I see a paramedic as well, look at his badge. The fun part is that he has long sleeves, while the one on the official pic has short sleeves <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
I see a paramedic as well, look at his badge. The fun part is that he has long sleeves, while the one on the official pic has short sleeves <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
To me the picture is not clear enough to say that his sleeves are shot or long. Sorry
I think it's obivous that looks like what we've seen in the pic we got from Ben. (At least to me)
That doesn't mean it was Michael, still, I see a person lying on the stretcher.
The only thing I find strange is that bodyguard take everybody out from the home but there is A FAN, inside, trying to keep paparazzi away ??
So
there was no more employee
there was only bodyguard
there was one fan INSIDE, at the door, trying to prevent video to be taken (ok we see him on the video)
There are paramedics with there own clothes from paramedics guy
There is Michael Jackson supposedly DEAD, so not stand on his 2 feet
SO WHO THE HELL IS THE GUY WITH BLUE SHIRT STANDING NEAR THE AMBULANCE INSIDE THE HOUSE, THAT CAN BE SEEN BETWEEN THE GATES ??? <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->
When Ben says "there was a bodyguard and a fan" did you notice how he is looking for his words right after "hum..to euh...trying very hard for video not to be taken...Then he looks somewhere else...
What happen Ben ? You are ashamed you took the video of Michael dead, or do you realise Michael can be seen on the video, while you're watching it again ?
yeah, guys I don't know what you see in that ambulance but to me I honestly don't see anything but a paramedic inside. No faces, no masks, nothing of the sort. don'tlet your imagination get the best of you!
The only thing I find strange is that bodyguard take everybody out from the home but there is A FAN, inside, trying to keep paparazzi away ??
So
there was no more employee
there was only bodyguard
there was one fan INSIDE, at the door, trying to prevent video to be taken (ok we see him on the video)
There are paramedics with there own clothes from paramedics guy
There is Michael Jackson supposedly DEAD, so not stand on his 2 feet
SO WHO THE HELL IS THE GUY WITH BLUE SHIRT STANDING NEAR THE AMBULANCE INSIDE THE HOUSE, THAT CAN BE SEEN BETWEEN THE GATES ??? <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->
When Ben says "there was a bodyguard and a fan" did you notice how he is looking for his words right after "hum..to euh...trying very hard for video not to be taken...Then he looks somewhere else...
What happen Ben ? You are ashamed you took the video of Michael dead, or do you realise Michael can be seen on the video, while you're watching it again ?
I don't see anything but the paramedic... I have the pics to prove my point, but they are too big for this forum for some reason.
Must be me going mad. I see MJ in a white mask sitting up. May be an optical illusion, but i wasnt looking for it and it popped out to me
I usually dont believe in these things, but I must say that I saw the same thing <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> ...Someone wearing a white mask and looking straight at the camera with huge eyes, like they're afraid, while sitting up. I didn't see this right away, just after probably 10 times, and its actually at 1:54 where I saw it.
I don't see anything but the paramedic... I have the pics to prove my point, but they are too big for this forum for some reason.
Must be me going mad. I see MJ in a white mask sitting up. May be an optical illusion, but i wasnt looking for it and it popped out to me
I usually dont believe in these things, but I must say that I saw the same thing <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> ...Someone wearing a white mask and looking straight at the camera with huge eyes, like they're afraid, while sitting up. I didn't see this right away, just after probably 10 times, and its actually at 1:54 where I saw it.
Did you read all the posts and watch those photos? That's just an illusion.
There's no mask, just paramedic's uniform.
Why you only see what you WANT to see? :S
The only thing I find strange is that bodyguard take everybody out from the home but there is A FAN, inside, trying to keep paparazzi away ??
So
there was no more employee
there was only bodyguard
there was one fan INSIDE, at the door, trying to prevent video to be taken (ok we see him on the video)
There are paramedics with there own clothes from paramedics guy
There is Michael Jackson supposedly DEAD, so not stand on his 2 feet
SO WHO THE HELL IS THE GUY WITH BLUE SHIRT STANDING NEAR THE AMBULANCE INSIDE THE HOUSE, THAT CAN BE SEEN BETWEEN THE GATES ??? <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->
When Ben says "there was a bodyguard and a fan" did you notice how he is looking for his words right after "hum..to euh...trying very hard for video not to be taken...Then he looks somewhere else...
What happen Ben ? You are ashamed you took the video of Michael dead, or do you realise Michael can be seen on the video, while you're watching it again ?
I don't see anything but the paramedic... I have the pics to prove my point, but they are too big for this forum for some reason.
Must be me going mad. I see MJ in a white mask sitting up. May be an optical illusion, but i wasnt looking for it and it popped out to me
I usually dont believe in these things, but I must say that I saw the same thing <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> ...Someone wearing a white mask and looking straight at the camera with huge eyes, like they're afraid, while sitting up. I didn't see this right away, just after probably 10 times, and its actually at 1:54 where I saw it.
Did you read all the posts and watch those photos? That's just an illusion.
There's no mask, just paramedic's uniform.
Why you only see what you WANT to see? :S
Yes, I read all the posts and saw those pictures. I dont see what I want to see, I see what I see. Those pics you posted are a bit blurry, and the least they look to me is something like the badge on the paramedic's uniform. If that white spot is part of their uniform, then this paramedic is headless. There is a split second in that video where I can see a person with wide eyes looking straight at the camera. I cant tell if its MJ, of course, but to me it seemed like a person's half-covered face, and not like a paramedic's uniform badge, sorry. Maybe its the illusion of someone's face or maybe is the illusion of the paramedic's badge.
The only thing I find strange is that bodyguard take everybody out from the home but there is A FAN, inside, trying to keep paparazzi away ??
So
there was no more employee
there was only bodyguard
there was one fan INSIDE, at the door, trying to prevent video to be taken (ok we see him on the video)
There are paramedics with there own clothes from paramedics guy
There is Michael Jackson supposedly DEAD, so not stand on his 2 feet
SO WHO THE HELL IS THE GUY WITH BLUE SHIRT STANDING NEAR THE AMBULANCE INSIDE THE HOUSE, THAT CAN BE SEEN BETWEEN THE GATES ??? <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->
When Ben says "there was a bodyguard and a fan" did you notice how he is looking for his words right after "hum..to euh...trying very hard for video not to be taken...Then he looks somewhere else...
What happen Ben ? You are ashamed you took the video of Michael dead, or do you realise Michael can be seen on the video, while you're watching it again ?
The only thing I find strange is that bodyguard take everybody out from the home but there is A FAN, inside, trying to keep paparazzi away ??
So
there was no more employee
there was only bodyguard
there was one fan INSIDE, at the door, trying to prevent video to be taken (ok we see him on the video)
There are paramedics with there own clothes from paramedics guy
There is Michael Jackson supposedly DEAD, so not stand on his 2 feet
SO WHO THE HELL IS THE GUY WITH BLUE SHIRT STANDING NEAR THE AMBULANCE INSIDE THE HOUSE, THAT CAN BE SEEN BETWEEN THE GATES ??? <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->
When Ben says "there was a bodyguard and a fan" did you notice how he is looking for his words right after "hum..to euh...trying very hard for video not to be taken...Then he looks somewhere else...
What happen Ben ? You are ashamed you took the video of Michael dead, or do you realise Michael can be seen on the video, while you're watching it again ?
The fire truck was also the nu,ber 71?? <!-- s --><!-- s -->
Yes. This is very common. Departments typically use their same department number for their apparatus. So some places may have a Rescue 71, Engine 71, Tanker 71, Forestry 71, etc. Sometimes they add another number such as Rescue 532, Engine 232, Service 632, etc.
I want to mention this because I haven't seen it brought up. The person lifting the stretcher seems to be the same person that is walking in to UCLA pushing the stretcher (which some people believe is Michael sitting up on the stretcher). Look at the hair. It makes a lot of sense. I also want to mention that the person lifting the stretcher definitely had a patient on it. You can tell by the manner in which he lifts it. There's definitely weight on the stretcher.
Okay I watched it again and yes it's paramedic inside the amb. But no Michael....
But compared with the ambulance pic, the inside of the truck doesn't match with the inside we see on the amb. Know what I mean?
And did anybody see his body on that stretcher for the split second? I don't. Only the person with that blue shirt on ( Is that supposed to tbe the fan or who is it?)
And I still think it's very odd, that it was so quiet there...Just him and the 3 other guys and 2 fans....
Okay I watched it again and yes it's paramedic inside the amb. But no Michael....
But compared with the ambulance pic, the inside of the truck doesn't match with the inside we see on the amb. Know what I mean?
And did anybody see his body on that stretcher for the split second? I don't. Only the person with that blue shirt on ( Is that supposed to tbe the fan or who is it?)
And I still think it's very odd, that it was so quiet there...Just him and the 3 other guys and 2 fans....
THE BLUE SHIRT PERSON IS MJ, DOT.
BEN SAY IN THAT VIDEO THAT MICHAEL... BLABLABLA IN THE SECOND WE SEE THIS BLUESHIRT PERSON <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
Okay I watched it again and yes it's paramedic inside the amb. But no Michael....
But compared with the ambulance pic, the inside of the truck doesn't match with the inside we see on the amb. Know what I mean?
And did anybody see his body on that stretcher for the split second? I don't. Only the person with that blue shirt on ( Is that supposed to tbe the fan or who is it?)
And I still think it's very odd, that it was so quiet there...Just him and the 3 other guys and 2 fans....
THE BLUE SHIRT PERSON IS MJ, DOT.
BEN SAY IN THAT VIDEO THAT MICHAEL... BLABLABLA IN THE SECOND WE SEE THIS BLUESHIRT PERSON <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
ooooh dammit I think I have to watch it again and look even more closer <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
IDK But could it be other paramedic who's also guiding out the ambulance out of the property? Because it looks like this person has short hair...but like I said...it's too fast to recognize...it could also be MJ...I think have squared eyes now
Okay I watched it again and yes it's paramedic inside the amb. But no Michael....
But compared with the ambulance pic, the inside of the truck doesn't match with the inside we see on the amb. Know what I mean?
And did anybody see his body on that stretcher for the split second? I don't. Only the person with that blue shirt on ( Is that supposed to tbe the fan or who is it?)
And I still think it's very odd, that it was so quiet there...Just him and the 3 other guys and 2 fans....
THE BLUE SHIRT PERSON IS MJ, DOT.
BEN SAY IN THAT VIDEO THAT MICHAEL... BLABLABLA IN THE SECOND WE SEE THIS BLUESHIRT PERSON <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
ooooh dammit I think I have to watch it again and look even more closer <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
The only thing I find strange is that bodyguard take everybody out from the home but there is A FAN, inside, trying to keep paparazzi away ??
So
there was no more employee
there was only bodyguard
there was one fan INSIDE, at the door, trying to prevent video to be taken (ok we see him on the video)
There are paramedics with there own clothes from paramedics guy
There is Michael Jackson supposedly DEAD, so not stand on his 2 feet
SO WHO THE HELL IS THE GUY WITH BLUE SHIRT STANDING NEAR THE AMBULANCE INSIDE THE HOUSE, THAT CAN BE SEEN BETWEEN THE GATES ??? <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->
When Ben says "there was a bodyguard and a fan" did you notice how he is looking for his words right after "hum..to euh...trying very hard for video not to be taken...Then he looks somewhere else...
What happen Ben ? You are ashamed you took the video of Michael dead, or do you realise Michael can be seen on the video, while you're watching it again ?
Wow those pictures I had to stare long and hard but I finally see what you guys <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
That is amazing long sleeve short sleeves those EMT's had short sleeves shirts where did the long sleeve paramedic come from <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> ???
I still have 1 question that's heavy on my shoulders about this ambulance stuff. If this has already been answered sorry for me being slow but please bare with me. If this is so "real" then how come they were loading Michael in the truck the wrong way? Or did they switch him around? Because his head was suppose to go first just in case the doors fly open and the patient rolls out they will go feet first <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> That is what's had me all this time about that ambulance stuff not being real because that's basic procedure <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
Wow those pictures I had to stare long and hard but I finally see what you guys <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
That is amazing long sleeve short sleeves those EMT's had short sleeves shirts where did the long sleeve paramedic come from <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> ???
I still have 1 question that's heavy on my shoulders about this ambulance stuff. If this has already been answered sorry for me being slow but please bare with me. If this is so "real" then how come they were loading Michael in the truck the wrong way? Or did they switch him around? Because his head was suppose to go first just in case the doors fly open and the patient rolls out they will go feet first <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> That is what's had me all this time about that ambulance stuff not being real because that's basic procedure <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
He's being put in head first. It's impossible to do it any other way.
so if ben and his team were able to capture a second of them loading the stretcher near the gate, does that mean they wheeled him from the front door of the house??
You know, it was an emergency that needed to be witnessed.
Everything needed some proof.
We were even given proofs of proof. (Ben's pic of Christopher taking "the" pic.)
So it was creation of heavy duty evidence.
When do you need that?
When you want to make sure that the evidence gets to where it is intended to go and nothing must go wrong about it.
Double safety layer to get a very important case straight by all means.
We remember that the ambulance was backing out from around the middle of the court.
The shots at the gate would mean that they wheeled the person to the gate to get some blurry evidence pictures while putting the stretcher in the ambulance at the gate.
Then the ambulance would manage to get back and fourth up to the middle of the court for the backing out scene.
These "different proof shots" at different angles tell me that not only the videos on the street were produced at least twice (with pylones, without pylones etc., different shadow lengths) as we have seen but also that there are several shots for inside videos - or that this speaks for two ambulances: one near the gate hidden and the one backing out from the middle of the court that we were presented in the first videos.
Ben said they were several persons shooting. But this does not explain the different videos and his very obvious difficulties to explain the story.
At least he bought himself a new bosses' chair for this interview ... <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
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I see a paramedic as well, look at his badge. The fun part is that he has long sleeves, while the one on the official pic has short sleeves <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."To me the picture is not clear enough to say that his sleeves are shot or long. Sorry
WTF? <!-- s
I think it's obivous that looks like what we've seen in the pic we got from Ben. (At least to me)
That doesn't mean it was Michael, still, I see a person lying on the stretcher.
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And about the mask, that's just an illusion, it's not a mask is just a symbol on the paramedic's uniform:
So
there was no more employee
there was only bodyguard
there was one fan INSIDE, at the door, trying to prevent video to be taken (ok we see him on the video)
There are paramedics with there own clothes from paramedics guy
There is Michael Jackson supposedly DEAD, so not stand on his 2 feet
SO WHO THE HELL IS THE GUY WITH BLUE SHIRT STANDING NEAR THE AMBULANCE INSIDE THE HOUSE, THAT CAN BE SEEN BETWEEN THE GATES ??? <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->
When Ben says "there was a bodyguard and a fan" did you notice how he is looking for his words right after "hum..to euh...trying very hard for video not to be taken...Then he looks somewhere else...
What happen Ben ? You are ashamed you took the video of Michael dead, or do you realise Michael can be seen on the video, while you're watching it again ?
The man wearing that blue shirt
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I usually dont believe in these things, but I must say that I saw the same thing <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> ...Someone wearing a white mask and looking straight at the camera with huge eyes, like they're afraid, while sitting up. I didn't see this right away, just after probably 10 times, and its actually at 1:54 where I saw it.
Did you read all the posts and watch those photos? That's just an illusion.
There's no mask, just paramedic's uniform.
Why you only see what you WANT to see? :S
Yes, I read all the posts and saw those pictures. I dont see what I want to see, I see what I see. Those pics you posted are a bit blurry, and the least they look to me is something like the badge on the paramedic's uniform. If that white spot is part of their uniform, then this paramedic is headless. There is a split second in that video where I can see a person with wide eyes looking straight at the camera. I cant tell if its MJ, of course, but to me it seemed like a person's half-covered face, and not like a paramedic's uniform badge, sorry. Maybe its the illusion of someone's face or maybe is the illusion of the paramedic's badge.
Thank you <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
Who's got my Jacket ? Where's my Jacket please ! God, I need my Jacket... <!-- s
yes, same here!
But compared with the ambulance pic, the inside of the truck doesn't match with the inside we see on the amb. Know what I mean?
And did anybody see his body on that stretcher for the split second? I don't. Only the person with that blue shirt on ( Is that supposed to tbe the fan or who is it?)
And I still think it's very odd, that it was so quiet there...Just him and the 3 other guys and 2 fans....
THE BLUE SHIRT PERSON IS MJ, DOT.
BEN SAY IN THAT VIDEO THAT MICHAEL... BLABLABLA IN THE SECOND WE SEE THIS BLUESHIRT PERSON <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
ooooh dammit I think I have to watch it again and look even more closer <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
IDK But could it be other paramedic who's also guiding out the ambulance out of the property? Because it looks like this person has short hair...but like I said...it's too fast to recognize...it could also be MJ...I think have squared eyes now
Not Michael
That is amazing long sleeve short sleeves those EMT's had short sleeves shirts where did the long sleeve paramedic come from <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> ???
I still have 1 question that's heavy on my shoulders about this ambulance stuff. If this has already been answered sorry for me being slow but please bare with me. If this is so "real" then how come they were loading Michael in the truck the wrong way? Or did they switch him around? Because his head was suppose to go first just in case the doors fly open and the patient rolls out they will go feet first <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> That is what's had me all this time about that ambulance stuff not being real because that's basic procedure <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
You know, it was an emergency that needed to be witnessed.
Everything needed some proof.
We were even given proofs of proof. (Ben's pic of Christopher taking "the" pic.)
So it was creation of heavy duty evidence.
When do you need that?
When you want to make sure that the evidence gets to where it is intended to go and nothing must go wrong about it.
Double safety layer to get a very important case straight by all means.
We remember that the ambulance was backing out from around the middle of the court.
The shots at the gate would mean that they wheeled the person to the gate to get some blurry evidence pictures while putting the stretcher in the ambulance at the gate.
Then the ambulance would manage to get back and fourth up to the middle of the court for the backing out scene.
These "different proof shots" at different angles tell me that not only the videos on the street were produced at least twice (with pylones, without pylones etc., different shadow lengths) as we have seen but also that there are several shots for inside videos - or that this speaks for two ambulances: one near the gate hidden and the one backing out from the middle of the court that we were presented in the first videos.
Ben said they were several persons shooting. But this does not explain the different videos and his very obvious difficulties to explain the story.
At least he bought himself a new bosses' chair for this interview ... <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->