When people talk about the "BAM" , looks like a celebration for something, in this case MJ´s comeback.
Celebrating Michael every day it´s the best BAM.
TS´s redirect looks like he/ she does not know when the comeback (in flesh I believe..), if any or ever, is going to happen...he is being honest at last <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
I know nothing! I can guess, speculate, wish, imagine ... but I know nothing for certain about what goes on in MJ's mind.
I feel we're just treading water here - being kept afloat by TIAI's (almost) daily redirects, and the odd TMZ article. What're we waiting for? A 'bam' that may happen this year, next year, sometime, never? And who's to say what would constitute a 'bam' anyway? As I say, I know nothing except that I'm still working on the '(wo)man in the mirror, and that's not as easy as it at first seems.
MJ will BAM. I am convinced of this. This hoax has been too highly thought out not to be all tied up. For starters, if Mike only wanted a life away from the spotlight, he could easily have made his "death" totally seem real and added RIP on This is It and leave out any hint of a bam. But He hasn't and there has been a trail of clues for us to follow all the way from the O2 announcement. However, I think there are too many projects in the works for Mike to bam at the moment. Perhaps the whole court case with Dr Murray will first need to be played out. There is also the release of Mike's alleged "posthumus" album out in November and the game for the Christmas market along with the Fated comic book. What if Mike is not planning to bam until the Cirque shows in Vegas. I hope this is not what Mike was talking about when He said we have 4 years to get it right.
Option 2: There is a part of me that thinks he has this one date in mind since he started planning this. If he is really such a perfectionist, he must have this perfect bamdate planned in advance as well. Probably impossible for us to find out, but that would make it even more perfect. In this case TS' predictions of possible bamdates are either a test for us to see if we will keep the faith no matter what, or Mike simply is the only one who knows the date.
I have been leaning towards the thinking in this Option for a long time now Souza <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
My intuition tells me that MJ has had the perfect date for a BAM planned long ago. It seems to fit with the entire precise planning of this whole hoax when you look back at the dates and timing of significant events (as TS has also discussed) eg the "death", The Memorial, the Funeral, the release of This is It, the dates for Dr M's court appearances etc etc.
My thinking is the entire thing is just all too well planned for MJ not to already have a BAM date. I also think he is most likely the only person who knows the date. Maybe it was the same with his "death day" - perhaps his family knew it was going to happen...they just didn't know when.
100% agree with you Adi <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> I'm sure that he planned an exact date for the return as well but probably he changed due to some circumstances. I don't know. But for someone who arranged everything so perfectly, I believe that he planned the comeback date too. And I think Michael is the only one who knows about the date of the BAM. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
Sarahli I am like my faith is unshakable, and nobody knows what you think Michael, what are we expose all theories, perhaps the curls a bit desperate, I do not think TS are playing with us, I think it would be a bit cruel to play with the feelings of the people in this way, if everything you said TS was a lie, how long they could keep?
The philosophy of let things flow not only is useful before decisions, but also when we enfretamos problems or situations that do not occur as expected.
In other words, not forcing decisions not obliged to accept what we chose in a time of pressure, but wait time to accommodate things.
I don't think that we should consider the option 3 because the entire hoax wouldn't make sense anymore. If Michael doesn't bam it must be because of a very tragic situation but I believe that God is on Michael's side and will protect him so that he can accomplish his mission. I am 100% certain of a bam.
I've been thinking about the BAM a lot lately. I thought if we understood that BAM scene wrong. You know, he says "Let me bathe in my own time".. Maybe he wanted to say "Let me live my own life" and that's it. I also thought maybe he only wanted to let us know that he is alive and that's the only reason why he left clues. BUT afterall I don't believe he did this hoax to hide from the paps and public. Remember when he stayed in Ireland, nobody, no paps could find him. If he wanted to live away from the media awareness, he would stay and live in Ireland or elsewhere. But he returned to Las Vegas, went to watch some Magic Shows and Circusses and arranged a Come Back! All of this huge plan doesn't fit for just a simple hiding. And if he doesn't come back, to me that definitely means he's gone for real. I can not find any other explanation.
Sarahli I am like my faith is unshakable, and nobody knows what you think Michael, what are we expose all theories, perhaps the curls a bit desperate, I do not think TS are playing with us, I think it would be a bit cruel to play with the feelings of the people in this way, if everything you said TS was a lie, how long they could keep?
The philosophy of let things flow not only is useful before decisions, but also when we enfretamos problems or situations that do not occur as expected.
In other words, not forcing decisions not obliged to accept what we chose in a time of pressure, but wait time to accommodate things.
i agree, paula. perhaps MJ had planned for a date and perhaps the day may even have already passed because things were not ready, or because MJ decides to postpone it due to surrounding circumstances. we can only speculate, but there is no point in it because we won't know the truth until it is revealed to us.
whatever the circumstance is, i have faith that God is overseeing everything and leading MJ in this. we must continue to keep the faith and love during uncertain periods, and not let doubt shroud our minds. With God on our side, we can be certain that things will unfold perfectly before our eyes <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
Recruiting Soldiers for Michael’s Army of L.O.V.E.
Please post at least your support for Michael’s Army of L.O.V.E. And additionally, entirely voluntarily, you can mention specifics that you are willing to do: starting with the “Man in the Mirror”, make that “change”; maybe a New Year’s resolution. And then go beyond yourself, and reach out to others, joining together in helping to “Heal the World”. This is Michael’s message; This Is It.
We were asked to join Michael’s Army of L.O.V.E.
Mind - not Murray's Army of L.O.V.E., not Arnie Klein's Army of L.O.V.E., not Jermaine's Army of L.O.V.E., but Michael's Army of L.O.V.E.
Why would it be called Michael's Army of L.O.V.E. if he's not going to BAM and take the lead of his army? That doesn't make any sense at all.
Could be that his army would be acting in his name - spreading awakening, awareness and hope to people, the way he did. We can do that now, regardless of whether he comes back physically as a leader. We're always talking here about how it's the message that's important, not the Bam, yet suddenly Bam seems to have become very important.
I wonder what it is people think MJ is going to do as leader of this army, that he hasn't already done. I'm not making a fuss, I really want to know! Maybe we are giving him a role he may not have planned for or want. Maybe he thinks he's done enough and is handing it over to the rest of the world - and to God. Has TS ever said MJ is coming back to lead his army? I don't recall reading that. Please show me if I've missed it.
And to ask again what I said earlier - what do people think constitutes a bam? Does it necessarily mean him coming back into the public eye, interviews, photos, actually seeing him again in the flesh? Or would incontrovertible evidence to the whole world of him still being alive, but remaining 'hidden' be sufficient?
I still think we're not using our time wisely - if we're still waiting for someone to tell us what to do maybe we're not fully thinking for ourselves yet. Just a thought.
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
I still think we're not using our time wisely - if we're still waiting for someone to tell us what to do maybe we're not fully thinking for ourselves yet. Just a thought.
Funny you say that... here's a post I just added to my blog - Point 2 pertains more to what you were saying...
There are two things TS said that have been on my mind lately:
1. From Update #4, section 4-37 (March 14, 2010)
For starters, maybe it is time to create a sub-forum for Coherent Theories. By this, I mean theories that start putting all the pieces together, fitting into one bigger picture. But we can’t have MJ hopping on a plane at LAX, escaping out of a tunnel in the basement of UCLA, and riding alive in the helicopter to the coroner’s office, as well as in the other helicopter—all at the same time. This would not qualify as a coherent theory.
2. From Update #5, section 5-11 (May 20, 2010)
“Think 4 your Self” quiz.
NOTE: M, S, & F questions are primarily for non-believers (or those who are wavering); the rest of the questions are for believers, especially those who don’t know about or don’t agree with the TIAI reasons for the hoax.
Michael:
M1. After watching MJ videos including Thriller and Ghosts: is there any reason why MJ would not have thought to do a real life Thriller—especially since he was married to LMP, and the Elvis hoax death theory is very well known?
M2. If MJ did plan a hoax death, is there any time that would fit better with a full moon (Thriller) and 777 than: 6-25-09 death (77 days to 9-9-09), 7-7-09 memorial (full moon & 7 years from will), 9-3-09 burial (7 days to 9-9-09, & almost full moon), and all the other numerology?
M3. Being a big fan of old movies, and also choosing to remake Gilda in TII: it’s not possible that MJ was unaware of Mundson/Macready faking his death in Gilda (and also sharing MJ’s birthday). So if MJ was not planning on faking his death: would he be so cruel as to include Gilda in TII, and make his fans think he was planning a hoax death when in reality he was not?
Statistics:
S1. Even if MJ was unaware of the hoax death in Gilda: what are the chances that he accidentally did a remake of a fake death by an actor sharing his own birthday?
S2. What are the odds that all the hoax numerology and timing is merely coincidence (and show your calculations, not just your answer)?
S3. Things which occur randomly, and are not planned, will happen more than once. So can you give at least one example of a similar death timing, that happened by chance—where the timing repeatedly fit with specific three-digit and/or four-digit numbers (not single-digit numbers), numbers that were emphasized by that same person before the death (hint: neither Elvis nor 2pac come anywhere close)?
Family:
F1. From the death to the burial more than two months later, why did we never see a single tear shed from a single family member (not even Paris, in her touching speech at the memorial)? And why did the children looked bored at the memorial? And why did the adults all wear dark glasses (so that we could not see the tears, or not see the lack of tears)?
F2. Are we to believe that MJ’s own family is ignorant of his role in the Liberian Girl video? And if not, then why did they allow Liberian Girl pictures to dominate both the memorial and the burial? Would they be so cruel, as to send fans the message that he is hiding behind the camera and running The Show—if in reality MJ was actually dead???
F3. Why was the burial delayed for a world-record longest time? And why did the family schedule it for 9-3-09: unless it had to do with the 7 days to 9-9-09, and the full moon (on 9-4-09)?
EOW:
E1. If the numerology and timing is not a coincidence (see M2 & S2): then why was the 911 call placed immediately at 12:21, unless it was to show that one of the main reasons for the hoax is to warn about the end of the world (that it’s near—even if it’s not at the end of the Mayan calendar, 2012)?
E2. Why did MJ specifically mention four more years in TII, unless he was referring to 2012 (and also the Sony movie with “Jackson” in it, etc)?
E3. MJ reads the Bible daily; and according to it, there will be an end to this world—and that end will come prior to the “new earth” (see Revelation 21:1; etc). The memorial program actually mentioned that MJ looks forward to the new earth. With these things in mind, how is it possible that the end of the world is not part of MJ’s message?
NWO:
N1. Also in the Bible, a one-world government/religion is prophesied to rise near the end of the world (see Revelation 17; etc). So if MJ’s message includes warning about the end of the world, how is it possible that his message does not also include a warning about the New World Order?
N2. If MJ does not believe in conspiracies from secret societies and our own governments: then why did he say that the grassy knoll is “truth” (Tabloid Junkie), and who does “they” refer to in TDRCAU (with the pyramid and eye, etc)?
N3. Who is behind the “conspiracy” that MJ was talking about, when he mentioned that our history books have been changed?
Bam:
B1. If MJ never does bam: how is he going to succeed in getting the main messages (EOW, NWO, etc) to the billions in the world?
B2. If you accept the clues which show that MJ is alive: then why don’t you accept that the very same clues (in many cases) also show that he will be back (bam)?
B3. TIAI says that there will be a bamsday, the only question is when. So is this reliable (if you say no, then please answer T1, T2, & T3, next)?
TIAI:
T1. How did TS end up with the <!-- m -->http://www.ThisIsAlsoIt.com<!-- m --> domain? If you say it was just a coincidence, then what are the odds (how many other MJ fans are there, including non-believers, who could’ve bought that domain after the Huffington Post article came out)?
T2. If TS is merely a hoax investigator, without any special source for hoax information: then why for nearly a year now did nobody else figure out the seven layers in “THIS IS IT” (as well as most of the other numerology and timing—777, 999, 1776, 1998, etc)?
T3. Can you explain all 18 in 5-12, below? And if you say that they are all coincidences: then can you demonstrate that you understand how to calculate the statistics, and show your calculations for the odds of all 18 by chance (like I did above, with 12:21:04 for the 911 call)?
So have we come up with any coherent theories and can we all say that we could pass the quiz?
I’ll be the first to say I haven’t done either and so that’s probably why it’s been on my mind.
I don’t know, I may just be bringing up stuff that was covered previously but that is no longer relevant….
I personally commit to doing both of these things for myself hopefully by this week.
Could be that his army would be acting in his name - spreading awakening, awareness and hope to people, the way he did. We can do that now, regardless of whether he comes back physically as a leader. We're always talking here about how it's the message that's important, not the Bam, yet suddenly Bam seems to have become very important.
Well I'm sorry, but spreading awakening, awareness and hope "the way he did" didn't work really well, did it? How many fans picked up on his real message before his 'death'? How many people STILL oppose his message, even after is has been spelled out? Many many people will not believe it unless he himself spells it out to them.
I wonder what it is people think MJ is going to do as leader of this army, that he hasn't already done. I'm not making a fuss, I really want to know! Maybe we are giving him a role he may not have planned for or want. Maybe he thinks he's done enough and is handing it over to the rest of the world - and to God. Has TS ever said MJ is coming back to lead his army? I don't recall reading that. Please show me if I've missed it.
And to ask again what I said earlier - what do people think constitutes a bam? Does it necessarily mean him coming back into the public eye, interviews, photos, actually seeing him again in the flesh? Or would incontrovertible evidence to the whole world of him still being alive, but remaining 'hidden' be sufficient?
How else do you expect people to believe that he didn't die after they have been 100% sure for over a year that he's dead? Just another TMZ article won't do, people will want to see him. Seeing is believing.
I still think we're not using our time wisely - if we're still waiting for someone to tell us what to do maybe we're not fully thinking for ourselves yet. Just a thought.
Well, if you have a better idea to make the whole world aware of what is really going on and that is has to stop, then I'd like you to post it. Every person I talk to I bring the subject up, very subtle, to test their reaction. In case I get a respond, I will go on but in 90% of the time people look at me like I'm someone who is in desperate need of mental care. That doesn't mean I give up, but it's not like I'm making a lot of progress in spreading the message. If we only have less than three years left, I don't think it will be mission accomplished by the time those three years end.
I still think we're not using our time wisely - if we're still waiting for someone to tell us what to do maybe we're not fully thinking for ourselves yet. Just a thought.
Funny you say that... here's a post I just added to my blog - Point 2 pertains more to what you were saying...
There are two things TS said that have been on my mind lately:
1. From Update #4, section 4-37 (March 14, 2010)
For starters, maybe it is time to create a sub-forum for Coherent Theories. By this, I mean theories that start putting all the pieces together, fitting into one bigger picture. But we can’t have MJ hopping on a plane at LAX, escaping out of a tunnel in the basement of UCLA, and riding alive in the helicopter to the coroner’s office, as well as in the other helicopter—all at the same time. This would not qualify as a coherent theory.
2. From Update #5, section 5-11 (May 20, 2010)
“Think 4 your Self” quiz.
NOTE: M, S, & F questions are primarily for non-believers (or those who are wavering); the rest of the questions are for believers, especially those who don’t know about or don’t agree with the TIAI reasons for the hoax.
Michael:
M1. After watching MJ videos including Thriller and Ghosts: is there any reason why MJ would not have thought to do a real life Thriller—especially since he was married to LMP, and the Elvis hoax death theory is very well known?
M2. If MJ did plan a hoax death, is there any time that would fit better with a full moon (Thriller) and 777 than: 6-25-09 death (77 days to 9-9-09), 7-7-09 memorial (full moon & 7 years from will), 9-3-09 burial (7 days to 9-9-09, & almost full moon), and all the other numerology?
M3. Being a big fan of old movies, and also choosing to remake Gilda in TII: it’s not possible that MJ was unaware of Mundson/Macready faking his death in Gilda (and also sharing MJ’s birthday). So if MJ was not planning on faking his death: would he be so cruel as to include Gilda in TII, and make his fans think he was planning a hoax death when in reality he was not?
Statistics:
S1. Even if MJ was unaware of the hoax death in Gilda: what are the chances that he accidentally did a remake of a fake death by an actor sharing his own birthday?
S2. What are the odds that all the hoax numerology and timing is merely coincidence (and show your calculations, not just your answer)?
S3. Things which occur randomly, and are not planned, will happen more than once. So can you give at least one example of a similar death timing, that happened by chance—where the timing repeatedly fit with specific three-digit and/or four-digit numbers (not single-digit numbers), numbers that were emphasized by that same person before the death (hint: neither Elvis nor 2pac come anywhere close)?
Family:
F1. From the death to the burial more than two months later, why did we never see a single tear shed from a single family member (not even Paris, in her touching speech at the memorial)? And why did the children looked bored at the memorial? And why did the adults all wear dark glasses (so that we could not see the tears, or not see the lack of tears)?
F2. Are we to believe that MJ’s own family is ignorant of his role in the Liberian Girl video? And if not, then why did they allow Liberian Girl pictures to dominate both the memorial and the burial? Would they be so cruel, as to send fans the message that he is hiding behind the camera and running The Show—if in reality MJ was actually dead???
F3. Why was the burial delayed for a world-record longest time? And why did the family schedule it for 9-3-09: unless it had to do with the 7 days to 9-9-09, and the full moon (on 9-4-09)?
EOW:
E1. If the numerology and timing is not a coincidence (see M2 & S2): then why was the 911 call placed immediately at 12:21, unless it was to show that one of the main reasons for the hoax is to warn about the end of the world (that it’s near—even if it’s not at the end of the Mayan calendar, 2012)?
E2. Why did MJ specifically mention four more years in TII, unless he was referring to 2012 (and also the Sony movie with “Jackson” in it, etc)?
E3. MJ reads the Bible daily; and according to it, there will be an end to this world—and that end will come prior to the “new earth” (see Revelation 21:1; etc). The memorial program actually mentioned that MJ looks forward to the new earth. With these things in mind, how is it possible that the end of the world is not part of MJ’s message?
NWO:
N1. Also in the Bible, a one-world government/religion is prophesied to rise near the end of the world (see Revelation 17; etc). So if MJ’s message includes warning about the end of the world, how is it possible that his message does not also include a warning about the New World Order?
N2. If MJ does not believe in conspiracies from secret societies and our own governments: then why did he say that the grassy knoll is “truth” (Tabloid Junkie), and who does “they” refer to in TDRCAU (with the pyramid and eye, etc)?
N3. Who is behind the “conspiracy” that MJ was talking about, when he mentioned that our history books have been changed?
Bam:
B1. If MJ never does bam: how is he going to succeed in getting the main messages (EOW, NWO, etc) to the billions in the world?
B2. If you accept the clues which show that MJ is alive: then why don’t you accept that the very same clues (in many cases) also show that he will be back (bam)?
B3. TIAI says that there will be a bamsday, the only question is when. So is this reliable (if you say no, then please answer T1, T2, & T3, next)?
TIAI:
T1. How did TS end up with the <!-- m -->http://www.ThisIsAlsoIt.com<!-- m --> domain? If you say it was just a coincidence, then what are the odds (how many other MJ fans are there, including non-believers, who could’ve bought that domain after the Huffington Post article came out)?
T2. If TS is merely a hoax investigator, without any special source for hoax information: then why for nearly a year now did nobody else figure out the seven layers in “THIS IS IT” (as well as most of the other numerology and timing—777, 999, 1776, 1998, etc)?
T3. Can you explain all 18 in 5-12, below? And if you say that they are all coincidences: then can you demonstrate that you understand how to calculate the statistics, and show your calculations for the odds of all 18 by chance (like I did above, with 12:21:04 for the 911 call)?
So have we come up with any coherent theories and can we all say that we could pass the quiz?
I’ll be the first to say I haven’t done either and so that’s probably why it’s been on my mind.
I don’t know, I may just be bringing up stuff that was covered previously but that is no longer relevant….
I personally commit to doing both of these things for myself hopefully by this week.
What do you guys think?
I agree!
Each of us must have a theory fully assembled in your mind ...
So could be an open suforum with these theories, yes!
It would be great to see the point of view of each. It sure would be a great discussion!
Always remember the words of Jermaine on June 25, 2010, "died the King of Pop", and also what TS said in the update of June 17, Report this postReply with quoteTIai update #6: Michael & Elvis, DOuble-bam This Summer?!?
And when bamsday does come—whether sooner or later, there will of course be great rejoicing! But don’t expect things to just go back to entertainment as usual; as you already know, if you’ve read all the TIAI/TS posts, there will be a major battle ahead (Army of LOVE). And remember the following, from Threatened lyrics {http://www.elyrics.net/read/m/michael-jackson-lyrics/threatened-lyrics.html}: “What you have just witnessed could be the end of a particularly terrifying nightmare. It isn’t. It’s the beginning.”
How will this return for which we're in this for over a year, not for the rest of the world, his music will continue rising and people think they are unreleased tracks that were saved. I think we have to make more people understand the message, read and spread, treat others as we would like to be treated ourselves. Remember that TS is said TiAI wakeup call to see what the New World Order so you should join the army of love.
I myself dont believe this but some say hes alive but never c oming back. I hope thats not the case. I want him to return so bad. Not to us but just to be alive and well and us to ocassionally be able to see him from afar. Just to know hes ok and with his family and doing what he enjoys. I hope those who say hes not coming back are so wrong. <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
Ok...Deep breath... I have had so many "epiphany" moments in the last few days that my brain feels like it has exploded! My husband and I have both had our own personal "BAMS", this being because we have both been "awakened" to the possibility that the "impossible" now seems to be very "probable" and "logical"
I don't know how to explain this "awakening" except to say that now that I have learned to think for myself, I feel that I'm thinking on a whole new level of "consciousness."
I believe that this hoax, like everything else in life is based on "duality". We have the "entertainment" and "creative"genius side of the hoax, but there is another side to it... the "spiritual awakening" side, the message! I thought I already knew what Michael's message was, but in the last few days I have come to believe that the "message" is much deeper and it is really about us finding out our "purpose" or "reason" for being here on this earth.
TS told us to "take a look back." At first I thought he meant take a look back at all the clues here on the site, but I now know that taking a look "back", means exactly that...taking a look back to the beginning of time here on earth and also looking back at my own life. When I did this, the pieces of the puzzle all seemed to start falling into place for me. From the beginning of time, ancient civilizations have all looked to the "stars" for guidance and I now truly believe that is where we need to start in order to fully understand why we are here. I believe that once you are able to open your mind to all things being possible, then the rest will all start to make sense.
Michael has been guiding us this whole time, but if you can't get in tune with yourself, it will be hard to comprehend what the "message" is really all about.
It is really hard to explain this, but I would like to give you a link to read. Please keep an open mind when you read it.
<!-- m -->http://members.yournet.com/jobrien/desc.html<!-- m -->
When you read this link, some of you will understand right away, while others, will probably not understand it and think "whatever". You really need to "believe" that everything IS possible!
Since I have started thinking on a higher level, I have gone back and listened to the lyrics of Michael's songs and I now see a "different" message in his words. It's all about "light" "love"the "stars" the "Sun" the "Earth" the "moon" "God", "Peace" "Freedom" "History" "Invincibility" "ancient Eygypt" "RA" The "Pyramids" "Good" vs "Evil"... "The end of the world as we know it in 2012"...everything is connected and if you "think for yourself" and you "believe in the power of love" you will put the pieces together and you will understand what I am leading up to....if My husband and I are right and the power of what I am now feeling tells me we Are on the right track, then you will be amazed at what is in store for us in the near future.
TS and Michael...I truly believe with all my heart that I have found what I was looking for. So many things are happening to me that I just can't explain. All I know is that I feel an "energy" so strong, that it has lead me on this journey of "Enlightenment." Wow, what a trip!
I have to go now, but there is so much more that I need to share with you all. I honestly feel like I have been "chosen" because of my belief in Love and energy...I really do! Does anyone else feel this?
Agree with everything that Mo said! This is Michael's army of LOVE and on Michael's command we begin! It's all gonna come out people! Don't worry! The best is yet to come! Keep the faith! Michael needs us more than ever! God bless you all my friends!
Sarahli I am like my faith is unshakable, and nobody knows what you think Michael, what are we expose all theories, perhaps the curls a bit desperate, I do not think TS are playing with us, I think it would be a bit cruel to play with the feelings of the people in this way, if everything you said TS was a lie, how long they could keep?
The philosophy of let things flow not only is useful before decisions, but also when we enfretamos problems or situations that do not occur as expected.
In other words, not forcing decisions not obliged to accept what we chose in a time of pressure, but wait time to accommodate things.
Paula, when I said that TS was maybe playing with us it was not really serious <!-- s --><!-- s --> I trust him, and I just thought that maybe he knows when bam is but obviously cannot tell us. <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) -->
I still think we're not using our time wisely - if we're still waiting for someone to tell us what to do maybe we're not fully thinking for ourselves yet. Just a thought.
Funny you say that... here's a post I just added to my blog - Point 2 pertains more to what you were saying...
So have we come up with any coherent theories and can we all say that we could pass the quiz?
I’ll be the first to say I haven’t done either and so that’s probably why it’s been on my mind.
I don’t know, I may just be bringing up stuff that was covered previously but that is no longer relevant….
I personally commit to doing both of these things for myself hopefully by this week.
In regards to what mjj4ever777 wrote I just want to share with you something that TS wrote awhile ago when he was still operating under the signature STUDY.
“For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called: Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.” - Isaiah 9:6
To all of you who aren’t familiar with the Bible, this is actually a prophecy about Jesus Christ written about 740 years BC. Jesus Christ, who we all know is a huge inspiration to Michael.
Ts wrote: “follow The Prince of Peace”.
Jesus himself said: “I am the way and the truth and the life...” - John 14:6
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@mjj4ever777 - wonderful, inspirational words as always! I do believe you have been chosen to spread a message of hope and to help those who are searching for deeper meaning to their existence here on earth. I understand what you are saying and I have felt it too in myself - but probably in not such a profound way as you (as yet anyway). Thank you so much for sharing ... I look forward to your posts as I always learn something that enriches my life from reading them.
In regard to "Michael's Army of L.O.V.E." I'd like to share this video made by MJsFan4Life, who is a member of this site. I think it shows us why Michael wore military costumes and was depicted as the leader of a vast Army ... he was showing us what was to come once the hoax has been revealed and the next stage of this adventure gets underway. Obviously we're not going to be physically marching with him, but metaphorically he will be leading us into battle against the enemy and all who oppose the TRUTH.
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Celebrating Michael every day it´s the best BAM.
TS´s redirect looks like he/ she does not know when the comeback (in flesh I believe..), if any or ever, is going to happen...he is being honest at last <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
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Well said, my thoughts also.
100% agree with you Adi <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> I'm sure that he planned an exact date for the return as well but probably he changed due to some circumstances. I don't know. But for someone who arranged everything so perfectly, I believe that he planned the comeback date too. And I think Michael is the only one who knows about the date of the BAM. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
The philosophy of let things flow not only is useful before decisions, but also when we enfretamos problems or situations that do not occur as expected.
In other words, not forcing decisions not obliged to accept what we chose in a time of pressure, but wait time to accommodate things.
I've been thinking about the BAM a lot lately. I thought if we understood that BAM scene wrong. You know, he says "Let me bathe in my own time".. Maybe he wanted to say "Let me live my own life" and that's it. I also thought maybe he only wanted to let us know that he is alive and that's the only reason why he left clues. BUT afterall I don't believe he did this hoax to hide from the paps and public. Remember when he stayed in Ireland, nobody, no paps could find him. If he wanted to live away from the media awareness, he would stay and live in Ireland or elsewhere. But he returned to Las Vegas, went to watch some Magic Shows and Circusses and arranged a Come Back! All of this huge plan doesn't fit for just a simple hiding. And if he doesn't come back, to me that definitely means he's gone for real. I can not find any other explanation.
i agree, paula. perhaps MJ had planned for a date and perhaps the day may even have already passed because things were not ready, or because MJ decides to postpone it due to surrounding circumstances. we can only speculate, but there is no point in it because we won't know the truth until it is revealed to us.
whatever the circumstance is, i have faith that God is overseeing everything and leading MJ in this. we must continue to keep the faith and love during uncertain periods, and not let doubt shroud our minds. With God on our side, we can be certain that things will unfold perfectly before our eyes <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
Consider this:
We were asked to join Michael’s Army of L.O.V.E.
Mind - not Murray's Army of L.O.V.E., not Arnie Klein's Army of L.O.V.E., not Jermaine's Army of L.O.V.E., but Michael's Army of L.O.V.E.
Why would it be called Michael's Army of L.O.V.E. if he's not going to BAM and take the lead of his army? That doesn't make any sense at all.
I wonder what it is people think MJ is going to do as leader of this army, that he hasn't already done. I'm not making a fuss, I really want to know! Maybe we are giving him a role he may not have planned for or want. Maybe he thinks he's done enough and is handing it over to the rest of the world - and to God. Has TS ever said MJ is coming back to lead his army? I don't recall reading that. Please show me if I've missed it.
And to ask again what I said earlier - what do people think constitutes a bam? Does it necessarily mean him coming back into the public eye, interviews, photos, actually seeing him again in the flesh? Or would incontrovertible evidence to the whole world of him still being alive, but remaining 'hidden' be sufficient?
I still think we're not using our time wisely - if we're still waiting for someone to tell us what to do maybe we're not fully thinking for ourselves yet. Just a thought.
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"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."Chappie
Funny you say that... here's a post I just added to my blog - Point 2 pertains more to what you were saying...
http://lilwendy.wordpress.com/2010/08/30/coherent-theories-do-you-think-for-yourself-quiz/
There are two things TS said that have been on my mind lately:
1. From Update #4, section 4-37 (March 14, 2010)
2. From Update #5, section 5-11 (May 20, 2010)
So have we come up with any coherent theories and can we all say that we could pass the quiz?
I’ll be the first to say I haven’t done either and so that’s probably why it’s been on my mind.
I don’t know, I may just be bringing up stuff that was covered previously but that is no longer relevant….
I personally commit to doing both of these things for myself hopefully by this week.
What do you guys think?
Chappie
How else do you expect people to believe that he didn't die after they have been 100% sure for over a year that he's dead? Just another TMZ article won't do, people will want to see him. Seeing is believing.
Well, if you have a better idea to make the whole world aware of what is really going on and that is has to stop, then I'd like you to post it. Every person I talk to I bring the subject up, very subtle, to test their reaction. In case I get a respond, I will go on but in 90% of the time people look at me like I'm someone who is in desperate need of mental care. That doesn't mean I give up, but it's not like I'm making a lot of progress in spreading the message. If we only have less than three years left, I don't think it will be mission accomplished by the time those three years end.
I agree!
Each of us must have a theory fully assembled in your mind ...
So could be an open suforum with these theories, yes!
It would be great to see the point of view of each. It sure would be a great discussion!
And when bamsday does come—whether sooner or later, there will of course be great rejoicing! But don’t expect things to just go back to entertainment as usual; as you already know, if you’ve read all the TIAI/TS posts, there will be a major battle ahead (Army of LOVE). And remember the following, from Threatened lyrics {http://www.elyrics.net/read/m/michael-jackson-lyrics/threatened-lyrics.html}: “What you have just witnessed could be the end of a particularly terrifying nightmare. It isn’t. It’s the beginning.”
How will this return for which we're in this for over a year, not for the rest of the world, his music will continue rising and people think they are unreleased tracks that were saved. I think we have to make more people understand the message, read and spread, treat others as we would like to be treated ourselves. Remember that TS is said TiAI wakeup call to see what the New World Order so you should join the army of love.
I don't know how to explain this "awakening" except to say that now that I have learned to think for myself, I feel that I'm thinking on a whole new level of "consciousness."
I believe that this hoax, like everything else in life is based on "duality". We have the "entertainment" and "creative"genius side of the hoax, but there is another side to it... the "spiritual awakening" side, the message! I thought I already knew what Michael's message was, but in the last few days I have come to believe that the "message" is much deeper and it is really about us finding out our "purpose" or "reason" for being here on this earth.
TS told us to "take a look back." At first I thought he meant take a look back at all the clues here on the site, but I now know that taking a look "back", means exactly that...taking a look back to the beginning of time here on earth and also looking back at my own life. When I did this, the pieces of the puzzle all seemed to start falling into place for me. From the beginning of time, ancient civilizations have all looked to the "stars" for guidance and I now truly believe that is where we need to start in order to fully understand why we are here. I believe that once you are able to open your mind to all things being possible, then the rest will all start to make sense.
Michael has been guiding us this whole time, but if you can't get in tune with yourself, it will be hard to comprehend what the "message" is really all about.
It is really hard to explain this, but I would like to give you a link to read. Please keep an open mind when you read it.
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When you read this link, some of you will understand right away, while others, will probably not understand it and think "whatever". You really need to "believe" that everything IS possible!
Since I have started thinking on a higher level, I have gone back and listened to the lyrics of Michael's songs and I now see a "different" message in his words. It's all about "light" "love"the "stars" the "Sun" the "Earth" the "moon" "God", "Peace" "Freedom" "History" "Invincibility" "ancient Eygypt" "RA" The "Pyramids" "Good" vs "Evil"... "The end of the world as we know it in 2012"...everything is connected and if you "think for yourself" and you "believe in the power of love" you will put the pieces together and you will understand what I am leading up to....if My husband and I are right and the power of what I am now feeling tells me we Are on the right track, then you will be amazed at what is in store for us in the near future.
TS and Michael...I truly believe with all my heart that I have found what I was looking for. So many things are happening to me that I just can't explain. All I know is that I feel an "energy" so strong, that it has lead me on this journey of "Enlightenment." Wow, what a trip!
I have to go now, but there is so much more that I need to share with you all. I honestly feel like I have been "chosen" because of my belief in Love and energy...I really do! Does anyone else feel this?
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Thanks lilwendy, that's helpful.
“Yes, this whole hoax and plan is for a bigger purpose than just exposing the media. It is time for everyone to STUDY peace: peace in our own lives, and peace in our world. Search for clues about the truth in the Bible, just as you have done with this hoax investigation. Pay attention to the details, and follow "The Prince of Peace" (Isaiah 9:6).” - http://mjkit.forumotion.net/the-numbers-theory-for-all-theories-regarding-the-numbers-theory-f58/from-mjhd-excellent-the-9-9-09-prediction-did-come-true-this-is-it-settles-the-question-is-mj-alive-t1766.htm
“For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called: Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.” - Isaiah 9:6
To all of you who aren’t familiar with the Bible, this is actually a prophecy about Jesus Christ written about 740 years BC. Jesus Christ, who we all know is a huge inspiration to Michael.
Ts wrote: “follow The Prince of Peace”.
Jesus himself said: “I am the way and the truth and the life...” - John 14:6
Just a thought! <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> With L.O.V.E.
I don't know how else to respond to your post, which I have to be honest, left me feeling extremely uncomfortable.
In regard to "Michael's Army of L.O.V.E." I'd like to share this video made by MJsFan4Life, who is a member of this site. I think it shows us why Michael wore military costumes and was depicted as the leader of a vast Army ... he was showing us what was to come once the hoax has been revealed and the next stage of this adventure gets underway. Obviously we're not going to be physically marching with him, but metaphorically he will be leading us into battle against the enemy and all who oppose the TRUTH.
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