<br />I don't know what to make out of it yet, but if the tickets go on sale on August 4 and IF the Estate decides to shut this down, people will loose money and that is fraud. I don't see Mrs. Katherine being at the head of a fraud maneouvre with the people.<br />
<br /><br />That would make Mike a fraud too, since there were tickets sold for the O2 concerts. I don't think it were that many as they made us believe, but still there are many fans that lost money, even if they got a refund (travelling costs, plane tickets, hotel reservations etc.)<br /><br />I don't think the tickets will ever go on sale though. I tried to buy tickets of Jermaine's tribute back in 2009, and I was unable to purchase them. Either this will be cancelled before the tickets go on sale, or you won't be able to buy them one way or another. Happens every time.
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
<br />I don't know what to make out of it yet, but if the tickets go on sale on August 4 and IF the Estate decides to shut this down, people will loose money and that is fraud. I don't see Mrs. Katherine being at the head of a fraud maneouvre with the people.<br />
<br /><br />Well you're jumping the gun anna, tickets haven't gone on sale yet, nor has the 2nd press conference (8/3) occured. Don't count your tickets before they are sold.<br /><br />On a side note: tickets were sold to the TII concerts in 2009.
Could the Estate really shut it down? On the website, they don't use MJ's picture or even his full name. The only place I see where his full name is used is in the message from Katherine Jackson. MJ's estate was left to her and his children. Would she still need permission to use her son's name in an announcement of this kind? <br /><br />Also, there are other Michael Jackson Tribute Concerts selling tickets that ARE using MJ's likeness and his name. There is even another one on October 8 in Houston dubbed Who's Bad: The Ultimate Michael Jackson Tribute. I wonder did they get permission?<br /><br />Just curious...
It all depends on the script. Anything is possible, we will have to wait and see. It's hard to predict events and occurrences because this is straight out of the imagination of director Michael Jackson. <br /><br />But I'm betting no tickets get sold and the entire production is canceled due to copyright claims by the Estate.
So basically this announcement was made (on a 777 date) to drop some hoax hints.<br /><br />But don't make it too obvious for people, gotta have Jermaine and Randy saying "oh no you didn't!"
Well, there's the, "a sucker is born every minute". Did everyone get their money back with the TII, 02 concerts?<br />We simply can't verify the dividing line between the evil greedy people surrounding MJ, and his actual hoax.<br /><br />
Bec<br />Matthew 10:8<br />New International Version (NIV)<br /><br />8 Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse those who have leprosy,[a] drive out demons. Freely you have received; freely give.<br />Footnotes:<br />1. Matthew 10:8 The Greek word traditionally translated leprosy was used for various diseases affecting the skin
<br />Good connection! Interesting that 'Michael' is pre-vitilago MJ. Did something truly miraculous take place? Do we still BELIEVE in miracles? Did hoax and miracle from God come together?
Hi Guys! <br />I'm new here so "hello everyone!!" <br />I've been looking at so many things online recently about Michael Jackson's 'death' and I have to say I have come across some rather compeling info on it all. I've read a lot about the hidden messages in certain things and the whole number theory which I find very interesting! <br />As I have come to this much later than most people I feel like I need to play catch up on a lot of it though. I was particularly interested in some posts I read here about 'BACK'. I have tried to follow up on some earlier posts but it seems that a lot of the links are no longer available, this also seems to be the case with links to videos of certain people with links to Michael making slip ups in interviews ect... I have seen a lot of info, 1 thing that sums up many things I have seen is a post (I'll try find where I saw it but I have also seen it here) about 117 reasons as to why it could be a hoax. <br />But I'd still like to track back and find out more, so if anyone has some earlier or important links I can check out I'd be very grateful! <br />(sorry if this makes you repeat stuff you have already posted!!!)<br />Well, I hope to hear from you all!!<br />L.O.V.E<br />Annie Crescendo<br />
my first post in the new forum yay!<br />The thing i don't like about this ''tribute'' is that you have to donate first, and you are not sure to have a ticket...So you give money BEFORE...and they said on the Michael Forever Tribute, the more you donate, the more you have a chance to get a ticket...So if they decide to canceled the show 2 days before, all the donation you give is it going to be refund?? or they can said: You donate for charity it's you choice...
<br />Well, there's the, "a sucker is born every minute". Did everyone get their money back with the TII, 02 concerts?<br />We simply can't verify the dividing line between the evil greedy people surrounding MJ, and his actual hoax.<br /><br />
Bec<br />Matthew 10:8<br />New International Version (NIV)<br /><br />8 Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse those who have leprosy,[a] drive out demons. Freely you have received; freely give.<br />Footnotes:<br />1. Matthew 10:8 The Greek word traditionally translated leprosy was used for various diseases affecting the skin
<br />Good connection! Interesting that 'Michael' is pre-vitilago MJ. Did something truly miraculous take place? Do we still BELIEVE in miracles? Did hoax and miracle from God come together?<br />
<br /><br />Interesting indeed because I thought about that the first time I saw the "Michael" album cover...we could possibly hmm...witness a real Miracle. I actually told to myself "oh boy Michael is going to come back like that hence why "the eyes have it""LOL. (no appropriate smiley available).<br /><br />
my first post in the new forum yay!<br />The thing i don't like about this ''tribute'' is that you have to donate first, and you are not sure to have a ticket...So you give money BEFORE...and they said on the Michael Forever Tribute, the more you donate, the more you have a chance to get a ticket...So if they decide to canceled the show 2 days before, all the donation you give is it going to be refund?? or they can said: You donate for charity it's you choice...<br /><br /><br />Sounds like a scam to me,but just thinking out loud,
<br />my first post in the new forum yay!<br />The thing i don't like about this ''tribute'' is that you have to donate first, and you are not sure to have a ticket...So you give money BEFORE...and they said on the Michael Forever Tribute, the more you donate, the more you have a chance to get a ticket...So if they decide to canceled the show 2 days before, all the donation you give is it going to be refund?? or they can said: You donate for charity it's you choice...<br /><br /><br />Sounds like a scam to me,but just thinking out loud,<br />
<br /><br />While I admit their tactics on getting ticket sales are extremely off, I do like what they are trying to do (I think). I wonder if this is a scam how they were able to get Katherine in on it. She has a lawyer right? I would think before she signed up to join with Globalive she would of had her lawyer or someone for that matter read through what exactly what the procedures were. Perhaps I'm wrong about that. <br /><br />I wonder how they are going to do this if the people that are purchasing these "tickets" have to jump threw hoops just to get them. If I were an artist I wouldn't want to sign up for this event!
so is this globle live bunch connected to the two people that posters were asking randy questions about katherine's association with when he was on twitter a while back ?
<br />So basically this announcement was made (on a 777 date) to drop some hoax hints.<br /><br />But don't make it too obvious for people, gotta have Jermaine and Randy saying "oh no you didn't!"<br />
<br /><br />There has to be contradiction everywhere. Family never agrees with each other. They wanted to make a tribute but Randy and Jermaine didn't. Most of them say that Michael was murdered but Katherine says he wasn't. I remember what Teddy said about Michael. "Michael lives for controversy." <br /><br />I don't think this tribute is going to happen. Let's wait and see what they will say on the second announcement.
[size=10pt]I think there is more to Cardiff than the “Cardiff Giant”. <br /><br />Cardiff is the capital of Wales and Princess Diana was the Princess of Wales whilst married to Prince Charles, the current Prince of Wales. Mohamed Al Fayed, the father of Dodi who was killed in the car crash with Princess Diana on the 31st August 1997, erected a statue of Michael on April 3rd 2011. This was also Paris’ Birthday and Dodo 400th Birthday.<br />It is the same Mohamed Al Fayed who financed Unlawful Killing, the documentary that examines an alleged cover-up over the death of Princess Diana and first aired during the Cannes Film Festival this year.<br /><br /> <br /> <br /><br />On the 22nd July 2011, the Express (A NON MURDOCH Newspaper) published an article stating that “TWO of Britain’s leading former police officers are wanted for questioning over allegations that they withheld crucial evidence about the car crash which killed Princess Diana. A French judge wants to ask ex-Yard chief Lord Condon and Sir David Veness why they failed to disclose the existence of a note in which she predicted her assassination.”<br />Express Article:http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/260394/260394<br /><br />Let’s also remember that during the tribute concert announcement, it was stated that the Tribute Concert will serve as a memory of Michael’s life and will benefit three charities - AIDS Project L.A., a cancer charity, and The Prince's Trust. <br />On July 16th 1988, Michael Meets Princess Diana and Prince Charles in Wembley prior to performing a bit later. He Donated $450,000 to a number of charities including the Prince’s trust.<br /><br /><br /><br />Globalive stated that they were to open a TRUST for Michael’s Children and it was made very clear that the charity pledge would be formally audited (with a hint that charity donations were not always made best use of)<br />This later made me think that maybe, just maybe, the Prince’s Trust was not as efficient a charity as it claimed to be, pointing the fingers to the Future King POOR judgement.<br />And indeed, the Prince’s Trust does not appear to make the most of the donations received:<br />- A £20million loan taken on a property saddles the foundation with serious dates. The foundation has admitted it has already had to stump up £5million - which could have gone to other worthy causes - in a bid to reduce the debt.<br />Reference - Daily Mail 9/10/10:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1310360/Prince-Charless-bad-property-deal-saddles-foundation-debt.html<br />- The Prince’s Foundation for Integrated Health to be shut down after fraud investigation.<br />Reference - Times 5/1/2010:http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article7113692.ece<br />I will stop here as there are many more articles that underline what are at best error of judgements in the handling of the Prince’s charitable foundations![/size]<br /><br />[size=12pt]So is the Welsh Connection pointing at Princess Diana and the British Monarchy (through its future King, the Prince of Wales)?[/size]<br /><br />[size=12pt]With L.O.V.E[/size]
Thanks for all your work in putting your post together, TheRunningGirl! These Cardiff links are pretty clear to me. What I also found interesting is that Pierce Morgan clearly believes the Monarchy was behind the killing of Princess Diana. He has replaced Larry King's position and did an awesome job of interviewing people close to Michael, clearly a fan of his. He's a good man.
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"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."