Hm, I wonder: if this lil' fling did happen between Jason and a fake, do you guys think that now, afterward, Jason knows or figures it wasn't really Michael? He most likely didn't at the time of that infamous interview, but do you think that now..?
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Just what we want in our doctors. And then to say he did not betray Michael's confidence. No wonder he has death threats.
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DameElizabeth
I thought doctors, like priests took an oath of confidentiality. May God have mercy on his soul.
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As she mentions the confidence and the oath...if this story isn´t true, then it doesnt have anything to do with the oath of confidentiality, does it?
yes it has alot to do with confidentiality even if it's was true he has no right to say this to the public because of the privacy act he is a doctor you can't go around talking about your patients private life the Jackson's need to sue him
i still think that arnie risks to be sued with these statements he made. he is not supposed to talk about anyone's private matters WHATSOEVER, doctor or not, patient or not. nobody is supposed to make anyone else's private business public. you can be sued for defamation, arnie is def up for that.
i highly respect, thank and admire dame elizabeth for speaking up on this matter. finally someone with a straight head reacting to this frenzy. and she made some points with arnie 'supplying' for people, he's def unmasked as an enabler now, although he was always disputing that, being mike's 'best buddy' and all...creep! at least he got the most creepy role in this, if he's playin'...
My personal belief is that Arnie Klein, Frank Delio, Tohme Tohme and possibly a lot of others around Michael whom I cannot name, were diverting Michael's money and buying and distributing illegal prescription drugs using him as the alibi proclaiming that they were getting them for Michael in all those different names. I believe they were trafficking under the pretense and allegations that Michael was such a heavy user that they had to use all these aliases to purchase them. I think that it's all bullshit and would't be surprised if they were addicts themselves. Just my 2 cents worth. Everybody betrayed Michael Jackson. How freaking sad that make me. He might have legitimately been prescribed some of them, but all of that junk, I just ain't buying it.
Wow, I couldn't agree more. This has been my feeling for a long time. It makes my heart ache to see how people used and treated Michael.
I can only pray that the truth really does come out about all of these people. I am not the kind of person who would wish harm or bad things on anyone, however
"What goes around comes around" and hopefully that will be true in this case.
To me, Liz's tweets imply that those accusations are true. Why didn't she refute them? It is almost like she was saying shame on you.....you know better than to breach confidentiality!!!! <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->
To me Liz isn't implying that the accusations are true. That's why she threw in the Debbie comment. She is not going to speak one way or the other where MIchael is concerned. I think her concern is just to put Arnie in his place for creating the controversy.
um... forget about betraying MJ's confidence, how about denying it? How about saying "Michael was not Gay!" Instead she says how could he betray MJ...To betray means that you tell something that is between two people in secret. Basically she is saying it's true, but yelling at Arnie for doing it...so if this account is real, she is also Betraying MJ! Go figure!
Yep.......I am well I dont know what I am right now. Confused is more like it! can somebody here please give us the most probable summary , the most (more than likely) summarry of what Liz meant by those statements??? Please I am not being an ass I am just dumbfounded by her! I am not bashing her but ummmm.........wouldn't she have said "My longtime friend MJ was definitley not gay, in any way, and then all of her other statements?
Maybe I am reading too much into it...(I luv MJ ) but honestly I dont believe that this man was gay! I just dont' and not because he was/is Michael Jackson I just don't . hell I read in Moonwalk where he says " I love the interaction of the sexes, I love women!" I read this!
And to be honest IF and that is a big IF he was gay would he really go out with somebody like Jason?
Then I have always said that if there is anybody that knows MJ's personal secrets, or a lot of things about him that maybe other friends even family would not know I have always felt that Liz would! Your thoughts? <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
^ She could have just made an error, but if she's implying that it's true, it's because it was between Jason and a fake, and the Tweet is part of her script or whatever from MJ in the hoax.. That's why I wonder if Jason has been informed since that time by someone "in on it" that that wasn't him..
funny wording here: 'may god bless you and michael'. would have been more appropriate to say: may god bless you and rest michael's soul'...but then, it's twitter...unless he meant tgo imply that dame elizabeth knows where mike is... <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
Resurrecting this thread, I was reading through her twitter since I hadn't previously and when I read<br /><br /><br />27 Oct 09 Elizabeth Taylor@DameElizabeth<;br />I was honored with the great privilege of seeing "This Is It" last week. I was sworn to secrecy, but now I can let you know about it.<br />To say the man is a genius is an understatement. He cradles each note, coaxes the music to depths beyond reality.<br />I wept from pure joy at his God given gift. There will never, ever be the likes of him again.<br />And we have this piece of film to remind us forever and ever that once there was such a man. God kissed him<br />God blessed him and squandered nothing, but loved it all. Michael knew how to put together every tone, every nuance to make magic.<br />To say he was a genius seems so little. I wish my vocabulary encompassed what I feel.<br />You owe it to yourselves and your loved ones to see this again and again. Memorize it and say to yourselves, "I saw genius in my lifetime"<br />I loved genius in my lifetime. God was so good to me. I will love Michael forever and so will you, if you don't already.<br />I hope I don't sound condescending. I'm sure you already know what I'm talking about, but go to see it again and again.<br /><br /><br />^^ *Edited* removed 27 oct 09 part and just put them all together to make it shorter. <br />When did the Slur voice of Michael first known???<br /><br />because I instantly in my mind started replaying that slurred voice and transcript when I read her tweets. They are along the same thing except the words are different<br /><br />"We have to be phenomenal. When people leave this show, when people leave my show, I want them to say, `I've never seen nothing like this in my life. Go. Go. I've never seen nothing like this. Go. It's amazing. He's the greatest entertainer in the world.'''<br /><br />I apologize if it's been brought up elsewhere, I checked this thread since it's related to her tweets and my computer is running so slow so before my laptop goes for a flying lesson across the lawn i will leave the looking further until later when i can work out what's slowing it down.<br /><br />Does anyone else get the same kind of connection?<br /><br />
<br />had a heart attack when i saw this thread had been bumped<br /><br />liz tweets... :affraid:<br />
<br /> :icon_lol:<br /><br />Leilani81, I appreciate you going through these old valuable threads! I love ET's words, that are so true! Interesting connection to MJ's slurred bedside tape! I condensed the tweets.<br /><br />Leilani81 quoted:<br />
27 Oct 09 Elizabeth Taylor@DameElizabeth<;br />I hope I don't sound condescending. I'm sure you already know what I'm talking about, but go to see it again and again.<br /><br />I loved genius in my lifetime. God was so good to me. I will love Michael forever and so will you, if you don't already.<br /><br />You owe it to yourselves and your loved ones to see this again and again. Memorize it and say to yourselves, "I saw genius in my lifetime"<br /><br />[size=12pt]To say he was a genius seems so little. I wish my vocabulary encompassed what I feel.<br />God blessed him and squandered nothing, but loved it all. Michael knew how to put together every tone, every nuance to make magic.<br /><br />And we have this piece of film to remind us forever and ever that once there was such a man. God kissed him.<br /><br />I wept from pure joy at his God given gift. There will never, ever be the likes of him again.[/size]<br /><br />To say the man is a genius is an understatement. He cradles each note, coaxes the music to depths beyond reality.<br /><br />It is the single most brilliant piece of filmmaking I have ever seen. It cements forever Michael's genius in every aspect of creativity.<br /><br />I was honored with the great privilege of seeing "This Is It" last week. I was sworn to secrecy, but now I can let you know about it.
Lol! I'm sorry I just thought it was better to post on a thread already made than to make a new one...<br /><br />I just thought it was really interesting that she was encouraging people to go see it, the same way Michael had wanted people to leave his performance encouraging others to go see his show,<br /><br /><br /><br /> Michael wanted people to think and say "I've never seen nothing like this in my life. Go. Go. I've never seen nothing like this. Go. It's amazing. He's the greatest entertainer in the world.'''<br /><br />Liz Taylor: You owe it to yourselves and your loved ones to see this again and again. Memorize it and say to yourselves, "I saw genius in my lifetime"<br />"I hope I don't sound condescending. I'm sure you already know what I'm talking about, but go to see it again and again."<br /><br /><br />I suppose I should have put the post like this to begin with, but my silly computer has not been co-operating with me :computer-losy-smiley:<br /><br />
[size=12pt]i'm sorry 4 the stupid question:but,is liz taylor still alive? she's passed away in 2011,am i wrong? by the way,i'm reading some (strange) klein's tweets:on may 31,he writes about mj's death....[/size]<br />[size=14pt]*LUNA*[/size]
<br />[size=12pt]i'm sorry 4 the stupid question:but,is liz taylor still alive? she's passed away in 2011,am i wrong? by the way,i'm reading some (strange) klein's tweets:on may 31,he writes about mj's death....[/size]<br />[size=14pt]*LUNA*[/size]<br />
<br /><br /><br />lol @ luna, the tweets are from 2010<br /><br />but some on the forum still suggest she is alive...<br /><br />
<br />Lol! I'm sorry I just thought it was better to post on a thread already made than to make a new one...<br /><br />I just thought it was really interesting that she was encouraging people to go see it, the same way Michael had wanted people to leave his performance encouraging others to go see his show,<br /><br /><br /><br /> Michael wanted people to think and say "I've never seen nothing like this in my life. Go. Go. I've never seen nothing like this. Go. It's amazing. He's the greatest entertainer in the world.'''<br /><br />Liz Taylor: You owe it to yourselves and your loved ones to see this again and again. Memorize it and say to yourselves, "I saw genius in my lifetime"<br />"I hope I don't sound condescending. I'm sure you already know what I'm talking about, but go to see it again and again."<br /><br /><br />I suppose I should have put the post like this to begin with, but my silly computer has not been co-operating with me :computer-losy-smiley:<br />
<br /><br />Thank you for bringing this topic up again. I didn't remember her words until you brought it back up. Very interesting connection, for sure. Her funeral and wanting to be buried by Michael and all seemed very Hollywood movie-like that it makes me ponder the question of her being dead or not. I do think she probably is but there is still a small amount of uncertainty.<br /><br />These words do resemble Michael's mumbled message and make me once again scratch my head.<br /><br />Best case scenario would be that she, Michael, and Peter Lopez will all be fine at the end of this all. Pipe dreams maybe. IDK.<br /><br />Blessings<br /><br />
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Arnie is SO shady..
you are exactly right!!!
I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU!!!! Thanks for saying this! We needed to be reminded again!
Peace, y'all!
i highly respect, thank and admire dame elizabeth for speaking up on this matter. finally someone with a straight head reacting to this frenzy. and she made some points with arnie 'supplying' for people, he's def unmasked as an enabler now, although he was always disputing that, being mike's 'best buddy' and all...creep! at least he got the most creepy role in this, if he's playin'...
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I can only pray that the truth really does come out about all of these people. I am not the kind of person who would wish harm or bad things on anyone, however
"What goes around comes around" and hopefully that will be true in this case.
I THINK she probably means that MAYBE Debbie did NOT meet Michael thru Arnie afterall???
No she went on a rampage about some actress a couple months ago. It was quite strange.
To me Liz isn't implying that the accusations are true. That's why she threw in the Debbie comment. She is not going to speak one way or the other where MIchael is concerned. I think her concern is just to put Arnie in his place for creating the controversy.
Maybe I am reading too much into it...(I luv MJ ) but honestly I dont believe that this man was gay! I just dont' and not because he was/is Michael Jackson I just don't . hell I read in Moonwalk where he says " I love the interaction of the sexes, I love women!" I read this!
And to be honest IF and that is a big IF he was gay would he really go out with somebody like Jason?
Then I have always said that if there is anybody that knows MJ's personal secrets, or a lot of things about him that maybe other friends even family would not know I have always felt that Liz would! Your thoughts? <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
@DameElizabeth Dearest Elizabeth Michael CHOSE whom he loved; I only SUPPLIED medical care. May God bless you and Michael. Your friend Arnie
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funny wording here: 'may god bless you and michael'. would have been more appropriate to say: may god bless you and rest michael's soul'...but then, it's twitter...unless he meant tgo imply that dame elizabeth knows where mike is... <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
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