i don't think no one knows where Michael (is supposed to be) he's not at Forest Lawn that's for sure!
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No one guards Elvis grave, or John Lennon, or Princess Diana... doesnt mean they are alive and the graves are empty.
Sorry... not being a party pooper, but you got to look at the other side too.
Forest Lawn is a secure, closed morseleum anyways.. dont see why they would need a guard.
exactly! so the whole thing with the guards was a show off from the start. just for intimidation, so nobody would even dare try and go in. now, all of a sudden, they decide it not being necessary anymore, although there are still flocks of fans at the cemetary's gates?
honestly, i don't think the comparisons here are quite fitting. elvis is buried in his own museum, lennon i don't know, and princess diana is buried on a secluded island in the middle of a lake. but they are all in places were also fans have an opportunity to visit. contrary to michael jackson's 'final resting place', where his fans are excluded. an entertainer buried and no fans can pay their respects? very weird...since the family also said: 'michael always said his family is first and his fans are second'. so, the second most important group of people is not allowed to pay respects to their idol? very, very weird...like any of michael's fans would damage the tomb in any way? they think that bad of michael's fans? <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
and if michael were intombed there, then there would be no way for anyone to even get to the casket, cuz the sucker would be covered under a heavy-a$$ marble plate the size of a pool table! and then you have to manage to open up a sealed, bronze casket cover from the top, weighing another half ton, cuz you couldn't get it off from the side with the marble casing still around the sides of the coffin. now, who in their right mind would go through that to ravage a grave? and do all that unnoticed, too? and if they were so scared that anyone would do damage, they could have just put the whole thing behind some bullet-proof glass. it's not that they couldn' pay for that, too.
plus a mausoleum is usually locked anyway, all you need is a security cam and an alarm system. i reckon that forest lawn cemeteries have such devices in this day and age. anyone act funny in there, the facility locks down, police alarm is forwarded and you got a catch. especially with all the celebs buried there. well, except one... <!-- s --><!-- s -->
edit: it is said that yoko ono kept john lennon's ashes. he has a memorial in central park.
No one guards Elvis grave, or John Lennon, or Princess Diana... doesnt mean they are alive and the graves are empty.
Sorry... not being a party pooper, but you got to look at the other side too.
Forest Lawn is a secure, closed morseleum anyways.. dont see why they would need a guard.
I get what your saying but the Jackson family were the one's that said they needed the tomb to be guarded because they feared body snatcher's. If that is the case then what has changed that the tomb doesn't need to be guarded now? And Elvis is buried at Graceland he was moved there because someone tired to steal his body from Forest Hill Cemetery in Memphis. I'm not an Elvis fan so I shouldn't know that. I'm not sure about John Lennon and Princess Diana.
Not to sound morbidly grose, but maybe if there is a corpse, decomposition is so advanced now, nobody would know if it really was Michael or not if they did try stealing the body? <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
Not to sound morbidly grose, but maybe if there is a corpse, decomposition is so advanced now, nobody would know if it really was Michael or not if they did try stealing the body? <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
but didn't the family say that he was embalmed anf frozen and then had a half dozen people do his make up 2 months later and that he looked so great, 'like he was ready to go on stage'? he should be pretty concealed and still 'fresh' with all that treatment and then being sealed in a cold marble tomb... <!-- s --><!-- s -->
if anyone is even buried there (which i don't think) that body should look like a regular concealed mummy.
Not to sound morbidly grose, but maybe if there is a corpse, decomposition is so advanced now, nobody would know if it really was Michael or not if they did try stealing the body? <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
but didn't the family say that he was embalmed anf frozen and then had a half dozen people do his make up 2 months later and that he looked so great, 'like he was ready to go on stage'? he should be pretty concealed and still 'fresh' with all that treatment and then being sealed in a cold marble tomb... <!-- s --><!-- s -->
if anyone is even buried there (which i don't think) that body should look like a regular concealed mummy.
Hey hey... I love it! Which brings us back around to the mummy in Liberian Girl! <!-- s --><!-- s -->
Or......maybe if Michael needs more time, family will clain someone stole the body (that was never there) and hold for ransom! It will be major news on all the stations! <!-- s --><!-- s -->
diana is in a remote island on her family estate - bet there is general security
mike - i think that there is not the interest that hoaxers assume there is, plus Fl as alot of celes there anyway
but i dont know - what is the policy for general entry to FL? what does MJJcommunity do - just turn up and head there and leave flowers, they dont go in - security intervenes.
so if i wanted to go - what do i do apart from join MJJcommunity?
In the beginning Jacksons said they bought 12 laps on the cemetary, so even the worker wouldn't know where he was burried .
But why they bought 12 laps if he's supposed to be burried inside the mausoleum <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
In the beginning Jacksons said they bought 12 laps on the cemetary, so even the worker wouldn't know where he was burried .
But why they bought 12 laps if he's supposed to be burried inside the mausoleum <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
they purchased these cabinet type holes in the wall out of his estate?
There is a simple way to see if there's something in the grave without invading it. Mobile X-Ray camera.
is that going to go through the marble or granite and the casket?
*guffaw*
I could just see through it with ma superpowers. DUHH! <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> <!-- s --><!-- s -->
I highly doubt he's in the grave anyways, so there's nothing to protect IMO.
There does seem to be something going on here. The timing of MJ's tomb being unguarded and James Brown's body going missing and Murray is linked to both of them and his case coming up in few weeks.
I think things could be about to unfold. Too many coincidences again....
It could be the investigators hope to catch the individuals that were also behind the stealing of JB's body. If there is a connection, those individuals might also attempt to open MJ's tomb. To stop guarding the tomb might be a bait. Let's hope they will be caught, it would mean a HUGE progress in this case.
Furthermore...IF MJ is in a WPP because he needed official protection from those individuals and they can be caught and brought to justice...
No one guards Elvis grave, or John Lennon, or Princess Diana... doesnt mean they are alive and the graves are empty.
Sorry... not being a party pooper, but you got to look at the other side too.
Forest Lawn is a secure, closed morseleum anyways.. dont see why they would need a guard.
Yeah true but those celebrities died a long time ago too. MJ is recent.
at the time those other celebs died, there was still not that kind of action going on, not that i remember. i was 15 when john lennon was shot, so i remember that well enough.
No one guards Elvis grave, or John Lennon, or Princess Diana... doesnt mean they are alive and the graves are empty.
Sorry... not being a party pooper, but you got to look at the other side too.
Forest Lawn is a secure, closed morseleum anyways.. dont see why they would need a guard.
Yeah true but those celebrities died a long time ago too. MJ is recent.
And besides, Michael's death is an open case, it's considered a murder case and it would be a shame, when something would happen to the grave/the body.
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Sorry... not being a party pooper, but you got to look at the other side too.
Forest Lawn is a secure, closed morseleum anyways.. dont see why they would need a guard.
exactly! so the whole thing with the guards was a show off from the start. just for intimidation, so nobody would even dare try and go in. now, all of a sudden, they decide it not being necessary anymore, although there are still flocks of fans at the cemetary's gates?
honestly, i don't think the comparisons here are quite fitting. elvis is buried in his own museum, lennon i don't know, and princess diana is buried on a secluded island in the middle of a lake. but they are all in places were also fans have an opportunity to visit. contrary to michael jackson's 'final resting place', where his fans are excluded. an entertainer buried and no fans can pay their respects? very weird...since the family also said: 'michael always said his family is first and his fans are second'. so, the second most important group of people is not allowed to pay respects to their idol? very, very weird...like any of michael's fans would damage the tomb in any way? they think that bad of michael's fans? <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
and if michael were intombed there, then there would be no way for anyone to even get to the casket, cuz the sucker would be covered under a heavy-a$$ marble plate the size of a pool table! and then you have to manage to open up a sealed, bronze casket cover from the top, weighing another half ton, cuz you couldn't get it off from the side with the marble casing still around the sides of the coffin. now, who in their right mind would go through that to ravage a grave? and do all that unnoticed, too? and if they were so scared that anyone would do damage, they could have just put the whole thing behind some bullet-proof glass. it's not that they couldn' pay for that, too.
plus a mausoleum is usually locked anyway, all you need is a security cam and an alarm system. i reckon that forest lawn cemeteries have such devices in this day and age. anyone act funny in there, the facility locks down, police alarm is forwarded and you got a catch. especially with all the celebs buried there. well, except one... <!-- s
edit: it is said that yoko ono kept john lennon's ashes. he has a memorial in central park.
but didn't the family say that he was embalmed anf frozen and then had a half dozen people do his make up 2 months later and that he looked so great, 'like he was ready to go on stage'? he should be pretty concealed and still 'fresh' with all that treatment and then being sealed in a cold marble tomb... <!-- s
if anyone is even buried there (which i don't think) that body should look like a regular concealed mummy.
Hey hey... I love it! Which brings us back around to the mummy in Liberian Girl! <!-- s
Or......maybe if Michael needs more time, family will clain someone stole the body (that was never there) and hold for ransom! It will be major news on all the stations! <!-- s
Yeah true but those celebrities died a long time ago too. MJ is recent.
diana is in a remote island on her family estate - bet there is general security
mike - i think that there is not the interest that hoaxers assume there is, plus Fl as alot of celes there anyway
but i dont know - what is the policy for general entry to FL? what does MJJcommunity do - just turn up and head there and leave flowers, they dont go in - security intervenes.
so if i wanted to go - what do i do apart from join MJJcommunity?
But why they bought 12 laps if he's supposed to be burried inside the mausoleum <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
they purchased these cabinet type holes in the wall out of his estate?
I could just see through it with ma superpowers. DUHH! <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> <!-- s
I highly doubt he's in the grave anyways, so there's nothing to protect IMO.
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Just think if they go to MJs tomb if Dr Murray wants more evidence? Its an interesting thought!
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There does seem to be something going on here. The timing of MJ's tomb being unguarded and James Brown's body going missing and Murray is linked to both of them and his case coming up in few weeks.
I think things could be about to unfold. Too many coincidences again....
Furthermore...IF MJ is in a WPP because he needed official protection from those individuals and they can be caught and brought to justice...
probably not - who will pay for that now
at the time those other celebs died, there was still not that kind of action going on, not that i remember. i was 15 when john lennon was shot, so i remember that well enough.
YES thats exactly wat i was thinking..
And besides, Michael's death is an open case, it's considered a murder case and it would be a shame, when something would happen to the grave/the body.