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I really wanted to hear this but I can't hear a thing! Why this woman always pick the noisiest setting? Why can't she go someplace quiet and private so we can hear? (Grrrr - very frustrating) By the way, did you see the guy in background who look exactly like MJ? Well, Thanks piggy I just wish she would mute out the background noise <!-- s:( -->:(<!-- s:( -->
What??? So "God" led her to try and manipulate him too???? She knew him soooo well yet she didn't know why he chose whom he chose for his videos????? He was attracted to all of his leading ladies (Naomi Campbell, Ola Ray, etc). OMG, PLEEEEZE nooo more Tatiana threads!!! She was a groupie and a lunatic who lived in a fantasy world. If he loved her, she would've been Bubble's adopted mother for goodness sake. Research this crazy woman before falling into her dellusional trap. He was the "love of her life" but after she got fired she started slandering his name during the molestation scandal. Also, did you guys know that she hooked-up with Prince as well????? That's why she looked stooped when asked if there were others. There was also one of the guys from that 80's group Milli Vanilli. She was desperate for a meal ticket. Frank may not have been the best representation for MJ at times but he was right on the money with his analysis about her. She tried to retaliate and capatalize off of his success with her horribly written book, now she's trying to cash-in on his death.
If you truly LOVE MJ, respect him for firing her. It was HIS decision---not Frank's or anyone else.
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Man I hope she didn't mess with Jermaine. There also rumors that Jermaine was with Nanny Grace too. He already mess with one of his brother's women not to be mean but it's true. If Tatiana did that she definitely tried to get back at Mike and make him jealous. Did you guys know Tatiana was in the opening theme of Different World the show about black college students that came on after Cosby show? <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
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Man I hope she didn't mess with Jermaine. There also rumors that Jermaine was with Nanny Grace too. He already mess with one of his brother's women not to be mean but it's true. If Tatiana did that she definitely tried to get back at Mike and make him jealous. Did you guys know Tatiana was in the opening theme of Different World the show about black college students that came on after Cosby show? <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
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She may have who knows. It wouldn't shock me. I was soooo disgusted with her during the molestation fiasco; that was the last thing that he needed. I have major respect for Prince because after he was done with her, they bumped into each other a little while later and he lit into her for slandering MJ. He had no respect for her either. Interesting how all of these men desired her, but they'd also married other women.
She may have given it up to Jermaine--who knows. Joe Jackson became her "manager" after MJ fired her because he felt sorry for her. He didn't know how to market her because she couldn't do anything but dance--and she wasn't really a good dancer. Jermaine and Randy have children with the same women. She still lives at the family home to this day.
I was at that event and I have to tell you guys....she was VERY rude. Diva-esque. I was disappointed.
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OMG!!!! What happened???? She doesn't want anyone sharing her spotlight having been irrelevant for over 15 years. She can try to make a little cash again.
What??? So "God" led her to try and manipulate him too???? She knew him soooo well yet she didn't know why he chose whom he chose for his videos????? He was attracted to all of his leading ladies (Naomi Campbell, Ola Ray, etc). OMG, PLEEEEZE nooo more Tatiana threads!!! She was a groupie and a lunatic who lived in a fantasy world. If he loved her, she would've been Bubble's adopted mother for goodness sake. Research this crazy woman before falling into her dellusional trap. He was the "love of her life" but after she got fired she started slandering his name during the molestation scandal. Also, did you guys know that she hooked-up with Prince as well????? That's why she looked stooped when asked if there were others. There was also one of the guys from that 80's group Milli Vanilli. She was desperate for a meal ticket. Frank may not have been the best representation for MJ at times but he was right on the money with his analysis about her. She tried to retaliate and capatalize off of his success with her horribly written book, now she's trying to cash-in on his death.
If you truly LOVE MJ, respect him for firing her. It was HIS decision---not Frank's or anyone else.
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I agree with both you of you. I have no idea why she's coming out of the woodwork after all of this time? Seriously, noone cares about her and how she will always love MJ. She has no concept of what love is as far as I am concerned. Love doesn't kick someone when they're down. That is why her life in the industry never amounted to much. Women like her are a dime a dozen. She tried all those years to use her beauty to manipulate, now look at her! The looks are fadding fast and now she's trying to make money off of MJ being in exile. What a snake? Personally, I never thought she was all that back then. It's not the surface that matters, it's the content of one's character. Clearly, she needs to move forward because MJ's fan know what she's really about and so does the Industry. Keep the Faith!
roxy101 wrote:I was at that event and I have to tell you guys....she was VERY rude. Diva-esque. I was disappointed.
REALLY?CAN U PLZ EXPLAIN WHAT SHE DID DURING THE EVENT?HONESTLY, I USED TO LIKE HER , SO SOME SAY THAT SHE DEMAGED MJ'S REPUTATION DURING THE TRIAL BUT I DONT EXACTLY KNOW HOW, IF SOMEONE KNOWS CAN U PLZ TELL ME WHAT SHE SAID EXACTLY ABOUT M.J DURING THE MOLESTATION TRIAL ???CAUSE I REALLY USED TO LIKE HER, SHE WAS AN PERFECT WOMAN TO ME(I MEAN HER FACE).THANX BEFOREHAND
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I feel sorry for her, but I also thinks it's strange, that she diden't move on.... I'm not sure, but to me, it seems that she puts things in their relationship, that wasen't there <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> It's easy to say for her NOW, that they were ment for eachother, cause he's not here ( so to say ). I have mixed feelings about her.
I feel sorry for her, but I also thinks it's strange, that she diden't move on.... I'm not sure, but to me, it seems that she puts things in their relationship, that wasen't there <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> It's easy to say for her NOW, that they were ment for eachother, cause he's not here ( so to say ). I have mixed feelings about her.
I am sorry but I don't feel sorry for her at all. She's a grown a_ _ woman and she knows exactly what she's doing. She's trying to bring attention to herself through MJ from the past. She never came out before he went into exile after all those years and said she knew they were meant for one another. Why? Because she knew MJ would refute her outright and cause her embarrassment. If you notice, none of MJ's family, associates or anyone that mattered in his life is paying her any attention. She needs to move forward and let go of what she thought was meant to be. My feelings about her are clear. She's an opportunist without a life of her own. Keep the Faith!
roxy101 wrote:I was at that event and I have to tell you guys....she was VERY rude. Diva-esque. I was disappointed.
REALLY?CAN U PLZ EXPLAIN WHAT SHE DID DURING THE EVENT?HONESTLY, I USED TO LIKE HER , SO SOME SAY THAT SHE DEMAGED MJ'S REPUTATION DURING THE TRIAL BUT I DONT EXACTLY KNOW HOW, IF SOMEONE KNOWS CAN U PLZ TELL ME WHAT SHE SAID EXACTLY ABOUT M.J DURING THE MOLESTATION TRIAL ???CAUSE I REALLY USED TO LIKE HER, SHE WAS AN PERFECT WOMAN TO ME(I MEAN HER FACE).THANX BEFOREHAND
When the kid came forth with the allegations, she started shopping for a book deal. She got one, and made it a point to use the media to get back at MJ. She alleged that many high profile men wanted her,and that she was offering it to MJ on a silver platter and he said "No thanks...". She said he'd spent more time with young boys than her.
I was fortunate enough to spend time with a guy who worked for MJJ productions many years ago who was very, very loyal to the team. There were sooo many things going on inside that would shock us if we knew. MJ was damn near paranoid. His staff were in check 24/7, and if he felt that someone was incompetant or sneaky, they got fired. My acquaintance said that he was extremely generous as well. If you worked hard, he saw it and you were rewarded. Tatiana was obsessed with him. She would use her connections to get to video shoots and places where she knew he would be. She wasn't discreet about her motives which is why people were questioning what her plan was. She was bitchy with the crew, she would make it point to show up for rehearsals, follow him around trying to get him to spend time with her. There was no doubt that he was interested in her at first (he's a hetero male, she was young and attractive), but she was waaay too anxious and persistant. This behavior screams GROUPIE. Had she just remained professional, backed-off, kept quiet things may have been different. The kiss was never agreed upon. In her brain she was determined to be Mrs. Michael Jackson and no one was gonna stop her.The kiss was unplanned (she lies about the story all of the time). She knew that he liked her, she felt that he was moving too slow so she went for it thinking "It will either work, or I'll get major publicity for it." His management team didn't understand why she was on the payroll anyway, considering she has no talent--and her job was merely walk back and forth on stage during the number. She went to ballet school, but she wasn't a real dancer or choreographer. So, MJ felt uncomfortable about her, he'd been hearing things from his staff and around town--therefore she got the boot! It was HIS decision. Management supported it. After she got fired, she continued to try to get to him. It was pretty pathetic. She actually went to Joe Jackson for help. There wasn't much that he could do because Michael hadn't been speaking to his family around that time (he rarely even talked to his Mom). Joe couldn't get her a job (except on talk shows to tell the story), and that was moreso to help MJ than her. Joe was trying to get back in his good graces. She doesn't really have any talent. Katherine jumped on the bandwagon because she just wanted to see her son portrayed in a different light (as a man who'd actually loved women). So, she moved and met Prince. That didn't last either.
Isn't it great that michael never gossiped about her I don't like the sound of her she sounds pushy and michael rejected her for a reason so I trust his judgment
Now I think she is milking it for all she can get
Michael didn't talk about her good for him he rose above it
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2MuchMJLuv thank u so much for clearing it up, i have just finished reading the Tapes and yes, there was a part when MJ speaks about her(not mentioning her name but it's clear)and about those girls who acted in his short films, he said that he had to like the girl in order to act as if they were in love with each other in his videos, but he also said that many of them were clingy and fell in love with him, he didnt need it but cause he is a real gentleman he would not turm them down personally but with the help of his stuff. I havent heard that she said such horrible things about the trial and child-molestation, what a shame, i used to like her, if it a true fact then shame on her it's horrible <!-- s:( -->:(<!-- s:( -->
roxy101 wrote:I was at that event and I have to tell you guys....she was VERY rude. Diva-esque. I was disappointed.
REALLY?CAN U PLZ EXPLAIN WHAT SHE DID DURING THE EVENT?HONESTLY, I USED TO LIKE HER , SO SOME SAY THAT SHE DEMAGED MJ'S REPUTATION DURING THE TRIAL BUT I DONT EXACTLY KNOW HOW, IF SOMEONE KNOWS CAN U PLZ TELL ME WHAT SHE SAID EXACTLY ABOUT M.J DURING THE MOLESTATION TRIAL ???CAUSE I REALLY USED TO LIKE HER, SHE WAS AN PERFECT WOMAN TO ME(I MEAN HER FACE).THANX BEFOREHAND
When the kid came forth with the allegations, she started shopping for a book deal. She got one, and made it a point to use the media to get back at MJ. She alleged that many high profile men wanted her,and that she was offering it to MJ on a silver platter and he said "No thanks...". She said he'd spent more time with young boys than her.
I was fortunate enough to spend time with a guy who worked for MJJ productions many years ago who was very, very loyal to the team. There were sooo many things going on inside that would shock us if we knew. MJ was damn near paranoid. His staff were in check 24/7, and if he felt that someone was incompetant or sneaky, they got fired. My acquaintance said that he was extremely generous as well. If you worked hard, he saw it and you were rewarded. Tatiana was obsessed with him. She would use her connections to get to video shoots and places where she knew he would be. She wasn't discreet about her motives which is why people were questioning what her plan was. She was bitchy with the crew, she would make it point to show up for rehearsals, follow him around trying to get him to spend time with her. There was no doubt that he was interested in her at first (he's a hetero male, she was young and attractive), but she was waaay too anxious and persistant. This behavior screams GROUPIE. Had she just remained professional, backed-off, kept quiet things may have been different. The kiss was never agreed upon. In her brain she was determined to be Mrs. Michael Jackson and no one was gonna stop her.The kiss was unplanned (she lies about the story all of the time). She knew that he liked her, she felt that he was moving too slow so she went for it thinking "It will either work, or I'll get major publicity for it." His management team didn't understand why she was on the payroll anyway, considering she has no talent--and her job was merely walk back and forth on stage during the number. She went to ballet school, but she wasn't a real dancer or choreographer. So, MJ felt uncomfortable about her, he'd been hearing things from his staff and around town--therefore she got the boot! It was HIS decision. Management supported it. After she got fired, she continued to try to get to him. It was pretty pathetic. She actually went to Joe Jackson for help. There wasn't much that he could do because Michael hadn't been speaking to his family around that time (he rarely even talked to his Mom). Joe couldn't get her a job (except on talk shows to tell the story), and that was moreso to help MJ than her. Joe was trying to get back in his good graces. She doesn't really have any talent. Katherine jumped on the bandwagon because she just wanted to see her son portrayed in a different light (as a man who'd actually loved women). So, she moved and met Prince. That didn't last either.
Wow! Looks like everybody got a book out on MJ!!! <!-- s --><!-- s --> First it was his sister, then I was told Jermaine was trying to come out with a book a few years back, then it's this Ian with his garbage! Good grief!!! E'ery body!!!
I didint know about her statements during the trials. Even though I believe she was told to write so to gain more publicity and drag Mr.Jackson's name into the dirt it only shows how weak of a person you truly are. She didin't love Michael, she used him.
My opinion of her has already been spoken by 2Much2Luv and Sweet1 <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> I agree with both you guys.
And roxy101, thanks for the info, normally people tell me she's so sweet in person but they're probably just star struck or something. Not that she's a star or anything, but just the fact that she was in a Michael Jackson video, and a main one at that..
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If you truly LOVE MJ, respect him for firing her. It was HIS decision---not Frank's or anyone else.
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Man I hope she didn't mess with Jermaine. There also rumors that Jermaine was with Nanny Grace too. He already mess with one of his brother's women not to be mean but it's true. If Tatiana did that she definitely tried to get back at Mike and make him jealous. Did you guys know Tatiana was in the opening theme of Different World the show about black college students that came on after Cosby show? <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
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She may have who knows. It wouldn't shock me. I was soooo disgusted with her during the molestation fiasco; that was the last thing that he needed. I have major respect for Prince because after he was done with her, they bumped into each other a little while later and he lit into her for slandering MJ. He had no respect for her either. Interesting how all of these men desired her, but they'd also married other women.
She may have given it up to Jermaine--who knows. Joe Jackson became her "manager" after MJ fired her because he felt sorry for her. He didn't know how to market her because she couldn't do anything but dance--and she wasn't really a good dancer. Jermaine and Randy have children with the same women. She still lives at the family home to this day.
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OMG!!!! What happened???? She doesn't want anyone sharing her spotlight having been irrelevant for over 15 years. She can try to make a little cash again.
I agree with both you of you. I have no idea why she's coming out of the woodwork after all of this time? Seriously, noone cares about her and how she will always love MJ. She has no concept of what love is as far as I am concerned. Love doesn't kick someone when they're down. That is why her life in the industry never amounted to much. Women like her are a dime a dozen. She tried all those years to use her beauty to manipulate, now look at her! The looks are fadding fast and now she's trying to make money off of MJ being in exile. What a snake? Personally, I never thought she was all that back then. It's not the surface that matters, it's the content of one's character. Clearly, she needs to move forward because MJ's fan know what she's really about and so does the Industry. Keep the Faith!
REALLY?CAN U PLZ EXPLAIN WHAT SHE DID DURING THE EVENT?HONESTLY, I USED TO LIKE HER , SO SOME SAY THAT SHE DEMAGED MJ'S REPUTATION DURING THE TRIAL BUT I DONT EXACTLY KNOW HOW, IF SOMEONE KNOWS CAN U PLZ TELL ME WHAT SHE SAID EXACTLY ABOUT M.J DURING THE MOLESTATION TRIAL ???CAUSE I REALLY USED TO LIKE HER, SHE WAS AN PERFECT WOMAN TO ME(I MEAN HER FACE).THANX BEFOREHAND
I am sorry but I don't feel sorry for her at all. She's a grown a_ _ woman and she knows exactly what she's doing. She's trying to bring attention to herself through MJ from the past. She never came out before he went into exile after all those years and said she knew they were meant for one another. Why? Because she knew MJ would refute her outright and cause her embarrassment. If you notice, none of MJ's family, associates or anyone that mattered in his life is paying her any attention. She needs to move forward and let go of what she thought was meant to be. My feelings about her are clear. She's an opportunist without a life of her own. Keep the Faith!
When the kid came forth with the allegations, she started shopping for a book deal. She got one, and made it a point to use the media to get back at MJ. She alleged that many high profile men wanted her,and that she was offering it to MJ on a silver platter and he said "No thanks...". She said he'd spent more time with young boys than her.
I was fortunate enough to spend time with a guy who worked for MJJ productions many years ago who was very, very loyal to the team. There were sooo many things going on inside that would shock us if we knew. MJ was damn near paranoid. His staff were in check 24/7, and if he felt that someone was incompetant or sneaky, they got fired. My acquaintance said that he was extremely generous as well. If you worked hard, he saw it and you were rewarded. Tatiana was obsessed with him. She would use her connections to get to video shoots and places where she knew he would be. She wasn't discreet about her motives which is why people were questioning what her plan was. She was bitchy with the crew, she would make it point to show up for rehearsals, follow him around trying to get him to spend time with her. There was no doubt that he was interested in her at first (he's a hetero male, she was young and attractive), but she was waaay too anxious and persistant. This behavior screams GROUPIE. Had she just remained professional, backed-off, kept quiet things may have been different. The kiss was never agreed upon. In her brain she was determined to be Mrs. Michael Jackson and no one was gonna stop her.The kiss was unplanned (she lies about the story all of the time). She knew that he liked her, she felt that he was moving too slow so she went for it thinking "It will either work, or I'll get major publicity for it." His management team didn't understand why she was on the payroll anyway, considering she has no talent--and her job was merely walk back and forth on stage during the number. She went to ballet school, but she wasn't a real dancer or choreographer. So, MJ felt uncomfortable about her, he'd been hearing things from his staff and around town--therefore she got the boot! It was HIS decision. Management supported it. After she got fired, she continued to try to get to him. It was pretty pathetic. She actually went to Joe Jackson for help. There wasn't much that he could do because Michael hadn't been speaking to his family around that time (he rarely even talked to his Mom). Joe couldn't get her a job (except on talk shows to tell the story), and that was moreso to help MJ than her. Joe was trying to get back in his good graces. She doesn't really have any talent. Katherine jumped on the bandwagon because she just wanted to see her son portrayed in a different light (as a man who'd actually loved women). So, she moved and met Prince. That didn't last either.
Now I think she is milking it for all she can get
Michael didn't talk about her good for him he rose above it
All I can say is that imo, MJ decided with who to be with.
He had no problems showing up with LMP or Debbie Rowe, he married them as well.
IDK if MJ had a relation with Tatiana in the secret. It could have been happening as well to keep the paparazzis away.
If MJ and Tatiana at the end were never together, then one of the parties was not for it, and looks that it was MJ most likely.
Do they even need to wink?
Wow! Looks like everybody got a book out on MJ!!! <!-- s --><!-- s --> First it was his sister, then I was told Jermaine was trying to come out with a book a few years back, then it's this Ian with his garbage! Good grief!!! E'ery body!!!
And roxy101, thanks for the info, normally people tell me she's so sweet in person but they're probably just star struck or something. Not that she's a star or anything, but just the fact that she was in a Michael Jackson video, and a main one at that..