I won't be angry or disappointed, either. I want this thing to BAM hard. No sense in rushing him! it has got to be exactly right. <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
It really depends on the nature of his "comeback"...
Could you be more specific, please.
Is there a way to come back that would be more acceptable/ less dangerous/ wiser than another kind of comeback ?
Would a comeback not have one and the same effect no matter how it's
done ?
Give me some alternative ways of returning and let's compare their consequences.
Don't get me wrong son, I just want to challenge you a bit here to strengthen your point.
It could either mean coming back to the public eye again and things going "back to normal" (he may return to performing or he could start directing or writing instead). This is what a lot of hoax believers expect to happen. <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> I wouldn't hold my breath.
Or it could mean giving a public message (via satellite perhaps) about him being alive (but remaining in hiding in the process). This would be the safer bet because it most likely would not endanger his life, but coming back in general might hurt his image.
-To let us know he is alive, nothing more than just that
okey,but more clues of Michael Jackson being alive keeps comeing everyday,weeks,months.it never ends.I think it says more than he is alive.
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It really depends on the nature of his "comeback" but in anycase
-More people would be angry with him, and it would set his vindication process back a lot.
-People would doubt it was really him (sort of like the "paul is dead" theory).
-Possible assassination attempts from "devout" crazy haters or scorned crazy (previously non-believing) fans.
sure it's not gonna be easy.not everybody will welcome him.But i also strongly believe that Michael never had no choice,he had to fake his death to save his own life.and make sure his children will have him around for many years to come.
I'd say we should be satisfied, and grateful, knowing he's alive because it's ultimately not about us. He was kind enough to give info to those who he knew would be concerned about him (e.g. his fans), but he didn't have to do it.
If others don't want to believe and think we're crazy then it's their loss. I'd be more worried if he came back honestly.
Knowing he is alive..
Well, I am a believer and I'm against the idea of Michael being dead. With all the clues and other "coindicences" I don't think we can call this all a coincidence anymore. But - we can't say for sure "he is alive". Can we? I am not entirely sure.
To be honest we've collected hundreds of clues and we're no longer crossing between coincidence and truth. This is it, this is the truth. And I know he is alive but we can't say for sure - I mean, it could be just MJ's genious mind playing with us. What I'd like to see is a picture.. although.. photoshop exists.
I think he'll be back for the Cirque Du Soleil tour beginning in October 2011. I hope so. <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->
So there are 5 possible dates for his comeback this year:
May 21 (count down clock, and my birthday <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->)
May (Oprah's final show)
June 25
July (Murray's court end date)
October (Cirque Du Soleil)
Or CDS December Las Vegas.
I also think about the contrast of Elvis...
Elvis left clues in the beginning and then stopped and he still hasn't come back.
MJ left clues and is still leaving clues which means he is probably coming back.
All those are some pretty interesting dates, especially July with the court ending, I didn't know that until now <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> the "See you in July 2011" autograph was what really pulled me to believing July '11.
& that's also why I have no doubt that he will come back; the clues and the flaws in his death. Michael's a perfectionist, and if he faked his death to get out of the public's eye, then I really believe that he would've perfected this death to every last detail. We wouldn't of had a "weird list" with over 100 items, etc.
Yeah, but I'm also scared that Michael will pick a date we haven't listed so that we'll be surprised. So shh! no more talking of dates!! <!-- s --><!-- s -->
I think he'll be back for the Cirque Du Soleil tour beginning in October 2011. I hope so. <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->
So there are 5 possible dates for his comeback this year:
May 21 (count down clock, and my birthday <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->)
May (Oprah's final show)
June 25
July (Murray's court end date)
October (Cirque Du Soleil)
Or CDS December Las Vegas.
I also think about the contrast of Elvis...
Elvis left clues in the beginning and then stopped and he still hasn't come back.
MJ left clues and is still leaving clues which means he is probably coming back.
All those are some pretty interesting dates, especially July with the court ending, I didn't know that until now <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> the "See you in July 2011" autograph was what really pulled me to believing July '11.
& that's also why I have no doubt that he will come back; the clues and the flaws in his death. Michael's a perfectionist, and if he faked his death to get out of the public's eye, then I really believe that he would've perfected this death to every last detail. We wouldn't of had a "weird list" with over 100 items, etc.
Yeah, but I'm also scared that Michael will pick a date we haven't listed so that we'll be surprised. So shh! no more talking of dates!! <!-- s --><!-- s -->
True. He might just as well come back tomorrow, - or the day after tomorrow.
Too bad I said it now, it's no longer a surprise. And he won't come back 'cus he is probably browsing through these forums! And he saw my predictions! <!-- s:evil: -->:evil:<!-- s:evil: -->
I have a feeling its about the Pepsi burn. Close friends of his said he was never the same, remember? It was the first time he ever used drugs and had developed a dependancy for them. I, however, know he had overcome his addiction. He wanted the world to believe he was still a drug addict lol just because he knows people will always buy into the most negative story. Michael was burned in the 1984 Pepsi incident 25 years before his 'death' on the 6th take of shooting the commercial. 6/25!!
I think he'll be back for the Cirque Du Soleil tour beginning in October 2011. I hope so. <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->
I made this post elsewhere but I think it fits here too. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
Nobody knows when Michael is coming except Michael. We created several theories about when he might be coming back but they are just theories not facts. I do believe that Michael decided to come back in July 2011 BUT circumstances can change according to the trial. I do believe that FBI is helping him out to pull this thing, so he can not decide his comeback time on his own. There's a trial procedure going on and NOT everyone is in on the hoax. So this means that not everyone in that courtroom knows about the hoax. It may take longer than we expect. So, there is no rule or no fact about the time he's coming back. If he doesn't come back this July, you guys shouldn't lose your hope and faith for the comeback.
I never believed that he will be coming with a cirque. This is NOT a game. This is a very serious situation. So the ones who are expecting him to appear with the CDS can forget about that because that would never happen. I'm sure that, with the help of FBI Michael will be chosing the best time for him to appear.
I think he'll be back for the Cirque Du Soleil tour beginning in October 2011. I hope so. <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->
I made this post elsewhere but I think it fits here too. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
Nobody knows when Michael is coming except Michael. We created several theories about when he might be coming back but they are just theories not facts. I do believe that Michael decided to come back in July 2011 BUT circumstances can change according to the trial. I do believe that FBI is helping him out to pull this thing, so he can not decide his comeback time on his own. There's a trial procedure going on and NOT everyone is in on the hoax. So this means that not everyone in that courtroom knows about the hoax. It may take longer than we expect. So, there is no rule or no fact about the time he's coming back. If he doesn't come back this July, you guys shouldn't lose your hope and faith for the comeback.
I never believed that he will be coming with a cirque. This is NOT a game. This is a very serious situation. So the ones who are expecting him to appear with the CDS can forget about that because that would never happen. I'm sure that, with the help of FBI Michael will be chosing the best time for him to appear.
Hmm, why are you so sure he won't come back with CDS? I know it's not a game.. but you don't think Michael still wants to perform? He said the stage is his home, and even if he's going to movie-making too, I still think he will perform. I can't imagine him not dancing and singing, it's what he was born to do.
I think he'll be back for the Cirque Du Soleil tour beginning in October 2011. I hope so. <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->
I made this post elsewhere but I think it fits here too. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
Nobody knows when Michael is coming except Michael. We created several theories about when he might be coming back but they are just theories not facts. I do believe that Michael decided to come back in July 2011 BUT circumstances can change according to the trial. I do believe that FBI is helping him out to pull this thing, so he can not decide his comeback time on his own. There's a trial procedure going on and NOT everyone is in on the hoax. So this means that not everyone in that courtroom knows about the hoax. It may take longer than we expect. So, there is no rule or no fact about the time he's coming back. If he doesn't come back this July, you guys shouldn't lose your hope and faith for the comeback.
I never believed that he will be coming with a cirque. This is NOT a game. This is a very serious situation. So the ones who are expecting him to appear with the CDS can forget about that because that would never happen. I'm sure that, with the help of FBI Michael will be chosing the best time for him to appear.
Hmm, why are you so sure he won't come back with CDS? I know it's not a game.. but you don't think Michael still wants to perform? He said the stage is his home, and even if he's going to movie-making too, I still think he will perform. I can't imagine him not dancing and singing, it's what he was born to do.
We can't decide whether it's going to be a game or not. We have to spot the clues, - and I'm sure some of the new albums are going to have clues and so will the music video for Behind the Mask.
You should know by now (I mean everyone) that Michael is the sorta guy, as a genious, who'd like to fool us a bit and make things difficult. Like a game! We're on a second level here.. <!-- s --><!-- s -->
I think he'll be back for the Cirque Du Soleil tour beginning in October 2011. I hope so. <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->
So there are 5 possible dates for his comeback this year:
May 21 (count down clock, and my birthday <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->)
May (Oprah's final show)
June 25
July (Murray's court end date)
October (Cirque Du Soleil)
Or CDS December Las Vegas.
I also think about the contrast of Elvis...
Elvis left clues in the beginning and then stopped and he still hasn't come back.
MJ left clues and is still leaving clues which means he is probably coming back.
All those are some pretty interesting dates, especially July with the court ending, I didn't know that until now <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> the "See you in July 2011" autograph was what really pulled me to believing July '11.
& that's also why I have no doubt that he will come back; the clues and the flaws in his death. Michael's a perfectionist, and if he faked his death to get out of the public's eye, then I really believe that he would've perfected this death to every last detail. We wouldn't of had a "weird list" with over 100 items, etc.
Yeah, but I'm also scared that Michael will pick a date we haven't listed so that we'll be surprised. So shh! no more talking of dates!! <!-- s --><!-- s -->
True. He might just as well come back tomorrow, - or the day after tomorrow.
Too bad I said it now, it's no longer a surprise. And he won't come back 'cus he is probably browsing through these forums! And he saw my predictions! <!-- s:evil: -->:evil:<!-- s:evil: -->
Nawh, just kidding. <!-- s --><!-- s -->
<!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> Shh ! Michael you didn't see that! <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> <!-- s --><!-- s -->
But then again, I don't think Michael would change the date because we predict it, maybe he wants us to predict it that way we'll be ready for it. <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> <!-- s:P -->:P<!-- s:P -->
I think he'll be back for the Cirque Du Soleil tour beginning in October 2011. I hope so. <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->
So there are 5 possible dates for his comeback this year:
May 21 (count down clock, and my birthday <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->)
May (Oprah's final show)
June 25
July (Murray's court end date)
October (Cirque Du Soleil)
Or CDS December Las Vegas.
I also think about the contrast of Elvis...
Elvis left clues in the beginning and then stopped and he still hasn't come back.
MJ left clues and is still leaving clues which means he is probably coming back.
All those are some pretty interesting dates, especially July with the court ending, I didn't know that until now <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> the "See you in July 2011" autograph was what really pulled me to believing July '11.
& that's also why I have no doubt that he will come back; the clues and the flaws in his death. Michael's a perfectionist, and if he faked his death to get out of the public's eye, then I really believe that he would've perfected this death to every last detail. We wouldn't of had a "weird list" with over 100 items, etc.
Yeah, but I'm also scared that Michael will pick a date we haven't listed so that we'll be surprised. So shh! no more talking of dates!! <!-- s --><!-- s -->
True. He might just as well come back tomorrow, - or the day after tomorrow.
Too bad I said it now, it's no longer a surprise. And he won't come back 'cus he is probably browsing through these forums! And he saw my predictions! <!-- s:evil: -->:evil:<!-- s:evil: -->
Nawh, just kidding. <!-- s --><!-- s -->
<!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> Shh ! Michael you didn't see that! <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> <!-- s --><!-- s -->
But then again, I don't think Michael would change the date because we predict it, maybe he wants us to predict it that way we'll be ready for it. <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> <!-- s:P -->:P<!-- s:P -->
A familiar Joker has been plotting this P.T.Barnum set up since the early eighties, seriously, and probably toying with something like it, WAY before that, in his kaleidoscopic child mind, where everything is believable and possible.
This is WAAAY before any allegations of misconduct with kids; way before he went intergalactic with his power of influence, and had NWO & political authorities shaking in their boots; and way before anyone deadly evil began to lean on him. This was to be the BIGGEST TRICK EVER, never to be topped. (IDK about everything which came after this.)
His subsequent "comeback", which some have termed a "TAKEOVER" or a "BAM", completely goes along with the idea of a major, MAJOR, riveting, spectacular, surprise EVENT. A production. A SHOW. And, further thinking on this, CdS is a perfect transport "vehicle", back to life, back to reality. Not July. Nov. 5. Cirque de Soleil. <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) -->
Yes, there is a huge event, at the end of all this which is PURELY entertainment, NO MATTER HOW <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> REALISTIC OR FRIGHTENING <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> THINGS GET!! If there are other, serious elements to be resolved, they are not part of the program of the
In fact, TS said a year ago that MJ was ready to return, THEN, so those things must have been resolved then (This includes any legal or FBI things, any "stings", and any undercover operations involving police work.) The only thing which remained then was the prosecution of MJ's "killer"...
All this time has been to really tweak this adventure to the point of feverish insanity, and add more scary chapters to his book/movie. I can hear him saying to his team, like the turtle to the eagle in a cartoon, once, "Higher, Higher" , whispering, (let's take it up another level... wait! just one more... wait! really, one more... wait! last one, honest!!)
He wants to entertain the crap out of us!
He IS and he WILL, too <!-- s:!: -->:!:<!-- s:!: --> <!-- s:!: -->:!:<!-- s:!: --> <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) -->
I think this is BIG. Bigger than the biggest “really big shew” EVER.
The scariest thing I can think of, he probably will not attempt, because some real people might really actually die of deep frozen shock. But, remember, MJ always has FIRST AID staff at his events, so... <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> he might...
Just keep repeating, <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> "It's only a movie, <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> It's only a movie."
I think he'll be back for the Cirque Du Soleil tour beginning in October 2011. I hope so. <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->
I made this post elsewhere but I think it fits here too. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
Nobody knows when Michael is coming except Michael. We created several theories about when he might be coming back but they are just theories not facts. I do believe that Michael decided to come back in July 2011 BUT circumstances can change according to the trial. I do believe that FBI is helping him out to pull this thing, so he can not decide his comeback time on his own. There's a trial procedure going on and NOT everyone is in on the hoax. So this means that not everyone in that courtroom knows about the hoax. It may take longer than we expect. So, there is no rule or no fact about the time he's coming back. If he doesn't come back this July, you guys shouldn't lose your hope and faith for the comeback.
I never believed that he will be coming with a cirque. This is NOT a game. This is a very serious situation. So the ones who are expecting him to appear with the CDS can forget about that because that would never happen. I'm sure that, with the help of FBI Michael will be chosing the best time for him to appear.
Hmm, why are you so sure he won't come back with CDS? I know it's not a game.. but you don't think Michael still wants to perform? He said the stage is his home, and even if he's going to movie-making too, I still think he will perform. I can't imagine him not dancing and singing, it's what he was born to do.
I do not believe he will be coming back with a cirque because this is a serious situation like I wrote and the FBI is involved. I believe that his return will be a formal one and the explanation will be made with the FBI and the LAPD etc. He can not pop up on the stage after 2 years. Faking your death is a crime if you earn money from it. And his return should be a formal one, not something like a cirque. Will he perform after he BAMS? I do not think that he will be touring again. And I do not believe not even a second that he will get on the stage on that cirque. He would definitely be going to watch it but on stage to perform as a part of the CDS? No way.
I think he'll be back for the Cirque Du Soleil tour beginning in October 2011. I hope so. <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->
I made this post elsewhere but I think it fits here too. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
Nobody knows when Michael is coming except Michael. We created several theories about when he might be coming back but they are just theories not facts. I do believe that Michael decided to come back in July 2011 BUT circumstances can change according to the trial. I do believe that FBI is helping him out to pull this thing, so he can not decide his comeback time on his own. There's a trial procedure going on and NOT everyone is in on the hoax. So this means that not everyone in that courtroom knows about the hoax. It may take longer than we expect. So, there is no rule or no fact about the time he's coming back. If he doesn't come back this July, you guys shouldn't lose your hope and faith for the comeback.
I never believed that he will be coming with a cirque. This is NOT a game. This is a very serious situation. So the ones who are expecting him to appear with the CDS can forget about that because that would never happen. I'm sure that, with the help of FBI Michael will be chosing the best time for him to appear.
Hmm, why are you so sure he won't come back with CDS? I know it's not a game.. but you don't think Michael still wants to perform? He said the stage is his home, and even if he's going to movie-making too, I still think he will perform. I can't imagine him not dancing and singing, it's what he was born to do.
We can't decide whether it's going to be a game or not. We have to spot the clues, - and I'm sure some of the new albums are going to have clues and so will the music video for Behind the Mask.
You should know by now (I mean everyone) that Michael is the sorta guy, as a genious, who'd like to fool us a bit and make things difficult. Like a game! We're on a second level here.. <!-- s --><!-- s -->
Just to make something clear, I wasn't talking about the future but I was talking about the fake death when I stated that this is not a game. There's a show part of it yes but even in it, there's seriousness. The FBI is involved in this which makes it serious enough. Hope I'm clear about what I'm trying to say.
I think he'll be back for the Cirque Du Soleil tour beginning in October 2011. I hope so. <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->
I made this post elsewhere but I think it fits here too. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
Nobody knows when Michael is coming except Michael. We created several theories about when he might be coming back but they are just theories not facts. I do believe that Michael decided to come back in July 2011 BUT circumstances can change according to the trial. I do believe that FBI is helping him out to pull this thing, so he can not decide his comeback time on his own. There's a trial procedure going on and NOT everyone is in on the hoax. So this means that not everyone in that courtroom knows about the hoax. It may take longer than we expect. So, there is no rule or no fact about the time he's coming back. If he doesn't come back this July, you guys shouldn't lose your hope and faith for the comeback.
I never believed that he will be coming with a cirque. This is NOT a game. This is a very serious situation. So the ones who are expecting him to appear with the CDS can forget about that because that would never happen. I'm sure that, with the help of FBI Michael will be chosing the best time for him to appear.
Hmm, why are you so sure he won't come back with CDS? I know it's not a game.. but you don't think Michael still wants to perform? He said the stage is his home, and even if he's going to movie-making too, I still think he will perform. I can't imagine him not dancing and singing, it's what he was born to do.
I do not believe he will be coming back with a cirque because this is a serious situation like I wrote and the FBI is involved. I believe that his return will be a formal one and the explanation will be made with the FBI and the LAPD etc. He can not pop up on the stage after 2 years. Faking your death is a crime if you earn money from it. And his return should be a formal one, not something like a cirque. Will he perform after he BAMS? I do not think that he will be touring again. And I do not believe not even a second that he will get on the stage on that cirque. He would definitely be going to watch it but on stage to perform as a part of the CDS? No way.
I understand, but I didn't technically mean coming back with cirque du soleil, i meant i hope he'll perform with them on the tour after he comes back, I think he'll come back in July, but I also think he's performing with CDS on the Immortal Tour.
I do not believe he will be coming back with a cirque because this is a serious situation like I wrote and the FBI is involved. I believe that his return will be a formal one and the explanation will be made with the FBI and the LAPD etc. He can not pop up on the stage after 2 years. Faking your death is a crime if you earn money from it. And his return should be a formal one, not something like a cirque. Will he perform after he BAMS? I do not think that he will be touring again. And I do not believe not even a second that he will get on the stage on that cirque. He would definitely be going to watch it but on stage to perform as a part of the CDS? No way.
I understand, but I didn't technically mean coming back with cirque du soleil, i meant i hope he'll perform with them on the tour after he comes back, I think he'll come back in July, but I also think he's performing with CDS on the Immortal Tour.
I think he'll be back for the Cirque Du Soleil tour beginning in October 2011. I hope so. <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->
Ahhh ok. This post of yours made me think that you were expecting him to come back with the CDS. Many people still think that way. I do not have any predictions about the come back actually. July sounds plausible to me too but it can be delayed. I still do not believe that he will be performing with the CDS though but who knows. We'll wait and see. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
Cirque de Soleil is the perfect vehicle for the return! People won't expect it, because the Immortal Tour is ABOUT him, showcasing his talent, right? When CdS did a show incorporating The Beatles, they weren't in it, performing live, right? And not just because some of them had died.
This may be off the wall, but I keep thinking about the show MJ was working on for the O2, and how everyone thought we would never get to see that show in its entirety. There was some banter about the aerialists performing either over a bed or on a bed, and someone asked MJ where HE's gonna be during all this, and he said, "In the bed with the gurls!, where else? heh heh heh"
Well, what if he wasn't kidding? What if ONE of the CdS shows, "he" gets into bed with them, as an actor playing his part, and pulls a "Billie Jean" disappearance from the bed, just as in his short film? Then, what if he reappears somewhere else, in Houdini-like fashion---say, that famous Houdini switcheroo done with the coffin, "MetaMORPHosis"---no spiders---and this time, it is really MJ, not the actor!
Someone IN the show, would have to introduce /announce his presence "as if" this is someone more than the dancer playing his part, "the One the ONLY", Michael Jackson, because people are people and would never expect the real one to come back from the dead!!
After thunderous applause, people will STILL be shaking their heads and wondering why the others THOUGHT they were clapping for a REAL MJ. Some will convince each other it was just a REALLY great ("YOU almost GOT me with that !" <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> ) show. In fact, this is what the press reviews will actually say. <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) --> But, some fans will KNOW who they saw! It will light up this board <!-- s:!: -->:!:<!-- s:!: --> <!-- s:!: -->:!:<!-- s:!: --> <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
Ok---it is not much of a BAM or <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> SHOCK, because NO one will believe it the next day, as even some who WERE half convinced will be talked out of it, themselves, in 24 hours... But, it generates more "is he or isn't he" mystery...people starting to see things again, setting people up for THE BIG ONE, whatever that will be. And more people will go to the show to see this REALISTIC MJ, but it will not repeat, so the others will look like they have been seeing things. It will be great "push me-pull you", while the rest of us expect the OTHER shoe to drop, for the real BAM, any day after that... I mean, wouldn't he tell his friends FIRST with some kind of a heads up???
I don't think it can be in July because this show won't be on yet. Also, we don't have any surety that the Murray trial will be all done by then. Things happen. MJ won't show himself alive, before the trial reaches a verdict.
But, here is something, for those who are hell bent on July: I threw this out in PM, and no one was impressed, but the more I consider it, it COULD HAPPEN. Years ago, on July 7th, Houdini performed an elaborate ESCAPE FROM JAIL trick. Perhaps Murray will be convicted and MJ coming back is his only "Get out of jail free" card.
Two other things came to mind, that a card such as that does exist in the Monopoly Game. "Monopoly" is another word for "Takeover", which "Back" referred to in one of his rants. Perhaps MJ has been secretly buying up major interest in EVERYTHING--(and people laughed at me when I suggested last year, he could own AT&T, AND Sony...) because he is SICK and TIRED of all the godforsaken greed, by which some companies are manipulated. IDK, just brainstorming. <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
Perhaps one day soon, his calm <!-- s:ugeek: -->:ugeek:<!-- s:ugeek: --> face will appear on everyone's TV screen, every possible channel at once, all day, and say, in a loop, with a subtle crotch grab <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> : "I GOT YOUR NEW WORLD ORDER"! <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) -->
Cirque de Soleil is the perfect vehicle for the return if this hoax is for entertainment. If FBI is in or the reason of the hoax is not entertainment related i doubt we will see a second Thriller show. I see it more like a conference, because i think the reason of the hoax is highly serious.
Cirque de Soleil is the perfect vehicle for the return if this hoax is for entertainment. If FBI is in or the reason of the hoax is not entertainment related i doubt we will see a second Thriller show. I see it more like a conference, because i think the reason of the hoax is highly serious.
Exactly! People still see this hoax like a game but it is NOT. The return will be a formal one like a conference with the FBI.
OMG what is it with everyone? This hoax is coming to an end and everyone feels negative. Look at all the proof we got. TS has been helping us find clues.i feel TS is a person who is very close to Michael. What more you do want? If he doesn't come back this July he will next. We have to give Michael the space he needs. We need to be positive, not negative. Do you think if Michael reads this post he will be happy? What will he say? He will say they lost faith in me. So please pick up yourselves and be positive, when someone is positive your energy brings good things, imagine all of us what we can do, our energy can bring back even earlier. PLEASE BE POSITIVE AND HAVE FAITH. BLESSINGS.
I'm certain he's alive, just not so sure about a comeback. It'll be cool though if he did, but I think it would defeat the purpose if he came back.
Why wouldn't he come back? He has no choice he left his children.. He will not abandon his children. He will return if not this July it will be next yr 2012 with LCDS..
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Totally agree!
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Could you be more specific, please.
Is there a way to come back that would be more acceptable/ less dangerous/ wiser than another kind of comeback ?
Would a comeback not have one and the same effect no matter how it's
done ?
Give me some alternative ways of returning and let's compare their consequences.
Don't get me wrong son, I just want to challenge you a bit here to strengthen your point.
It could either mean coming back to the public eye again and things going "back to normal" (he may return to performing or he could start directing or writing instead). This is what a lot of hoax believers expect to happen. <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> I wouldn't hold my breath.
Or it could mean giving a public message (via satellite perhaps) about him being alive (but remaining in hiding in the process). This would be the safer bet because it most likely would not endanger his life, but coming back in general might hurt his image.
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sure it's not gonna be easy.not everybody will welcome him.But i also strongly believe that Michael never had no choice,he had to fake his death to save his own life.and make sure his children will have him around for many years to come.
Knowing he is alive..
Well, I am a believer and I'm against the idea of Michael being dead. With all the clues and other "coindicences" I don't think we can call this all a coincidence anymore. But - we can't say for sure "he is alive". Can we? I am not entirely sure.
To be honest we've collected hundreds of clues and we're no longer crossing between coincidence and truth. This is it, this is the truth. And I know he is alive but we can't say for sure - I mean, it could be just MJ's genious mind playing with us. What I'd like to see is a picture.. although.. photoshop exists.
All those are some pretty interesting dates, especially July with the court ending, I didn't know that until now <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> the "See you in July 2011" autograph was what really pulled me to believing July '11.
& that's also why I have no doubt that he will come back; the clues and the flaws in his death. Michael's a perfectionist, and if he faked his death to get out of the public's eye, then I really believe that he would've perfected this death to every last detail. We wouldn't of had a "weird list" with over 100 items, etc.
Yeah, but I'm also scared that Michael will pick a date we haven't listed so that we'll be surprised. So shh! no more talking of dates!! <!-- s
Too bad I said it now, it's no longer a surprise. And he won't come back 'cus he is probably browsing through these forums! And he saw my predictions! <!-- s:evil: -->:evil:<!-- s:evil: -->
Nawh, just kidding. <!-- s
He really can returns in July. Chance of 50%, perhaps!
I made this post elsewhere but I think it fits here too. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
Hmm, why are you so sure he won't come back with CDS? I know it's not a game.. but you don't think Michael still wants to perform? He said the stage is his home, and even if he's going to movie-making too, I still think he will perform. I can't imagine him not dancing and singing, it's what he was born to do.
You should know by now (I mean everyone) that Michael is the sorta guy, as a genious, who'd like to fool us a bit and make things difficult. Like a game! We're on a second level here.. <!-- s
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But then again, I don't think Michael would change the date because we predict it, maybe he wants us to predict it that way we'll be ready for it. <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> <!-- s:P -->:P<!-- s:P -->
A familiar Joker has been plotting this P.T.Barnum set up since the early eighties, seriously, and probably toying with something like it, WAY before that, in his kaleidoscopic child mind, where everything is believable and possible.
This is WAAAY before any allegations of misconduct with kids; way before he went intergalactic with his power of influence, and had NWO & political authorities shaking in their boots; and way before anyone deadly evil began to lean on him. This was to be the BIGGEST TRICK EVER, never to be topped. (IDK about everything which came after this.)
His subsequent "comeback", which some have termed a "TAKEOVER" or a "BAM", completely goes along with the idea of a major, MAJOR, riveting, spectacular, surprise EVENT. A production. A SHOW. And, further thinking on this, CdS is a perfect transport "vehicle", back to life, back to reality. Not July. Nov. 5. Cirque de Soleil. <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) -->
Yes, there is a huge event, at the end of all this which is PURELY entertainment, NO MATTER HOW <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> REALISTIC OR FRIGHTENING <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> THINGS GET!! If there are other, serious elements to be resolved, they are not part of the program of the
"BAM <!-- s:!: -->:!:<!-- s:!: --> " (unless .... <!-- s:P -->:P<!-- s:P --> ).
In fact, TS said a year ago that MJ was ready to return, THEN, so those things must have been resolved then (This includes any legal or FBI things, any "stings", and any undercover operations involving police work.) The only thing which remained then was the prosecution of MJ's "killer"...
All this time has been to really tweak this adventure to the point of feverish insanity, and add more scary chapters to his book/movie. I can hear him saying to his team, like the turtle to the eagle in a cartoon, once, "Higher, Higher" , whispering, (let's take it up another level... wait! just one more... wait! really, one more... wait! last one, honest!!)
He wants to entertain the crap out of us!
He IS and he WILL, too <!-- s:!: -->:!:<!-- s:!: --> <!-- s:!: -->:!:<!-- s:!: --> <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) -->
I think this is BIG. Bigger than the biggest “really big shew” EVER.
The scariest thing I can think of, he probably will not attempt, because some real people might really actually die of deep frozen shock. But, remember, MJ always has FIRST AID staff at his events, so... <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> he might...
Just keep repeating, <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> "It's only a movie, <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> It's only a movie."
Really. <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
I do not believe he will be coming back with a cirque because this is a serious situation like I wrote and the FBI is involved. I believe that his return will be a formal one and the explanation will be made with the FBI and the LAPD etc. He can not pop up on the stage after 2 years. Faking your death is a crime if you earn money from it. And his return should be a formal one, not something like a cirque. Will he perform after he BAMS? I do not think that he will be touring again. And I do not believe not even a second that he will get on the stage on that cirque. He would definitely be going to watch it but on stage to perform as a part of the CDS? No way.
Just to make something clear, I wasn't talking about the future but I was talking about the fake death when I stated that this is not a game. There's a show part of it yes but even in it, there's seriousness. The FBI is involved in this which makes it serious enough. Hope I'm clear about what I'm trying to say.
I understand, but I didn't technically mean coming back with cirque du soleil, i meant i hope he'll perform with them on the tour after he comes back, I think he'll come back in July, but I also think he's performing with CDS on the Immortal Tour.
Ahhh ok. This post of yours made me think that you were expecting him to come back with the CDS. Many people still think that way. I do not have any predictions about the come back actually. July sounds plausible to me too but it can be delayed. I still do not believe that he will be performing with the CDS though but who knows. We'll wait and see. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
This may be off the wall, but I keep thinking about the show MJ was working on for the O2, and how everyone thought we would never get to see that show in its entirety. There was some banter about the aerialists performing either over a bed or on a bed, and someone asked MJ where HE's gonna be during all this, and he said, "In the bed with the gurls!, where else? heh heh heh"
Well, what if he wasn't kidding? What if ONE of the CdS shows, "he" gets into bed with them, as an actor playing his part, and pulls a "Billie Jean" disappearance from the bed, just as in his short film? Then, what if he reappears somewhere else, in Houdini-like fashion---say, that famous Houdini switcheroo done with the coffin, "MetaMORPHosis"---no spiders---and this time, it is really MJ, not the actor!
Someone IN the show, would have to introduce /announce his presence "as if" this is someone more than the dancer playing his part, "the One the ONLY", Michael Jackson, because people are people and would never expect the real one to come back from the dead!!
After thunderous applause, people will STILL be shaking their heads and wondering why the others THOUGHT they were clapping for a REAL MJ. Some will convince each other it was just a REALLY great ("YOU almost GOT me with that !" <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> ) show. In fact, this is what the press reviews will actually say. <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) --> But, some fans will KNOW who they saw! It will light up this board <!-- s:!: -->:!:<!-- s:!: --> <!-- s:!: -->:!:<!-- s:!: --> <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
Ok---it is not much of a BAM or <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> SHOCK, because NO one will believe it the next day, as even some who WERE half convinced will be talked out of it, themselves, in 24 hours... But, it generates more "is he or isn't he" mystery...people starting to see things again, setting people up for THE BIG ONE, whatever that will be. And more people will go to the show to see this REALISTIC MJ, but it will not repeat, so the others will look like they have been seeing things. It will be great "push me-pull you", while the rest of us expect the OTHER shoe to drop, for the real BAM, any day after that... I mean, wouldn't he tell his friends FIRST with some kind of a heads up???
I don't think it can be in July because this show won't be on yet. Also, we don't have any surety that the Murray trial will be all done by then. Things happen. MJ won't show himself alive, before the trial reaches a verdict.
But, here is something, for those who are hell bent on July: I threw this out in PM, and no one was impressed, but the more I consider it, it COULD HAPPEN. Years ago, on July 7th, Houdini performed an elaborate ESCAPE FROM JAIL trick. Perhaps Murray will be convicted and MJ coming back is his only "Get out of jail free" card.
Two other things came to mind, that a card such as that does exist in the Monopoly Game. "Monopoly" is another word for "Takeover", which "Back" referred to in one of his rants. Perhaps MJ has been secretly buying up major interest in EVERYTHING--(and people laughed at me when I suggested last year, he could own AT&T, AND Sony...) because he is SICK and TIRED of all the godforsaken greed, by which some companies are manipulated. IDK, just brainstorming. <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
Perhaps one day soon, his calm <!-- s:ugeek: -->:ugeek:<!-- s:ugeek: --> face will appear on everyone's TV screen, every possible channel at once, all day, and say, in a loop, with a subtle crotch grab <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> : "I GOT YOUR NEW WORLD ORDER"! <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) -->
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Exactly! People still see this hoax like a game but it is NOT. The return will be a formal one like a conference with the FBI.
Why wouldn't he come back? He has no choice he left his children.. He will not abandon his children. He will return if not this July it will be next yr 2012 with LCDS..