If E'cass has a health problem do you guys know what it is? <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> Because MAYBE the guy who died last June 25, 2009 could be a cancer patient. <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
- old, frail, sick man, ( well, you can look old, if you terminal cancer)
- bald
- lots of needle puncture
- anorexic ( base on the first autopsy report)
- addicted to pain killer
- seems like no panic at all specially the guy who called 911, is it because maybe, patient is expected to die any minute..
Of course, these are all just my opinion..
Ecasanova had a life threatening disease it was remained unknown and he claimed that it wasn’t a sexual disease.He made an announcement in 2007 about this and this is how it looks like <!-- m -->http://i82.servimg.com/u/f82/14/52/75/39/1forth14.jpg<!-- m -->. However this is what I found: I am E'Casanova's publisist and this is not true.
E'Casanova's page was hacked a couple of years ago and this was posted. We know who did it and they've been dealt with legally but this is a bad rumor that simply needs to stop.
E'Casanova is healthy as always and in fact is hosting 3 events in Hawaii October 27 thru October 31st and he's doing 2 concerts in Brazil Dec 2 and 4th.
Please remove this topic.
Thank you,
Tom
You might choose to believe it or not but remain sceptical
I cant believe I didnt notice this but someone on LK posted that if MJ really was addicted to drugs that you ingest, his liver and kidneys would be damaged, yet we have heard of no such thing in MJ's autopsy report. They said his liver and kidneys were working fine. So..........how does a drug addict have healthy kidneys and liver? They dont.
Whether it affects the hoax or not, we have different opinions about that. But we can all agree that it's weird we haven't heard about E'Cas or seen an un-photoshopped picture of him in a while. We can keep speculating about his health & medical history but we'll know the truth when MJROCKSMYSOCKSOFF's friend gets back to her..which will be soon I hope <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
i think we are getting carried away with e cas ,and about the liver and kidney thing i said this a while back there were no signs of damage i take strong meds and i regularly get blood tests for liver and kidney function so who are they trying to kid with that autopsy certainly not me <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s -->
If E'Casanova did die on June 23 or 25, 2009, my heart goes out to the family. I did read somewhere that he did die and MJ made a deal with the family. I always remember Kai Chase the chef saying that none of the staff members were allowed upstairs. Also, she did say that Dr. Murray would carry out oxygen tanks every morning. I have a feeling that MJ was taking care of E'Casanova and he pushed the concert date back to July 13th, instead of July 8th. IMO, I think the drugs the LAPD found were for E'Casanova. I always wonder why E'Casanova's manager appeared at the MJ's funeral. Here's video of what E'Casanova's manager looks like (The caption is in Spanish). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1iA4eJ7L2c
Somewhere I have read he had appearances / tour???
In Hawai this party.
The picture at the commemorative celebration was a photo shop.
The manager on "MJs" burial.
Nothing does to sense, however, it also gives no pictures of Him or in such a way, to are moved. <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
What is the possibility of Mike and E'cas Changing identities?
Mike becoming E'cas and vice versa, i seem to remember a while back talk of E'cas releasing a song, What if he was REALLY Mike?
It just gets more confusing by the day. <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: -->
What I do not understand is that due to his vitiligo Michael had gone very pale, so how could E'cass realistically pass himself off as Michael-a long time ago maybe but not for a few years as Michael as there was a great difference in skin colour.
Oh this is so confusing and mind boggling!
I have heard from my friend and he hasn't talked with E'Casanova since Feb 09 and this was in person when my friend was visiting relatives in a different country.
It is ironic how his acct was hacked and his manager denied the story he was ill and retiring even though he is not booked or accepting any offers for performances but his manager went to the funeral without E'Casanova.How would he get an invite..is he close to the family? <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
He does indeed have cancer but took a turn for the worst when he stopped responding well to his treatments and also had major complications from them.He looked very ill,thin,frail and was wearing a bandanna due to losing his hair.
My friend also has heard he passed away in June but does not live in the same country as E'Casanova and his family's number is not listed in the phone book so he can't call to offer condolences and also said "Do I come out and say I heard your son died?".Sensitive and uncomfortable position to be in but he is going to check around with other friends.
He also said there is no way that is him in that photo at the memorial due to his ill health and appearance.No way he could be travelling there in his condition which I totally understand because being a cancer patient myself,my energy is drained and during my full rounds of treatments,I also was very ill,thin and even could be described as frail.
That would be also be an emotional event for him to attend and not a good idea to upset him because I suffered losses during my treatments which led to breathing problems and days in bed on Dr. ordered bedrest.
E's Myspace acct says it is under construction and he is not accepting friend requests because I have sent him several and he denies each one.
Someone could be running the page for him if he has indeed passed away and dedication pages are starting to pop up but I haven't been accepted yet on those either.
I agree with the posters whom said this could be a clue because the photographer did goof up and said we were there the other day and then corrected himself,the paramedics said they attended to an old man,the 911 call didn't mention 911 and the bodyguard that made the call did seem too calm as if it were expected but I still wonder about the validity of that call because 911 operators don't tell the caller to call back if they need more help and hang up,they stay on the phone with the caller until paramedics arrive.
The autopsy report is way off stating a healthy man because MJ would have liver damage amongst other health issues with his drug abuse and the weight is way off because there is no way MJ weighed more than me during those last rehearsals.
I will wait for more word and post as soon as I hear back from my friend.I pray this is just a rumor but with what my friend described to me and the other facts in this hoax,I am wondering if it is indeed true. <!-- s --><!-- s -->
MJROCKSMYSOCKSOFF,thank you so much for that post,i am sending you lots of love and i hope you will recover very soon ,just no that this family is here for you 100% take care , and you have a personal invite to my padded cell anytime you want <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
I think we could just keep going around and around in circles with this topic unless we can get substantial and verified information of E'Cas exact illness and possible death. The thing is when E'Cas posted he was ill in 2007 and could no longer perform, most of his accounts went quiet (maybe the odd one or 2 posts here and there), but literally for years the posts on some of his sites became void or scant.
On some of them, the only time he posted again was once Michael died and then all of a sudden he is able to perform again? One of the posts he left was to the Jackson Family, but this was a fair bit of time after Michael had already "supposedly" died. You would think someone with that type of connection would of left a post at least with the first week of Michael dying.
I have mixed feelings about this E'Cas thing... It's very sad if he's the one who died. But on the other way... You know what I mean? <!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: -->
I have mixed feelings about this E'Cas thing... It's very sad if he's the one who died. But on the other way... You know what I mean? <!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: -->
I hope no one has died...
This has been a complex, but brilliant plan on Mjs part. This has been in the making since
along time ago. Last year when announced MJ had so called Lung cancer and only had 6months
or so to live! was the start, And I belive this is where Ecas and his illness came into light.
My theory thus far seems to be comming to light! I guess time will tell.
It could be possible, with Make up, Think what they do in movies to lighten or darken someones skin.
Wait a minute, this could all be a movie!! ?? <!-- s:P -->:P<!-- s:P -->
Could this actually be a movie, an unwritten one... Made up as it goes along?
And ideas and theories we put on here ARE the script??
We mention things and it seems like days or hours later, a clip will show up on Youtube.
It could be possible, with Make up, Think what they do in movies to lighten or darken someones skin.
Wait a minute, this could all be a movie!! ?? <!-- s:P -->:P<!-- s:P -->
Could this actually be a movie, an unwritten one... Made up as it goes along?
And ideas and theories we put on here ARE the script??
We mention things and it seems like days or hours later, a clip will show up on Youtube.
If E'cass has a health problem do you guys know what it is? <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> Because MAYBE the guy who died last June 25, 2009 could be a cancer patient. <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
- old, frail, sick man, ( well, you can look old, if you terminal cancer)
- bald
- lots of needle puncture
- anorexic ( base on the first autopsy report)
- addicted to pain killer
- seems like no panic at all specially the guy who called 911, is it because maybe, patient is expected to die any minute..
Of course, these are all just my opinion..
Ecasanova had a life threatening disease it was remained unknown and he claimed that it wasn’t a sexual disease.He made an announcement in 2007 about this and this is how it looks like <!-- m -->http://i82.servimg.com/u/f82/14/52/75/39/1forth14.jpg<!-- m -->. However this is what I found: I am E'Casanova's publisist and this is not true.
E'Casanova's page was hacked a couple of years ago and this was posted. We know who did it and they've been dealt with legally but this is a bad rumor that simply needs to stop.
E'Casanova is healthy as always and in fact is hosting 3 events in Hawaii October 27 thru October 31st and he's doing 2 concerts in Brazil Dec 2 and 4th.
Please remove this topic.
Thank you,
Tom
You might choose to believe it or not but remain sceptical
i definitely remember that message from "tom" but i remember that many of us questioned his being on this hoax website...as if he also had doubts like us? but he never answered back.
There is a video on YouTube showing E'Casanova. He was giving a brief "tour" of the items of Michaels that were up for auction. There was some questions about the video because he mentions a date that the items would go back to Michael (that part was confusing). Anyhow, E'Casanova did not look frail at all in that video. If I remember correctly, it was made earlier this year. But, major illnesses and treatments can make a person look very bad very quickly.
Im only saying this ONCE MORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ecas has passed
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Invincible - member 4 posts 0 permalink Ecas passed june 23rd 09
if you try and search death records in the usa...see what happens
replyquote28 November 2009 06:48 AM rae
Thiller The Comeback Part II - founder 1074 posts 0 permalink
yes he is dead.
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Count ur life by smiles, not tears. Count ur age by friends, not years replyquote28 November 2009 06:53 AM pinkshots
Invincible - member 4 posts 0 permalink
yes he is dead.
-rae
seems like we are on the same path
replyquote28 November 2009 06:56 AM rae
Thiller The Comeback Part II - founder 1074 posts 0 permalink
indeed. it was obvious though. but u know when you just say it once, other people have different opinions of course. so ur just like forget it..my opinions dont count anymore so you just go by what they want to hear and play along with it
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Count ur life by smiles, not tears. Count ur age by friends, not years replyquote28 November 2009 07:01 AM pinkshots
Invincible - member 4 posts 0 permalink
indeed. it was obvious though. but u know when you just say it once, other people have different opinions of course. so ur just like forget it..my opinions dont count anymore so you just go by what they want to hear and play along with it
-rae
OMG girl you are so right!!! Ive been trying for the last two days to tell
people this news but their minds are so closed!
THis is a major part of the whole thing Rae..It really is!!
THERE IS NO I REPEAT NO DEATH RECORD FOR ECASS FOR HIS REAL OR STAGE NAME!!!!!!!!!!!
FURTHERMORE PEOPLE HAVE SEEN HIM AND HES STILL DOING SHOWS.
PUT RUMORS TO REST; ITS NOT GOING TO HELP YOURSELF OR ANYONE ELSE!
There is a girl with a youtube called mrnobodysayshi.
She doesnt know anything. Death records are public and no such death record exists. Someone is pulling her chain or she's pulling ours. I unsubscribed because its simply NOT TRUE.
DO YOU ALL SOMETIMES READ WHAT THE OTHER MEMBERS POST ?
It's the 3rd time I'm writing on this forum, on different threads, including that very one (SEE ABOVE), that E'Casanova is alive, that he was in Honolulu on October 27 2009, and that we have evidence of it on an website!
The website is the following : http://www.starbulletin.com/features/20091106_on_the_scene.html
(If the link doesn't work, go to <!-- w -->www.starbulletin.com<!-- w --> and put E'Casanova in the search engine. On a page titled "On the stage, dated on November 6 2009, you'll find the article and the picture of E'Casanova which was taken on October 27 2009 when he performed in Honolulu.
This is the picture :
Please, stop all those silly speculations about E'Casanova. It's becoming ridiculous, and insane. This forum sometimes gives me the feeling I'm in a mental hospital.
DO YOU ALL SOMETIMES READ WHAT THE OTHER MEMBERS POST ?
It's the 3rd time I'm writing on this forum, on different threads, including that very one (SEE ABOVE), that E'Casanova is alive, that he was in Honolulu on October 27 2009, and that we have evidence of it on an website!
The website is the following : http://www.starbulletin.com/features/20091106_on_the_scene.html
(If the link doesn't work, go to <!-- m -->http://www.starbulletin.com<!-- m --> and put E'Casanova in the search engine. On a page titled "On the stage, dated on November 6 2009, you'll find the article and the picture of E'Casanova which was taken on October 27 2009 when he performed in Honolulu.
This is the picture :
Please, stop all those silly speculations about E'Casanova. It's becoming ridiculous, and insane. This forum sometimes gives me the feeling I'm in a mental hospital.
Amen! For people who want to find out the truth they are sure eager to spread lies. Its not difficult to look up a death certificate. Don't lie about people being dead when they're not, it will only make you look stupid in the end.
Comments
I am E'Casanova's publisist and this is not true.
E'Casanova's page was hacked a couple of years ago and this was posted. We know who did it and they've been dealt with legally but this is a bad rumor that simply needs to stop.
E'Casanova is healthy as always and in fact is hosting 3 events in Hawaii October 27 thru October 31st and he's doing 2 concerts in Brazil Dec 2 and 4th.
Please remove this topic.
Thank you,
Tom
You might choose to believe it or not but remain sceptical
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1iA4eJ7L2c
Also, the security videos are missing.
In Hawai this party.
The picture at the commemorative celebration was a photo shop.
The manager on "MJs" burial.
Nothing does to sense, however, it also gives no pictures of Him or in such a way, to are moved. <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
Oh this is so confusing and mind boggling!
I have heard from my friend and he hasn't talked with E'Casanova since Feb 09 and this was in person when my friend was visiting relatives in a different country.
It is ironic how his acct was hacked and his manager denied the story he was ill and retiring even though he is not booked or accepting any offers for performances but his manager went to the funeral without E'Casanova.How would he get an invite..is he close to the family? <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
He does indeed have cancer but took a turn for the worst when he stopped responding well to his treatments and also had major complications from them.He looked very ill,thin,frail and was wearing a bandanna due to losing his hair.
My friend also has heard he passed away in June but does not live in the same country as E'Casanova and his family's number is not listed in the phone book so he can't call to offer condolences and also said "Do I come out and say I heard your son died?".Sensitive and uncomfortable position to be in but he is going to check around with other friends.
He also said there is no way that is him in that photo at the memorial due to his ill health and appearance.No way he could be travelling there in his condition which I totally understand because being a cancer patient myself,my energy is drained and during my full rounds of treatments,I also was very ill,thin and even could be described as frail.
That would be also be an emotional event for him to attend and not a good idea to upset him because I suffered losses during my treatments which led to breathing problems and days in bed on Dr. ordered bedrest.
E's Myspace acct says it is under construction and he is not accepting friend requests because I have sent him several and he denies each one.
Someone could be running the page for him if he has indeed passed away and dedication pages are starting to pop up but I haven't been accepted yet on those either.
I agree with the posters whom said this could be a clue because the photographer did goof up and said we were there the other day and then corrected himself,the paramedics said they attended to an old man,the 911 call didn't mention 911 and the bodyguard that made the call did seem too calm as if it were expected but I still wonder about the validity of that call because 911 operators don't tell the caller to call back if they need more help and hang up,they stay on the phone with the caller until paramedics arrive.
The autopsy report is way off stating a healthy man because MJ would have liver damage amongst other health issues with his drug abuse and the weight is way off because there is no way MJ weighed more than me during those last rehearsals.
I will wait for more word and post as soon as I hear back from my friend.I pray this is just a rumor but with what my friend described to me and the other facts in this hoax,I am wondering if it is indeed true. <!-- s
On some of them, the only time he posted again was once Michael died and then all of a sudden he is able to perform again? One of the posts he left was to the Jackson Family, but this was a fair bit of time after Michael had already "supposedly" died. You would think someone with that type of connection would of left a post at least with the first week of Michael dying.
Bit of a mystery here.
E cas Did not perform in Hawai as planned.
Also No tour dates were planned for 09
Sorry guys but Im of the opinion Ecas did pass. My sorce is sure of it!
I did annonce this to you all days ago, but you didnt listen!!
This maybe our biggest clue...and dont be too eager to think Joe is not helping MJ
The more you put Mjs family down, the better it is for MJ
It keeps the truth at bay!!!
I have mixed feelings about this E'Cas thing... It's very sad if he's the one who died. But on the other way... You know what I mean? <!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: -->
I hope no one has died...
This has been a complex, but brilliant plan on Mjs part. This has been in the making since
along time ago. Last year when announced MJ had so called Lung cancer and only had 6months
or so to live! was the start, And I belive this is where Ecas and his illness came into light.
My theory thus far seems to be comming to light! I guess time will tell.
It could be possible, with Make up, Think what they do in movies to lighten or darken someones skin.
Wait a minute, this could all be a movie!! ?? <!-- s:P -->:P<!-- s:P -->
Could this actually be a movie, an unwritten one... Made up as it goes along?
And ideas and theories we put on here ARE the script??
We mention things and it seems like days or hours later, a clip will show up on Youtube.
It couldn't get any weirder, could it??
Not a movie, but an ARG.
i definitely remember that message from "tom" but i remember that many of us questioned his being on this hoax website...as if he also had doubts like us? but he never answered back.
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Invincible - member 4 posts 0 permalink Ecas passed june 23rd 09
if you try and search death records in the usa...see what happens
replyquote28 November 2009 06:48 AM rae
Thiller The Comeback Part II - founder 1074 posts 0 permalink
yes he is dead.
__________________
Count ur life by smiles, not tears. Count ur age by friends, not years replyquote28 November 2009 06:53 AM pinkshots
Invincible - member 4 posts 0 permalink
yes he is dead.
-rae
seems like we are on the same path
replyquote28 November 2009 06:56 AM rae
Thiller The Comeback Part II - founder 1074 posts 0 permalink
indeed. it was obvious though. but u know when you just say it once, other people have different opinions of course. so ur just like forget it..my opinions dont count anymore so you just go by what they want to hear and play along with it
__________________
Count ur life by smiles, not tears. Count ur age by friends, not years replyquote28 November 2009 07:01 AM pinkshots
Invincible - member 4 posts 0 permalink
indeed. it was obvious though. but u know when you just say it once, other people have different opinions of course. so ur just like forget it..my opinions dont count anymore so you just go by what they want to hear and play along with it
-rae
OMG girl you are so right!!! Ive been trying for the last two days to tell
people this news but their minds are so closed!
THis is a major part of the whole thing Rae..It really is!!
Can you PM me please
replyquote28 November 2009 07:26 AM
FURTHERMORE PEOPLE HAVE SEEN HIM AND HES STILL DOING SHOWS.
PUT RUMORS TO REST; ITS NOT GOING TO HELP YOURSELF OR ANYONE ELSE!
There is a girl with a youtube called mrnobodysayshi.
She doesnt know anything. Death records are public and no such death record exists. Someone is pulling her chain or she's pulling ours. I unsubscribed because its simply NOT TRUE.
It's the 3rd time I'm writing on this forum, on different threads, including that very one (SEE ABOVE), that E'Casanova is alive, that he was in Honolulu on October 27 2009, and that we have evidence of it on an website!
The website is the following :
http://www.starbulletin.com/features/20091106_on_the_scene.html
(If the link doesn't work, go to <!-- w -->www.starbulletin.com<!-- w --> and put E'Casanova in the search engine. On a page titled "On the stage, dated on November 6 2009, you'll find the article and the picture of E'Casanova which was taken on October 27 2009 when he performed in Honolulu.
This is the picture :
Please, stop all those silly speculations about E'Casanova. It's becoming ridiculous, and insane. This forum sometimes gives me the feeling I'm in a mental hospital.
An Arg Filmed in HD for MJ, all for L.O.V.E. <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
Amen! For people who want to find out the truth they are sure eager to spread lies. Its not difficult to look up a death certificate. Don't lie about people being dead when they're not, it will only make you look stupid in the end.