Again: I know FOR SURE that TS is TS_comments. TS asked me to activate the account, the IP addresses match and <!-- m -->http://www.thisisalsoit.com<!-- m --> is redirecting to TS_comments. How much more do you need?
And yes, TS can have two accounts. He probably has a reason for it and he was so nice to ASK me. Why is that such an issue? Do you want more than one account? Why? Is that necessary? I don't think so. For TS apparently was necessary, plus he nicely asked and promised not to sell viagra, so he can have two accounts. I don't see the problem, but if some of you have a problem with it, you can rant in here: <!-- l -->viewtopic.php?f=60&t=18198<!-- l --> but don't expect me to reply.
<!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> that's what he/she said? that made my day
hmmmmmmmmmm.......so we're all following a mad man ?
OK, why you say this?
You think TS has more than 2 accounts ?
Or you meant this as a joke?
Could be a mad woman? <!-- s:P -->:P<!-- s:P -->
But no I didn't mean it as if 'TS' is crazy... just sometimes feels like it's more than one person adding to the posts. I don't mind if anyone has multiple accounts/names wasn't even thinking about that at all actually.
Carry on <!-- s:ugeek: -->:ugeek:<!-- s:ugeek: -->
This is kind of weird, for me, as I didn't know other people felt like a different person was adding "comments" in the one user name. I won't elaborate on how --you guys feel it, yourselves. But,
Well, what real difference does it make in public forum, as long as they ARE an agent authorized by MJ to say the things said? Even a great magician can't be everywhere at once...TS could very well have asked Souza nice for another account, under the same IP address, and she would NEVER know, if he doesn't choose to say, whether it is him only or MANY people on his staff, crafting comments there, as long as it is from the same IP.
I don't even have a problem with him/her being a madman or evil genius, as long as I am not being played for his amusement, like a cheap violin, as if I have no human heart. I don't give out my personal info, so even if he is a predator, he'll never find me.
But, PM is different. I wrote to someone here, in 2009, who, not only wrote differently, but was a different person, EVERY TIME they wrote to me. We weren't discussing the mysteries of Life or anything which will matter, even next year, but it mattered to me, and I wasted my TIME writing to someone who didn't only disregard that I may have had feelings (ASSuming I was too young to notice??), but passed me around the room, to anyone who wasn't other wise occupied. <!-- s:( -->:(<!-- s:( -->
When I PM someone, anyone, it is for friendly discussion, information, some laughs, and because I wanted to speak with someone interesting, off the grid. It is the loneliest feeling, to know THEY aren't there because they LEFT and I have been talking to myself.
But worse than that, is that, THEY seemed to want to talk to me, too. Each of the new strangers were nice enough---just...a stranger again. I didn't know what to do with this. No one can carry on a conversation like that!!
I indulged the whole gang, and played along for a while, to wait for the punchline,(or Candid Camera), but it NEVER came. <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
My mother told me not to waste my time writing to people I don't know (like celebrities), as little girls do, because all that mail is handled by staff. Mr. Wonderful is too busy. Some employee who hates their job, (cuz Mr. W. doesn't have time for them, either), signs and sends the studio pix out to fans.
But, I didn't believe my mom. <!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: --> Someone with <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> <!-- s:P -->:P<!-- s:P --> those kind eyes wouldn't give my love letter to some goon! So I sent him a poem. (No, it wasn't MJ---he scared the $#@! out of me then, showing his teeth in some primal scream, all those Biker buckles, and shaking it. Intimidating overrode Cute. At THAT time. <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> )
Anyway, I wasn't even asking for anything, but some stranger sent me a fugly hat. Not even a note. This was cold. And it felt just like this every time a different person PMd me from that account, in 2009, which I am telling you about...
Like I was being patronized.
Now, I said all that, just to remind you, that you never know who you are talking to, especially in PM, where you are alone with your new friend. It could be the media, and as of today, I realize even FBI, watching this site. Yeah, that long ago, FBI---except I swear two of the false friend responses I got were young men. The whole incident was bizarre. And creepy. Just saying.
So, like I said, I don't care if TS or MJ or anyone else has seven twisted personalities, and as many accounts publicly. Everyone is masked on the Internet, we have NO expectation of honesty here. And this IS some kind of a game, out here. So, I don't think it matters, except in PM. Have fun and Be Safe.
@ItsHer........
I have a problem with people opening more than one account and acting like they are another person.
Why would they do it, except for playing and deceiving ? Oh, or verifying informations ......
It's too much for me.
Now I became paranoid enough to start thinking that maybe we are watched not only by TMZ (who probvably have a very good time seeing our comments on their articles) but maybe by FBI too.
:talking to Michael's ghost: what you did to me Michael ?!?!?!??!?!?!
But, PM is different. I wrote to someone here, in 2009, who, not only wrote differently, but was a different person, EVERY TIME they wrote to me. We weren't discussing the mysteries of Life or anything which will matter, even next year, but it mattered to me, and I wasted my TIME writing to someone who didn't only disregard that I may have had feelings (ASSuming I was too young to notice??), but passed me around the room, to anyone who wasn't other wise occupied. <!-- s:( -->:(<!-- s:( -->
I also got pm´s. In my case, they were asking me things that I could not give answers to. Some made no sense and I wondered why they contacted me and asked me. I guess those people asked many members the same questions as well.
Also I remember pm´s from now banned members which I believe was the same person but using different alias.
When I PM someone, anyone, it is for friendly discussion, information, some laughs, and because I wanted to speak with someone interesting, off the grid. It is the loneliest feeling, to know THEY aren't there because they LEFT and I have been talking to myself.
But worse than that, is that, THEY seemed to want to talk to me, too. Each of the new strangers were nice enough---just...a stranger again. I didn't know what to do with this. No one can carry on a conversation like that!!
I indulged the whole gang, and played along for a while, to wait for the punchline,(or Candid Camera), but it NEVER came. <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
Do you mean that the member you chatted with are not here any longer?
Now, I said all that, just to remind you, that you never know who you are talking to, especially in PM, where you are alone with your new friend. It could be the media, and as of today, I realize even FBI, watching this site. Yeah, that long ago, FBI---except I swear two of the false friend responses I got were young men. The whole incident was bizarre. And creepy. Just saying.
Sorry to hear that. It could have been worst. I know about some members who were lied in such a way that some got almost depressed and their lifes could have been taken extreme directions.
The people pretending to be MJ had no limits nor mercy with those they chatted with.
I can tell that I tried myself to help them, but they were not willing to tell me where they met in chats or the email addresses of "MJ". At this point, idk if they didn´t to "keep the romance for themselves" and avoid competition or because the fake MJ was manipulative enough to put people against each other. However, the fakers were not wise enough either and at the end were traceable by other people who were more attentive.
What? <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> Are you saying people pretending to be MJ have PMd members? I'm floored, and obviously very naive - why would someone even think of doing such a mean thing?
What? <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> Are you saying people pretending to be MJ have PMd members? I'm floored, and obviously very naive - why would someone even think of doing such a mean thing?
IDK if they pm´d here, but some members did leave the door open to "what if" after some chat sessions with "PIM" as an example. PIM is no longer a member.
My post was an observation of how things have been between fans since MJ "died". Many people gathered around and played with each other. It became a fashion to be MJ, steal identities, avatars, alias, even IP´s and create chaos in general. Some people even hacked in to each others systems or emails.
This made me think about MJ´s world, the fan community and I understood clearly why Michael would trust less and less people around him.
Not only he had leeches in the real world, looks like the virtual world was not as safe either.
But, PM is different. I wrote to someone here, in 2009, who, not only wrote differently, but was a different person, EVERY TIME they wrote to me. We weren't discussing the mysteries of Life or anything which will matter, even next year, but it mattered to me, and I wasted my TIME writing to someone who didn't only disregard that I may have had feelings (ASSuming I was too young to notice??), but passed me around the room, to anyone who wasn't other wise occupied. <!-- s:( -->:(<!-- s:( -->
I also got pm´s. In my case, they were asking me things that I could not give answers to. Some made no sense and I wondered why they contacted me and asked me. I guess those people asked many members the same questions as well.
What kinds of questions which you couldn't answer? About the hoax?
That is bizarre, especially since everyone here is free to speak their minds all over here, out in the open...why would someone quiz you privately? Sounds like time for the snake alert siren! <!-- s --><!-- s -->
Also I remember pm´s from now banned members which I believe was the same person but using different alias.
Well...I think people are banned for being MJ haters or hurters. The real MJ probably has people reading here, and they KNOW the fakers are not him, so they tell the Admin. and Mods. Gong! Banned. <!-- s:P -->:P<!-- s:P --> If MJ, himself were here, lurking under a bunch of fake names, how would Admin. know who to ban as fake? <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
Do you mean that the member you chatted with are not here any longer?
Yes, none of them are here. They were finished in 2009. They may be, as you say, pretending to be MJ with other fans here, under a new name---but I didn't get that impression myself. The first responder was very nice, I thought, a lady. She said she could not say if she knew MJ or if he was alive. I said I didn't care, I know he is alive. The next person who wrote to me, acted as if the truth was all out, MJ is alive, but this writer can't tell me anything else, except he can't come back because of all those suicides over him. <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> Those suicides were as bogus as his own death.
When I said "creepy" before, I meant that these felt to me like they were spys from the press, trying to feel me out. I never got the impression any of them were MJ. Anyway, he CAN'T come here and PM people. He is supposed to be dead. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> He's running a huge <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> Hoax, and now we hear he may be involved in something really scary and tricky---requiring all his concentration... <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o -->
And why would he PM girls here, when last we heard he was mussing up TWO women in the back of a car <!-- s:P -->:P<!-- s:P --> ? A lot of girls on the site want to hope or believe they are or have been speaking with him, but, I think it is just more Michael Jackson smoke and mirrors. He's playing to "Hope springs eternal...and all that". He KNOWS how to get to a gal. He is a shameless flirt. One has only to watch him on stage to know he is dangerous. <!-- s --><!-- s -->
The internet is the perfect medium in which to be taken advantage of.
I can tell that I tried myself to help them, but they were not willing to tell me where they met in chats or the email addresses of "MJ". At this point, idk if they didn´t to "keep the romance for themselves" and avoid competition or because the fake MJ was manipulative enough to put people against each other. However, the fakers were not wise enough either and at the end were traceable by other people who were more attentive.
You can't keep romance to yourself. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> Your joy oozes out of every pore. If someone is asking you to lay low, and keep your relationship a secret, he's doing the SAME thing with another girl---probably five of them, and he does not want y'all to get together! <!-- s --><!-- s -->
<!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> I HOPE none of the <!-- s:geek: -->:geek:<!-- s:geek: --> investigators here are that silly. <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
The questions were about some members I never heard about and also asking me how to crack a password <!-- s --><!-- s --> I mean, little moi <!-- s --><!-- s --> the only thing I can crack are nuts and and not even that <!-- s --><!-- s --> I buy them shell free.
The questions were about some members I never heard about and also asking me how to crack a password <!-- s --><!-- s --> I mean, little moi <!-- s --><!-- s --> the only thing I can crack are nuts and and not even that <!-- s --><!-- s --> I buy them shell free.
The questions were about some members I never heard about and also asking me how to crack a password <!-- s --><!-- s --> I mean, little moi <!-- s --><!-- s --> the only thing I can crack are nuts and and not even that <!-- s --><!-- s --> I buy them shell free.
Gema, THAT is SOOOOOOOOO darn CREEPY. <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> Did you ever ask Souza about this, or report them? Perhaps they were just playing with your head, because you appear to be so smart here, and they wanted to shake you up, or scare you? Or, maybe someone testing your trustworthiness? When I first came here, people would ask me privately, who I was, if I was "so and so" on another forum, etc. Anonymity makes people paranoid sometimes. And it should, at least make us cautious. <!-- s:| -->:|<!-- s:| -->
The questions were about some members I never heard about and also asking me how to crack a password <!-- s --><!-- s --> I mean, little moi <!-- s --><!-- s --> the only thing I can crack are nuts and and not even that <!-- s --><!-- s --> I buy them shell free.
Gema, THAT is SOOOOOOOOO darn CREEPY. <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> Did you ever ask Souza about this, or report them? Perhaps they were just playing with your head, because you appear to be so smart here, and they wanted to shake you up, or scare you? Or, maybe someone testing your trustworthiness? When I first came here, people would ask me privately, who I was, if I was "so and so" on another forum, etc. Anonymity makes people paranoid sometimes. And it should, at least make us cautious. <!-- s:| -->:|<!-- s:| -->
Perhaps they were just playing with your head, because you appear to be so smart here, and they wanted to shake you up, or scare you? Or, maybe someone testing your trustworthiness?
I mentioned many times how hopeless I am with computers, so the smart guess is not part of the plan. To me, their reasons still reminds as a mystery. Surely, I was not the right person to contact.
When I first came here, people would ask me privately, who I was, if I was "so and so" on another forum, etc. Anonymity makes people paranoid sometimes. And it should, at least make us cautious. <!-- s:| -->:|<!-- s:| -->
are you guys laughing at me <!-- s:evil: -->:evil:<!-- s:evil: --> <!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: --> or with me <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
are you guys laughing at me <!-- s:evil: -->:evil:<!-- s:evil: --> <!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: --> or with me <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
I wasn't laughing---until that (hysterical)"hypnotist" Emoticon came up. I think you could be right!! (To trick people into giving up THEIR password, and gain access to the site completely anonymously, without even Admin. knowing who they are.)
Aw man! Why do people think up and be creepy in the middle of a fun place? <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
wowowowow what a huge and detailed post!!! I can't wait for the group to get ahold of this info. To me, I'm now wondering how much of TS info got to be correct. How they seemed to have inside info and actually be correct. You obviously did A LOT of work here, so thank you. Tell me how you think that TS's observations ended up being right so often. I'm NOT saying I ever once believed "him", but it did "appear" to come off as right a lot.
are you guys laughing at me <!-- s:evil: -->:evil:<!-- s:evil: --> <!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: --> or with me <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
I wasn't laughing---until that (hysterical)"hypnotist" Emoticon came up. I think you could be right!! (To trick people into giving up THEIR password, and gain access to the site completely anonymously, without even Admin. knowing who they are.)
Aw man! Why do people think up and be creepy in the middle of a fun place? <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
Gema and her smiley's keep me in stiches too <!-- s --><!-- s -->
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Well, what real difference does it make in public forum, as long as they ARE an agent authorized by MJ to say the things said? Even a great magician can't be everywhere at once...TS could very well have asked Souza nice for another account, under the same IP address, and she would NEVER know, if he doesn't choose to say, whether it is him only or MANY people on his staff, crafting comments there, as long as it is from the same IP.
I don't even have a problem with him/her being a madman or evil genius, as long as I am not being played for his amusement, like a cheap violin, as if I have no human heart. I don't give out my personal info, so even if he is a predator, he'll never find me.
But, PM is different. I wrote to someone here, in 2009, who, not only wrote differently, but was a different person, EVERY TIME they wrote to me. We weren't discussing the mysteries of Life or anything which will matter, even next year, but it mattered to me, and I wasted my TIME writing to someone who didn't only disregard that I may have had feelings (ASSuming I was too young to notice??), but passed me around the room, to anyone who wasn't other wise occupied. <!-- s:( -->:(<!-- s:( -->
When I PM someone, anyone, it is for friendly discussion, information, some laughs, and because I wanted to speak with someone interesting, off the grid. It is the loneliest feeling, to know THEY aren't there because they LEFT and I have been talking to myself.
But worse than that, is that, THEY seemed to want to talk to me, too. Each of the new strangers were nice enough---just...a stranger again. I didn't know what to do with this. No one can carry on a conversation like that!!
I indulged the whole gang, and played along for a while, to wait for the punchline,(or Candid Camera), but it NEVER came. <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
My mother told me not to waste my time writing to people I don't know (like celebrities), as little girls do, because all that mail is handled by staff. Mr. Wonderful is too busy. Some employee who hates their job, (cuz Mr. W. doesn't have time for them, either), signs and sends the studio pix out to fans.
But, I didn't believe my mom. <!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: --> Someone with <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> <!-- s:P -->:P<!-- s:P --> those kind eyes wouldn't give my love letter to some goon! So I sent him a poem. (No, it wasn't MJ---he scared the $#@! out of me then, showing his teeth in some primal scream, all those Biker buckles, and shaking it. Intimidating overrode Cute. At THAT time. <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> )
Anyway, I wasn't even asking for anything, but some stranger sent me a fugly hat. Not even a note. This was cold. And it felt just like this every time a different person PMd me from that account, in 2009, which I am telling you about...
Like I was being patronized.
Now, I said all that, just to remind you, that you never know who you are talking to, especially in PM, where you are alone with your new friend. It could be the media, and as of today, I realize even FBI, watching this site. Yeah, that long ago, FBI---except I swear two of the false friend responses I got were young men. The whole incident was bizarre. And creepy. Just saying.
So, like I said, I don't care if TS or MJ or anyone else has seven twisted personalities, and as many accounts publicly. Everyone is masked on the Internet, we have NO expectation of honesty here. And this IS some kind of a game, out here. So, I don't think it matters, except in PM. Have fun and Be Safe.
I have a problem with people opening more than one account and acting like they are another person.
Why would they do it, except for playing and deceiving ? Oh, or verifying informations ......
It's too much for me.
Now I became paranoid enough to start thinking that maybe we are watched not only by TMZ (who probvably have a very good time seeing our comments on their articles) but maybe by FBI too.
:talking to Michael's ghost: what you did to me Michael ?!?!?!??!?!?!
Not viagra in this forum, that´s for sure <!-- s
I also got pm´s. In my case, they were asking me things that I could not give answers to. Some made no sense and I wondered why they contacted me and asked me. I guess those people asked many members the same questions as well.
Also I remember pm´s from now banned members which I believe was the same person but using different alias.
Do you mean that the member you chatted with are not here any longer?
Sorry to hear that. It could have been worst. I know about some members who were lied in such a way that some got almost depressed and their lifes could have been taken extreme directions.
The people pretending to be MJ had no limits nor mercy with those they chatted with.
I can tell that I tried myself to help them, but they were not willing to tell me where they met in chats or the email addresses of "MJ". At this point, idk if they didn´t to "keep the romance for themselves" and avoid competition or because the fake MJ was manipulative enough to put people against each other. However, the fakers were not wise enough either and at the end were traceable by other people who were more attentive.
IDK if they pm´d here, but some members did leave the door open to "what if" after some chat sessions with "PIM" as an example. PIM is no longer a member.
My post was an observation of how things have been between fans since MJ "died". Many people gathered around and played with each other. It became a fashion to be MJ, steal identities, avatars, alias, even IP´s and create chaos in general. Some people even hacked in to each others systems or emails.
This made me think about MJ´s world, the fan community and I understood clearly why Michael would trust less and less people around him.
Not only he had leeches in the real world, looks like the virtual world was not as safe either.
You can't keep romance to yourself. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> Your joy oozes out of every pore. If someone is asking you to lay low, and keep your relationship a secret, he's doing the SAME thing with another girl---probably five of them, and he does not want y'all to get together! <!-- s
<!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> I HOPE none of the <!-- s:geek: -->:geek:<!-- s:geek: --> investigators here are that silly. <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
Snake alert, snake alert, SNAKE ALERT <!-- s:!: -->:!:<!-- s:!: -->
Gema, THAT is SOOOOOOOOO darn CREEPY. <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> Did you ever ask Souza about this, or report them? Perhaps they were just playing with your head, because you appear to be so smart here, and they wanted to shake you up, or scare you? Or, maybe someone testing your trustworthiness? When I first came here, people would ask me privately, who I was, if I was "so and so" on another forum, etc. Anonymity makes people paranoid sometimes. And it should, at least make us cautious. <!-- s:| -->:|<!-- s:| -->
But,THAT is really creepy, Gema. <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> Sheeesh!
Now that you're all distracted, what are your passwords??
I mentioned many times how hopeless I am with computers, so the smart guess is not part of the plan. To me, their reasons still reminds as a mystery. Surely, I was not the right person to contact.
I guess that all the trolling around is what makes people not to trust who is behind the screen.
What´s yours dear?
Aw man! Why do people think up and be creepy in the middle of a fun place? <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
If we see the hours when TS usually posts - he had to be US located.
Were you in the chatroom when he was there so you could see his ip?
All is based on that IP isn't it?
What if someone else joined the chatroom pretending to be TS?
Gema and her smiley's keep me in stiches too <!-- s