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    <br />[size=10pt]A little teaser for you girls from the DVD. Dirty Diana  :michael_jackson-1135:  :icon_lol: !!!!![/size]<br /><br />tumblr_laor1kbOMU1qcsr0lo1_r3_500.gif<br />
    <br />emoticones-msn-amoureux-baiser-confus.gif<br />That's one of the hottest, most original and artistic stage moves ever ! coeur-neon-lumineux.gif<br />Mike using the mike as a double metaphor to symbolize , through a ballet-like dance move, 2 objects of his passion and LOVE: the music and the woman. it's short but so EXPRESSIVE! Just PURRRfect! GENIUS!<br /><br />And Dirty DIANA is a VERY fav of mine!! <br />Thanks for posting this @AppleHead ; :bearhug:<br /><br />
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  • curlscurls Posts: 3,111
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    <br />My copy arrived yesterday!<br /><br />EDIT: Watched the dvd last night - amazing energy!  I'd never seen MJ performing Bad before - pretty cool.<br /><br />(Enjoyment spoiled by someone in the room asking 'Where did it all go wrong?' and proceeding to talk about cosmetic surgery, drugs and being broke, then that person leaving the room, not wanting to share it with the crazy woman who casts doubt over these 'well known facts'.  :icon_e_sad: )  :icon_e_confused:  :icon_question: <br />
    <br /><br />[size=10pt]Curls what do you mean by that ? About what person are you talking about? It's about someone from the DVD or about someone in the room with you? Strange,cause I really don't understand what this Bad25 DVD has to do with cosmetic surgery,drugs,sudden death and his personal life,cause I thought it's about the personality not the person,lol  :icon_e_confused:  :animal0017: !!!![/size]<br />
    <br /><br />Oh Applehead, I'm sorry, I didn't explain that very well!  It was someone in the room with me who asked that question (watching the Bad Wembley concert, not Spike Lee's docu that I think you might've thought I was referring to).  But you're right, neither has anything to do with surgery, drugs etc but in this person's mind, anything related to MJ has to come back round to surgery, drugs etc.  And I am the 'crazy woman'??  I think not!<br /><br />P.S. I see by your sig vids that you've been studying the concert dvd! Great! I just love to see MJ dancing (albeit briefly) with women and I might just have to put Blood on the Dance Floor on again now!
  • RKRK Posts: 3,019
    <br />I would guess TMZ are reading here still. Just saw this on twitter and it made me think of FinFin's comment about no word from the family or TMZ regarding BAD25. For the record...doesn't seem like it was a 'bad' accident at all. They drove the car home after it.<br /><br />
      <br />Following<br /> <br />TMZVerified<br />‏@TMZ<;br />Whitney Houston's Daughter Bobbi Kristina Involved in BAD Car Accident http://tmz.me/PYuoVY <br /> Reply  Retweet  Favorite<br /> <br />Whitney Houston's Daughter Bobbi Kristina Involved in BAD Car Accident<br />Whitney Houston's daughter Bobbi Kristina was involved in a scary car accident in Georgia -- DESTROYING the entire front end of the vehicle -- and…<br /> TMZ @TMZ · Unfollow
  • MJonmindMJonmind Posts: 7,290
    Just noticed this.<br /><br />$(KGrHqNHJ!sE9vBPNuSMBPkFZfW0yQ~~60_35.JPG<br /><br />So L.L. Cool J. released “I’m Bad"  (Single) on June 13, 1987, and MJ released “Bad” (Single) on Sept 7, 1987.  <br />Wow, pretty interesting competition!<br /><br />
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  • @MJonmind.....the glory days of rap....great to start the morning with : ) <br />So, with lyrics like, "....crush you like a jelly bean...." and "....Oreos eat Cool J cookies....." <br />do you think Cool was hungry when they filmed this  :icon_lol: <br />dang  :icon_eek: I'm hungry now.........<br /><br />Thanks for the post MJonmind......too great.<br /><br />Blessings
  • MaryKMaryK Posts: 1,732
    Hello everyone. <br /><br />I was wondering if anyone could provide me with the lyrics to "Free".<br /><br />I am really trying hard to figure out some parts of the lyrics but Michael is mumbling too often  :'(<br /><br />Sorry Michael, but it´s true.  :icon_lol: <br /><br />So I´d appreciate any help from you guys. <br /><br /> :bearhug:
  • flory24flory24 Posts: 129
    I can't make out all of the lyrics but this is what I have so far: <br /><br />Anybody feel free to add or correct what I posted below<br /><br /><br />Verse 1: You're the one that I adore (ya) (Kiss me once?) and don't ignore me Tell me things, You often say I do. All the things I want to say and, Tell me things you (are for me or offer me?), and All the (lies ?) you have (to say?) I do. Ooh, ooh, ooh, babe. <br />Chorus 1: Yesterday is when I fell down and, You came to (my side to lift me off the ground?) and you often say that you love me and all the things I do. <br />Chorus 2: That's why I want to be Free, free like the wind blows, To fly away, just like a sparrow The feel, of letting my hair blow, To take my time wherever I go. I made mine? <br />Verse 2: You're the one, That I adore Just kiss me once, I won’t ignore ya. Feel the (vibe that, I have in?) mind. If you are the one for me, Just tell me twice and I will see the Heart and soul of all the things I feel. Ooh, ooh, ooh.<br />Chorus 1: Yesterday when I fell down, I start tryna make since of when I was around. You know life is just a thing you don’t- That’s the way I do.<br /> Chorus 2: Because I want to be Free, free like the wind blows, To fly away, just like a sparrow The feel, of letting my hair blow, To take my time wherever I go. I want to be Free, free like the wind blows, To fly away, just like a sparrow The feel, of letting my hair blow, To take my time wherever I go. I (made mine?) Babe. Alright. Uh, huh. <br />Alright. <br />Chorus 1: Uh uh oh yeah, yeah. Yesterday is when I fell down, I start tryna make since of when I was around. You start tryna to make a way to see What's this thing I do. <br />Chorus 2: Be my dream cause I want to be Free, free like the wind blows, To fly away, just like a sparrow The feel, of letting my hair blow, To take my time wherever I go.  <br />Bridge: I want to be Free, free like the wind babe, Where ever I go I take my time baby Take my time where ever I go. I want to be free, Free like the wind All in my mind Whhoooaaa, Whooaaaa baby To be free I want to free I want to be me, huh, huh Ohhh oh baby Where ever I go Ooh! Got to be free-eeee *laughter* Speaks: Rodney, you are so silly. <br />
  • curlscurls Posts: 3,111
    Love, love, loving 'Price of Fame'!  Can't get enough of its totally amazing rhythm and what about when MJ sings 'my father never lies'?  I tried to copy it and sounded like a horse neighing!!  :icon_lol: Anyone recognise the bit I mean?
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    <br />I just LOVE this guy!<br /><br />
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    <br /><br /><br />[size=12pt]I absolutely can't stand this guy! I used to follow him on twitter, but he is just so outrageously incorrect with his assumptions.<br /><br />It's a shame really. This Aussie boy has so much passion and love for MJ but as he is a non believer it means his interpretation of MJ, the estate, his music is just a 'bit off' and 'misguided'<br /><br />It comes through in this interview when he speaks of the estate an VHS quality, but most of all I am talking about his rants on twitter as well as his YT channel. <br /><br />From my past observations, he is quite informative and knows a lot about about MJ, but his interpretation is off. As mentioned, I used to follow (too strong of a word) him, but I gave him the flick, about the time TMZ was going off, because the young Aussie got into mud slinging at the estate and slight MJ family bashing that I didn't feel comfortable with. With him being a non believer his understanding of the estate is somewhat primitive.<br /><br /><br /><br />[/size]
  • SimPattyKSimPattyK Posts: 4,281
    I love the guy anyway.<br />He is so passionate about "MJ-the artist" and he defends his image better than many would/could do it.<br />Whether there is a death hoax or not, MJ needs more fans like this!  :icon_e_wink:<br />He has verve and style.<br />He's a good guy and so innocent in his lack of deeper knowledge about what really is going on...<br />I don't know/care what he says on twitter, I like his video anyway.
  • Oh' he has amazing passion abt MJ, as displayed in this vid. Don't get me wrong I admire that.<br /><br />It's his YT and Twitter that put me off. The great thing is he has one hella good surprise coming up for him! BAM!<br /><br />I sometimes imagine the non believer fans and what it will be like for them. Not like us, we are expecting it.<br /><br />It will knock our socks off still, I am sure. But imagine the people who aren't expecting it? The shock will be unmeasurable!
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    <br />Love, love, loving 'Price of Fame'!  Can't get enough of its totally amazing rhythm and what about when MJ sings 'my father never lies'?  I tried to copy it and sounded like a horse neighing!!  :icon_lol: Anyone recognise the bit I mean?<br />
    <br /><br />I love Price of Fame too Curls, I am listening to it right now and Michael's voice sounds very deep very adult (different from the Bad oldest songs' voice)  what brings me to the theory said by some of you that some of the songs included in Bad 25 are very recent.<br />I know this has been posted but take a look again to its lyrics:<br />//"I want a face no one can recognize, in disguise"<br />"I’d like to take some time and get away, then they’ll say" <br />"Is that boy still alive?"//<br /><br />Is this hoax that getaway Michael is talking about in this song? I think so.
  • diggyondiggyon Posts: 1,376
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    <br />Love, love, loving 'Price of Fame'!  Can't get enough of its totally amazing rhythm and what about when MJ sings 'my father never lies'?  I tried to copy it and sounded like a horse neighing!!  :icon_lol: Anyone recognise the bit I mean?<br />
    <br /><br />I love Price of Fame too Curls, I am listening to it right now and Michael's voice sounds very deep very adult (different from the Bad oldest songs' voice)  what brings me to the theory said by some of you that some of the songs included in Bad 25 are very recent.<br />I know this has been posted but take a look again to its lyrics:<br />//"I want a face no one can recognize, in disguise"<br />"I’d like to take some time and get away, then they’ll say" <br />"Is that boy still alive?"//<br /><br />Is this hoax that getaway Michael is talking about in this song? I think so.<br />
    <br /><br />I thought Michael won't perform after the Bam, but it seems that he will, but from behind the curtain!
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    <br />Love, love, loving 'Price of Fame'!  Can't get enough of its totally amazing rhythm and what about when MJ sings 'my father never lies'?  I tried to copy it and sounded like a horse neighing!!  :icon_lol: Anyone recognise the bit I mean?<br />
    <br /><br />I love Price of Fame too Curls, I am listening to it right now and Michael's voice sounds very deep very adult (different from the Bad oldest songs' voice)  what brings me to the theory said by some of you that some of the songs included in Bad 25 are very recent.<br />I know this has been posted but take a look again to its lyrics:<br />//"I want a face no one can recognize, in disguise"<br />"I’d like to take some time and get away, then they’ll say" <br />"Is that boy still alive?"//<br /><br />Is this hoax that getaway Michael is talking about in this song? I think so.<br />
    <br /><br />I thought Michael won't perform after the Bam, but it seems that he will, but from behind the curtain!<br />
    <br /><br />I think Michael won't stop writing and making music not only for him but for others performers too including Omer Bhatti but perform on stage is a different story I think if he BAMS he will only perform in special occasions like Music Awards and things like that apart from filming that will be one of his passions.<br /><br />ps: It seems I am able to predict his future :LolLolLolLol:
  • My gut tells me he won't perform again and that he'll be directing things behind camera / behind scenes musically and film<br /><br />I think still he'll still new music as we know he has 100s of recordings that can be put together to create albums.<br /><br />This is mere speculation I course have no idea what MJ will do.
  • becbec Posts: 6,387
    MJ is currently performing so no, he is not done. The hoax isn't over so MJ is not done performing, just by definition.
  • Bec, do you think you will see him perform on stage again? Not in disguise, not a cameo, as traditional KOP MJ?<br /><br />Don't get me wrong, I absolutely hope to God that I am incorrect!
  • becbec Posts: 6,387
    I don't know but I think it is irrelevant. The hoax is the performance. Whether he has a song n dance act planned for the end of it seems inconsequential to me. His career as showman encompasses so much more then just song n dance. It's like worrying whether he will ever perform Billy Jean again.
  • ellydellyd Posts: 220
    Yes. <br />One reason why we try to understand the whole man, not only KoP.<br />KoP is such a tiny and insignificant facet on lightman.<br />MJ's art is so much more powerfully eloquent than being on-stage spot on swinging his own hips.<br />He's swinging the world now.
  • becbec Posts: 6,387
    You know, on a side note, regarding the new songs on Bad25, has anyone else noticed that the lyrics seem to be nonsense strings of words designed to showcase the relevant hoaxy lyrics? I can't make out many of the lyrics in these 6 new songs but the few I can decipher do not form complete thoughts or sentences. The words that are clear beyond the song titles are those which are hoaxy.<br /><br />Al Capone is probably the best example of this.<br /><br />"why did you let him get away"<br /><br />"no one told her, no one ever showed her"<br /><br />"no one should be grieving this way"<br /><br />The rest seems to be either nonsense strings of words or unintelligible. <br /><br />Price of Fame, the lyrics are incomplete thoughts or parts of a story line which don't connect to each other and then suddenly you have these super-dooper hoaxy phrases buried in the middle.<br /><br />The other songs are similar, to my ears so far anyway. Anyone else?
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    <br />Love, love, loving 'Price of Fame'!  Can't get enough of its totally amazing rhythm and what about when MJ sings 'my father never lies'?  I tried to copy it and sounded like a horse neighing!!  :icon_lol: Anyone recognise the bit I mean?<br />
    <br /><br />I love Price of Fame too Curls, I am listening to it right now and Michael's voice sounds very deep very adult (different from the Bad oldest songs' voice)  what brings me to the theory said by some of you that some of the songs included in Bad 25 are very recent.<br />I know this has been posted but take a look again to its lyrics:<br />//"I want a face no one can recognize, in disguise"<br />"I’d like to take some time and get away, then they’ll say" <br />"Is that boy still alive?"//<br /><br />Is this hoax that getaway Michael is talking about in this song? I think so.<br />
    <br /><br />I thought Michael won't perform after the Bam, but it seems that he will, but from behind the curtain!<br />
    <br /><br />I think Michael won't stop writing and making music not only for him but for others performers too including Omer Bhatti but perform on stage is a different story I think if he BAMS he will only perform in special occasions like Music Awards and things like that apart from filming that will be one of his passions.<br /><br />ps: It seems I am able to predict his future :LolLolLolLol:<br />
    <br /><br />Lucky you!  :LolLolLolLol: I don't even give it a try because all I can see is a total black out!  :LolLolLolLol:
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    <br />You know, on a side note, regarding the new songs on Bad25, has anyone else noticed that the lyrics seem to be nonsense strings of words designed to showcase the relevant hoaxy lyrics? I can't make out many of the lyrics in these 6 new songs but the few I can decipher do not form complete thoughts or sentences. The words that are clear beyond the song titles are those which are hoaxy.<br /><br />Al Capone is probably the best example of this.<br /><br />"why did you let him get away"<br /><br />"no one told her, no one ever showed her"<br /><br />"no one should be grieving this way"<br /><br />The rest seems to be either nonsense strings of words or unintelligible. <br /><br />Price of Fame, the lyrics are incomplete thoughts or parts of a story line which don't connect to each other and then suddenly you have these super-dooper hoaxy phrases buried in the middle.<br /><br />The other songs are similar, to my ears so far anyway. Anyone else?<br />
    <br /><br /><br />Get what you are saying. Was listening to it again in the car on the way to work and found myself saying, "Is he speaking mumbo jumbo on purpose?" As I wasn't behind a computer, I was struggling to work out what the lyrics were and was busting to get to a computer to figure out some lyrics. Also in two of the songs, not only mumbo jumbo but almost like deliberate mumbling. As if intentional to let hoaxy words / phrases stand out."<br /><br /><br /><br />While I am posting about songs / bad 25, I may as well add some thoughts about some of the songs. Would love to hear some thoughts from you guys. I mean we all hear different things when we listen to something. This is what I hear. Would love some other comments too. <br /><br /><br />Don't be Messin' Round<br />Reminds me of Rock my world, with the piano. The backing track or beats in the background remind me of Front snippets. JMO, but to me the vocals sound like they were recently recorded. And the music does not have an 80's bad era feel. Two things I love: First, the "Dont stop til you get enough - feeling with the outro as the song finishes, as its cute. I'm referring to the music and the "da daw da, da da dow's" Secondly and most of all I LOVE the hoaxy lyrics in the first verse  :icon_mrgreen: Not only is MJ alive, but he's making music for us!!<br /><br /><br />I'm so Blue<br />Frikken beautiful song! In this song I personally have trouble distinguishing if the vocals sound like a young or a mature MJ. But one thing for sure is the music itself wasn't orchestrated in the 80's. It has a catchy, modern easy listening vibe to it. I like the way the Stevie Wonder-esque (and perhaps it was him himself) harmonica is worked into the track. It makes me wonder if MJ put this in to guise the fact its such a modern sounding song that doesn't sound like bad era at all, but at least the Harmonica, gives it that Stevie touch that was popular at the time of bad. (Just good friends & That's what friends are for, etc) Or perhaps no guise is intended, perhaps MJ just loves the sound and wants to reference a song (the duet with Stevie) from the original album... All in all, the song is incredibly modern. <br /><br /><br />Song Groove - To me this is an obvious older track (speaking of the music only here) the music is reminiscent of the 80s and of bad era. But perhaps remixed / remastered. The violin part at 3:06 sounds like a modern addition or edit to the track. Moving to the vocals, to me, and again JMO as this is what I hear, I hear a mature MJ singing here. His voice sounds more crunchy and worn, (not a bad thing, having trouble describing what I mean) but the way he crunches his voice, reminds me of mature MJ. <br /><br />Side note: WITHOUT raising a pro life / choice debate, I have to say I don't get people all over the place (incl fans on MJJC) jumping up and down about MJ singing a song about Abortion, saying "He shouldn't have gone there, its a women's issue" I think the moral of the story is that it is in fact the priests daughter, so it raises hypocrisy issues. Also everyone has the right to an opinion regardless of gender. I also wonder if MJ feels more comfortable releasing such controversial subject matter because he now is a parent? Either way, I applaud MJ for 'going there' and really, this song is no different than many of his other tracks, some incredibly popular that address controversial subjects. The prolife / choice debate was current in the 80's and still is today.  :smiley_abuv:<br /><br /><br />Free - LOL at the deliberate mumbling. Hilarious. Music style is modern. Can't work out if the vocals are from a young or an older MJ. However the subject itself reminds me of the hoax and the freedom / quiet MJ is enjoying this side of Bam, so I'm thinking it was written and sang more recently. I think the ha ha Rodney you are so silly, was recorded when he was younger and added in at the end.<br /><br /><br />Price of Fame - Great song! To me the music sounds circa 80's. Heavy synthesizer, etc. But the vocals sound like a mature MJ and of course his reference to people wondering if he is dead only confirms it was written post hoax.  Yep, he's alive and kicking and making music for us!! :icon_mrgreen: :icon_mrgreen: :icon_mrgreen:  Does anyone have comments on this particular lyric “Just sign your name on the dotted line, you’ll be fine” – that always bothers me...<br /><br /><br />Al Capone - I hear 80's, heavily synthesized, BAD reminiscent music. In fact really reminds me of Smooth Criminal in both the verses and the chorus. I almost think of this song as Smooth Criminal - Part two. However even though this songs sounds SOOOOOO 80's to me this is both a recently written and recently recorded song. Lots of voice crunching. Mumbling. And YES BEC, lots of mumbo jumbo in between his hoax messages. Have to say the line "No one should be grieving this way" makes me smile ear to ear, regardless if I can't undertsand half of the song, LOL! I wonder if its deliberate. Bottom line, I LOVE this track! Thanks MJ xx<br /><br />Anyone know what MJ is referring to when he says something about "Cold as ice" ?? Any thoughts there?<br /><br />Also the line "How could you let him get away" is great... I think of people who know MJ hoaxed his death. (not in on the hoax, but have worked it out) perhaps some of his enemies. They are thinking "How did he get away!?!"<br /><br />Love Streetwalker and Fly Away obviously not new. I LOVE the remixes of all of the songs. <br /><br />I love the 4 year reference in one of the bad remixes. Wouldn't mind knowing what that Latin is all about? Anyone know the lyrics / translation?<br /><br />Anyhooo, that is what I hear so far. I have only listened to the album 5 times. So I am sure I will hear more as I listen to it over and over. Again, we all hear different things, so would love perspective of others. I could be completely wrong on my take of it.<br /><br /><br />and of course, I just have to add...<br /><br />[size=14pt]<br />MJ if you are reading - THANK YOU FOR SUCH A BEAUTIFUL GIFT!!!  :bearhug: Definitely helping some of us here get through rough patches this side of Bam! YOU are a music genius and we are blessed to have your music for so many generations XXX<br />[/size]
  • becbec Posts: 6,387
    I've had these 8 songs on repeat in the truck since I got the album, great fun, great music.<br /><br />The repeated references to "cold as ice", I dunno for sure but I can't help but be reminded of the fans who profess to love MJ so much and yet state things like "if he faked his death I would lose respect for him", "if this hoax is all an ARG I would lose respect for him" etc, especially when they are accompanied by "wanting me to be your friend", remind me of exchanges with Front. Lines such as "she swore she'd love me for a lifetime/she left me for another man" remind me of his fans who think he's the emaciated dead drug addict.<br /><br />But I may be misinterpreting/seeing connections where there aren't any. Just first hoaxy impressions.
  • Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I've had these thoughts running through my mind as well. IS Michael mumbling on purpose or did the Estate release demo songs that were truly unfinished? I say that because of what we've been hearing about the songs not being complete. But taken into consideration all of the odd things, like the Paris references, etc., I'd say they must have been intentional. I'm confused but thankful to have these songs.<br /><br />I love those songs noted above too - Blue makes my heart melt. Al Capone is sexy. Don't know why but I also love it when he crunches (I like that term) his voice. Price of Fame makes me think hoax and his life in general. Some of the songs, as I mentioned also before, feel more recent. I'm glad that I'm not the only one who feels this way.<br /><br />I'm also excited that the Concert DVD has gone #1. It's past time for Michael to reap the rewards of his lifetime of labor.<br /><br />Blessings to you.
  • curlscurls Posts: 3,111
    To tell the truth, I'm just listening and getting to know these songs as they are, in the moment, without my hoax hat on - and trying to make out the lyrics!<br /><br />MJ's song words have often been difficult to hear clearly, maybe because he wants them to blend in as another layer of the music, rather than standing out on their own.<br /><br />Oh, and much to my surprise I kind of like the Speed Demon remix. I don't normally like re-mixes of classics (why mess about if you can't make it better?!) and I have to say I'm not keen on the Bad remixes, but for some reason I'm finding SD is catchy!
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