New blog: Mike; victim of Illuminati & Mind Control?

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  • misha86misha86 Posts: 508


    and one last thing..i had an argument with a co work who was trying to tell me mike was gay and she says to me " in the 80s my man was in the nba and he said when mike was high he was turn into a girl, she had a name but i forgot" <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> i thought she was full of it



    Wow. I have a friend who is in a band who worked with James Brown who also said that MJ was too feminine and that he had the tendency to act womanly when he was high. I totally lost all respect for him for saying that. I was pissed. He called him a premadona(mis spelled). Now I read this.[/quote]
    i was mad also! that was the end of the conversation with me and her...i couldnt believe she would say something like that...

    @jill i wouldnt be shocked , probly not like with mike but im sure all of them had some time of control, maybe not rebbie but the boys and jan and toya i would not be shocked..with the exception of jackie and tito they were children and im sure they had to use something to make them perform ect like that...think about a 10 year old kid you know and tell me if you think they would/could perfom like that for hours/day and weeks natually
  • This blog is somewhat controversial and shocking and although you might not go with our theory stated in this blog, it is eye opening and will probably make you as mad and sad as we are.

    We were contacted by someone who asked us if we wanted to end up like Evan Chandler for publishing a blog about Mike/Mind Control & Illuminati, but since this is just a theory and the net is all over with articles about this topic, we will post it. There are a lot of people trying to keep us hoaxers from the truth by scaring them and telling half truths, but we have thought this out and unfortunately this fits. The twin-theory might have been off, but if this theory turns out to be true, it wasn’t even that far fetched.

    Read more:
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    Greetz,

    Mo & Souza


    I read a lot about ML ULTRA in the early days (July) long before I got onto forums etc by when I was on the old MJHD this type of discussion was not permitted. I think there is a lot of information which may have a bearing on what Michael had to go through it would explain a lot.

    Thank you for putting this information "out there" for discussion.

    At this point, I do not rule anything "out" or for that matter "in" but keep an open mind to all options.


    Thank you

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  • wow!!!!! is all i can say... not that i agree or disagree with any particular theory above another, but we cannot dismiss anything, no matter who might feel hurt about it!!! it is in no way disrespecting mj, we are all here because we want to know the truth, no matter what it is, and IMO any theory is credible until PROVEN otherwise....
    this morning, before reading this post i was having some thoughts on MJ, and i didn't even have the time to voice these thoughts to the one and only person who wouldn't laugh at me or be shocked by what i was thinking at that moment, when she said it for me.....that MJ was not 100% ok.... i then said to her that was exactly what i was thinking!! i even went further by saying that if anyone is to blame, IMO and this is a thought like many others, his mother is to blame for raising him to fear God, and all the stuff she made him do for the jehovas witnesses....like going door to door, etc,... but ultimately it was his choice when he became an adult to carry on with this fear he had, but i also think that MJ was very vunerable as a child and therefore more influenced by his mothers preachings than any of the other sibbling, maybe with the exception of Rebbie, who still is a JW.

    if anything, hat off to MO and SOUZA for allowing us to have an opinion
  • jilljill Posts: 917
    wow!!!!! is all i can say... not that i agree or disagree with any particular theory above another, but we cannot dismiss anything, no matter who might feel hurt about it!!! it is in no way disrespecting mj, we are all here because we want to know the truth, no matter what it is, and IMO any theory is credible until PROVEN otherwise....
    this morning, before reading this post i was having some thoughts on MJ, and i didn't even have the time to voice these thoughts to the one and only person who wouldn't laugh at me or be shocked by what i was thinking at that moment, when she said it for me.....that MJ was not 100% ok.... i then said to her that was exactly what i was thinking!!
    i even went further by saying that if anyone is to blame, IMO and this is a thought like many others, his mother is to blame for raising him to fear God, and all the stuff she made him do for the jehovas witnesses....like going door to door, etc,... but ultimately it was his choice when he became an adult to carry on with this fear he had, but i also think that MJ was very vunerable as a child and therefore more influenced by his mothers preachings than any of the other sibbling, maybe with the exception of Rebbie, who still is a JW.

    if anything, hat off to MO and SOUZA for allowing us to have an opinion
    The mind control has nothing to do with fearing God, if you study it further it has to do with Satanic principals. Please watch some of the videos. Michael turning back to God was when he started to seperate from the Illuminati and think for himself. That is when they started losing control of him.
    I am not saying I agree with the Jehovah's Witnesses. I am strictly talking about Michael's relationship with God.
  • I am glad i watched the Manchurian candidate before reading this. That was in a recient rediect.... This is crazy stuff, I MUST SAY back in july lots of people were very closed minded, but today seems like some are taking, waking up to the possibilies every thing is not what it seems........ I got my suzie and me from micheal and because its my middle name, do you think its approiate any more??
  • The mind control has nothing to do with fearing God, if you study it further it has to do with Satanic principals. Please watch some of the videos. Michael turning back to God was when he started to seperate from the Illuminati and think for himself. That is when they started losing control of him.
    I am not saying I agree with the Jehovah's Witnesses. I am strictly talking about Michael's relationship with God.[/quote]


    i get your meaning, really i do.... but being me, i tend to believe that ALL religions, whether they be in God, Satan, JW, or even buddhisme or islam are a different way of escaping reality, don't get me wrong here.... i am an atheist, but do respect others beliefs/religions as long as they keep it in the closet and don't use it to harm others....but todays world, referring to extremists, etc... blowing up innocent people to support their religion/belief.... sort of makes me think that this world would be a better place WITHOUT religion...even the catholic religion IMO is not as innocent as it claims..
    well, thats me and my opinion, no intention in offending anybody whatsoever
  • Wow....that was deep and kinda eerie...the thought of something like that possibly able to happen to anyone is scary in itself! In many of my posts I wanted to elaborate more on the black organizations that Michael began to join later in life....but I thought that would be one thing here against the no rules policy, so I just posted a little on the muslim group and Dick Gregory. I am a little, No, a lot disturbed and concerned on the threat that you guys received. I also had been looking at the fact that it was very strange for Evan Chandler to just die like that. I'm wondering if the government would directly do this or would they use people close to the victim...such as...Mottola, Malnik, Tohme Thome etc. ?

    Although I don't quite understand the illuminati Theory, I believe something life threatening caused the death hoax. Of course my investigations constantly led me to those who are in control of the estate.

    So, Michael obviously knew someone was really trying to kill him as he mentioned to LaToya and Dick Gregory. I have a good idea of who really assisted him with this hoax, but also believe there were very few people involved in the hoax.

    I don't think MJ would just pull off a hoax just to come back and do some wild concert or for any other vague reason! It had to be something really serious for MJ to be forced to separate from his loved ones at a time like this. Then again, I've noticed that his family/close friends are all spending an awful lot of time in London since his "supposed" death.

    Well, I'm glad you guys posted this information as moderators, as it would not have been accepted or received from another member. It is so amazing that racism, control and hate can go this level. As an african american myself the thought of this happening makes me sick to my stomach! <!-- s:cry: -->:cry:<!-- s:cry: --> <!-- s:cry: -->:cry:<!-- s:cry: --> <!-- s:cry: -->:cry:<!-- s:cry: -->
  • misha86misha86 Posts: 508
    Wow....that was deep and kinda eerie...the thought of something like that possibly able to happen to anyone is scary in itself! In many of my posts I wanted to elaborate more on the black organizations that Michael began to join later in life....but I thought that would be one thing here against the no rules policy, so I just posted a little on the muslim group and Dick Gregory. I am a little, No, a lot disturbed and concerned on the threat that you guys received. I also had been looking at the fact that it was very strange for Evan Chandler to just die like that. I'm wondering if the government would directly do this or would they use people close to the victim...such as...Mottola, Malnik, Tohme Thome etc. ?

    not only dick gregory but we saw him with jesse jackson, rev al stapton and dont forget who went on arsinio hall and had mikes back, louis farrakan and remeber all the rumors, or facts, that mj used all NIO for secruity..thats actually makes alot of sense for him to join with black organizations and also remeber the rumors/or facts of him becoming a muslim?

    also can you send me links to your post on dick gregory and muslim groups, i may have missed those.

    thank you
  • misha86misha86 Posts: 508
    this also makes me think of someone else who stated that they wanted to start a new black panther party,who was raised by a black panther, also used the number 7,went against the illuminati and possibly faked there death...tupac
  • Misha86,

    You're right, all these are people he turned to during the later years. I am so happy that Souza and Mo mentioned some of these facts. All my links are under:

    Report (Michael Jackson Didn't Hire Conrad Murray)

    I saw the change of people Michael had started to follow and thought that was strange.
  • mumof3mumof3 Posts: 1,973
    At first I thought the idea was mad but reading your post souza I am not so sure now Michael was so angry in his latter songs I love the songs but the anger is so strong, and another thing can we be connected when Michael "died" I just felt no he hasnt WHY should i feel this I always oved Michaels music i did not see him in concert I watched on the tv and when he was in trouble I always believed in him and watched what was happening to him and when he did the bashit programme I got into a hell of an argument with a good friend who thought he was wierd and a P I just saw a kind caring man and could not understand why others could not see that in him I got angry with people. I just can not understand why i am so obsessed with Michael now and feeling he is not dead what is that all about , in normal cicumstances I would have just thought how sad and i hope they get the people responsible so what i am saying is this some kind of mind controll going on with us or just a good thing.
  • I do think that Michael was the favored child by his mother, not meaning that in a mean way. But because he was so sensitive and caring, I think she felt the need to shelter him more from outside influences. She was his rock. She was his comfort. In latter years Michael's inability to distinguish good from evil in people obviously led him to be in the company of some snakes. He lacked that real street sense to sniff out a rat. (But then he loved rats, but I digress). I HATE when I look at some of Michael's videos, songs where he breaks down and cries,it breaks my heart. But those interviews where he is is obviously hurt and trying desperately to redeem himself from attacks ANGERS me to no end. It is unreal that Michael had to try to defend himself, or that he was allowed and/or expected to do interviews without some kind of attorney or advisor present. Hell, they should have been his spokes person and he not have to personally appear at all. I don't understand it. I just don't understand it.
  • GraceGrace Posts: 2,864
    Reread this maybe:
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    I would like to add however that Michael was very much in control of his life IMHO.
    I would not consider him a helpless, externally controlled victim.

    Whether we are being controlled? Well, I would say, we are emotionally hooked on this.
    Despite we have had many occurancies that could have calmed us, we are still insisting, still wanting to go further. That's maybe some kind of obsession with "hide and seek" and we want to seek til the end?

    Are we being controlled?

    Well, let's say this much: we are definitely being watched. By authorities, press, psychologists, lawyers, social behaviour researchers, who ever likes to watch us (waving "hi-ii" LOL).
    We also acknowledged that whenever we were looking for more pictures, for more clues, for guidance and expressed this, miraculously something would happen to be given to us exactly in the desired way.
    We noticed as well that the (desired) reactions were coming from media, web, family, Michael or close sources. We were suspicious about an ARG (alternate reality game).

    Now I don't want to dig into "you can make wishes come true if you insist in your dreams and wishes enough" in the sense of "you can move a mountain". There are evidences that this is possible though.

    There is someone pulling the reins - unidentified, behind the curtain.
    We don't know yet who this person or group is - not clearly - but we may eventually find this out. In case we don't get hooked on attention seekers and gamblers that are pure distraction. Remember that Michael himself has placed false information for press release and that all "leakage" so far has come from "close sources" and family.
    They are protecting and will continue to place false traces for sure.
  • jilljill Posts: 917
    "imabeliever2"]Wow....that was deep and kinda eerie...the thought of something like that possibly able to happen to anyone is scary in itself! In many of my posts I wanted to elaborate more on the black organizations that Michael began to join later in life....but I thought that would be one thing here against the no rules policy, so I just posted a little on the muslim group and Dick Gregory. I am a little, No, a lot disturbed and concerned on the threat that you guys received. I also had been looking at the fact that it was very strange for Evan Chandler to just die like that. I'm wondering if the government would directly do this or would they use people close to the victim...such as...Mottola, Malnik, Tohme Thome etc. ?

    Although I don't quite understand the illuminati Theory, I believe something life threatening caused the death hoax. Of course my investigations constantly led me to those who are in control of the estate.

    So, Michael obviously knew someone was really trying to kill him as he mentioned to LaToya and Dick Gregory. I have a good idea of who really assisted him with this hoax, but also believe there were very few people involved in the hoax.

    I don't think MJ would just pull off a hoax just to come back and do some wild concert or for any other vague reason! It had to be something really serious for MJ to be forced to separate from his loved ones at a time like this.
    Then again, I've noticed that his family/close friends are all spending an awful lot of time in London since his "supposed" death.

    Well, I'm glad you guys posted this information as moderators, as it would not have been accepted or received from another member. It is so amazing that racism, control and hate can go this level. As an african american myself the thought of this happening makes me sick to my stomach! <!-- s:cry: -->:cry:<!-- s:cry: --> <!-- s:cry: -->:cry:<!-- s:cry: --> <!-- s:cry: -->:cry:<!-- s:cry: -->[/quote]
    That's interesting I read somewhere they suspect Michael is in London. I wonder why there?
  • IDK why they're claiming that. But I have my own personal reasons for believing that from a dream that I had approximately 10+ years ago about MJ living in London. Of course it didn't make since at the time. <!-- s:| -->:|<!-- s:| -->
  • I already said before...but then i was crazy

    Sorry my last day here to comment. Not everything is true in this post. I did years of reasearch to illuminati freemasons, rochefellers...
    Now MO post it and now it is real???

    Well let me tell you someting..after all the posts about illuminati you have ignored..and now following like sheeps....... MO has power.. you are in contol.

    Mo this might not be your intention..but please explain the sources and say your vision is formed by the things you read !!!!

    And why !!!! Are several posts of mine have been removed???? About illuminati and all.

    Shame shame sham

    But i will not share here anymore, only in my private website.

    AND.. this blog should be removed..you put Michael in danger.. and as i said before...this should NOT be a public page for anyone to see.

    Thats why i quit here !!! safety first !!!
  • I somehow feel that some of the drugs they were prescribing Michael in the pretense of being pain meds, could have actually been something else falsely labeled. Psychotropic drugs maybe.
  • I already said before...but then i was crazy

    Sorry my last day here to comment. Not everything is true in this post. I did years of reasearch to illuminati freemasons, rochefellers...
    Now MO post it and now it is real???

    Well let me tell you someting..after all the posts about illuminati you have ignored..and now following like sheeps....... MO has power.. you are in contol.

    Mo this might not be your intention..but please explain the sources and say your vision is formed by the things you read !!!!

    And why !!!! Are several posts of mine have been removed???? About illuminati and all.

    Shame shame sham

    But i will not share here anymore, only in my private website.

    AND.. this blog should be removed..you put Michael in danger.. and as i said before...this should NOT be a public page for anyone to see.

    Thats why i quit here !!! safety first !!!

    Not ONE Illuminati post has been deleted from this forum, so I have no idea what you're talking about.

    ALL our sources are listed in the blog.

    You probably didn't notice there were quite some Illuminati/mind control related posts over the past 10 days, but saying that your fellow members follow us like sheep is quite disrespectful and even rude.

    As you are well aware of, we posted a THEORY, we never claim our posts are the truth. Illuminati/Michael Jackson theories and videos have been posted all over the internet since July, so explain to me why our blog post would make such a huge difference?

    Wishing you all the best,

    Mo
  • I already said before...but then i was crazy

    Sorry my last day here to comment. Not everything is true in this post. I did years of reasearch to illuminati freemasons, rochefellers...
    Now MO post it and now it is real???

    Well let me tell you someting..after all the posts about illuminati you have ignored..and now following like sheeps....... MO has power.. you are in contol.

    Mo this might not be your intention..but please explain the sources and say your vision is formed by the things you read !!!!

    And why !!!! Are several posts of mine have been removed???? About illuminati and all.

    Shame shame sham

    But i will not share here anymore, only in my private website.

    AND.. this blog should be removed..you put Michael in danger.. and as i said before...this should NOT be a public page for anyone to see.

    Thats why i quit here !!! safety first !!!

    Not ONE Illuminati post has been deleted from this forum, so I have no idea what you're talking about.

    ALL our sources are listed in the blog.

    You probably didn't notice there were quite some Illuminati/mind control related posts over the past 10 days, but saying that your fellow members follow us like sheep is quite disrespectful and even rude.

    As you are well aware of, we posted a THEORY, we never claim our posts are the truth. Illuminati/Michael Jackson theories and videos have been posted all over the internet since July, so explain to me why our blog post would make such a huge difference?

    Wishing you all the best,

    Mo

    yes Mo there are posts removed.... and i respect this is going beyond imagination..but there is so mutch more..why banned Maura...
    Don't put Michael in danger as i mentioned before....!!!!!!!
    I thought this was a pro Michael website....

    But your theorie about illuminati is NOT correct, but people beLIEve it because they dont know da d...N about it !!!!!!

    No offence..but i am doing research for years... and there is soo much more you cannot even imagion.

    7 minutes before i delete my account if possible
  • I am very, thoroughly confused now <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY THIS DISCUSSION IS PUTTING MICHAEL IN DANGER. Heaven forbid! I certainly would not want to do THAT. Please! Explain. This is frightening to me.
  • lol, are people who post only to satisfy their ego, I am glad that you have do that,
    it stops me to do the dirty work ... lollllllll..THANX Mo & Souza
    C'mon whitesocks, we are a communauty and we do sharing, not just for ego trip
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  • GirlSaturdayGirlSaturday Posts: 1,020
    Let’s try a little experiment. Go to work or school tomorrow… raise your hand and describe these hoaxed death forums. Once the people stop laughing, the teasing will really begin and then the denial comments with words like BS or Impossible or Absurd will follow. Sound familiar? The mind is willing to believe that MJ is alive. Good news! That opens the door for a comeback. Yippee! MJ underwent life-altering and mind altering problems for many years. Bad news! That shatters images of perfection and closes a door to indicate a possible permanent disappearing act.. Boooo! Every bit of news will not be soft and fluffy or warm and fuzzy. There is bitter with the sweet. Bad news does not diminish the innocent people who experience the bad incidents. Bad news does not make these innocent people bad.

    I used to watch a funny 70s sitcom that starred a single mother and her two teen daughters. I used to listen to the great songs of a 60s band that featured 2 talented males and 2 talented females who made great harmonies. Guess what the world learned about one of the actresses from the sitcom and one of the male singers from the band last year? Hint: the man is the father and the girl is his daughter. Rewind back in time and predict the reaction if that story were told to his fans or hers back in the day.

    What makes people assume that MJ is immune or untouchable? If we claim to be able to accept all of the good then we are nit picking when we reject anything that hints of some unpleasantness. MJ is not a buffet meal. You know… the meals where you grab a plate, approach a long serving table of food and proceed to choose what you really like while leaving behind what you really really dislike. If we clearly and proudly declare ourselves as fans then we need to consider the full person and not just the aspects that we really like. Otherwise that’s called romanticizing a person and a situation.
  • cannot delete my account

    But will not reply anymore.
  • Recently, an Illuminati slave, also stated that Elvis was an Illuminati slave. Cisco points out that Elvis’ twin brother was dead at his birth, and that Elvis knew that this gave him double spiritual power (according to Illuminati beliefs). The Illuminati will often kill a twin, so that the other will get the power of two souls
    this stood out to me...for obvious reasons

    i was also wondering about the black and white lyrics because i had seen a clip of the extended version where he is basicly saying f-off to the illuminati and that made me think of the lyrics.." i aint scared of you brother...ect" which never made sense if it was a love song about a girl

    i do believe what you guys have said and it all makes sense, i know people want to think that its a bunch of bs but really look at the logic of all this and put it all together. plus think about how many celebs have alter egos
    mariah=mimi...plus the butterflys
    beyonce=sasha fierce
    eminen=slim shady
    jay-z=hova
    kanye=mr west
    christina augiulara=x-tina
    *how could i forget chris gaines aka garth brooks...he was one of the first people to seperate the 2 alter egos
    i mean i could go on and on plus there alters are always darker and/or more sexual so this does not only applie to mike. there is actually a guy who does "alter ego" photo shoots in atlanta for celebrities here is vivicas

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    coincident that it has a good person, in white and a bad, in black? i think not

    but to conclude this all goes along with everthing i have been looking into and im glad that i am on the right track

    and one last thing..i had an argument with a co work who was trying to tell me mike was gay and she says to me " in the 80s my man was in the nba and he said when mike was high he was turn into a girl, she had a name but i forgot" <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> i thought she was full of it

    Just wondering if you have any more info about what your friend said about Michael being high. Are you talking about recreational drugs or what?
  • MercurialMercurial Posts: 101
    He did not turn into a "white man",he became a black man with white skin,its not really that complicated.he was always black.Yes he had a really nice skin tone before so would be extremely devasted as well if i had to turn pigmentless.I want to hear your explanation about the mental disorder for the white woman comment though.it was kind of shocking for me to read,like those kind of things make it appear that there was seriously something wrong with mr michael.i understand why people would be offended by it.

    Don't take it that literally, it was meant the way the media addressed it: Michael Jackson turned from a black man into a white woman. It has been said many times. Sow WE do not mean he is a white woman now, we are explaining the white (see previous post) and the female side (as alter ego). Again: we are not claiming Mike is a woman (I can't really believe how you come up with that) but the vitiligo and the alter egos are caused by things they have done to him.
    You can say whatever you want, but I will never believe that if a black man slowly turns white (ON THE OUTSIDE), that he can just 'brush that off'. I did not turn black all of the suden and I think most of people here did not experience that, so I think it is a bit easy to say that he could have just 'brushed it of'.
    And I can understand it's shocking to hear, but we DO think there was something wrong with him. Having alter egos is not normal and can effect your life in a bad way. It's not his fault, it was a result of the abuse and the controlling. Also, we think he is better now, like GirlSaturday said the therapy is 'merging'. For what we have seen with Sybil, it means that the main person (Mike) needs to 'meet' his alter egos and accept them, so they won't take over anymore, but will keep your 'skills' for you to use. The main person normally does not know about the alters, while the alters do know about the existing of the others.
    It's hard toexplain and I hope I did well, since I am not a psychiatrist. You shouls watch Sybil.

    Again and I hope for the last time: we are not here to diss Mike, please read the blog, we want people to understand.
    <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> err i read the blog finally now.when i read the part about the penguin person being a woman i kind of chuckled. <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> not that i don't take it seriously,that part was just funny for some reason.yes i understand what you are saying but i don't get the bolded part. like it just seems like a weird comparison.people turning black?even though mj was given this skin changing thing on purpose or whatever/inflicted on him by the illuminati,there actually IS a disease called vitiligo that people get which unless they were purposely(?) infected too <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> .
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