OMG....Joe blaming Katherine...this is it. This is it!

2good2btrue2good2btrue Posts: 4,210
edited June 2010 in News
First clue...put the blame on Katherine.. Then Joe says.. MJ feared he would be shot on stage....put these two together and what do we get??? [youtube:3pnejyfx]

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  • samsuperbsamsuperb Posts: 495
    hmm, i guess, but that part was funny though <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
  • HazzelyHazzely Posts: 1,443
    WOW!! This is huge!!!! It could be !!

    Remembering now Michael's "smooth criminal" in TII!


    EDIT: There we go, lol, you just linked that video <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
  • cin_pytcin_pyt Posts: 632
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  • RKRK Posts: 3,019
    2good you have such a wonderful mind. You see things that I miss. Thankyou.
  • samsuperbsamsuperb Posts: 495
    Seems like Joe was drunk also when he blamed Kat <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->

    Can anyone tell me what is the name of the movie?
  • whisperwhisper Posts: 630
    o.O
  • 2good2btrue2good2btrue Posts: 4,210
    The meaning of Mame... could also be madame.
  • 2good2btrue2good2btrue Posts: 4,210
    The movie is called Gilda...starring Rita Hayworth.
  • HazzelyHazzely Posts: 1,443
    Soon Johnny discovers that Ballin is more than a casino owner. He is the head of a tungsten monopoly with plans to take over the world. When a man threatens to stand in the way of his grand plans, Ballin kills him. The police know he did it, so he decides to stage his own death. Johnny takes over Ballin's business affairs, including becoming the head of the tungsten monopoly, (Randy?? The family?) and to everyone's surprise, he marries Gilda. She marries him for love, but Johnny has an ulterior motive. Almost immediately after the ceremony, he leaves her, saying "She hadn't been faithful to Ballin when he was alive, but she was going to be faithful to him now that he was dead." --> They didn't know how to treat him when he was "alive", so "honour" me now that I'm dead and LOVE me, discover the man you've never seen before!.
    For nights Gilda awaits Johnny's return. After a frustrating visit to his office, where she tries to tell him that there were never any other men in her life, she begins dating -to get back at him.

    Gilda soon finds out that Johnny has hired men to watch over every move she makes. After a few of her boyfriends are "taken care of", she realizes she'll never be free in Buenos Aires, so she runs away to Montevideo. She stays away for a while but soon returns with a new boyfriend who unbeknownst to her, is one of Johnny's men. He convinces her that she has to go back to Buenos Aires and get an annulment if she is ever to be free of Johnny. Back in Argentina she discovers that her boyfriend is on Johnny's side, and finds herself trapped again.

    Meanwhile, the police have learned about the tungsten monopoly and those involved are arrested --> Murray. The casino is shut down --> concerts cancelled. Johnny avoids imprisonment by cooperating with the police. --> no need to explain this Detective Obregon (Joseph Calleia), who'd been watching Gilda as part of his investigation, knows she hasn't done any of the things Johnny thinks she's done. He has observed that Gilda is in love with Johnny, and that deep down he loves her. Obregon tells him the truth about Gilda, and Johnny realizes how wrong he's been. --> Michael will come back and the people will realize how wrong they have been about him . As she prepares to return home to the United States, he tells her he's sorry and that he loves her. Just then, Ballin steps back into their lives to reclaim Gilda. Finding them together, he tries to murder them both, but Uncle Pio (Steven Geray), the philosophical bathroom attendant at the casino, gets to Ballin first and saves Gilda and Johnny. Now made up and their love for each other finally expressed, the two depart for North America together.
  • MJonmindMJonmind Posts: 7,290
    Fantastic connection!!!
  • samsuperbsamsuperb Posts: 495
    Soon Johnny discovers that Ballin is more than a casino owner. He is the head of a tungsten monopoly with plans to take over the world. When a man threatens to stand in the way of his grand plans, Ballin kills him. The police know he did it, so he decides to stage his own death. Johnny takes over Ballin's business affairs, including becoming the head of the tungsten monopoly, (Randy?? The family?) and to everyone's surprise, he marries Gilda. She marries him for love, but Johnny has an ulterior motive. Almost immediately after the ceremony, he leaves her, saying "She hadn't been faithful to Ballin when he was alive, but she was going to be faithful to him now that he was dead." --> They didn't know how to treat him when he was "alive", so "honour" me now that I'm dead and LOVE me, discover the man you've never seen before!.
    For nights Gilda awaits Johnny's return. After a frustrating visit to his office, where she tries to tell him that there were never any other men in her life, she begins dating -to get back at him.

    Gilda soon finds out that Johnny has hired men to watch over every move she makes. After a few of her boyfriends are "taken care of", she realizes she'll never be free in Buenos Aires, so she runs away to Montevideo. She stays away for a while but soon returns with a new boyfriend who unbeknownst to her, is one of Johnny's men. He convinces her that she has to go back to Buenos Aires and get an annulment if she is ever to be free of Johnny. Back in Argentina she discovers that her boyfriend is on Johnny's side, and finds herself trapped again.

    Meanwhile, the police have learned about the tungsten monopoly and those involved are arrested --> Murray. The casino is shut down --> concerts cancelled. Johnny avoids imprisonment by cooperating with the police. --> no need to explain this Detective Obregon (Joseph Calleia), who'd been watching Gilda as part of his investigation, knows she hasn't done any of the things Johnny thinks she's done. He has observed that Gilda is in love with Johnny, and that deep down he loves her. Obregon tells him the truth about Gilda, and Johnny realizes how wrong he's been. --> Michael will come back and the people will realize how wrong they have been about him . As she prepares to return home to the United States, he tells her he's sorry and that he loves her. Just then, Ballin steps back into their lives to reclaim Gilda. Finding them together, he tries to murder them both, but Uncle Pio (Steven Geray), the philosophical bathroom attendant at the casino, gets to Ballin first and saves Gilda and Johnny. Now made up and their love for each other finally expressed, the two depart for North America together.


    Thanks fo the description, i need to see this moie, but where? <!-- s:| -->:|<!-- s:| -->
  • 2good2btrue2good2btrue Posts: 4,210
    Joe also wrongly accuses Katherine.. He also goes on to say that "Katherine and Michael are the same....they both just run away..

    So could Lisa-Marie be Gilda ??? <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
  • samsuperbsamsuperb Posts: 495
    So could Lisa-Marie be Gilda ??? <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
    God I hope not! <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
  • RKRK Posts: 3,019
    And Uncle Pio [aka Uncle Jessie Presley] is Elvis.
  • samsuperbsamsuperb Posts: 495
    So if gilda is LISA this means she's in the hoax too and it means michael and lisa are sleeping together agian?
  • 2good2btrue2good2btrue Posts: 4,210
    Samsuperb, I'd say Michael never stopped loving her...

    If we are been given clues based on the THIS IS IT movie, then where does Smooth Criminal come into it ? Is it near the end of the movie ??

    If not, what song is next ???

    It almost feels like we are all part of a "Big Brother" show.     <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> Reality TV with a new twist......MJ is watching all of us.. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
  • cin_pytcin_pyt Posts: 632
    2goodtobtrue great for pointing this out. Well, we could be part of MJs reality show haha
  • samsuperbsamsuperb Posts: 495
    Samsuperb, I'd say Michael never stopped loving her...
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    I think thats the other away around, she never stopped loving michael <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
  • Unknown
    So could Lisa-Marie be Gilda ??? <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
    Where are you getting the LMP is Gilda connection?

    MJ and LMP were married May 18, 1994 and divorced on January 18, 1996 - that is less than a 2 years I don't think that 14 years later there is going to be a big love affair especially after reading up on Lisa.

    In 2000 LMP was then engaged to John Oszajca.
    She broke off the engagement after meeting actor Nicolas Cage at a party.
    She married Nicholas Cage August 10, 2002.
    He filed for divorce on November 25, 2002 and the divorce was finalized on May 26, 2004.
    LMP married Michael Lockwood on January 22, 2006.
    On On October 7, 2008, LMP gave birth to fraternal twin girls the children of her current husband.

    LMP and Michael had a 4 months courtship, a short marriage less than 21 months (a divorce isn't instant either so maybe even shorter)The relationship has been over for a very long time and she definitely moved on. She has been married to Lockwood for 4 years and they have their twins and seem happy. Sorry I really don't see it.
    If there is a "Gilda" it isn't LMP.
  • 2good2btrue2good2btrue Posts: 4,210
    These are the comparisons:
  • Unknown
    These are the comparisons:
    So you are dismissing the fact that she is happily married with Twins, has had an engaement and two other marriages since she divorced Michael because she did her hair in a certain style one night in 1994 (or something) which was popular in the 40's & 50's?

    Besides the style is similar maybe but not the same.
  • samsuperbsamsuperb Posts: 495
    She didnt moved on after the divorce, she desperatley wanted michael back and it took her 2 years to get over michael because she was obsessed with him. Now she feels sorry now because hes dead
  • Unknown
    She didnt moved on after the divorce, she desperatley wanted michael back and it took her 2 years to get over michael because she was obsessed with him
    As you seem to have difficulty reading I will repost this for you.

    In 2000 LMP was then engaged to John Oszajca.
    She broke off the engagement after meeting actor Nicolas Cage at a party.
    She married Nicholas Cage August 10, 2002.
    He filed for divorce on November 25, 2002 and the divorce was finalized on May 26, 2004.
    LMP married Michael Lockwood on January 22, 2006.
    On On October 7, 2008, LMP gave birth to fraternal twin girls the children of her current husband.

    I think that is having MOVED ON
    and as you said it took time "TO GET OVER HIM" which she did cause she married other people and is happily married with twins now!
  • samsuperbsamsuperb Posts: 495
    She didnt moved on after the divorce, she desperatley wanted michael back and it took her 2 years to get over michael because she was obsessed with him
    As you seem to have difficulty reading I will repost this for you.

    In 2000 LMP was then engaged to John Oszajca.
    She broke off the engagement after meeting actor Nicolas Cage at a party.
    She married Nicholas Cage August 10, 2002.
    He filed for divorce on November 25, 2002 and the divorce was finalized on May 26, 2004.
    LMP married Michael Lockwood on January 22, 2006.
    On On October 7, 2008, LMP gave birth to fraternal twin girls the children of her current husband.

    I think that is having MOVED ON
    and as you said it took time "TO GET OVER HIM" which she did cause she married other people and is happily married with twins now!


    YES I KNOW THAT< BUT im TALKING AFTER THE DIVORCE

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  • samsuperbsamsuperb Posts: 495
    Anways, back on topic <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
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