MICHAEL Has Told The Biggest LIE of All?
Miss.Peppers
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I am starting this topic because we have touched on it in other areas, noteably in the area of MJs plastic surgery.
Now i am not starting up a debate on MJs surgery... more about whether MJ lied in his interviews and lied to people for means unknown.
One of the bigger areas that stands out to me is the Bashir interview. Yes i know Bashir is a horrid man but something stuck out to me.
1. MJ states that he only has had two plastic surgeries. Two nose jobs so he could hit higher notes. But my understanding his that he had the first nose job as he broke it in a fall. And i think it fair to say that he also hated his nose after being teased about it.
Also in Moonwalk he admitted to cheft chin surgery... so why deny it in the Bashir interview?
In the Youtube video, the discussion about MJ surgery begins at 6:00
2. MJ changes his story in the Bashir documentary about the relationship with the mother of Blanket. Early in the interview he states he had a relationship with the mother and he was conceived in the natural way. At the end he states she was a surrogate. Again.. why lie?
I know this is a sensitive area for MJ but i cant help but feel if he had said "i used a surrogate as i want a family and i wanted children dearly. I am not in a relationship and have not met the right woman to marry so i decided to do it my way" People would have understood and accepted that. It is clear that Debbie Rowe was a surrogate and he only married her for PR reasons. I also understand MJ is deeply religious and to have children out of wedlock must have been a hard decision for him.
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The point i am trying to make is that in certain areas of his life MJ did lie and mask the truth.
In the quest for truth and in my research in the hoax i have even heard the theory that Paris, Prince and Blanket are not biologically his... and therefore because they are not his children then he would have no qualms about leaving them in order to hoax his death. <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
I hope people reading this post understand where i am trying to come from. I am not bashing MJ but i am pointing out he did/may of lied in the past.
And if we believe in the hoax, then are we not believing that MJ has told the biggest lie of all? <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
Now i am not starting up a debate on MJs surgery... more about whether MJ lied in his interviews and lied to people for means unknown.
One of the bigger areas that stands out to me is the Bashir interview. Yes i know Bashir is a horrid man but something stuck out to me.
1. MJ states that he only has had two plastic surgeries. Two nose jobs so he could hit higher notes. But my understanding his that he had the first nose job as he broke it in a fall. And i think it fair to say that he also hated his nose after being teased about it.
Also in Moonwalk he admitted to cheft chin surgery... so why deny it in the Bashir interview?
In the Youtube video, the discussion about MJ surgery begins at 6:00
2. MJ changes his story in the Bashir documentary about the relationship with the mother of Blanket. Early in the interview he states he had a relationship with the mother and he was conceived in the natural way. At the end he states she was a surrogate. Again.. why lie?
I know this is a sensitive area for MJ but i cant help but feel if he had said "i used a surrogate as i want a family and i wanted children dearly. I am not in a relationship and have not met the right woman to marry so i decided to do it my way" People would have understood and accepted that. It is clear that Debbie Rowe was a surrogate and he only married her for PR reasons. I also understand MJ is deeply religious and to have children out of wedlock must have been a hard decision for him.
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The point i am trying to make is that in certain areas of his life MJ did lie and mask the truth.
In the quest for truth and in my research in the hoax i have even heard the theory that Paris, Prince and Blanket are not biologically his... and therefore because they are not his children then he would have no qualms about leaving them in order to hoax his death. <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
I hope people reading this post understand where i am trying to come from. I am not bashing MJ but i am pointing out he did/may of lied in the past.
And if we believe in the hoax, then are we not believing that MJ has told the biggest lie of all? <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
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Like the joke says-how do you tell a guy is lying? answer-he's moving his mouth! <!-- s --><!-- s -->
Can I just say though that we should leave out the question of the kids being his bioligically as he had those kids since birth and if they were biologically his or not he loved them. many many parents love children as if they were biologically theirs if they adopt. I think any child would be hard to leave when you have them from birth no matter what.
And, about Blanket. I found that very odd. He says that he knew the woman and they had a relationship then claims he has no idea who she is. I kinda feel that he did know her, but didn't want to say. He gets shy about these things and he'd get hassled about it and everyone would be on a search for Blanket's mother. I guess she didn't want to be in the spotlight, and he was sweet enough to respect that, even if it meant lying. I mean, look at Debbie, she can't get away from the press now! Once again, we'll never really understand what MJ went through, and like anyone else he too wanted a private life. Either way, it's clear Blanket is definately his son.
Everyone makes MJ out to be a complete angel who would never tell a lie but come on, he's just human! Ok, maybe he's an angelic human <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> He needs to keep things private too. If Michael was capable of keeping secrets like the mother of his child secret for so long, if he really wanted to he could keep other things secret. He's MJ! That's why things like this make me feel he is totally capable of hiding a hoax <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> Granted, keeping a child's mother secret and faking your death are completely different, but as long as everyone's willing to keep their mouth shut, you've got the connections and you're doing this for good reasons then ofcourse it's possible!
Whoever Blanket's mother is, it's none of my business. If he married Debbie Rowe for PR reasons or whatever, it's none of my business. If he's had 1,2,3....10 plastic surgeries, it's none of my business. If he has chosen to not be forthright with the above information, then that's none of my buisness. I respect his privacy and concealment in this matters. There's not many people I can think of that broadcast all of the plastic surgeries they have had for the world to know, nor many other celebrities who have had children in alternative circumstances broadcasting the truth in these matters also.
I dunno. I guess for me there isn't a fine line but a very distinct mark when it comes to crossing the boundary of a persons personal and professional life. We really don't have to be told the truth in these matters if a person chooses not to tell us. There are areas in my private life that remain private and not public and even if asked questions regarding it, I keep it this way.
This probably wasn't much help then <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> Sorry, but that stuff and him lying about it, doesn't bother me because it has nothing to do with me and he has every right to not reveal it if he doesn't want to.
Absolutely Harleyblonde! My husband and I have 4 biological and 3 adopted children. We love each and every one of them exactly the same. We will always be Mum and Dad to them and they will always be our children. We have raised them from birth and they will always be our kids.
Michael could have had a 100 plastic surgerys and i couldn't care less... It's his life and his skin...
Famous or nonfamous people lies everyday... IMO
@Happy Feet i agree
And i think it is important to debate the children... because, again, if we believe the hoax then we are believing that he would leave his children.
I think you rasing the question of the kids is in actual fact more to do with their ages than anything else. Prince and Paris are big now and soon will be grown up and Blanket of course will look up to them and Paris seems like a little Mother to him so I think in view of this he felt able to leave them as long as needs be in the care of his Mother. He is probably in touch with them every day and is much harder to leave little ones-after all, how many teenagers like to sit with their parents? Older kids nowadays are very independant and like to do their own thing. IMO this is possibly why he has waited until now to do the hoax-he was a broken man in 05 but probably waited until the children were older, could understand and more able to cope without him for a while.
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i do on the other hand think the kids are fully aware of what is going on.. maybe except blanket who thinks he's on vacation.. and him cryin was just pressure of only being 7 and infront of the world.. <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->
so as for the hoax he's just tellin a rather large porky.. and only decieving the ones who are willing to be decieved.. smoke an mirrors comes to mind.. patience an endurance is the key.. i think were learning that the hard way in some cases.. <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
The best answer to how many surgeries have you had would have been - Too Many!
He did not do himself any favours by telling lies.
I think thats the point i am trying to make, although i am confusing myself. lol
If MJ had just said "no comment" or "i wont answer that" or just told the truth, then it would have been better for him as by lying he created mistrust and i think that mistrust continued with his molestation trial because a lot of people thought "he has lied in the past so he can lie again now". Know what i mean? From the laymans point of view, who doesnt really know the finer details, i could see how that worked against him.
Sometimes i have wondered whether he knew that he was lying and being deliberately confusing and evasive.. and he did that on purpose to seem more mysterious and elusive. <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) -->
ANY answer Michael would of given (whether it was 'no comment' or 'i wont answer that' or the truth) would of been spun into sensationalism, so either way, he would of been in a no-win situation.
As for Blanket, I don't know if any of you recognised this, but back after the minor accident with the paps (when they hit one of the security cars), Blanket went MIA for 3 weeks. No photos or outings caught by anyone. When he finally did emerge after those 3 weeks he was a happy little boy <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> .... maybe had some time away with Daddy???? 3 weeks was a long time for him to not be seen in public. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
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I'm thinking that MJ did that to throw people off because it is NO ONES business who that childs mother is, how many surgeries hes had. Who gives a damn?!
......he did that to throw people off his trail, because they have no business being on it in the first place.
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verywell said, happy feet
couldnt be more agree
hes human after all..