@ Lilwendy I am not sure about what you mean because in the connections about "N" it has to do with timing and because it's Michael's family. For example there is a reason why we take La Toya’s tweet as a clue. In my timing Front posted the “Spider cake” picture on 31 Aug 2011 – and he mentions the missing “N” again. The day after on 1st September La Toya tweeted that she went to the hospital “N the morning”. It’s not a coincidence and she could have written “in” which isn’t such a long word. <br /><br />I have also included the link to another tweet she made concerning this incident where she mentions that she might have been bitten by an insect: Twitter – and this connects to the “Spider” in Front’s cake picture, as a spider is also an insect. <br /><br />So it’s really a big clue because of the timing, the “N” capitalized, the mention of “insect” (aka spider) and because it’s Michael’s sister.<br /><br />Something else comes to my mind now – she also posted a picture of herself at the hospital and at the time we had fun analyzing the picture:<br />http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg814/scaled.php?tn=0&server=814&filename=2awi.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640<br /><br />In the little screen in the background there seems to be something that looks like a spider… :animal0017:<br /><br /><br /><br />So I would say that it doesn't matter if others do the same because there is nothing connecting their "N" to Front... :icon_lol: ... and sorry if I misunderstood you. :icon_mrgreen:
<br />Well, at least now y'all know who Front is----> <br /><br />Love, <br />Mr. Pumpkin <br />xo <br /><br />:icon_lol:<br /><br />p.s. just wanna say to Sarahli -- all your hard work & efforts are greatly appreciated. This was obviously very time-consuming and took a lot of digging and researching.<br />
<br /><br />Thank you Mr. Pumpkin. :icon_lol: Your appreciation is appreciated. :beerchug:
Sarahli as Mr. Front said all of your hard work and efforts are appreciated. You started a great thread and the priceless information that has come from your hard work and others is "HUGE". Thank you. :bearhug:<br /><br />P.S. Mr Front - Pumpkins are my all time favorite! I love seeing fields of unpicked pumpkins, I want to pick them all and take them home!!!!! Sorry for being so strange :bearhug:
I heard your work might even change the minds of some over at .net, hahahaha. Good job!
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
<br />Mickey Mouse, Pink Panther, Mr. Nappy Head, Monkey, and now Mr. Pumpkin! <br />Mr. Pumpkin is our forum colors too! Are you also a chameleon? :icon_lol:<br />
You forgot AppleHead! :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol:
<br />Mickey Mouse, Pink Panther, Mr. Nappy Head, Monkey, and now Mr. Pumpkin! <br />Mr. Pumpkin is our forum colors too! Are you also a chameleon? :icon_lol:<br />
<br />Mickey Mouse, Pink Panther, Mr. Nappy Head, Monkey, and now Mr. Pumpkin! <br />Mr. Pumpkin is our forum colors too! Are you also a chameleon? :icon_lol:<br />
You forgot AppleHead! :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol:<br />
<br />Well, at least now y'all know who Front is----> <br /><br />Love, <br />Mr. Pumpkin <br />xo <br /><br />:icon_lol:<br /><br />p.s. just wanna say to Sarahli -- all your hard work & efforts are greatly appreciated. This was obviously very time-consuming and took a lot of digging and researching.<br />
<br /><br />Sorry Front, but not all of us know (or beLIEVE) who you are yet but other than your little rant at French Braid your character has been pretty consistent so I give you much kudo's for being patient, persistent, and understanding. :suspect: :suspect: :smiley-vault-misc-150:<br /><br />Sarahli - you've done an excellent job of putting this information together. It's drawing me close to the edge of understanding. Thank you <br /><br />CC - I don't think those letters match at all but maybe it's my skeptical mind at work. I'll keep trying to see the connection.<br /><br />I have to ask about the monkey drawing though vs the Little Me drawing - what is the connection? I'm sorry that I don't understand. <br /><br />On the same vein - my son, who is a natural artist, could draw a monkey like that when he was very young. It makes it hard for me to believe that Michael, who is an incredible artist in his own right, would draw that monkey. Even to throw something together for us, I just don't see it. Sorry, Front. If you are Michael I guess my perception of you is waaaaaaaaaaay off. At any rate when the truth is told I'll have learned much about my own preconceived ideas and how they stack up to reality. Blessings to you all the same.<br /><br />Question - was the Orange forum color the same on the first MJHD site that was ran by Amy? Or, is it a color that came later?
Sarahli always trying to bring info to the lost!<br /><br />I should say that what got me a little doubting myself was the Facebook post about MJ´s quote of the present and the drawing "little me".<br /><br />Still, and Sarahli , pls, don´t get angry with me, I can´t say that Front=MJ, but I am open to think that for whatever reason there is a connection this time between Front´s posts and MJ´s Facebook. I don´t know the reason yet, but it got me a bit nervous those 2 coincidences.<br /><br />
@voice hi!! the conection between facebook and front is that both post picture almost at the same time, just that. i think the monkey is not good, already said that to front. i expect much more from him (lol) the letters for me are similiar, not the same, like someone is trying to copy the style, just that.<br /><br />@MissG i think the same! maybe a conection, but idk why??
<br />@voice hi!! the conection between facebook and front is that both post picture almost at the same time, just that. i think the monkey is not good, already said that to front. i expect much more from him (lol) the letters for me are similiar, not the same, like someone is trying to copy the style, just that.<br /><br />@MissG i think the same! maybe a conection, but idk why??<br />
<br /><br />Thank you for taking the time to explain. It's much clearer now.<br /><br />So - is it possible to post pictures on two different websites/forums at the same time? And is it possible to be a coincidence? MJ's official website posts pictures all the time. If the pictures were the same then I'd :affraid:<br /><br />Front - how about it...same picture at exact same time on both sites. Then you'd have me reeled in.<br /><br />Blessings
<br />@voice hi!! the conection between facebook and front is that both post picture almost at the same time, just that. i think the monkey is not good, already said that to front. i expect much more from him (lol) the letters for me are similiar, not the same, like someone is trying to copy the style, just that.<br /><br />@MissG i think the same! maybe a conection, but idk why??<br />
<br /><br />Thank you for taking the time to explain. It's much clearer now.<br /><br />So - is it possible to post pictures on two different websites/forums at the same time? And is it possible to be a coincidence? MJ's official website posts pictures all the time. If the pictures were the same then I'd :affraid:<br /><br />Front - how about it...same picture at exact same time on both sites. Then you'd have me reeled in.<br /><br />Blessings<br />
<br /><br />not the same picture, front posted the monkey and michael jackson the little me picture, childish drawings both, just that!
On the same vein - my son, who is a natural artist, could draw a monkey like that when he was very young. It makes it hard for me to believe that Michael, who is an incredible artist in his own right, would draw that monkey. Even to throw something together for us, I just don't see it. Sorry, Front. If you are Michael I guess my perception of you is waaaaaaaaaaay off. At any rate when the truth is told I'll have learned much about my own preconceived ideas and how they stack up to reality. Blessings to you all the same.
<br /><br />Dear voice, I hear what you are saying, but I hope you can take on board these points too. <br /><br />1. Regarding you saying that Michael is an artist and wouldn’t draw this monkey - please note that Front responded to some posts requesting a sketch. Within minutes, he had posted that Monkey sketch. So it was just something he did very quickly. I don’t think it was meant to be a major piece of fine art. So try to see this in context.<br /><br />2. I believe this was just a little cheerful gift to help lighten the mood somewhat, just like he has done in the past. So not something to be taken so seriously.<br /><br />3. Lastly, in all honesty, IMO, he wasn’t trying to prove anything to anyone with that sketch.<br /><br />Blessings to you too always. :bearhug:
I haven't looked at Front's posts since before Murray's trial, but Sarahli's timeline caught my eye. I can imagine how much work went into it, thank you for that.<br /><br />At this point I have no opinion on Front's identity but two things in this timeline are hard to ignore. First is the chronology of the missing “N”s, ending at the coroner's photo. I hadn't noticed that before. <br /><br />N is the 14th letter of the alphabet and, according to this <br />Biblical Meaning of Numbers - Biblical Numerology - The List Teaser Chart <br /><br />14 means:<br />Fourteen : 14 - This Biblical Meaning of Number 14: comes from my understanding that it normally deals with one gaining a spiritual perfection that is doubled measured in strength or spiritual completeness that is twice over. <br /><br />Also hard to write off as coincidence is Front's song “99 bottles of propofol” posted the month before the trial started. I don't think anyone knew just how much propofol had been ordered before the trial, did they?<br /><br />Sigh..... sometimes I feel like “Keep watchin'” was a curse!<br /><br />
<br />I haven't looked at Front's posts since before Murray's trial, but Sarahli's timeline caught my eye. I can imagine how much work went into it, thank you for that.<br /><br />At this point I have no opinion on Front's identity but two things in this timeline are hard to ignore. First is the chronology of the missing “N”s, ending at the coroner's photo. I hadn't noticed that before. <br /><br />N is the 14th letter of the alphabet and, according to this <br />Biblical Meaning of Numbers - Biblical Numerology - The List Teaser Chart <br /><br />14 means:<br />Fourteen : 14 - This Biblical Meaning of Number 14: comes from my understanding that it normally deals with one gaining a spiritual perfection that is doubled measured in strength or spiritual completeness that is twice over. <br /><br />Also hard to write off as coincidence is Front's song “99 bottles of propofol” posted the month before the trial started. I don't think anyone knew just how much propofol had been ordered before the trial, did they?<br /><br />Sigh..... sometimes I feel like “Keep watchin'” was a curse!<br />
<br /><br />Glad to see you, Just Ducky - I agree...those are for undeniable connections that cannot be ignored, which is why I think Front is someone in the know but not necessarily Michael. I also think the spider connections are too coincidental.<br /><br />Sarahli - you are awesome. Thank you for being so patient with me. What you say is true as well. I've struggled with seeing the lighthearted humor mixed into this hoax, which is odd because I naturally try to keep situations lighthearted. Maybe because I feel like the hoax was spawned from something much deeper than creating humor for MJ's supporters and fans. But yes, it can't all be serious, right?<br /><br />L.O.V.E. to you - keep up the good work on this thread. It's extremely valuable having these connections together like this.
I don't think anyone knew just how much propofol had been ordered before the trial, did they?
<br /><br />I remember that it was a very big surprise for all to learn just how much Propofol Murray had ordered. And who could have known that it would be presented this way during the trial --displaying exhibits like they did showing clearly all those Propofol bottles…<br /><br />Just for a reminder:<br />
Lopez had testified in January that Dr Murray bought 255 vials of Propofol in the three months before the singer died from a lethal combination of the drug and other sedatives.
<br />Read more: 'Michael Jackson drank Propofol before he died': Conrad Murray trial turned upside down? | Mail Online<br /><br />@ Voice, I understand that you may only see the serious aspect of the Hoax and it’s the most important one because it’s not been designed for our entertainment but some humour from time to time is very helpful and needed to keep going and I think that it’s an aspect of the “reality game” -- the spontaneity of exchanges. That’s why certain things like the snippets or the monkey sketch aren’t meant to be taken so seriously but just for the bit of fun we can indulge in.<br /><br />Again thank you to everyone for all your appreciation.<br />
<br />Also hard to write off as coincidence is Front's song “99 bottles of propofol” posted the month before the trial started. I don't think anyone knew just how much propofol had been ordered before the trial, did they?<br />
<br /><br />Actually, that was known since the preliminary hearing in January 2011 (about 9 months before the trial) from Tim Lopez' testimony (a lot of things were testified about at the prelim, so a lot of things that were later mentioned during the trial had been in the news in January 2011 already):<br /><br />Michael Jackson Murder Trial UPDATE-Missing Witness Found In The Dr. Conrad Murray Case | Baby Boomer Advisor Club<br /><br />Pharmacist Tim Lopez testified at Murray’s preliminary hearing in January of 2011. He stated that he shipped more than 15 liters of the surgical anesthetic propofol, to the apartment of Murray’s girlfriend (he is married by the way) over the three months before Michael Jackson’s death.<br /><br />Does 15 liters seem like an awful lot of propofol to anyone else but me? Granted I am not a physician but…who was he treating an army platoon?<br /><br />P. S. It says January as well in the link that Sarahli quoted.
<br />And if Front is NOT Michael then he is Jermai_e. :icon_lol: :suspect: :icon_e_confused: :icon_eek: :icon_bounce: :icon_lol:<br />
<br /><br />Well, I think that's not such a stupid idea. I think that's a very good second choice actually. Hmmmmmm.....<br />
<br /><br />It's something I've been considering for quite some time now...<br />
<br /><br />OMG, imagine that! That would be hilarious! That also explains why they don't like Front over at .net :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol:<br />
<br /><br />Ahahaha! That's perfect.<br /><br />I had posted a while ago in the back/Front thread that Front didn't necessarily HAVE to be MJ because I had Jermaine in mind if he wasn't, lol. One thing for sure, Jermaine knows who Front is!<br />
<br /><br />Maybe - I'd agree with this. Jermaine is a good fit but what about the younger Jackson generation? I wonder if Anthony's tweet from 4/28 has any connection?<br /><br />
ANTHONY JACKSON @ATONCLASSIC<;br /><br />I bet there are trillions of Michael Jackson fans if you include the aliens receiving lil Mike live via American Bandstand. #TrillionsForMJ<br />Collapse
@ Scream<br /><br />No one knew it was going to be presented in the way it was presented during the trial. Front clearly said "bottles of Propofol on the wall" -- and sure enough, it was indeed on the wall presented in court the way Front said.
<br />Also hard to write off as coincidence is Front's song “99 bottles of propofol” posted the month before the trial started. I don't think anyone knew just how much propofol had been ordered before the trial, did they?<br />
<br /><br />Actually, that was known since the preliminary hearing in January 2011 (about 9 months before the trial) from Tim Lopez' testimony (a lot of things were testified about at the prelim, so a lot of things that were later mentioned during the trial had been in the news in January 2011 already):<br /><br />Michael Jackson Murder Trial UPDATE-Missing Witness Found In The Dr. Conrad Murray Case | Baby Boomer Advisor Club<br /><br />Pharmacist Tim Lopez testified at Murray’s preliminary hearing in January of 2011. He stated that he shipped more than 15 liters of the surgical anesthetic propofol, to the apartment of Murray’s girlfriend (he is married by the way) over the three months before Michael Jackson’s death.<br /><br />Does 15 liters seem like an awful lot of propofol to anyone else but me? Granted I am not a physician but…who was he treating an army platoon?<br /><br />P. S. It says January as well in the link that Sarahli quoted.<br />
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:icon_eek: :suspect:<br /><br />Thank you for this article! I'm still I'm wondering if they talk about 255 vials of 100 ml Propofol which is 25,5 liters, what happened to the other 10,5 liters (99 vials x 100 ml is almost 10 liters) Vanished to Thailand?? :suspect:<br /><br />Conrad Murray Trial -- Key Witness Has VANISHED | TMZ.com<br /><br />Conrad Murray Trial Key Witness Has VANISHED<br /><br />L.O.V.E.
<br />@ Scream<br /><br />No one knew it was going to be presented in the way it was presented during the trial. Front clearly said "bottles of Propofol on the wall" -- and sure enough, it was indeed on the wall presented in court the way Front said.<br />
<br /><br />I replied to "no one knew a month before the trial how much Murray had ordered".<br /><br /><br /><br />
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:icon_eek: :suspect:<br /><br />Thank you for this article! I'm still I'm wondering if they talk about 255 vials of 100 ml Propofol which is 25,5 liters, what happened to the other 10,5 liters (99 vials x 100 ml is almost 10 liters) Vanished to Thailand?? :suspect:<br /><br />Conrad Murray Trial -- Key Witness Has VANISHED | TMZ.com<br /><br />Conrad Murray Trial Key Witness Has VANISHED<br /><br />L.O.V.E.<br />
Dear JustDucky and Scream, Yes, this was already discussed in the other threads. I'm not sure what the relevance of the amount is here in Front's Clues thread though since no one said anything about the amount. There are some great conversations and posts in the Official back/Front thread as well if you would like to take a look, but let me warn you, there's a LOT of reading to do! LOL Here is the link: Official back & Front thread
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