etc. His mind is so absorbent that I am sure that he kept a piece of each one of those people ad their ideals locked somewhere inside him, so many in fact that he really didn't know how to distinguish between who had his best interest at heart and who was detrimental to him. After leaving Motown, he was allowed to do his own thing because he had money and power and presence, but not the background in finances, etc. to be able to handle appropriately that kind of wealth he had generated and the mega wealth he was capable of generating, leaving himself wide open for sharks and fake people to enter into the picture. Thus the firings, the re-hirings, the hiring of people at face value, the mismanagement of his money, his excursions, etc. Michael had no real idea of his worth. And sadly, he wasn't interested in knowing. He lived in the moment, literally. I can believe that some of his handlers (Tohme, Tohme) he sticks out for some reason, Dr. Klein, etc. all of these so called close associates in Michael's life knew that he didn't have a clue, which gave them a coercsive bind in a plot to take over Michael''s empire right under his nose. They told Michael he was broke <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: --> He HAD to do these shows to get out of debt, 50 <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: --> Michael obviously believed them initially. That is sad. Yes Michael owed some huge amounts of money because his so called mangers allowed him to spend unwisely and get mixed up in some shady financial transactions. But that was what he hired THEM for, to ensure that he wasn't making foolish mistakes. However, this would go against their plan, so they ALLOWED Michael to dig himself into a hole. In order for them to manipulate him, they had to allow him to get in what would appear to be unreasonable debt to me and you, but MICHAEL JACKSON <!-- s:!: -->:!:<!-- s:!: --> So once they had him where they wanted him, they started trying to rule and manipulate him. They were all ASSHOLES. I don't know who, but somebody got to Michael in time to reassure him that he was not irreversibly indebted. His worth and his wealth were still intact. He did not need to kill himself trying to do 50 concerts to pay his bills, which I truly believe they wanted him to do. That way they would get paid big time and get control of his masters, etc. according to his concert contract and the way his policy was underwritten. He was probably beginning to see that here were other options. Perhaps the reason AEG's people started turning people away from visiting or seeing Michael is because they knew he was being advised and Michael had started to indicate an unwillingness to follow through with their plan. He became "difficult". Thus the drugs being increased to help him sleep, etc. Michael was changed, right before the world's eyes, but I don't think it was because of alter ego. I think he was afraid and alone and feeling forced to do something his heart wasn't in. He was blocked in and had to find a way out. He did.

    I need to read some more. This is quite interesting.
  • jilljill Posts: 917
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    I must not be doing something right. It is from the Larry King show on 6/25/2009.
  • misha86misha86 Posts: 508
    Recently, an Illuminati slave, also stated that Elvis was an Illuminati slave. Cisco points out that Elvis’ twin brother was dead at his birth, and that Elvis knew that this gave him double spiritual power (according to Illuminati beliefs). The Illuminati will often kill a twin, so that the other will get the power of two souls
    this stood out to me...for obvious reasons

    i was also wondering about the black and white lyrics because i had seen a clip of the extended version where he is basicly saying f-off to the illuminati and that made me think of the lyrics.." i aint scared of you brother...ect" which never made sense if it was a love song about a girl

    i do believe what you guys have said and it all makes sense, i know people want to think that its a bunch of bs but really look at the logic of all this and put it all together. plus think about how many celebs have alter egos
    mariah=mimi...plus the butterflys
    beyonce=sasha fierce
    eminen=slim shady
    jay-z=hova
    kanye=mr west
    christina augiulara=x-tina
    *how could i forget chris gaines aka garth brooks...he was one of the first people to seperate the 2 alter egos
    i mean i could go on and on plus there alters are always darker and/or more sexual so this does not only applie to mike. there is actually a guy who does "alter ego" photo shoots in atlanta for celebrities here is vivicas

    <!-- m -->http://necolebitchie.com/2009/12/31/viv ... show-video<!-- m -->

    coincident that it has a good person, in white and a bad, in black? i think not

    but to conclude this all goes along with everthing i have been looking into and im glad that i am on the right track

    and one last thing..i had an argument with a co work who was trying to tell me mike was gay and she says to me " in the 80s my man was in the nba and he said when mike was high he was turn into a girl, she had a name but i forgot" <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> i thought she was full of it
  • Recently, an Illuminati slave, also stated that Elvis was an Illuminati slave. Cisco points out that Elvis’ twin brother was dead at his birth, and that Elvis knew that this gave him double spiritual power (according to Illuminati beliefs). The Illuminati will often kill a twin, so that the other will get the power of two souls
    this stood out to me...for obvious reasons

    i was also wondering about the black and white lyrics because i had seen a clip of the extended version where he is basicly saying f-off to the illuminati and that made me think of the lyrics.." i aint scared of you brother...ect" which never made sense if it was a love song about a girl

    i do believe what you guys have said and it all makes sense, i know people want to think that its a bunch of bs but really look at the logic of all this and put it all together. plus think about how many celebs have alter egos
    mariah=mimi...plus the butterflys
    beyonce=sasha fierce
    eminen=slim shady
    jay-z=hova
    kanye=mr west
    christina augiulara=x-tina
    i mean i could go on and on plus there alters are always darker and/or more sexual so this does not only applie to mike. there is actually a guy who does "alter ego" photo shoots in atlanta for celebrities here is vivicas

    <!-- m -->http://necolebitchie.com/2009/12/31/viv ... show-video<!-- m -->

    coincident that it has a good person, in white and a bad, in black? i think not

    but to conclude this all goes along with everthing i have been looking into and im glad that i am on the right track

    and one last thing..i had an argument with a co work who was trying to tell me mike was gay and she says to me " in the 80s my man was in the nba and he said when mike was high he was turn into a girl, she had a name but i forgot" <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> i thought she was full of it



    Wow. I have a friend who is in a band who worked with James Brown who also said that MJ was too feminine and that he had the tendency to act womanly when he was high. I totally lost all respect for him for saying that. I was pissed. He called him a premadona(mis spelled). Now I read this.
  • jilljill Posts: 917
    In Larry King's interview with Cher she said she was disturbed at how they would make Janet stay up during all the rehearsals when she was so small. Could it be they were also trying to use her to? Do they start at such a young age?

    At the VMA's when she performed Scream, after the performance the look on her face had such anger and venom. Could she have been letting them know she did not go along with what they had done to her brother and was also defying them?
  • If this really has happened to him, it's terrible, but i wouldn't be surprised also..
    the world is out of control and a lot of people do anything for money.. kill, lie, manipulate, destroy etc.

    and yes it does make me very sad to think of, that maybe this is what happend to him...

    but before i'm going complitely crazy again and be so shocked, like i was after the twin theory, i'll see this as a possibility and hope that we'll hear the truth someday from Michael himself!


    I absolutely agree with u!!!! ;)
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