<br />Oh, so that's why Murray left that pathetic voicemail, just so Nicole could pay her rent, otherwise she wouldn't be able to. It is all for money after everything is said and done. This is the new way to make money, and it started after 6/25/2009, anyone who has no scruples, no ethics, no life of their own, can't make money by working hard at a decent job like the rest of the world, all they have to do is mention the name MICHAEL JACKSON, and voila, they are millionaires!!!!!!<br />But as they say "easy come, easy go" and all that......<br />
<br /><br /><br />The call is fictitious. Murray isn't in a cell let alone in cuffs.<br />It's part of the hoax. Lateral thinking will ask 'who feeds tmz'<br /><br />This has Michaels name all over it. Just like all of the other news scoops!<br /><br />(Of course tmz embellish too. They wouldn't be a tabloid if they didn't :icon_e_wink: )<br />
<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />I also think that Murray is not in a prison the history is false, if Nicole Alvarez does not find a job as an actress so she does not work :fresse:
Just copied a post from the other thread as I meant to post it here.<br /><br /><br />Sounds like MJ speaking here : 'And I think I have the right to complain if I'm in pain'<br /><br />This hoax is lodging one giant complaint against the evils. Music biz, press, false accusers etc. JMO<br /><br />I also like Jacksons' Conrads use of the word 'Suboptimal'<br /><br />suboptimal (not comparable) ... A suboptimal solution to a problem is often more useful than an optimal ... <br /><br />This hoax is suboptimal, sure at times it's hurtful, frustrating, deceitful and not optimal, but its useful! Serves purpose! We must hang in there. When its difficult need to remember the grand picture of vindication <br /><br /><br />Conrad: - I have liberties that’s civil, I can speak<br /><br />Exactly Michael! And he speaks through this hoax and will continue to post hoax. Wrongs righted!<br /><br /><br />And if you don't mind, I'd say a little Front comment here: I have requested by now cuffing me in front rather than behind<br /><br />Oh' don't worry Front. We feel cuffed here. It's difficult at times but there is no escape. The lure of the hoax lol<br /><br />The transcript has Michael's name all over it http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2267258/Conrad-Murray-Disgraced-Michael-Jackson-doctor-sobs-desperate-plea-medical-care.html#ixzz2IqEPr56w
umm can someone tell when michael made the accusations against the police about what happened to him during his time there, do i remember hearing that they in a sense told him to put up or shut up?
<br />umm can someone tell when michael made the accusations against the police about what happened to him during his time there, do i remember hearing that they in a sense told him to put up or shut up?<br />
I'm thinking the LAPD had to have been ordered by Sneddon and higher authorities to publicly humiliate and physically torment Michael as much as possible while they had him in their possession. I simply can't see regular police doing that to such a huge well-known celebrity, without special orders. 70 police to ransack and rip up his bedroom and Neverland, force his handcuffed hands high behind his back when MJ willingly went with the police and complied in every way, and locking him up in a bathroom smeared with feces (poor guy who had to clean that :icon_e_sad:). And at that point all it was was allegations only, with no proof he was guilty. Sneddon and many higher officials should be charged with crimes, and hopefully will soon.<br /><br />Aussie<br />
Sounds like MJ speaking here : 'And I think I have the right to complain if I'm in pain'
<br />This reminds me of "pain(s)" in the song 'Will you be there?'<br />
In Our Darkest Hour<br />In My Deepest Despair<br />Will You Still Care?<br />Will You Be There?<br />In My Trials<br />And My Tribulations<br />Through Our Doubts<br />And Frustrations<br />In My Violence<br />In My Turbulence<br />Through My Fear<br />And My Confessions<br />In My Anguish And [size=12pt]My Pain(s)[/size]<br />Through My Joy And My Sorrow<br />In The Promise Of Another Tomorrow<br />I'll Never Let You Part<br />For You're Always In My Heart.
<br /><br />These are all CM's use of 'pain'.<br />
My right shoulder pain has been so bad<br />I can’t sleep now, it’s very hard and I’m in constant pain.<br />I don't understand for eight months I’ve been in this pain but more and more loss of my limbs. <br />I've been using the Motrin they've given me but it doesn’t take the pain away.<br />And I think I have the right to complain if I'm in pain.
<br />I'm thinking the LAPD had to have been ordered by Sneddon and higher authorities to publicly humiliate and physically torment Michael as much as possible while they had him in their possession. I simply can't see regular police doing that to such a huge well-known celebrity, without special orders. 70 police to ransack and rip up his bedroom and Neverland, force his handcuffed hands high behind his back when MJ willingly went with the police and complied in every way, and locking him up in a bathroom smeared with feces (poor guy who had to clean that :icon_e_sad:). And at that point all it was was allegations only, with no proof he was guilty. Sneddon and many higher officials should be charged with crimes, and hopefully will soon.<br /><br />
<br /><br />You are absolutely right. My guess is that it's more likely a celebrity would be treated with kid gloves or that the story might be shoved under the carpet. It's even harder to imagine his treatment inside, for many reasons, not the least of which would be the threat of a huge lawsuit. One can only conclude that Michael had some powerful enemies and I can't help but think Sneddon was merely the messenger and the orders came from someone with far more political clout than a local District Attorney. Somewhere along the line there was a video demonstrating a connection between Sneddon and the Vatican and the implication that Michael's child molestation charges were a means of taking attention away from the Vatican's many scandals. In that same video, Santa Barbara county was identified as a safe haven for priests under investigation for child molestation.
So could it be that George W.Bush and the NWO illuminats Assholes could behind the accussing child molestating Trial(s) in the early new millenium. Because the failed to Kill Michael in the 9/11 inside job scam where he should die in one of the towers, so the tried it again to destroy him and helped Sneddon to make it but thanks for MJ US and FOR JUSTICE at least (even that it shouldn´t even came that far but less). :omg: :WTF: :judge-smiley:<br /><br />Nevermind real Justice will hopefully came through thick and thin soon This is It for the long waiting Michael we wait hope and ready to give boots to asses and knees to faces.<br /><br />So like the crap with Murray i even also don´t believe i hadn´t heard the voice mail but what i read and witnessed in the trial don´t believe he was is only real one day in jail since then and if so don´t be a p... like that if MJ would be really dead he should rod in hell ähm jail and not coming out at end of this year but otherwise if mj really is in disguise as conrad that would be different because we wont mj came that late out to prevail the truth or did we :icon_e_wink: :icon_e_surprised: :WTF: :icon_e_smile:
<br />So could it be that George W.Bush and the NWO illuminats Assholes could behind the accussing child molestating Trial(s) in the early new millenium. Because the failed to Kill Michael in the 9/11 inside job scam where he should die in one of the towers, so the tried it again to destroy him and helped Sneddon to make it but thanks for MJ US and FOR JUSTICE at least (even that it shouldn´t even came that far but less). :omg: :WTF: :judge-smiley:<br /><br />Nevermind real Justice will hopefully came through thick and thin soon This is It for the long waiting Michael we wait hope and ready to give boots to asses and knees to faces.<br /><br />...<br />
<br /><br /><br />I do think TPTB were behind the allegations and trial against Michael and that Sneddon was paid by them for his part in it. The reason I think this is because TPTB's credo is control through fear and Michael's message is love for everyone - so in direct opposition to TPTB's way of doing things. Michael, just prior to the time of the '93 allegations, had the love of the masses, something TPTB could never have and they would've resented him for that and realized the power of Michael's influence. So yes, maybe since they weren't able to "get him" during the 9/11 attacks (assuming La Toya and Jermaine's account of this is true), TPTB's next move was to have Michael accused, again. Michael prevailed during that trial when he was found not guilty but he would've known the battle of good vs evil wasn't done yet.
<br />So could it be that George W.Bush and the NWO illuminats Assholes could behind the accussing child molestating Trial(s) in the early new millenium. Because the failed to Kill Michael in the 9/11 inside job scam where he should die in one of the towers, so the tried it again to destroy him and helped Sneddon to make it but thanks for MJ US and FOR JUSTICE at least (even that it shouldn´t even came that far but less). :omg: :WTF: :judge-smiley:<br /><br />Nevermind real Justice will hopefully came through thick and thin soon This is It for the long waiting Michael we wait hope and ready to give boots to asses and knees to faces.<br /><br />...<br />
<br /><br /><br />I do think TPTB were behind the allegations and trial against Michael and that Sneddon was paid by them for his part in it. The reason I think this is because TPTB's credo is control through fear and Michael's message is love for everyone - so in direct opposition to TPTB's way of doing things. Michael, just prior to the time of the '93 allegations, had the love of the masses, something TPTB could never have and they would've resented him for that and realized the power of Michael's influence. So yes, maybe since they weren't able to "get him" during the 9/11 attacks (assuming La Toya and Jermaine's account of this is true), TPTB's next move was to have Michael accused, again. Michael prevailed during that trial when he was found not guilty but he would've known the battle of good vs evil wasn't done yet.<br />
<br /><br />I think you both are right but I would add this: as Andrea says the masses loved Michael due to the love he was spreading all over but Michael was always hinting evil's behaviours too through his lyrics, right now the song MJ dedicated to Elizabeth Taylor is coming to my mind:<br /><br />Welcome to Hollywood<br />That's what they told you<br />A child star in Hollywood<br />That's what they sold you<br />Grace with beauty, charme and talent<br />You would do what you were told<br />But they robbed you of childhood<br />Took your youth and sold it for gold.<br /><br />It's like Michael is hinting with his songs that somebody is taking advantage of them (Hollywood stars) whom they (TPTB) squeezes and get so much benefit no matter the prize these stars has to pay, as: no private life, long work sessions with the consequent insomnia, always subjected to the media scrutiny and so on...
<br />So could it be that George W.Bush and the NWO illuminats Assholes could behind the accussing child molestating Trial(s) in the early new millenium. Because the failed to Kill Michael in the 9/11 inside job scam where he should die in one of the towers, so the tried it again to destroy him and helped Sneddon to make it but thanks for MJ US and FOR JUSTICE at least (even that it shouldn´t even came that far but less). :omg: :WTF: :judge-smiley:<br /><br />Nevermind real Justice will hopefully came through thick and thin soon This is It for the long waiting Michael we wait hope and ready to give boots to asses and knees to faces.<br /><br />...<br />
<br /><br /><br />I do think TPTB were behind the allegations and trial against Michael and that Sneddon was paid by them for his part in it. The reason I think this is because TPTB's credo is control through fear and Michael's message is love for everyone - so in direct opposition to TPTB's way of doing things. Michael, just prior to the time of the '93 allegations, had the love of the masses, something TPTB could never have and they would've resented him for that and realized the power of Michael's influence. So yes, maybe since they weren't able to "get him" during the 9/11 attacks (assuming La Toya and Jermaine's account of this is true), TPTB's next move was to have Michael accused, again. Michael prevailed during that trial when he was found not guilty but he would've known the battle of good vs evil wasn't done yet.<br />
<br /><br />I think you both are right but I would add this: as Andrea says the masses loved Michael due to the love he was spreading all over but Michael was always hinting evil's behaviour too through his lyrics, right now the song MJ dedicated to Elizabeth Taylor is coming to my mind:<br /><br />Welcome to Hollywood<br />That's what they told you<br />A child star in Hollywood<br />That's what they sold you<br />Grace with beauty, charme and talent<br />You would do what you were told<br />But they robbed you of childhood<br />Took your youth and sold it for gold.<br /><br />It's like Michael is hinting with his songs that somebody is taking advantage of them (Hollywood stars) whom they (TPTB) squeezes and get so much benefit no matter the prize these stars has to pay, as: no private life, long work sessions with the consequent insomnia, always subjected to the media scrutiny and so on...<br />
<br /><br /><br />Yes and Corey Feldman said the biggest secret in Hollywood is pedophilia, that it happens all the time and when he (Corey) was younger, he was surrounded by those monsters. Michael loves children more than anything and it's been suggested before that perhaps Michael was going to expose these vile predators but they turned it around on him and tried to make the world think that Michael was the monster when it's they who are the evil ones.
<br />So could it be that George W.Bush and the NWO illuminats Assholes could behind the accussing child molestating Trial(s) in the early new millenium. Because the failed to Kill Michael in the 9/11 inside job scam where he should die in one of the towers, so the tried it again to destroy him and helped Sneddon to make it but thanks for MJ US and FOR JUSTICE at least (even that it shouldn´t even came that far but less). :omg: :WTF: :judge-smiley:<br /><br />Nevermind real Justice will hopefully came through thick and thin soon This is It for the long waiting Michael we wait hope and ready to give boots to asses and knees to faces.<br /><br />...<br />
<br /><br /><br />I do think TPTB were behind the allegations and trial against Michael and that Sneddon was paid by them for his part in it. The reason I think this is because TPTB's credo is control through fear and Michael's message is love for everyone - so in direct opposition to TPTB's way of doing things. Michael, just prior to the time of the '93 allegations, had the love of the masses, something TPTB could never have and they would've resented him for that and realized the power of Michael's influence. So yes, maybe since they weren't able to "get him" during the 9/11 attacks (assuming La Toya and Jermaine's account of this is true), TPTB's next move was to have Michael accused, again. Michael prevailed during that trial when he was found not guilty but he would've known the battle of good vs evil wasn't done yet.<br />
<br /><br />I think you both are right but I would add this: as Andrea says the masses loved Michael due to the love he was spreading all over but Michael was always hinting evil's behaviour too through his lyrics, right now the song MJ dedicated to Elizabeth Taylor is coming to my mind:<br /><br />Welcome to Hollywood<br />That's what they told you<br />A child star in Hollywood<br />That's what they sold you<br />Grace with beauty, charme and talent<br />You would do what you were told<br />But they robbed you of childhood<br />Took your youth and sold it for gold.<br /><br />It's like Michael is hinting with his songs that somebody is taking advantage of them (Hollywood stars) whom they (TPTB) squeezes and get so much benefit no matter the prize these stars has to pay, as: no private life, long work sessions with the consequent insomnia, always subjected to the media scrutiny and so on...<br />
<br /><br /><br />Yes and Corey Feldman said the biggest secret in Hollywood is pedophilia, that it happens all the time and when he (Corey) was younger, he was surrounded by those monsters. Michael loves children more than anything and it's been suggested before that perhaps Michael was going to expose these vile predators but they turned it around on him and tried to make the world think that Michael was the monster when it's they who are the evil ones.<br />
<br /><br />OMG that makes so much sense to me :icon_e_confused:
<br /><br /><br />Yes and Corey Feldman said the biggest secret in Hollywood is pedophilia, that it happens all the time and when he (Corey) was younger, he was surrounded by those monsters. Michael loves children more than anything and it's been suggested before that perhaps Michael was going to expose these vile predators but they turned it around on him and tried to make the world think that Michael was the monster when it's they who are the evil ones.<br />
<br /><br />This reminds me of the John Travolta story recently where a couple of male massage therapists sued him for sexual harassment and it was published somewhere that Travolta revealed to one of them that that's how to get ahead in Hollywood. As I recall he said, he had done things that would make most people throw up. But after the first million you get used to it. I believe the lawsuits were dropped but the stories hit their mark.<br /><br />There's this one as in which Travolta allegedly said: <br /><br />
The most troubling nugget in Doe's account claims that Travolta went on a rant that "Hollywood is controlled by homosexual Jewish men who expect favors in return for sexual activity" and that his habit of making such trades began in his "Welcome Back Kotter" days.
I am so sorry Michael for what they put you through. I too believe that Sneddon was all up in those allegations against Michael. It seemed to be his life goal to rid the world of him. And I still think a lot of it had to do with Sneddon’s inability to accept that a black man with such meager beginnings deserved all the accolades and love and possessions that Michael had amassed in his lifetime. Sneddon so wanted those children taken from Michael & Miichael locked up for the rest of his life that he was vividly salivating at the mouth during the 2005 trial. He is an evil, malicious, envious snake. :ghsdf: :Crash: And I do wish harm upon him. Sorry guys. I know that’s hash but no harsher than when he wanted for Michael.
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