Michael and Marijuana

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  • I have tryed and tryed on here to tell everyone that MJ is freeing the MJ. Who is the girl he always talked about. What girl is Invincible? What girl is dangerous? Should we trust MJ over morphine? You bet! Strange disease with no cure, HAHA he said. "MJ" Michael the archangel reveals and is the trumpet blower for the tree of life. I know the redirects sometimes go to bible verses. Can anyone disprove any of these verses or information. Just remember its a demonstration for freedom. What is in prison that must be freed? "MJ" The part of the message we keep failing to see. He didn't have all these tons of sorcery pharmacy drugs in his house just for giggles. Pure Genius!! But really just one who let God guide him down that straight and narrow!

    Is it really true that the leaves of the tree are for the healing of the nations? (Revelation 22:2) Is it really true that the leaves are for medicine? (Ezekiel 47:12) Is it really true that the anointing oil breaks the yoke of our bondage? (Isaiah 10:27) Is it really true that Jesus taught his apostles to anoint the sick with oil? (Mark 6:13) Is it really true that a plant God gave us that has tons of potential to do good isn't allowed due to greed, hate, and racism? Is it really true that Matthew 7:18 says A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Is it really true that the field is wasted and the oil fails? (Joel 1:10) Is it true that oil might be a desirable treasure for a wise man? (Proverbs 21:20) Is it true that God will raise up for us a plant of renown? (Ezekiel 34:29) Is it true that if we obey and overcome that we are allowed to eat of the tree of life? (Revelation 2:7) Is it true that God told us a certain leaf would fade? (Jeremiah 8:13) Is it true that Jeremiah also said the herbs would wither? (Jeremiah 12:4) Is it true that prohibition against certain meats or herbs angers the Lord? (I Timothy 4:1-11) Is it really true that we are to study to show thyself approved? ( II Timothy 2:15) Is it really true that God made all herbs that yield seed and said that they are good? (Genesis 1:11-12, 29-30) Is it really true that your cup runs over once anointed with oil? (Psalm 23:5) Is it true that the wise men brought oil "the gold" to the birth of Jesus? (Matthew 2:11) Is it true that Jesus wants us to buy his gold? (Revelation 3:18) Is it really true that best medicine ever is the anointing oil? (Exodus 30:22-25) Is it true that James wrote to anoint the sick with the oil of the Lord? (James 5:14) Is it true that the anointing teaches us? (I John 2:20-27) Is it really true that the herb is for the service of men? (Psalm 104:14-15) Is it true that Jesus taught us to observe ALL things he taught? (Matthew 28:20) Is it true that oil was brought to the tomb where Jesus lay? (Mark 16:1, Luke 24:1, John 19:39-40) Is it true that the ones who does His commandments will have the right to the tree of life? (Revelation 22:14) Is it really true that we are deceived by sorcery and that sorcery is PHARMAKIA in original Hebrew language? (Revelation 18:23) Is it really true that the ointment of the Lord heals wounds, bruises, sores plus much more? (Isaiah 1:6) Is it true that sweet calamus,fragrant cane, fragrant calamus, aromatic cane, sweet smelling cane all translate out in original Hebrew to Kaneh-Bosm? Is it true that Kaneh-Bosm is the Hebrew world for Cannabis or Hemp Blossoms which was used in the anointing oil that was so broadly talked about in the Holy Bible but is silent in the Church today? Is it really true that cannabis is a plant that grows from a seed that God said was good? IT IS TRUE THAT THE FRUIT HEALS AND NOT KILLS!!!!GOD BLESS EVERYONE!!!!!! It is truly time to stand up and be bold about the Word of God and doing what he has commanded and demonstrated to us. We must wake up and realize the gift that we waste. There is no more time to waste. There is no longer no excuse for lack of knowledge. We are destroyed for lack of knowledge! ( Hosea 4:6) The cures to these diseases come from the Word and are wrote clear right between the pages of Scripture. Is it true that we are not being persecuted today because of our omission to do the things that Jesus did teach and command us to do? Faith is action that takes courage to use the knowledge given to obtain wisdom! All things are possible with GOD!
    am i understanding you to say that this hoax was done to get marijuana legalized ?

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    i am not quite sure how you meant this but let me just say this

    i love you mmmmmooooooooooosssssssssttttttttttttttttt
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  • JudeJude Posts: 452
    HEMP IS ILLEGAL BECAUSE BILLIONAIRES WANT TO REMAIN BILLIONAIRES!

    THE TRICKS

    Andrew Mellon became Hoover's Secretary of the Treasury and Dupont's primary investor. He appointed his future nephew-in-law, Harry J. Anslinger, to head the Federal Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs.

    Secret meetings were held by these financial tycoons. Hemp was declared dangerous and a threat to their billion dollar enterprises. For their dynasties to remain intact, hemp had to go. These men took an obscure Mexican slang word: 'marihuana' and pushed it into the consciousness of America.


    MEDIA MANIPULATION

    A media blitz of 'yellow journalism' raged in the late 1920s and 1930s. Hearst's newspapers ran stories emphasizing the horrors of marihuana. The menace of marihuana made headlines. Readers learned that it was responsible for everything from car accidents to loose morality.

    Films like 'Reefer Madness' (1936), 'Marihuana: Assassin of Youth' (1935) and 'Marihuana: The Devil's Weed' (1936) were propaganda designed by these industrialists to create an enemy. Their purpose was to gain public support so that anti-marihuana laws could be passed.

    Examine the following quotes from 'The Burning Question' aka REEFER
    MADNESS:
    *a violent narcotic.
    *acts of shocking violence.
    *incurable insanity.
    *soul-destroying effects.
    *under the influence of the drug he killed his entire family with an axe.
    *more vicious, more deadly even than these soul-destroying drugs (heroin, cocaine) is the menace of marihuana!

    Reefer Madness did not end with the usual 'the end.' The film concluded with these words plastered on the screen: TELL YOUR CHILDREN.

    In the 1930s, people were very naive; even to the point of ignorance. The masses were like sheep waiting to be led by the few in power. They did not challenge authority. If the news was in print or on the radio, they believed it had to be true. They told their children and their children grew up to be the parents of the baby-boomers.

    On April 14, 1937, the Prohibitive Marihuana Tax Law or the bill that outlawed hemp was directly brought to the House Ways and Means Committee. This committee is the only one that can introduce a bill to the House floor without it being debated by other committees. The Chairman of the Ways and Means, Robert Doughton, was a Dupont supporter. He insured that the bill would pass Congress.

    Dr. James Woodward, a physician and attorney, testified too late on behalf of the American Medical Association. He told the committee that the reason the AMA had not denounced the Marihuana Tax Law sooner was that the Association had just discovered that marihuana was/is hemp.

    Few people, at the time, realized that the deadly menace they had been reading about on Hearst's front pages was in fact passive hemp. The AMA understood hemp to be a MEDICINE found in numerous healing products sold over the last hundred years.

    In September of 1937, hemp became illegal. The most useful crop known became a drug and our planet has been suffering ever since.

    Congress banned hemp because it was said to be the most violence-causing drug known. Anslinger, head of the Drug Commission for 31 years, promoted the idea that marihuana made users act extremely violent. In the 1950s, under the Communist threat of McCarthyism, Anslinger now said the exact opposite. Marijuana will pacify you so much that soldiers would not want to fight.

    Today, our planet is in desperate trouble. Earth is suffocating as large tracts of rain forests disappear. Pollution, poisons and chemicals are killing people. These great problems could be reversed if we industrialized hemp. Natural biomass could provide all of the planet's energy needs that are currently supplied by fossil fuels. We have consumed 80% of our oil and gas reserves. We need a renewable resource. Hemp could be the solution to soaring gas prices.


    THE WONDER PLANT

    Hemp has a higher quality fiber than wood fiber. Far fewer caustic chemicals are required to make paper from hemp than from trees. Hemp paper does not turn yellow and is very durable. The plant grows quickly to maturity in a season where trees take a lifetime.

    ALL PLASTIC PRODUCTS SHOULD BE MADE FROM HEMP SEED OIL. Hempen plastics are biodegradable! Over time, they would break down and not harm the environment. Oil-based plastics, the ones we are very familiar with, help ruin nature; they do not break down and will do great harm in the future. The process to produce the vast array of natural (hempen) plastics will not ruin the rivers as Dupont and other petrochemical companies have done. Ecology does not fit in with the plans of the Oil Industry and the political machine. Hemp products are safe and natural.

    MEDICINES SHOULD BE MADE FROM HEMP. We should go back to the days when the AMA supported hemp cures. 'Medical Marijuana' is given out legally to only a handful of people while the rest of us are forced into a system that relies on chemicals. Hemp is only healthy for the human body.

    WORLD HUNGER COULD END. A large variety of food products can be generated from hemp. The seeds contain one of the highest sources of protein in nature. ALSO: They have two essential fatty acids that clean your body of cholesterol. These essential fatty acids are not found anywhere else in nature! Consuming hemp seeds is the best thing you could do for your body. Eat uncooked hemp seeds.

    CLOTHES SHOULD BE MADE FROM HEMP. Hemp clothing is extremely strong and durable over time. You could hand clothing, made from hemp, down to your grandchildren. Today, there are American companies that make hemp clothing; usually 50% hemp. Hemp fabrics should be everywhere. Instead, they are almost underground. Superior hemp products are not allowed to advertise on fascist television. Kentucky, once the top hemp producing state, made it ILLEGAL TO WEAR hemp clothing! Can you imagine being thrown into jail for wearing quality jeans?

    The world is crazy...but that does not mean you have to join the insanity. Get together. Spread the news. Tell people, and that includes your children, the truth. Use hemp products. Eliminate the word 'marijuana.' Realize the history that created it. Make it politically incorrect to say or print the M-word. Fight against the propaganda (designed to favor the agenda of the super rich) and the bullshit. Hemp must be utilized in the future. We need a clean energy source to save our planet. INDUSTRIALIZE HEMP!

    The liquor, tobacco and oil companies fund more than a million dollars a day to Partnership for a Drug-Free America and other similar agencies. We have all seen their commercials. Now, their motto is: 'It's more dangerous than we thought.' Lies from the powerful corporations, that began with Hearst, are still alive and well today.

    The brainwashing continues. Now, the commercials say: If you buy a joint, you contribute to murders and gang wars. The latest anti-hemp commercials say: If you buy a joint...you are promoting TERRORISM! The new enemy (terrorism) has paved the road to brainwash you any way THEY see fit.

    There is only one enemy; the friendly people you pay your taxes to; the war-makers and nature destroyers. With your funding, they are killing the world right in front of your eyes. HALF A MILLION DEATHS EACH YEAR ARE CAUSED BY TOBACCO. HALF A MILLION DEATHS EACH YEAR ARE CAUSED BY ALCOHOL.

    Ingesting THC, hemp's active agent, has a positive effect; relieving asthma and glaucoma. A joint tends to alleviate the nausea caused by chemotherapy. You are able to eat on hemp. This is a healthy state of being.

    The hemp plant is an ALIEN plant. There is physical evidence that hemp is not like any other plant on this planet. One could conclude that it was brought here for the benefit of humanity. Hemp is the ONLY plant where the males appear one way and the females appear very different, physically! No one ever speaks of males and females in regard to the plant kingdom because plants do not show their sexes; except for hemp. To determine what sex a certain, normal, Earthly plant is: You have to look internally, at its DNA. A male blade of grass (physically) looks exactly like a female blade of grass. The hemp plant has an intense sexuality.


    HEMP IS ILLEGAL BECAUSE BILLIONAIRES WANT TO REMAIN BILLIONAIRES!
  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    Well Jude <!-- s:mrgreen: -->:mrgreen:<!-- s:mrgreen: -->
  • JudeJude Posts: 452
    Well Jude <!-- s:mrgreen: -->:mrgreen:<!-- s:mrgreen: -->

    Well what? <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    What you typed Jude...
  • yes mike it has been an adventure <!-- s:| -->:|<!-- s:| -->
  • JudeJude Posts: 452
    What you typed Jude...

    I did'nt type anything, I did the lazy thing and copy pasted <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    It does not matter seems to me likely <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
  • HEMP IS ILLEGAL BECAUSE BILLIONAIRES WANT TO REMAIN BILLIONAIRES!

    THE TRICKS

    Andrew Mellon became Hoover's Secretary of the Treasury and Dupont's primary investor. He appointed his future nephew-in-law, Harry J. Anslinger, to head the Federal Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs.

    Secret meetings were held by these financial tycoons. Hemp was declared dangerous and a threat to their billion dollar enterprises. For their dynasties to remain intact, hemp had to go. These men took an obscure Mexican slang word: 'marihuana' and pushed it into the consciousness of America.


    MEDIA MANIPULATION

    A media blitz of 'yellow journalism' raged in the late 1920s and 1930s. Hearst's newspapers ran stories emphasizing the horrors of marihuana. The menace of marihuana made headlines. Readers learned that it was responsible for everything from car accidents to loose morality.

    Films like 'Reefer Madness' (1936), 'Marihuana: Assassin of Youth' (1935) and 'Marihuana: The Devil's Weed' (1936) were propaganda designed by these industrialists to create an enemy. Their purpose was to gain public support so that anti-marihuana laws could be passed.

    Examine the following quotes from 'The Burning Question' aka REEFER
    MADNESS:
    *a violent narcotic.
    *acts of shocking violence.
    *incurable insanity.
    *soul-destroying effects.
    *under the influence of the drug he killed his entire family with an axe.
    *more vicious, more deadly even than these soul-destroying drugs (heroin, cocaine) is the menace of marihuana!

    Reefer Madness did not end with the usual 'the end.' The film concluded with these words plastered on the screen: TELL YOUR CHILDREN.

    In the 1930s, people were very naive; even to the point of ignorance. The masses were like sheep waiting to be led by the few in power. They did not challenge authority. If the news was in print or on the radio, they believed it had to be true. They told their children and their children grew up to be the parents of the baby-boomers.

    On April 14, 1937, the Prohibitive Marihuana Tax Law or the bill that outlawed hemp was directly brought to the House Ways and Means Committee. This committee is the only one that can introduce a bill to the House floor without it being debated by other committees. The Chairman of the Ways and Means, Robert Doughton, was a Dupont supporter. He insured that the bill would pass Congress.

    Dr. James Woodward, a physician and attorney, testified too late on behalf of the American Medical Association. He told the committee that the reason the AMA had not denounced the Marihuana Tax Law sooner was that the Association had just discovered that marihuana was/is hemp.

    Few people, at the time, realized that the deadly menace they had been reading about on Hearst's front pages was in fact passive hemp. The AMA understood hemp to be a MEDICINE found in numerous healing products sold over the last hundred years.

    In September of 1937, hemp became illegal. The most useful crop known became a drug and our planet has been suffering ever since.

    Congress banned hemp because it was said to be the most violence-causing drug known. Anslinger, head of the Drug Commission for 31 years, promoted the idea that marihuana made users act extremely violent. In the 1950s, under the Communist threat of McCarthyism, Anslinger now said the exact opposite. Marijuana will pacify you so much that soldiers would not want to fight.

    Today, our planet is in desperate trouble. Earth is suffocating as large tracts of rain forests disappear. Pollution, poisons and chemicals are killing people. These great problems could be reversed if we industrialized hemp. Natural biomass could provide all of the planet's energy needs that are currently supplied by fossil fuels. We have consumed 80% of our oil and gas reserves. We need a renewable resource. Hemp could be the solution to soaring gas prices.


    THE WONDER PLANT

    Hemp has a higher quality fiber than wood fiber. Far fewer caustic chemicals are required to make paper from hemp than from trees. Hemp paper does not turn yellow and is very durable. The plant grows quickly to maturity in a season where trees take a lifetime.

    ALL PLASTIC PRODUCTS SHOULD BE MADE FROM HEMP SEED OIL. Hempen plastics are biodegradable! Over time, they would break down and not harm the environment. Oil-based plastics, the ones we are very familiar with, help ruin nature; they do not break down and will do great harm in the future. The process to produce the vast array of natural (hempen) plastics will not ruin the rivers as Dupont and other petrochemical companies have done. Ecology does not fit in with the plans of the Oil Industry and the political machine. Hemp products are safe and natural.

    MEDICINES SHOULD BE MADE FROM HEMP. We should go back to the days when the AMA supported hemp cures. 'Medical Marijuana' is given out legally to only a handful of people while the rest of us are forced into a system that relies on chemicals. Hemp is only healthy for the human body.

    WORLD HUNGER COULD END. A large variety of food products can be generated from hemp. The seeds contain one of the highest sources of protein in nature. ALSO: They have two essential fatty acids that clean your body of cholesterol. These essential fatty acids are not found anywhere else in nature! Consuming hemp seeds is the best thing you could do for your body. Eat uncooked hemp seeds.

    CLOTHES SHOULD BE MADE FROM HEMP. Hemp clothing is extremely strong and durable over time. You could hand clothing, made from hemp, down to your grandchildren. Today, there are American companies that make hemp clothing; usually 50% hemp. Hemp fabrics should be everywhere. Instead, they are almost underground. Superior hemp products are not allowed to advertise on fascist television. Kentucky, once the top hemp producing state, made it ILLEGAL TO WEAR hemp clothing! Can you imagine being thrown into jail for wearing quality jeans?

    The world is crazy...but that does not mean you have to join the insanity. Get together. Spread the news. Tell people, and that includes your children, the truth. Use hemp products. Eliminate the word 'marijuana.' Realize the history that created it. Make it politically incorrect to say or print the M-word. Fight against the propaganda (designed to favor the agenda of the super rich) and the bullshit. Hemp must be utilized in the future. We need a clean energy source to save our planet. INDUSTRIALIZE HEMP!

    The liquor, tobacco and oil companies fund more than a million dollars a day to Partnership for a Drug-Free America and other similar agencies. We have all seen their commercials. Now, their motto is: 'It's more dangerous than we thought.' Lies from the powerful corporations, that began with Hearst, are still alive and well today.

    The brainwashing continues. Now, the commercials say: If you buy a joint, you contribute to murders and gang wars. The latest anti-hemp commercials say: If you buy a joint...you are promoting TERRORISM! The new enemy (terrorism) has paved the road to brainwash you any way THEY see fit.

    There is only one enemy; the friendly people you pay your taxes to; the war-makers and nature destroyers. With your funding, they are killing the world right in front of your eyes. HALF A MILLION DEATHS EACH YEAR ARE CAUSED BY TOBACCO. HALF A MILLION DEATHS EACH YEAR ARE CAUSED BY ALCOHOL.

    Ingesting THC, hemp's active agent, has a positive effect; relieving asthma and glaucoma. A joint tends to alleviate the nausea caused by chemotherapy. You are able to eat on hemp. This is a healthy state of being.

    The hemp plant is an ALIEN plant. There is physical evidence that hemp is not like any other plant on this planet. One could conclude that it was brought here for the benefit of humanity. Hemp is the ONLY plant where the males appear one way and the females appear very different, physically! No one ever speaks of males and females in regard to the plant kingdom because plants do not show their sexes; except for hemp. To determine what sex a certain, normal, Earthly plant is: You have to look internally, at its DNA. A male blade of grass (physically) looks exactly like a female blade of grass. The hemp plant has an intense sexuality.


    HEMP IS ILLEGAL BECAUSE BILLIONAIRES WANT TO REMAIN BILLIONAIRES!

    very informative... hemp is very much loved in American neighborhoods <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
  • JudeJude Posts: 452
    It does not matter seems to me likely <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->


    Ima just havin' some fun with you paula, likely is an understatement, I would give my dog away, and I love my dog like my own child, that it's acurate.
  • RKRK Posts: 3,019
    actually pawpaw trees or papaya trees show their sexes. I have many in my back yard. You need at least one male amongst the female trees to allow the bees to pollinate. But nowadays, the plant nurseries in Aus are pushing bi-sexual trees.
  • actually pawpaw trees or papaya trees show their sexes. I have many in my back yard. You need at least one male amongst the female trees to allow the bees to pollinate. But nowadays, the plant nurseries in Aus are pushing bi-sexual trees.

    YIKES!!
  • Perhaps the overall point of this, that we can all agree on whether we "like" marijuana or not, is that we have once gain been LIED TO about it and basically PROGRAMMED to have certain beliefs about it, when in fact most of them are not true or twisted beyond recognition. This is where THINKING FOR YOURSELF comes in. I used to "hate" marijuana use of any kind because my mom told me it was bad. When I was old enough to think for myself, I asked my mother why it was bad...and she said because it's illegal...which translates to: the government/media say it's bad. So I had blindly been following my mother who had been blindly following what THEY put in her head. She has never used marijuana for anything, never even tried smoking it, so how on earth does one form an opinion about something they know nothing about? It's easy. Watch TV! Doesn't it seem ass-backwards that they are so against marijuana use, which can heal sicknesses and save lives, but are always promoting things like flu shots, for instance, that are making people get sick and test positive for HIV. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that THEY DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT US!
  • JudeJude Posts: 452
    Perhaps the overall point of this, that we can all agree on whether we "like" marijuana or not, is that we have once gain been LIED TO about it and basically PROGRAMMED to have certain beliefs about it, when in fact most of them are not true or twisted beyond recognition. This is where THINKING FOR YOURSELF comes in. I used to "hate" marijuana use of any kind because my mom told me it was bad. When I was old enough to think for myself, I asked my mother why it was bad...and she said because it's illegal...which translates to: the government/media say it's bad. So I had blindly been following my mother who had been blindly following what THEY put in her head. She has never used marijuana for anything, never even tried smoking it, so how on earth does one form an opinion about something they know nothing about? It's easy. Watch TV! Doesn't it seem ass-backwards that they are so against marijuana use, which can heal sicknesses and save lives, but are always promoting things like flu shots, for instance, that are making people get sick and test positive for HIV. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that THEY DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT US!


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    Mike might very well have been smokin' pot which is his own business I guess but if true it would kind of make him a hypocrite considering that he spoke out against drug use <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> . Not that it matters or anything because I do understand how he valued his image which is also why I'd think he'd want it kept a secret if he did use it.
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    Mike might very well have been smokin' pot which is his own business I guess but if true it would kind of make him a hypocrite considering that he spoke out against drug use <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> . Not that it matters or anything because I do understand how he valued his image which is also why I'd think he'd want it kept a secret if he did use it.

    Most marijuana users do not consider the plant a 'drug'.
  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    Probably I use it with therapeutic purposes
  • SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400
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    Mike might very well have been smokin' pot which is his own business I guess but if true it would kind of make him a hypocrite considering that he spoke out against drug use <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> . Not that it matters or anything because I do understand how he valued his image which is also why I'd think he'd want it kept a secret if he did use it.

    Most marijuana users do not consider the plant a 'drug'.

    Because it isn't, it's a herb, it's non-toxic, safe and not addictive.


    [center:11p8wsdp]IS CANNABIS A DRUG? - A DISCUSSION[/center:11p8wsdp]

    WHETHER OR NOT CANNABIS IS A DRUG IT OUGHT BE LEGALISED.

    When we talk about cannabis we are not talking about what is not cannabis

    Under the Misuse of Drugs Act 1971, the cannabis plant and its derivatives which contain THC are classified as a Class B Drug and prohibited. Some parts of the plant, such as seeds, roots and stalks, do not fall within the Act. On the question of leaves, forensic scientists look for the presence of THC and other active cannabinoids, and if found, the substance falls within the Act. Some argue that cannabis is a drug in any case, as it can be used as a constituent in a medicine. Others argue that parts of the cannabis plant cannot correctly, semantically be called a drug at all, especially as it is neither physically addictive nor toxic in any conceivably consumable amount. The correct meaning of the word 'drug' as applied to cannabis continues to be debated; nevertheless, in British law, cannabis is a drug.

    Safety
    Cannabis has been described as one of the safest therapeutic substances known to man, and safer than most common vegetables - DEA Judge Young, 1988. Others describe cannabis as "remakably safe, but not completely harmless" - Prof. Lester Grinspoon MD1997). Some even claim that cannabis is completely harmless and beneficial to man. Yet other scientists have inferred health risks involved the smoking of cannabis, mostly based upon the results of experimentation with THC extracts and synthetic THC carried out on mice, rats and monkeys. It is generally accepted that cannabis is safer than alcohol and tobacco. The question of the risk element attached to the use of cannabis will continue to be a matter for the experts, but irrespective of the answer there exists no just reason to punish cannabis users or those who grow it.

    Campaigners, scientists and doctors cannot agree. Cannabis has been used for centuries, both medicinally and for the high, as well as for rope etc, long before the days of drugs and synthetics. Much of the discussion is based on dictionary definitions which change with time. Tell a Rastafarian that his sacrament is a drug and you will be in trouble! Look at a bale of hemp fibre, hemp seed oil soap, paper, cloth or seedcake - they are all pure cannabis - and then tell me it is a drug.


    CANNABIS IS NOT A DRUG.

    Drugs are associated with addiction, habit and problems. Cannabis is associated with none of these. "Cannabis is not dope, it's everything from rope to hope!"

    The following article is an extract from The Report of the FCDA Europe

    Although on average approximately 75 people per annum in the U.S. are revealed by post mortem (autopsy) examination to have cannabis in their system at the time of their death, their deaths were induced by causes not associated with cannabis. In all the long history of its use of which the record dates back approximately 5,000 years, cannabis has never been cause to a single fatality. Medical records and study of worldwide pertinent writings over the millennia show that at no time has any person died from the ingestion of any amount of cannabis, ever.

    Cannabis is a NON-TOXIC substance. One hundred per cent of the scores of studies by American universities and research facilities show that toxicity does not exist in cannabis. (U.C.L.A, Harvard, Temple, etc.)

    All the in-depth medico-scientific clinical studies conducted (for example, US-Jamaican, US-Costa Rican, LaGuardia, etc) have revealed that cannabis contains no addictive properties in any part of the plant or its smoke, so, unlike and in contrast to tobacco, alcohol, and all the legal or illegal 'recreational' substances cannabis is both non-habit-forming and non-toxic. Therefore cannabis is uniquely safe. In this Report, let it be unequivocal and clearly understood that the use of "safe" in the context of cannabis use, by definition means,: "free of danger, risk or injury".

    Cannabis Is Not A Drug: Accurate Language.

    From all the medico-scientific aspects, harmless cannabis is not only wrongly defined as a "drug" in any meaningful (semantic) definition of the word but also, by definition and empirical reality, wrongly proscribed as a "drug" (or other substance) under legislation regulations.

    Although dictionaries vary slightly in their definitions of "drug", virtually all refer to, and rely for definition on, a drug's habit-forming, addictive properties. Webster's New World Dictionary, for example, defines "drug" as: "a narcotic, hallucinogen, especially one that is habit-forming." As is confirmed by the aforementioned medico-scientific research, cannabis contains no habit-forming properties in the plant itself or its smoke. Eviden from the most fundamental and widely inferred meaning, by definition based on empirical fact, cannabis is not a drug.

    The word 'drug' derives from Old Dutch meaning dried herbs, as used in food, for healing and in the dyeing of textiles. There was no connotation of addiction. (viz: the Wealth of Nations, 1776, Adam Smith; Book One, Chapter One). In the twentieth Century, that meaning has been transformed by the specious pseudo-philosophy of Prohibition.
    The invalidity of linking cannabis with "drugs" is further confirmed by the U.S. government's Bureau of Mortality Statistics. The table, below, demonstrates in the most obvious manner that cannabis by any meaningful definition, traditional or modern, is not a drug and cannabis cannot (correctly) be categorised or referred to as a drug.


    [center:11p8wsdp]COMPARISON OF CANNABIS TO OTHER SUBSTANCES
    BY OFFICIAL MORTALITY STATISTICS
    Sample year 1988. U.S. federal government Bureau of Mortality Statistics.[/center:11p8wsdp]

    [center:11p8wsdp]SUBSTANCE............................................NUMBER OF DEATHS PER ANNUM.
    TOBACCO................................................................................ 340,000 to 425,000
    ALCOHOL (not including 50% of all highway deaths
    And 65% of all murders).......................................................150,000 +
    ASPIRIN (Including deliberate overdoses) ................................................180 to 1,000 +
    CAFFEINE (From stress, ulcers, triggering irregular heartbeats etc) ..................1,000 to 10,000
    LEGAL DRUG OVERDOSE (Deliberate or accidental from legal, prescribed
    Patent medicines and / or mixing with alcohol) ......14,000 to 27,000
    ILLICIT DRUG OVERDOSE (Deliberate or accidental from all illegal drugs).........3,8000 to 5,200
    THEOPHYLLINE (Prescribed asthma drug) ..........................................................50

    CANNABIS

    ...................................................................
    0[/center:11p8wsdp]

    To those people in whose (financial) interests it is to perpetuate the Prohibition of Cannabis the semantically incorrect use of the word "drug" where cannabis is concerned, is a premeditated misuse of terminology. This serves strategy advantageous to Prohibitionists, and comprises a simple but effective mechanism of disinformation, by putting the harmless herb into an unjustifiable association with addictive and harmful drugs.

    The reality is clear: cannabis and those pernicious substances, the drugs, are wholly unalike. As the word "drug" is wrong and inapplicable to cannabis, it is necessary to establish a correct word, veracious vocabulary, which is fitting.

    From The Report of the FCDA
    Because cannabis has been loosely, widely and incorrectly referred to in the past as a "drug" does not mean that this basic untruth can become acceptable. On the contrary, since the introduction of Prohibition the legal situation compels veracity and clarity more than ever, for not to articulate the truth accurately involves perjury. Yet truthful language, the truth, exposes the mendacious basis to the Crime that is this Prohibition of Cannabis

    The Australian Government Report says "Cannabis has been erroneously classified as a narcotic, as a sedative and as an hallucinogen. Cannabinoids represent a UNIQUE PHARMACOLOGICAL CLASS OF COMPOUNDS"

    CANNABIS IS NOT A DRUG, AND NEITHER IS IT AN INTOXICANT.

    According to the Oxford Pocket Dictionary to intoxicate is to make drunk, excite, elate, beyond self-control. Unlike alcohol cannabis users do not lose self-control. Massive amounts just send them to sleep.

    Intoxicants are potentially toxic, that is poisonous, with a certain overdose level often dependent on the individual. There has never been a single death directly attributed to cannabis use, in 5000 years of history, with hundreds of millions of users in the world. There is NO TOXIC AMOUNT OF CANNABIS. One theory states that an amount of 2 pounds eaten in ten minutes, an impossible feat and not certain to cause death. No animal has died of an overdose of cannabis.

    Many substances which are mind-altering or mood changing are not drugs : hormones, endorphins, adrenaline.

    Conscious-altering substance which we consume but which are not generally regarded as drugs include sugar, caffeine and chocolate.

    CANNABIS IS NOT THC

    THC or Tetrahydrocannabinol is one of many active ingredients in cannabis. It can also be produced synthetically. Organic cannabis contains over 1000 other substances; like any herb it is the holistic use of the whole herb or medicine which is vital. 30 or 40 cannabinoids have been identified. Any judgment of cannabis based on the supply of THC to patients is unfounded.

    Cannabis contains THC but cannabis is not THC. It is incorrect methodologically to mix in extraneous, irrelevant THC findings, or data from isolated cannabinoids, and then make false claims relating to cannabis.

    WHETHER OR NOT CANNABIS IS A DRUG IT OUGHT BE LEGALISED.

    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

  • :shock: <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> @ this thread, not the original post but the rest... <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->

    Mike might very well have been smokin' pot which is his own business I guess but if true it would kind of make him a hypocrite considering that he spoke out against drug use <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> . Not that it matters or anything because I do understand how he valued his image which is also why I'd think he'd want it kept a secret if he did use it.

    Most marijuana users do not consider the plant a 'drug'.

    Because it isn't, it's a herb, it's non-toxic, safe and not addictive.


    [center:1f4whfhd]IS CANNABIS A DRUG? - A DISCUSSION[/center:1f4whfhd]

    WHETHER OR NOT CANNABIS IS A DRUG IT OUGHT BE LEGALISED.

    When we talk about cannabis we are not talking about what is not cannabis

    Under the Misuse of Drugs Act 1971, the cannabis plant and its derivatives which contain THC are classified as a Class B Drug and prohibited. Some parts of the plant, such as seeds, roots and stalks, do not fall within the Act. On the question of leaves, forensic scientists look for the presence of THC and other active cannabinoids, and if found, the substance falls within the Act. Some argue that cannabis is a drug in any case, as it can be used as a constituent in a medicine. Others argue that parts of the cannabis plant cannot correctly, semantically be called a drug at all, especially as it is neither physically addictive nor toxic in any conceivably consumable amount. The correct meaning of the word 'drug' as applied to cannabis continues to be debated; nevertheless, in British law, cannabis is a drug.

    Safety
    Cannabis has been described as one of the safest therapeutic substances known to man, and safer than most common vegetables - DEA Judge Young, 1988. Others describe cannabis as "remakably safe, but not completely harmless" - Prof. Lester Grinspoon MD1997). Some even claim that cannabis is completely harmless and beneficial to man. Yet other scientists have inferred health risks involved the smoking of cannabis, mostly based upon the results of experimentation with THC extracts and synthetic THC carried out on mice, rats and monkeys. It is generally accepted that cannabis is safer than alcohol and tobacco. The question of the risk element attached to the use of cannabis will continue to be a matter for the experts, but irrespective of the answer there exists no just reason to punish cannabis users or those who grow it.

    Campaigners, scientists and doctors cannot agree. Cannabis has been used for centuries, both medicinally and for the high, as well as for rope etc, long before the days of drugs and synthetics. Much of the discussion is based on dictionary definitions which change with time. Tell a Rastafarian that his sacrament is a drug and you will be in trouble! Look at a bale of hemp fibre, hemp seed oil soap, paper, cloth or seedcake - they are all pure cannabis - and then tell me it is a drug.


    CANNABIS IS NOT A DRUG.

    Drugs are associated with addiction, habit and problems. Cannabis is associated with none of these. "Cannabis is not dope, it's everything from rope to hope!"

    The following article is an extract from The Report of the FCDA Europe

    Although on average approximately 75 people per annum in the U.S. are revealed by post mortem (autopsy) examination to have cannabis in their system at the time of their death, their deaths were induced by causes not associated with cannabis. In all the long history of its use of which the record dates back approximately 5,000 years, cannabis has never been cause to a single fatality. Medical records and study of worldwide pertinent writings over the millennia show that at no time has any person died from the ingestion of any amount of cannabis, ever.

    Cannabis is a NON-TOXIC substance. One hundred per cent of the scores of studies by American universities and research facilities show that toxicity does not exist in cannabis. (U.C.L.A, Harvard, Temple, etc.)

    All the in-depth medico-scientific clinical studies conducted (for example, US-Jamaican, US-Costa Rican, LaGuardia, etc) have revealed that cannabis contains no addictive properties in any part of the plant or its smoke, so, unlike and in contrast to tobacco, alcohol, and all the legal or illegal 'recreational' substances cannabis is both non-habit-forming and non-toxic. Therefore cannabis is uniquely safe. In this Report, let it be unequivocal and clearly understood that the use of "safe" in the context of cannabis use, by definition means,: "free of danger, risk or injury".

    Cannabis Is Not A Drug: Accurate Language.

    From all the medico-scientific aspects, harmless cannabis is not only wrongly defined as a "drug" in any meaningful (semantic) definition of the word but also, by definition and empirical reality, wrongly proscribed as a "drug" (or other substance) under legislation regulations.

    Although dictionaries vary slightly in their definitions of "drug", virtually all refer to, and rely for definition on, a drug's habit-forming, addictive properties. Webster's New World Dictionary, for example, defines "drug" as: "a narcotic, hallucinogen, especially one that is habit-forming." As is confirmed by the aforementioned medico-scientific research, cannabis contains no habit-forming properties in the plant itself or its smoke. Eviden from the most fundamental and widely inferred meaning, by definition based on empirical fact, cannabis is not a drug.

    The word 'drug' derives from Old Dutch meaning dried herbs, as used in food, for healing and in the dyeing of textiles. There was no connotation of addiction. (viz: the Wealth of Nations, 1776, Adam Smith; Book One, Chapter One). In the twentieth Century, that meaning has been transformed by the specious pseudo-philosophy of Prohibition.
    The invalidity of linking cannabis with "drugs" is further confirmed by the U.S. government's Bureau of Mortality Statistics. The table, below, demonstrates in the most obvious manner that cannabis by any meaningful definition, traditional or modern, is not a drug and cannabis cannot (correctly) be categorised or referred to as a drug.


    [center:1f4whfhd]COMPARISON OF CANNABIS TO OTHER SUBSTANCES
    BY OFFICIAL MORTALITY STATISTICS
    Sample year 1988. U.S. federal government Bureau of Mortality Statistics.[/center:1f4whfhd]

    [center:1f4whfhd]SUBSTANCE............................................NUMBER OF DEATHS PER ANNUM.
    TOBACCO................................................................................ 340,000 to 425,000
    ALCOHOL (not including 50% of all highway deaths
    And 65% of all murders).......................................................150,000 +
    ASPIRIN (Including deliberate overdoses) ................................................180 to 1,000 +
    CAFFEINE (From stress, ulcers, triggering irregular heartbeats etc) ..................1,000 to 10,000
    LEGAL DRUG OVERDOSE (Deliberate or accidental from legal, prescribed
    Patent medicines and / or mixing with alcohol) ......14,000 to 27,000
    ILLICIT DRUG OVERDOSE (Deliberate or accidental from all illegal drugs).........3,8000 to 5,200
    THEOPHYLLINE (Prescribed asthma drug) ..........................................................50

    CANNABIS

    ...................................................................
    0[/center:1f4whfhd]

    To those people in whose (financial) interests it is to perpetuate the Prohibition of Cannabis the semantically incorrect use of the word "drug" where cannabis is concerned, is a premeditated misuse of terminology. This serves strategy advantageous to Prohibitionists, and comprises a simple but effective mechanism of disinformation, by putting the harmless herb into an unjustifiable association with addictive and harmful drugs.

    The reality is clear: cannabis and those pernicious substances, the drugs, are wholly unalike. As the word "drug" is wrong and inapplicable to cannabis, it is necessary to establish a correct word, veracious vocabulary, which is fitting.

    From The Report of the FCDA
    Because cannabis has been loosely, widely and incorrectly referred to in the past as a "drug" does not mean that this basic untruth can become acceptable. On the contrary, since the introduction of Prohibition the legal situation compels veracity and clarity more than ever, for not to articulate the truth accurately involves perjury. Yet truthful language, the truth, exposes the mendacious basis to the Crime that is this Prohibition of Cannabis

    The Australian Government Report says "Cannabis has been erroneously classified as a narcotic, as a sedative and as an hallucinogen. Cannabinoids represent a UNIQUE PHARMACOLOGICAL CLASS OF COMPOUNDS"

    CANNABIS IS NOT A DRUG, AND NEITHER IS IT AN INTOXICANT.

    According to the Oxford Pocket Dictionary to intoxicate is to make drunk, excite, elate, beyond self-control. Unlike alcohol cannabis users do not lose self-control. Massive amounts just send them to sleep.

    Intoxicants are potentially toxic, that is poisonous, with a certain overdose level often dependent on the individual. There has never been a single death directly attributed to cannabis use, in 5000 years of history, with hundreds of millions of users in the world. There is NO TOXIC AMOUNT OF CANNABIS. One theory states that an amount of 2 pounds eaten in ten minutes, an impossible feat and not certain to cause death. No animal has died of an overdose of cannabis.

    Many substances which are mind-altering or mood changing are not drugs : hormones, endorphins, adrenaline.

    Conscious-altering substance which we consume but which are not generally regarded as drugs include sugar, caffeine and chocolate.

    CANNABIS IS NOT THC

    THC or Tetrahydrocannabinol is one of many active ingredients in cannabis. It can also be produced synthetically. Organic cannabis contains over 1000 other substances; like any herb it is the holistic use of the whole herb or medicine which is vital. 30 or 40 cannabinoids have been identified. Any judgment of cannabis based on the supply of THC to patients is unfounded.

    Cannabis contains THC but cannabis is not THC. It is incorrect methodologically to mix in extraneous, irrelevant THC findings, or data from isolated cannabinoids, and then make false claims relating to cannabis.

    WHETHER OR NOT CANNABIS IS A DRUG IT OUGHT BE LEGALISED.

    Safer than most vegetables! How about that <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> Thanks Souza!
  • This is all very fascinating!!! :O I'm still a little confused though. Isn't smoking weed different for everyone? I've heard of people flipping out, wanting to fight, becoming dull, etc. Side effects, that is. Isn't it true that you get a few side effects from smoking it or is that a misconception? Also can't you get a contact high from it (standing around someone who smokes it and inhaling the fumes)? <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: --> <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: --> <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
  • This is all very fascinating!!! :O I'm still a little confused though. Isn't smoking weed different for everyone? I've heard of people flipping out, wanting to fight, becoming dull, etc. Side effects, that is. Isn't it true that you get a few side effects from smoking it or is that a misconception? Also can't you get a contact high from it (standing around someone who smokes it and inhaling the fumes)? <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: --> <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: --> <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->

    It's effects are different for everyone, but only because everyone is different.

    From what I've experienced and seen, all marijuana does is make things clear as day. Sometimes this can be negative, but only because it is negative things that are brought to light. Hard to explain, and this is maybe just my opinion, but it seems to have this sort of detoxing effect on emotions and thoughts. Kind of like when you do a detox diet for your body, you may feel much worse before you start feeling better because your body has so many toxins to get rid of. That's what marijuana is like - a detox diet for your mind, it promotes clear and free thinking. But in order to get to that level, one must rid their minds of previous thought patterns and misinformation and negative energy in general - and that period can produce some uncomfortable feelings and even physical symptoms. It's very difficult emotionally when you start to find out that you've been lied to your whole life. Of course, this process of awakening can be acheived without marijuana. I'm just saying that I have certainly found it to be helpful...
  • SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400
    @jaci Hey, what did you expect? I'm Dutch! We are known for our tulips, cheese, windmills, wooden shoes and most of all: coffee shops and controversial drug policy <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->

    Just to clarify: I am against (syntetic and dangerous) recreational drug use. I think it's irresponsible and stupid. I also don't think you should be high on pot every minute of the day, but a joint every now and then has never harmed a soul, helps you relax and sleep when you had a bad day and it relieves pain.

    It harms the government though, because people seem to get a clearer mind from it and start to question and think. Look at the hippies and their big demonstrations back in the days.

    @SIC: That's a misconception. It depends though on where you buy it. If they mixed it with other stuff, it can of course have different side effects. Pure canabis does not have that side effects. I used to smoke a joint sometimes and still every once in a blue moon, and all it ever did to me, is making me laugh so hard it makes my sides hurt, becoming very philosophical, my senses increase: it's like everything makes more sense and after an hour or 2 I get sleepy and need to go to bed. I have never seen anyone become violent from it, other than what I have seen happening with people using cocaine or XTC.

    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

  • JudeJude Posts: 452
    This is all very fascinating!!! :O I'm still a little confused though. Isn't smoking weed different for everyone? I've heard of people flipping out, wanting to fight, becoming dull, etc. Side effects, that is. Isn't it true that you get a few side effects from smoking it or is that a misconception? Also can't you get a contact high from it (standing around someone who smokes it and inhaling the fumes)? <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: --> <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: --> <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->



    I've never seen anyone flip out, and I've been around it for more then half my life, and want to fight? Never! I want to clean my house when I smoke. <!-- s:mrgreen: -->:mrgreen:<!-- s:mrgreen: -->
  • According to Kathy O'Brien, a former mind-controlled sex slave for the gov, they would let slaves take all the drugs they wanted, except marijuana. Why? Because marijuana usage made it impossible to mind control them. It doesn't allow for the compartmentalization of the mind to take place.

    People in this thread are asking maybe Michael wanted to tell us something about Marijuana well there you go Mo hit the nail right on the head, whether he smoked it or not is anybody's guess but seems like Marijuana was the mk ultras worst nightmare <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
  • This is all very fascinating!!! :O I'm still a little confused though. Isn't smoking weed different for everyone? I've heard of people flipping out, wanting to fight, becoming dull, etc. Side effects, that is. Isn't it true that you get a few side effects from smoking it or is that a misconception? Also can't you get a contact high from it (standing around someone who smokes it and inhaling the fumes)? <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: --> <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: --> <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->

    It's effects are different for everyone, but only because everyone is different.

    From what I've experienced and seen, all marijuana does is make things clear as day. Sometimes this can be negative, but only because it is negative things that are brought to light. Hard to explain, and this is maybe just my opinion, but it seems to have this sort of detoxing effect on emotions and thoughts. Kind of like when you do a detox diet for your body, you may feel much worse before you start feeling better because your body has so many toxins to get rid of. That's what marijuana is like - a detox diet for your mind, it promotes clear and free thinking. But in order to get to that level, one must rid their minds of previous thought patterns and misinformation and negative energy in general - and that period can produce some uncomfortable feelings and even physical symptoms. It's very difficult emotionally when you start to find out that you've been lied to your whole life. Of course, this process of awakening can be acheived without marijuana. I'm just saying that I have certainly found it to be helpful...

    Yeah, that's right. I recall you saying that in this thread or in an IM, about bringing things to light like negative things, when you smoke weed. i assume that's one reason many artists and musicians smoke(d) it. Writers too. xD To clear their mind and what not.
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