OK something has to happen if even the ones who made hoax videos are saying now they don't believe Michael is alive.
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Michael do you really want us to quit ? To leave you alone?
I don't think he wants us to quit. The bam, whenever it may happen, is supposed to be a surprise for everybody, including believers, right? It can't possibly come as a shock to us if we expect it.
Yes I know what you mean, I hope this is the case but it could only be speculation. @Michael: I promise I'll be SHOCKED anyway <!-- sbearhug -->bearhug<!-- sbearhug -->
you need very good reasons and explanations to jump
out of any wood - and its getting harder to find some valid reasons
except money with each passing month.
have you ever tried to talk with a non mj fan?
the normal audience out there what will they say. will
they be able to understand more than 2 years of hiding?
or is it money what they will have in mind?
the death generated a good income for whom?
so yes - the amount of believers is falling.
at the end of the day who will remain?
you need very good reasons and explanations to jump
out of any wood - and its getting harder to find some valid reasons
except money with each passing month.
[highlight=#bf80ff:zv4rip2t]have you ever tried to talk with a non mj fan?
the normal audience out there what will they say. will
they be able to understand more than 2 years of hiding?[/highlight:zv4rip2t]
or is it money what they will have in mind?
the death generated a good income for whom?
so yes - the amount of believers is falling.
at the end of the day who will remain?
i am not an mj fan (wasn't) talk to me.
err did you just say mj fans aren't normal <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
OK something has to happen if even the ones who made hoax videos are saying now they don't believe Michael is alive.
<!-- ssuspicious// -->suspicious//<!-- ssuspicious// -->
Michael do you really want us to quit ? To leave you alone?
I don't think he wants us to quit. The bam, whenever it may happen, is supposed to be a surprise for everybody, including believers, right? It can't possibly come as a shock to us if we expect it.
If don't focus or worry about whole bam thing and focus about hoax, then the bam can come as a shocker when ever that may be <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) --> i hate bam dates any ways, if there date someone says as special, i'd expect TMZ news for that day <!-- s --><!-- s -->
err did you just say mj fans aren't normal <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
to be honest, I never experienced the "MJ fan community" untill 2 years back and some of them are adorable good hearted people but others are the total opposite. One day I will post some "love messages" I received after June 25th 2009...some people can go really far for "the love OF Michael".
What is it with all those people who suddenly don't believe or just disappear? Jonell [glow=red:h7f56u4z]was[/glow:h7f56u4z] for me the first who really made me believe Michael is still alive. Her video's were so professioneel and convincing. Then she suddely disappeared, right after her supposed interview with Murray.We never heard from her how that conversation went.To me that was so suspicious. At that time I already thought she knew to much and was ordere to stop making hoax video's or her part of the hoax was done.In my opinion it must be something like that. Just like we now hear all the time Michael is dead. To me it seems they force us believers to stop believing in the hoax.Maybe it's some kind of test, see how strong we are in our believe? <!-- sconfused/ -->confused/<!-- sconfused/ --> It also could mean the hoax is ending and this is just the last phase we have to go through to make the BAM more impressive. <!-- smj_bad/ -->mj_bad/<!-- smj_bad/ --> Whatever the thought behind all this is, I believe it's something positive, though it may seem to be the opposite. <!-- spenguin/ -->penguin/<!-- spenguin/ -->
The curious thing is that almost all of us, if not all, googled "MJ fake death, MJ hoax death" or similar sentences when we heard the news back in 2009.
Many of us were not active fans or not even fans but still we gathered together somehow.
I for instance was very upset with the 1st hoax forum and how some members pushed the idea of MJ being alive behind an avatar chatting to people in the forum. I did not believe that MJ was dead but did not believe that he was in the forum either.
Even if we try/ tried to get some concensus and support each others "delusions" the truth is that we believed that MJ was alive on the 1st place because nothing made sense not because trolls pretended to be MJ.
It´s about faith, gut feeling, critical thinking...call it as you wish but the truth is that we talk here about things we don´t talk in daily life (I put myself as an example when talking about dreams etc) hoping to find someone "alike" to share opinions with.
People say "do not encourage others" and is true. The less people interested or sharing the same opinion the better to extinguish a concept or conversation.
In any case, those who changed their minds about MJ being alive, have the right to do so.
What is it with all those people who suddenly don't believe or just disappear? Jonell [glow=red:13nod0dv]was[/glow:13nod0dv] for me the first who really made me believe Michael is still alive. Her video's were so professioneel and convincing. Then she suddely disappeared, right after her supposed interview with Murray.We never heard from her how that conversation went.To me that was so suspicious. At that time I already thought she knew to much and was ordere to stop making hoax video's or her part of the hoax was done.In my opinion it must be something like that. Just like we now hear all the time Michael is dead. To me it seems they force us believers to stop believing in the hoax.Maybe it's some kind of test, see how strong we are in our believe? <!-- sconfused/ -->confused/<!-- sconfused/ --> It also could mean the hoax is ending and this is just the last phase we have to go through to make the BAM more impressive. <!-- smj_bad/ -->mj_bad/<!-- smj_bad/ --> Whatever the thought behind all this is, I believe it's something positive, though it may seem to be the opposite. <!-- spenguin/ -->penguin/<!-- spenguin/ -->
Glad you are still positive! I can only see confusion and chaos in this story hoax.
Sometimes I think if Michael is alive, he would allow this mess? Or as you say, then perhaps part of the game!
We have to wait and see, but I think most here will not wait for 20 years. <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
if their goal is make us believe MJ is death they are wrong. the more they insist the more my believe become strong. I do not know where he is, I do not know if he never come back but I am firmly convinced he is ALIVE and NO one could change my mind. I love you Mike be happy baby!!!
WOW look at what i missed! <!-- safraid/ -->afraid/<!-- safraid/ -->
This admin dude must be VERY SICK person, so many people trusted him! Well it's not really his fault though, people should not be so gullible, now they can't blame anyone, because no one forced them to follow this idiot.
But i still feel bad for them <!-- s:( -->:(<!-- s:( -->
And now i don't even know what must happen for me to believe that Michael is indeed dead. I thought he was dead before because i didn't really investigated it, i knew the main media story and that was it. But now that i know so much, what should happen for me to change my mind??? IDK
What is it with all those people who suddenly don't believe or just disappear? Jonell was for me the first who really made me believe Michael is still alive. Her video's were so professioneel and convincing. Then she suddely disappeared, right after her supposed interview with Murray.We never heard from her how that conversation went.To me that was so suspicious. At that time I already thought she knew to much and was ordere to stop making hoax video's or her part of the hoax was done.In my opinion it must be something like that. Just like we now hear all the time Michael is dead. To me it seems they force us believers to stop believing in the hoax.Maybe it's some kind of test, see how strong we are in our believe? It also could mean the hoax is ending and this is just the last phase we have to go through to make the BAM more impressive. Whatever the thought behind all this is, I believe it's something positive, though it may seem to be the opposite.
maybe I can be wrong but this makes me wonder who or who are or were behind Jonell?, that just does not stop publishing, actually did for a long time, why not wait to start the trial, all the evidence that Michael is still alive are that nothing has changed
Damn <!-- scrash/ -->crash/<!-- scrash/ --> <!-- scrash/ -->crash/<!-- scrash/ --> <!-- scrash/ -->crash/<!-- scrash/ -->
If he's dead I WANT TO KNOW!!
This uncertainty is killing me. <!-- scrash/ -->crash/<!-- scrash/ --> <!-- scrash/ -->crash/<!-- scrash/ --> <!-- scrash/ -->crash/<!-- scrash/ -->
<!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> But Gina ... we know since 25/06/2009. Do not you remember? <!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: -->
I don't get why we would be bothered by any website/hoaxer or whatever. If you think MJ is alive, it should be because you really think so, and you should not waver if anyone changes his mind, right?
That website made itself very unreliable weeks ago, who cares what it says? Or anyone else for that matter.
What is it with all those people who suddenly don't believe or just disappear? Jonell [glow=red:1ufkzjzc]was[/glow:1ufkzjzc] for me the first who really made me believe Michael is still alive. Her video's were so professioneel and convincing. [highlight=#bf80bf:1ufkzjzc]Then she suddely disappeared, right after her supposed interview with Murray.We never heard from her how that conversation went.To me that was so suspicious.[/highlight:1ufkzjzc] At that time I already thought she knew to much and was ordere to stop making hoax video's or her part of the hoax was done.In my opinion it must be something like that. Just like we now hear all the time Michael is dead. To me it seems they force us believers to stop believing in the hoax.Maybe it's some kind of test, see how strong we are in our believe? <!-- sconfused/ -->confused/<!-- sconfused/ --> It also could mean the hoax is ending and this is just the last phase we have to go through to make the BAM more impressive. <!-- smj_bad/ -->mj_bad/<!-- smj_bad/ --> Whatever the thought behind all this is, I believe it's something positive, though it may seem to be the opposite. <!-- spenguin/ -->penguin/<!-- spenguin/ -->
I am a FIRM BeLIEver in The GAME , and the whimsy of Michael Jackson!!!! We have had puppets, madmen, wacky women liars, bad guys, illegal drugs, organized criminals, clowns, elephants, magicians, trapeze artists, popcorn, extortionists, FBI, a ghost, zombies, trolls, (pea)NUTS, all manner of scary illnesses applied to MJ, doubles, twins, aliens, The End of the World, the NWO, crystal balls, monkeys, and jugglers(of theories, Hahaha! ), but NO pirate map with NO "X" on it.
It is about TIME
I said before, that the fact that the site was thrown up June 25 two years ago, proves insight, and foresight. Someone had a PLAN, WAY BACK THEN.
We just don't know:
if they are friend or foe,
if the site is still owned by the original owner,
if the plan is for fun or profit,
if it will lead us to the BAM, or some MJ juicy hoax secrets to facilitate the Reveal,
if it is another, genuine, MORE twisted rabbit tunnel ,
if it is a diversion, a misdirection, to see how gullible his fans are YET.
What we do know( albeit, speaking for only myself, right now)is:
there are no ads or money makers on the site,
there is alot of mystery ,
there is a marketing (or media) question asked of those signing up for membership [(loosely) why do you want to join a Michael Jackson Death Hoax community? ]
there is a map (which turns out to be a real map of a real place on earth)
and the latest development: someone who says he (& Admin) works for MJ, seems to have as one of his roles, THERE, to back up Admin, & keep order on the site.
Now...ALL we really need to do, at this point, is to do what we have already been TOLD by the Great Puppet Master: "KEEP WATCHIN'. Simple. Don't get your tails in a bunch of knots. Don't go there to fight with people or demand answers. Just get your Spyglass out, (like Suspicious Mind's avatar ) and Keep Watchin'...
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by AThousandTimes » Mon May 30, 2011 12:34 pm
michaeljacksonfakeddeath.com is a joke. I had a little faith in it not only because it was registred on June 25 2009 but also because the admin seemed to wait so long before he started to... let's call it communicate, with the beLIEvers. I wouldn't think someone would have that much patience.
Good posts!!
GINAFELICIA » Sun Jul 10, 2011 1:48 pm
The way this site ended, by saying Michael is dead and let him rest in peace, kind of reminds me of Jermaine adressing the hoax people, saying Michael is dead.
Not only Jermaine, but this reminds me of when Dave Dave got cryptic and then got all upset saying MJ was dead. Then the Jason Malachi site where he claimed to be hacked and had been recording music for the ‘Michael’ album hired by Sony.
Games, g ames, games!!!! I’m sure many more will give up on the hoax now, again… The numbers will dwindle even more. Hm… Survival of the fittest! MJ is pulling out all the stops! Yet Paris posts her interesting hoax-faith boosters! The lesson is we have to keep our heads and be strong. This ain't for no sissies. <!-- sbearhug -->bearhug<!-- sbearhug -->
Games, g ames, games!!!! I’m sure many more will give up on the hoax now, again… The numbers will dwindle even more. Hm… Survival of the fittest! MJ is pulling out all the stops! Yet Paris posts her interesting hoax-faith boosters! The lesson is we have to keep our heads and be strong. This ain't for no sissies. <!-- sbearhug -->bearhug<!-- sbearhug -->
<!-- slolol/ -->lolol/<!-- slolol/ --> Nice post as well MJonmind
! shit! fooled me, someone took a channel with a similar name and put the same picture of avatar and commented on the true channel Jonell.
This is the address of Jonell
JonellStarTV
(5 days ago)
I'm back!! How' is everyone? Thank you for your continued
support of the series! It would not have been what it is without you!
! joder ! <!-- serrrr -->errrr<!-- serrrr --> <!-- s --><!-- s -->
Could it be perhaps that after her interview or during it with Murray she was advised not to continue as she was putting Michael in jeopardy? Perhaps she was advised and obliged like the rest it seems, to sign a waiver to silence until this thing came to its climax. Maybe even compensated to do so, I don’t know. But it is indeed a bit strange or at least unusual that we never heard another word from her. I would rather believe this theory than that she learned that Michael was indeed dead. That news, I do believe, she would have come back to sadly advise us. <!-- sconfused/ -->confused/<!-- sconfused/ -->
Jonell´s channel Videos coming soon. I'm just here to provoke thought. Stop letting others think for you. Look beyond the surface....and please if you do not have a relationship with Jesus Christ, do not wait to late to try and seek him. His return is coming soon, the bible is fulfilling itself.
No weapon formed against me shall prosper <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
The intent of this series is to provide a great example of looking beyond the surface with everything.
This series isn't about worshipping the man, but embracing the message...
2 years ago she also wrote that she was a nurse/studyng to become one and that she had a revelation dream, MJ was not dead. In any case, she is a Christian and now believes that MJ is dead.
Feels like religious people have been cyber-knocking doors to convert others using MJ as the channel.
2 years ago she also wrote that she was a nurse/studyng to become one and that she had a revelation dream, MJ was not dead. In any case, she is a Christian and now believes that MJ is dead.
Feels like religious people have been cyber-knocking doors to convert others using MJ as the channel.
If I understand correctly someone (who apparently has too much time) created an account on Youtube with JonellStarTV photo and made a small change in spelling (i instead of l), and posted this particular comment. If you click on this one comment of allegedly JonellStarTV, you get the message that "This channel is not available".
So, it all seems that the real JonellStarTV did not say she was not a believer anymore. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
If I understand correctly someone (who apparently has too much time) created an account on Youtube with JonellStarTV photo and made a small change in spelling (i instead of l), and posted this particular comment. If you click on this one comment of allegedly JonellStarTV, you get the message that "This channel is not available".
So, it all seems that the real JonellStarTV did not say she was not a believer anymore. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
You're right Forst. Real Jonell never wrote that she was no longer a believer. It's just some non-believers trying to confuse us and make us lose hope.
Comments
Yes I know what you mean, I hope this is the case but it could only be speculation.
@Michael: I promise I'll be SHOCKED anyway <!-- sbearhug -->bearhug<!-- sbearhug -->
out of any wood - and its getting harder to find some valid reasons
except money with each passing month.
have you ever tried to talk with a non mj fan?
the normal audience out there what will they say. will
they be able to understand more than 2 years of hiding?
or is it money what they will have in mind?
the death generated a good income for whom?
so yes - the amount of believers is falling.
at the end of the day who will remain?
i am not an mj fan (wasn't) talk to me.
err did you just say mj fans aren't normal <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
If don't focus or worry about whole bam thing and focus about hoax, then the bam can come as a shocker when ever that may be <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) --> i hate bam dates any ways, if there date someone says as special, i'd expect TMZ news for that day <!-- s
to be honest, I never experienced the "MJ fan community" untill 2 years back and some of them are adorable good hearted people but others are the total opposite. One day I will post some "love messages" I received after June 25th 2009...some people can go really far for "the love OF Michael".
Many of us were not active fans or not even fans but still we gathered together somehow.
I for instance was very upset with the 1st hoax forum and how some members pushed the idea of MJ being alive behind an avatar chatting to people in the forum. I did not believe that MJ was dead but did not believe that he was in the forum either.
Even if we try/ tried to get some concensus and support each others "delusions" the truth is that we believed that MJ was alive on the 1st place because nothing made sense not because trolls pretended to be MJ.
It´s about faith, gut feeling, critical thinking...call it as you wish but the truth is that we talk here about things we don´t talk in daily life (I put myself as an example when talking about dreams etc) hoping to find someone "alike" to share opinions with.
People say "do not encourage others" and is true. The less people interested or sharing the same opinion the better to extinguish a concept or conversation.
In any case, those who changed their minds about MJ being alive, have the right to do so.
Glad you are still positive! I can only see confusion and chaos in this story hoax.
Sometimes I think if Michael is alive, he would allow this mess? Or as you say, then perhaps part of the game!
We have to wait and see, but I think most here will not wait for 20 years. <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
This admin dude must be VERY SICK person, so many people trusted him! Well it's not really his fault though, people should not be so gullible, now they can't blame anyone, because no one forced them to follow this idiot.
But i still feel bad for them <!-- s:( -->:(<!-- s:( -->
And now i don't even know what must happen for me to believe that Michael is indeed dead. I thought he was dead before because i didn't really investigated it, i knew the main media story and that was it. But now that i know so much, what should happen for me to change my mind??? IDK
maybe I can be wrong but this makes me wonder who or who are or were behind Jonell?, that just does not stop publishing, actually did for a long time, why not wait to start the trial, all the evidence that Michael is still alive are that nothing has changed
If he's dead I WANT TO KNOW!!
This uncertainty is killing me. <!-- scrash/ -->crash/<!-- scrash/ --> <!-- scrash/ -->crash/<!-- scrash/ --> <!-- scrash/ -->crash/<!-- scrash/ -->
<!-- s
<!-- sbearhug -->bearhug<!-- sbearhug -->
THANK YOUUUU ! <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
hummm this is interesting.
Good posts!!
Not only Jermaine, but this reminds me of when Dave Dave got cryptic and then got all upset saying MJ was dead. Then the Jason Malachi site where he claimed to be hacked and had been recording music for the ‘Michael’ album hired by Sony.
Games, g ames, games!!!! I’m sure many more will give up on the hoax now, again… The numbers will dwindle even more. Hm… Survival of the fittest! MJ is pulling out all the stops! Yet Paris posts her interesting hoax-faith boosters! The lesson is we have to keep our heads and be strong. This ain't for no sissies. <!-- sbearhug -->bearhug<!-- sbearhug -->
<!-- slolol/ -->lolol/<!-- slolol/ --> Nice post as well MJonmind
! shit! fooled me, someone took a channel with a similar name and put the same picture of avatar and commented on the true channel Jonell.
This is the address of Jonell
<!-- m -->http://www.youtube.com/user/JonellStarTV<!-- m -->
And this other:
<!-- m -->http://www.youtube.com/user/JoneilStarTV<!-- m -->
JonellStarTV
(5 days ago)
I'm back!! How' is everyone? Thank you for your continued
support of the series! It would not have been what it is without you!
! joder ! <!-- serrrr -->errrr<!-- serrrr --> <!-- s
Videos coming soon. I'm just here to provoke thought. Stop letting others think for you. Look beyond the surface....and please if you do not have a relationship with Jesus Christ, do not wait to late to try and seek him. His return is coming soon, the bible is fulfilling itself.
No weapon formed against me shall prosper <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
The intent of this series is to provide a great example of looking beyond the surface with everything.
This series isn't about worshipping the man, but embracing the message...
2 years ago she also wrote that she was a nurse/studyng to become one and that she had a revelation dream, MJ was not dead. In any case, she is a Christian and now believes that MJ is dead.
Feels like religious people have been cyber-knocking doors to convert others using MJ as the channel.
Why are some people putting believers against each other?
If I understand correctly someone (who apparently has too much time) created an account on Youtube with JonellStarTV photo and made a small change in spelling (i instead of l), and posted this particular comment. If you click on this one comment of allegedly JonellStarTV, you get the message that "This channel is not available".
So, it all seems that the real JonellStarTV did not say she was not a believer anymore. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
You're right Forst. Real Jonell never wrote that she was no longer a believer. It's just some non-believers trying to confuse us and make us lose hope.