the harder and longer I stare at those pics the more and more its clear that they arent all the same person, What I am noticing is that throughout the years and after plastic surgery we have a double,stand-in, doppleganger or whatever you want to call him that has gotten closer and closer to looking like michael to the point where you cant tell who is who, I guess thats the whole point in having a double for security and other reasons.
BUT>>>> if you look extremely close and let your mind open a little, there is subtle difference in the nose, eyebrow and lip area that simply dont match, and its not camera angles or lighting thats causing these differences but to really SEE WHERE these difference truly are, look at the cleft, the clefts are so different and that doesnt change on its own in a matter of days. Look at the cleft and you can clearly see they dont match, some are tight and long and perfect while the other cleft is open and small while the other is sloppy all together. Clefts that have been made by a surgeon dont change on a daily basis.
If the person on stage was not Michael Jackson, this is perhaps because Elvis Presley was at the press conference too, says a statement coming from the singer’s camp.
What an interesting thing to say. Elvis was at the press conference too? hmmm Well maybe he was there too. <!-- s --><!-- s -->
the harder and longer I stare at those pics the more and more its clear that they arent all the same person, What I am noticing is that throughout the years and after plastic surgery we have a double,stand-in, doppleganger or whatever you want to call him that has gotten closer and closer to looking like michael to the point where you cant tell who is who, I guess thats the whole point in having a double for security and other reasons.
BUT>>>> if you look extremely close and let your mind open a little, there is subtle difference in the nose, eyebrow and lip area that simply dont match, and its not camera angles or lighting thats causing these differences but to really SEE WHERE these difference truly are, look at the cleft, the clefts are so different and that doesnt change on its own in a matter of days. Look at the cleft and you can clearly see they dont match, some are tight and long and perfect while the other cleft is open and small while the other is sloppy all together. Clefts that have been made by a surgeon dont change on a daily basis.
Its all in the cleft.
What about this picture? I think it tells all. The bone structure and all of the face features fit/match with real Michael 100%. None of us look the same in all of our pictures. I can't even recognize myself in some of my pictures. So I believe that 02 guy was Michael himself.
God bless you for the links. I have heard about what Mr. Harris said in an interview about the facial and vocal differences at the O2 conference. I am so happy to have the article links for reference. Thank you so much! <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
this is the real michael
Brillant photo comparsion. God bless you for your love and your research, Samsuperb! <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
by mumof3 » Tue Jun 15, 2010 11:05 pm
I read somewhere that michael had a fall that is why he had marks on his hands I always felt it was michael there but not him self ie he was upset angry alMost made up to not look like himself for some reason when I fist saw him I thought what the heck is wrong but it's him I am pretty certain but I have never sen the video of him falling so don't k ow what that was about
Michael Jackson had a fall from the CAR transporting him to 02.
He did not want to do the 02 announcement. I had wondered if he tried
to get OUT of the car. But that is only my thoughts. I never saw the video,
but someone saw it happen.
DID Michael have marks on his hands at 02? If so, this supports that
rumor. Or one could ask, if that was Michael Jackson that had the fall?
Did Tohme pull him back inside?
I either thought when I see him walk inside, that he high on oxycotin or
it not him at all.
I think everyone is getting paid off, there were more loose-lips in the
beginning.
Ihave posted this before,but i thought i would again just because someone new might not have seen it,ive always found it strange how dermot says when michael hugged him it felt like he was ripped,and had strong back muscles,but there were people at the time saying he was frail,very under weight,ive even heard people say he was like a dancing skeleton,i dont know,its just somthing that has stuck in my mind,i really dont know what to make of it all. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> xx [youtube:3an3x9y8]
Ihave posted this before,but i thought i would again just because someone new might not have seen it,ive always found it strange how dermot says when michael hugged him it felt like he was ripped,and had strong back muscles,but there were people at the time saying he was frail,very under weight,ive even heard people say he was like a dancing skeleton,i dont know,its just somthing that has stuck in my mind,i really dont know what to make of it all. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> xx [youtube:176ejsd8]
I remember this too good! Great, Dermot! <!-- s --><!-- s -->
What's about "Michael"s stomach muscles? <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> <!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: -->
i dont know where i found this picture heck it might have been on this site lol
but look at the picture..
huggs n faith to all
suzz
Wtf? Is this picture photoshopped? Now I recognize nobobdy there...Michael nor O2-guy... <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
@tekamjforever
35 years old...15years older than me...<!-- s:( -->:(<!-- s:( --> How damn much I hate my life. It's so f*cking unfair! <!-- s --><!-- s -->
if it was a real Michael in O2 then he was and is very healthy, and if it was not Michael then he didn't have time to announce fake concert tour coz he was busy... stage you death is hard job.. he had to prepare! <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s -->
Let's go round in circles.... anyone? Except for Elvis... he is new in this adventure! <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s -->
Im beginning to think that we are getting lots and lots of distractions all part of this illusion we are all living through for the last 11 months <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
Such confusion dont it make you wanna scream! <!-- s --><!-- s -->
Another thought just crossed my mind,why did they ring dermot only the day before the 02,that seems to be leaving it a bit late in the day for somthing that important, shouldnt it have all been arranged for a at least a while,only thing i can think of,maybe someone else was supposed to do it,and let them down,not sure. <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
This article is about 15 months old, and though I believe it was Michael at the o2 Arena, I have always asked why didn't Michael himself ever said anything about these rumors. Of course, the press has said so many BS about him, that he just probably thought it wasn't even worth commenting. Maybe that's what Michael wanted, to create this illusion of a double...
Ok, usually I dont mix in conversations, but as I read this I was thinking:
A man that looks that much like Michael, would have to go in hiding for the rest of his life.
It is not possible that that is a double, because he would have been seen one day or another.
You must understand, for example, if michael would be dead, this man can never go anywhere anymore.
I knew it all along, folks. <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) --> <!-- s:P -->:P<!-- s:P -->
Me too! Compare details on the items described below, with photos and videos in the period 1998-2007. Moreover, the man of the conference is younger (35 years).
- Mouth, teeth, smile
- Nose
- Jaw chin / fissure
- The hands, nails
- Mannerisms very sharp (less sensitive)
I haven't changed my mind since the double theory. I too, believe that wasn't Michael. What got me was last year when all of the tribute magazines came out; I bought quite a few. I was flabergasted when I saw the 02 guy as MJ in some of them. I don't know who was at the conference in March 2009. I just know it wasn't Michael Jackson. Keep the Faith!
If he hadn't looked so diferent in TII (facially nothing like 02 guy), I may have been convinced but I'm still wondering to this day.
Yeah, O2's chin is MASSIVE, but the fake(s) (not certain if there's one or more in TII) in the movie have small chins- smaller than the real MJ and especially smaller than O2's chin..
by mumof3 » Tue Jun 15, 2010 11:05 pm
I read somewhere that michael had a fall that is why he had marks on his hands I always felt it was michael there but not him self ie he was upset angry alMost made up to not look like himself for some reason when I fist saw him I thought what the heck is wrong but it's him I am pretty certain but I have never sen the video of him falling so don't k ow what that was about
Michael Jackson had a fall from the CAR transporting him to 02.
He did not want to do the 02 announcement. I had wondered if he tried
to get OUT of the car. But that is only my thoughts. I never saw the video,
but someone saw it happen.
DID Michael have marks on his hands at 02? If so, this supports that
rumor. Or one could ask, if that was Michael Jackson that had the fall?
Did Tohme pull him back inside?
I either thought when I see him walk inside, that he high on oxycotin or
it not him at all.
I think everyone is getting paid off, there were more loose-lips in the
beginning.
Someone even posted pictures about his clothes being dirty from make-up or whatever on the old forum. Even his pants had stains! So I think this supports that theory that he was probably struggling to get out of that car...Oh God, I dont even want to imagine what he went through, if this is true <!-- s --><!-- s -->
Ok, usually I dont mix in conversations, but as I read this I was thinking:
A man that looks that much like Michael, would have to go in hiding for the rest of his life.
It is not possible that that is a double, because he would have been seen one day or another.
You must understand, for example, if michael would be dead, this man can never go anywhere anymore.
Ok, thats it.
O2-guy doesn't look like Mike, even in sunglasses, wig, MJ-jacket, and make up. Do you think he would look like him without these? Even I could look like Michael if i would put these things on myself. As much as he does..i could.
I can't believe that this is still a question.
After nearly twelve months of comparing michaels hair,teeth,nose,ears,eyes,chin,hands,nails,walk and body language !
we have come to the conclusion that we still can`t make are minds up. <!-- s --><!-- s -->
if mj is still alive and that was a double than it was a bloody good one.
I agree with the people who say the 02 guy is not Michael. It is a subtle difference, but it is there. The lips are fuller and more curved and the nose is slightly different. He does not as gracefully as does MJ. I've never seen MJ laugh that way. The double was also trying to find the appropriate pitch when speaking, "these....will be my last performances in London." I think the most important question is why was a double used? Were they forcing MJ to do something he didn't want to do? Was it Tohme Tohme who was pushing him to get out there?
i just thought of somthing else,at the 02 behind the stage, when mj got out of the bus,at one point he went as if to get into the buggy,but they got hold of his arm and guided him away,as if he didnt know what to do and seemed a bit lost,but wouldnt mj know exactly what to do,hes been doing things like this for years,not sure if im making any sense.xx <!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: --> <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
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the harder and longer I stare at those pics the more and more its clear that they arent all the same person, What I am noticing is that throughout the years and after plastic surgery we have a double,stand-in, doppleganger or whatever you want to call him that has gotten closer and closer to looking like michael to the point where you cant tell who is who, I guess thats the whole point in having a double for security and other reasons.
BUT>>>> if you look extremely close and let your mind open a little, there is subtle difference in the nose, eyebrow and lip area that simply dont match, and its not camera angles or lighting thats causing these differences but to really SEE WHERE these difference truly are, look at the cleft, the clefts are so different and that doesnt change on its own in a matter of days. Look at the cleft and you can clearly see they dont match, some are tight and long and perfect while the other cleft is open and small while the other is sloppy all together. Clefts that have been made by a surgeon dont change on a daily basis.
Its all in the cleft.
What an interesting thing to say. Elvis was at the press conference too? hmmm Well maybe he was there too. <!-- s
What about this picture? I think it tells all. The bone structure and all of the face features fit/match with real Michael 100%. None of us look the same in all of our pictures. I can't even recognize myself in some of my pictures. So I believe that 02 guy was Michael himself.
God bless you for the links. I have heard about what Mr. Harris said in an interview about the facial and vocal differences at the O2 conference. I am so happy to have the article links for reference. Thank you so much! <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
Brillant photo comparsion. God bless you for your love and your research, Samsuperb! <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
I read somewhere that michael had a fall that is why he had marks on his hands I always felt it was michael there but not him self ie he was upset angry alMost made up to not look like himself for some reason when I fist saw him I thought what the heck is wrong but it's him I am pretty certain but I have never sen the video of him falling so don't k ow what that was about
Michael Jackson had a fall from the CAR transporting him to 02.
He did not want to do the 02 announcement. I had wondered if he tried
to get OUT of the car. But that is only my thoughts. I never saw the video,
but someone saw it happen.
DID Michael have marks on his hands at 02? If so, this supports that
rumor. Or one could ask, if that was Michael Jackson that had the fall?
Did Tohme pull him back inside?
I either thought when I see him walk inside, that he high on oxycotin or
it not him at all.
I think everyone is getting paid off, there were more loose-lips in the
beginning.
Let Michael himself settle the whole thing when he comes out for himself.....
If he says it from his own mouth taht he used a double, we'll believe it.
End of argument. <!-- s:| -->:|<!-- s:| -->
If it was not Michael, then "see you in July" is not a clue anymore?
I remember this too good! Great, Dermot! <!-- s
What's about "Michael"s stomach muscles? <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> <!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: -->
In my opinion: This is a clue for a double at O2.
Wtf? Is this picture photoshopped? Now I recognize nobobdy there...Michael nor O2-guy... <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
@tekamjforever
35 years old...15years older than me...<!-- s:( -->:(<!-- s:( -->
How damn much I hate my life. It's so f*cking unfair! <!-- s
Im beginning to think that we are getting lots and lots of distractions all part of this illusion we are all living through for the last 11 months <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
Such confusion dont it make you wanna scream! <!-- s
I am still 50% 50% on this
A man that looks that much like Michael, would have to go in hiding for the rest of his life.
It is not possible that that is a double, because he would have been seen one day or another.
You must understand, for example, if michael would be dead, this man can never go anywhere anymore.
Ok, thats it.
I haven't changed my mind since the double theory. I too, believe that wasn't Michael. What got me was last year when all of the tribute magazines came out; I bought quite a few. I was flabergasted when I saw the 02 guy as MJ in some of them. I don't know who was at the conference in March 2009. I just know it wasn't Michael Jackson. Keep the Faith!
Someone even posted pictures about his clothes being dirty from make-up or whatever on the old forum. Even his pants had stains! So I think this supports that theory that he was probably struggling to get out of that car...Oh God, I dont even want to imagine what he went through, if this is true <!-- s
O2-guy doesn't look like Mike, even in sunglasses, wig, MJ-jacket, and make up. Do you think he would look like him without these? Even I could look like Michael if i would put these things on myself. As much as he does..i could.
I can't believe that this is still a question.
we have come to the conclusion that we still can`t make are minds up. <!-- s
if mj is still alive and that was a double than it was a bloody good one.