TIai update #6.5: Michael & Elvis, DOUBle-scam from TS??

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  • Amen!!! TIME DOUBTS? But I'll keep the faith!


    So excited! Thanks for my birthday gift, TS <3
  • I dont care who TS is because i love him/her/he/she endlessly for keeping the faith and hanging here with us to keep the L.O.V.E ALIVE. Thank you so much TS. Biggest hugs ever to you.
  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    Some have thought that my “return” and “bam” predictions were for the purpose of testing people.


    TS or Michael ..
    I personally never said that the parallelism of Elvis and MJ is a scam.

    1. Outline

    1. Outline
    2. Truth Will Prevail
    3. Most Recent Predictions
    4. Unclaimed Numerology Reward
    5. Outthinking the Illuminati
    6. Katherine and Randy
    7. Bahrain And Michael
    8. God Can Protect
    9. “His Own Words”
    10. Eliza’s Court Case
    11. Eleven Thirty

    Regarding the scheme, I have no objection whatsoever to the case exepcion Eliza, I do not doubt that the DNA submitted by Eliza is true, and my objection is to the legal sphere, the chain of custody is not fulfilled, the laws are a set of written rules and rights that should give rise to liability, the scientific evidence may cause the judge in the case of Eliza makes a personal interpretation, according to their beliefs or values, in a subjective way, the objective would be to check this for the majority and not a minority, it might not be more fair value that each person has different values, something is not just being a law, should be a law that is fair.
    When I speak of double BAM said it would be the success that would have Eliza in court, but it's my view now I think is going to be tricky, however we must wait and see what happens, I am not lawyer not pretend to be.
    Other than that, I am not obligated to do any redirects or posts; it is my own choice, and no amount of complaints or anything else is going to force me to post again.


    paula-c wrote:

    TS wrote :In fact, all you need to do is ask people to go to <!-- m -->[url=http://www.ElvisAndMJ.com;]http://www.ElvisAndMJ.com;[/url]<!-- m --> whether they are Elvis fans, or MJ fans, or anyone really—maybe we can even get the attention of the media! This is an easy domain name to remember, and it’s already pointed to this thread (and it will stay here, even if TIAI redirects elsewhere). Also, I will be watching this thread pretty closely; and if anyone posts ridicule or other non-evidence based objections, I will be here to call them on it (unless someone else does before I do).



    Sorry, but when things are not clear what is best to give an explanation, I personally would like to know TS insisted that both the case of Eliza, the explanation allows us to eliminate the problematic nature of things, we've all been in situations life in which we had to explain, especially when something is not clear enough or not understood, .. and if it is to think for myself, I'm doing, and that's why I wanted an explanation of TS.

    In this respect, indeed, my apologies for having asked for an explanation.
  • Thank you TS.
    What a wonderful way to start the day. Always love coming to check for your daily updates. (I’m saddens me that they will no longer be here for my morning coffee) But you have your reasons.
    Big HUGSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
    To you and Michael
    Love You More <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
  • ni-co-leni-co-le Posts: 535
    Finally i decided to read the posts of TS <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> english isnt my native language and i thought its so difficult to understand all of it ....today i decided to take a seat and i read it all what is been posted today <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> and i am glad i did <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> its very interesting ...i have to re read it to understand it completely ..
    i do BELIEVE in the HOAX since day 1 and nomatter what i will keep on doing that till Michael is back... <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
    Thanks TS..
  • MJFAN7MJFAN7 Posts: 3,063
    Many say that posts by TS are too long; and some people don’t even read them, because they are so long. Also, I was asked to keep this post short—and yet the same person complained that I left important information out of a previous post (update #6). It is possible to include more information, and it is also possible to keep the posts short; but it is not possible to do both. So what should I do: keep my posts short, and leave out important details? Or have long posts?

    TS , please don't think that I think your posts are too long! I never meant that, they are long, but I'm fine with that. Some people may not be, but please include as many details as you possibly can, do not leave anything out! If some people think that your posts are too long, then they should perhaps take breaks while reading them. I'm fine with the length of them, I hope you know this. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->

    But thank you SO SO much TS for this post!!!! God Bless you!! love0031.giflove0031.giflove0031.giflove0031.gif
  • MJonmindMJonmind Posts: 7,290
    Thank you TS for this as usual great update! So many concerns with many answers, but so many more questions that open up for our enjoyment/investigation/discussion all while you stay and watch. You are a true friend to us! Already such interesting things people have noticed, a few that I had noted too. Sarahli, don't know how serious you were, but thoughts of Elvis have crossed my mind, but Michael is a better fit somehow. <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) --> My sixth sense. <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
    TS
    ...they all recognize that God is bigger and more powerful than all the people and all the money in the world combined! Therefore, if God wants the general public to know the truth about Elvis, and/or MJ: then nobody and nothing is going to stop it.

    Furthermore, all who believe in God should also realize that He is fully capable of protecting both Elvis and MJ. And if MJ did not have a strong faith in God’s protection, he would’ve never planned any BAM at all. “There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear ... He that feareth is not made perfect in love.” (1 John 4:18). Remember: It’s All For LOVE!
    Jacilovesmichael
    Be still, and know that I am God Psalm 46:10

    And for those who don't believe in God, you can replace "God" with "Love" because God IS Love, and I bet those who don't believe in God, DO believe in Love. So let's be still and know that it's all for Love and and know that Love makes all things possible.
    I fully believe this is a God-thing happening. This is what makes me feel at peace as things progress. Either --it's all a part of the plan--kinda a thing, or if God's not involved everything will unravel and disintigrate because it's Satan/illuminati that want him out/destroyed. One of the things I love about Michael is that he is so completely fearless, and yet is pure love. About no future redirects <!-- s:( -->:(<!-- s:( --> , TS said that he still can if he wants to. So I'm looking forward to whatever happens, TS!
  • MissGMissG Posts: 7,403
    A well schematic presentation.

    I must admit that after reading about the amount offered for opposing the numerology used in this hoax, I wondered if the person behind the answers of the post is a mathematician, a very experienced one, or if behind is a good team of mathematicians.
    Also, it came in to my mind that may be people like me, who can´t put 2+2 together, are being totally fooled <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->

    However, numerology seems to be working right in this case.

    Thanks for the answers that needed attention, TS.
  • MissGMissG Posts: 7,403

    By the way:
    If I signed up with various usernames—and posted information using various writing styles, so that people would not recognize me—the information should be assessed on the exact same basis as my posts under the username TS.

    I think a few of us have felt your prescence sometimes, even in disguise. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> THANK YOU and do I beLIEve ? YepYep <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->

    If I signed up with various usernames

    I understood that as a hypothesis <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
  • MJonmindMJonmind Posts: 7,290
    In a way an external visible disguise is similar to writing style disguises, and why can't Michael be master at both. Michael is well-read, but also I'm thinking that with MJ, all his life experiences of technical aspects of recording, legal aspects of his companies, many depositions and court times, etc., studying Elvis' numerology and much more, have amply prepared him math-wise. He has said that he studied the masters, and surrounds himself with masters in their fields. Earlier I had said TS was a mathematician with Michael standing at his shoulder, but maybe it's the other way around. <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> He needs the mathematician to verify that he won't have to pay out any big bucks.
  • MissGMissG Posts: 7,403
    For 999 millions? <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> On my way to Helsinki <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->

    3%, even if is little, it´s part of the equation and it can fit as well.

    Reflecting about some points of the posts I wonder what will be more "shocking";
    MJ´s come back or Elvis/ Jesse´s come back?
  • frogh777frogh777 Posts: 711
    wow...this post is gooddd
  • finfinfinfin Posts: 648

    By the way:
    If I signed up with various usernames—and posted information using various writing styles, so that people would not recognize me—the information should be assessed on the exact same basis as my posts under the username TS.

    I think a few of us have felt your prescence sometimes, even in disguise. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> THANK YOU and do I beLIEve ? YepYep <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->

    If I signed up with various usernames

    I understood that as a hypothesis <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
    Yes, @Gema of course this is an "If" and therefore, an hypothesis, thank you.
  • trublutrublu Posts: 1,011
    Where are the TS opposers?
  • Where are the TS opposers?


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  • SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400
    Where are the TS opposers?


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    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

  • Where are the TS opposers?


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  • Another Great Post TS --- THANK YOU

    I felt this update had a more direct, personal, emotional style than previous ones, it may be that I am getting used to TS style but I felt something different... Just to take a few examples:
    I just happen to know something about Elvis/Jesse and his safety, that even Linda does not know. And what I have done and am doing is for his best interest and greatest safety—both in the present and future. If any are able to figure out The Source of what I’ve been presenting for more than a year now, they will know for certain that what I’m saying here is 100% true.
    Repeatedly, I’ve said that I would not do much if any more (posts or redirects); but I kept watching, and I saw a need and wanted to help.
    But redirects will not be daily anymore; those who still don’t accept TIAI/TS probably never will, no matter what I redirect to or whatever I write in a post, so there’ really s no point.
    Some may say that these statements by Jesse/Elvis were from about ten years ago, and perhaps things have changed since then. Yes, and I would also say that those who can read between the lines, think for themselves, and put themselves in Jesse’s shoes—they will probably be able to understand what has and has not changed in the last decade. Nuff said!
    So please don’t let what I say in this section (or anywhere else) be taken as disrespecting those who choose not to believe in God; I still respect you, even if I think that you have made the wrong choice.
    But again, the reason for the predictions is not for you to merely believe everything I say; rather, it is for when I reveal my identity—to help people believe what I say about myself at that time. Some would believe me now if I revealed this, but some would not.

    Also a couple of specific comments:

    1. "Did anybody notice that things suddenly picked up recently?"
    I have personally felt more energy in the forum since early November. The release of Breaking News was some sort of trigger point for a busy week of news and confusion. The last two weeks have seen more debates challenging accepted evidences and facts, be it the Eliza case or TS authenticity and I also noticed a slight increase in new members and more users on line, at least guests.
    And outside of the forum, there is definitely a lot more activity at the moment than there has been for a long time, the Oprah shows, active tweets from the like of Teddy Riley, album releases, family moving home, frequent TMZ updates, eliza court case...etc. It is like the show is picking up pace for all to see!

    2. God Can Protect
    I do have no doubts that God is playing his part in all of this... and it is a very humbling experience!

    3. Eliza & Elvis
    The facts presented in this update are consistent with the facts stated in update 6; I was then sceptical but optimistic that it could be true.
    Today? I remain hopeful that the court proceeding on the 14th December will bring some positive news. I really hope it does!

    Thank you again TS... It is all for Love!

    With L.O.V.E

    PS: TS...you know, with all the ID fraud taking place nowadays, you better keep your identity secret as we will end up with plenty of TS doubles everywhere and... and this will be really confusing... <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
  • Another Great Post TS --- THANK YOU

    I felt this update had a more direct, personal, emotional style than previous ones,
    I so agree, I got the feeling TS is a woman, lol
    because of the more emptioal style, I always felt it was a guy because of the more direct and rational and ... I dunno
    I think it could be because it wasnt planned and TS felt the need to explain himself..
    I also got the feeling that he was hurt by what has been said about him
    or maybe its because like you said we all got used to each other at this point of the journey and TS also feels the same way... dunno but I hope all is well in hoaxland,

    Im still waiting for the haters,
    did they get the answers they were looking for?
  • PureLovePureLove Posts: 5,891
    Where are the TS opposers?

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  • BeTheChangeBeTheChange Posts: 1,569
    Thanks TS for yet another insightful post. I held off from commenting on it because it was late when I first read it and just didn't get a 'good' feeling from it. I reread it several times today to see if perhaps I was just tired last night. Out of all of TS' posts so far, this is the only one that left me feeling...sad.

    A few others have touched on this as well, so I know I'm not the only one who sensed a difference in this post. At first I thought I was feeling sadness over the fact that TS stated the redirects would stop. And, yes, that is disappointing since we all look forward to them. But the feeling I got was so much more than the sadness of knowing I wouldn't be able to wake up to a new redirect each day. I think we hurt TS...and when I say 'we', I certainly don't mean any one person. My sadness in reading the post was due to the sadness that permeated everything TS wrote.

    Maybe I'm way off or maybe I misread it somehow...but each time I read it, I get this sense that TS was writing from a place of sadness, or disappointment, or frustration....or deflation. Perhaps the repeated baseless accusations did affect him over time...how could they not? Given that he stated he doesn't respond with knee-jerk reactions, the message he wanted to get across in this post has most likely been brewing for awhile. In it, he once again commented on people saying his posts are too long...perhaps a sign that those comments hurt him...given the fact that he has been the one most helpful individual in this entire hoax. He once again went back to debunking the murder theory...something he's done already with concrete proof, but yet people not only still believe the murder theory, they are now including TS as a prime suspect. It came across as him feeling backed into a corner with lots of fingers pointed at him....fingers connected to bodies that have somehow forgotten everything in his other 23 posts.

    I don't know...just trying to put myself in his shoes and thinking that if I had spent a considerable amount of time and energy in helping a group of people, and all I got back was repeated criticism and accusations of betrayal...I would be left feeling pretty disappointed.

    I know the majority of us support TS and his message and those that criticize are in the minority...but did we do enough to back him? Does he feel let down by us in some way? As I read the post and felt his sadness, I couldn't help but recall Michael at his trial and thinking how 'we' let him down then too. And much like TS, Michael then decided to leave...at least for awhile.

    I do hope I'm way off and it's just close to my time of the month or something lol. But if I am right, even a bit, then I truly am sorry TS for anything I may or may not have done that contributed to your sadness.

    With L.O.V.E. always.
  • Sincerity, accuracy, honest and above all consistency as always...

    Thanks TS!



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  • naviblnavibl Posts: 117
    Unfortunately what TS says is true about the re directs. He could re direct until BAM day and it would not really make any difference in any one believing any more than they do right now. I feel that at various points in time along this journey that people came to the conclusion of what they chose to believe or not believe.

    Just as the re direct on Luke 16:31 "He said to him, 'If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.' "

    There is not much more that could be said that would convience anyone more, and in debate of the truth confusion is created. I really hate to no longer see daily evidence of TS's presents. It was like waking up every morning to a dear sweet friend smiling at you from across the room or like a loving guiding hand that ever so gently nugged in the right direction. My worst fear is that Michael will be subjected to this same type of scrutiny when he returns. That will break my heart as bad as anything else. I just pray that God will give this Army wisdom and discernment, so that we can be productive as a whole when Michael returns, and not spend valuable time in debate of who he really is. Because when he does return, our time will be so short and we will have so much to do and so many people to guide and support in understanding what has just taken place in front of their eyes and the ultimate goal of it all. The return of Christ!! Yes and you can call it just my opinion if you like!! I love you Michael and TS thank you!!....Only God knows just how much you are Loved and Missed!!
  • melodymelody Posts: 196
    When T.S said that they aren't working with TMZ than how comes in one of the TMZ stories about Heidi and Spencer it said Scared yet? and in T.S's "Silencing the Critics, And $999 REwarD??? You bET" post the capital letters also say SCARED YET?


    You are mistaking what TS wrote ("working for") with the phrase "working with"—the former speaks of "employment", the latter indicates cooperation. TS is cooperating with TMZ (as she/he said in section 4), but is not their employee (as she/he said in section 5).

    With this bit do you think its the same with MJ that there are so many similarities with the MJ and Elvis hoax.
    “One fact that most people would think is that my Daddy [Vernon] must have known, well he didn’t. We were planning on telling him when he passed away without ever knowing.” (TTAEAP 28). “My own Daddy bless his soul never knew the truth. Little Lisa was told months later and explained to her she would not see me much. ... I feel bad my Daddy wasn’t allowed to know but it just couldn’t be done.” (TTAEAP 32,33). “Also let me tell you that my Daddy did not know of this hoax if they want to call it that. If he had not died suddenly, we would have told him. ... To this day I feel terrible about this. But he had to be eliminated from the beginning. He was to be told after 3 years but as you know he passed 6 months too early.” (TTAEAP 56).

    Maybe KJ wasn't told but she might know about MJ's death hoax. So maybe KJ will be told after 3 years, I only say this because of the similarities with Elvis.

    I feel like the excerpt applies more to Joe and that he may be the one who is unaware of Michael faking his death—or at least in the name of drawing another parallel to Elvis, pretending to be unaware (it does say "Daddy", not "Mommy", afterall). And in view of how Joe keeps pushing that "Wrongful Death Lawsuit"—which he re-filed yesterday (11-30)—he seems the likelier candidate to be "out of the know". Personally, I think Katherine is very much "clued-in" (just a hunch though).
  • AndreaAndrea Posts: 3,787
    It might be fun to start some sort of "Who is TS" campaign - not to find out his (or her) identity, but to draw more attention. Like have a t-shirt that says "Who is TS", or post it around the internet. People would see it and start wondering and maybe even google it or something.

    We need more people "in the know", Michael is going to need the support of a lot of people so maybe we need to think of new ways or recruiting more and more members to the Army of L.O.V.E. And once people start reading TS's updates, it is kinda hard to argue his logic.
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