TIAI August 30

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  • angelangel Posts: 349
    In my humble opinion, the Bam continues to hinge on the court process, for both Eliza and Conrad Murray. I think Michael's parallels are still ongoing, that is, he has more similarities to Elvis that will be disclosed, and I am asking myself, "What is left to do? What else has Elvis done that Michael has not? Will MJ's reveal take the same form as Elvis's?"
    If I had to guess, I would say MJ is definitely going to wait until after Elvis's Bam. That would make the most impact and would accomplish many objectives, one of which is, it would build anticipation, which is an MJ trademark. It would follow the plan so far, which is Michael copying Elvis: in the "death" parallels---now in the return. If MJ has gone to all this trouble to do it like Elvis, why not go all the way? Again, I think it's a matter of Michael's comfort zone. Elvis first---then Michael.
    I know that one day in the future, Michael is going to pull the plug and say, "That's a wrap." Until then, I continue to wait patiently while daily striving to spread the message and the love, fulfilling my role, and allowing him to "take it from here." <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
  • In regards to what mjj4ever777 wrote I just want to share with you something that TS wrote awhile ago when he was still operating under the signature STUDY.

    “Yes, this whole hoax and plan is for a bigger purpose than just exposing the media. It is time for everyone to STUDY peace: peace in our own lives, and peace in our world. Search for clues about the truth in the Bible, just as you have done with this hoax investigation. Pay attention to the details, and follow "The Prince of Peace" (Isaiah 9:6).” - http://mjkit.forumotion.net/the-numbers-theory-for-all-theories-regarding-the-numbers-theory-f58/from-mjhd-excellent-the-9-9-09-prediction-did-come-true-this-is-it-settles-the-question-is-mj-alive-t1766.htm

    “For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called: Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.” - Isaiah 9:6

    To all of you who aren’t familiar with the Bible, this is actually a prophecy about Jesus Christ written about 740 years BC. Jesus Christ, who we all know is a huge inspiration to Michael.

    Ts wrote: “follow The Prince of Peace”.

    Jesus himself said: “I am the way and the truth and the life...” - John 14:6

    Just a thought! <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> With L.O.V.E.

    The STUDY quote above is interesting (Thanks jono for posting) because it describes very well a possible side of the hoax which as believers we are happy to tip-toe in but find more difficult to embrace. By this I mean, the spiritual side of the hoax and the idea that 2012 is Mike's key reason for the hoax and when he is talking about "awakening", he literally means "awakening" to a new dimension and preparing ourselves for the New Earth... he may even be the "Prince of Peace"... <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->
    Ok...Deep breath... I have had so many "epiphany" moments in the last few days that my brain feels like it has exploded! My husband and I have both had our own personal "BAMS", this being because we have both been "awakened" to the possibility that the "impossible" now seems to be very "probable" and "logical"
    I don't know how to explain this "awakening" except to say that now that I have learned to think for myself, I feel that I'm thinking on a whole new level of "consciousness."
    I have had many "epiphany" moments (To use mjj4ever777 word) as well over the last 12 months and I have come to believe that Michael's "hoax" is much more than just a "material" hoax, it is deeper, much deeper.

    The logical side of me has been fighting against those thoughts, trying to bring everything back to something that can be rationally explained and a big part of the Hoax can be put into a coherent theory showing that Michael faked his death but it gets more difficult to interpret the Why? Why taking such a huge risk and possibly alienating a lot of his fans? Let's remember that the plan started in 1998 or before! Michael must have known exactly what his purpose was then... I could list many possible reasons for the Hoax here but I admit that I do not know for sure Michael's own reason(s)... My believes are shaky here and Elvis "hoax appearance" has brought a host of new questions!

    This leads me to the BAM questions, What is it and when? I am of the opinion that Michael needs to appear to lead his army... does he appear to the full army? to a select few (as we are being tested ... <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> )? to the World and BAM?
    The timing and manner of the BAM is, I guess, dependent upon what Michael wants to trigger with the BAM and who is the BAM audience? And ultimately this links us back to the purpose of the Hoax, the Why!

    Conclusion, understanding the purpose of the Hoax is important, we can only be prepared if we know what we are preparing ourselves for!
    TS/Michael... Thank you for the education to date and please help us in understanding what you want from us <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->

    With L.O.V.E
  • mjj4ever777mjj4ever777 Posts: 1,467
    @mjj4ever777 - wonderful, inspirational words as always! I do believe you have been chosen to spread a message of hope and to help those who are searching for deeper meaning to their existence here on earth. I understand what you are saying and I have felt it too in myself - but probably in not such a profound way as you (as yet anyway). Thank you so much for sharing ... I look forward to your posts as I always learn something that enriches my life from reading them.

    In regard to "Michael's Army of L.O.V.E." I'd like to share this video made by MJsFan4Life, who is a member of this site. I think it shows us why Michael wore military costumes and was depicted as the leader of a vast Army ... he was showing us what was to come once the hoax has been revealed and the next stage of this adventure gets underway. Obviously we're not going to be physically marching with him, but metaphorically he will be leading us into battle against the enemy and all who oppose the TRUTH.

    <!-- m -->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7nAw49K07A<!-- m --> (sorry, I haven't learned yet how to post the actual video here).

    Thank you Emerald!! I am so overwhelmed right now with what is happening, but in a good way. I need a day to collect my thoughts and do some more research, but I honestly believe that Michael is "special". I mean who else in this world is as well known, as Michael Jackson. Michael is truly a "gift" to us all! he has the ability to reach the masses with his "message" and its up to us to search our hearts and minds to find a deeper connection within ourselves, so that we will be prepared for what is to come next. We all have the ability to be the best we can be, but we have to let go of the "fear" in order to Love and think, at our full potential. I have had so many things happen in my life that I just couldn't explain, I just "felt" things...like 'energy", but now I can reflect and everything that happened to me just makes sense now. Love is all that has ever mattered to me and I now I know why. I have been so blessed that my husband Dave went from a man who didn't believe in love, to the most loving, caring man, a woman could ever ask for and he says that it's because I had the power to help him heal himself inside. I believe everyone has the power to be free of fear and to love at their highest potential, they just have to want it bad enough and they have to BELIEVE, that all things are possible.
    Anyway, I will be writing some more very soon, but I wanted to leave these Inspirational lyrics from Michael. God Bless and I love you all very much... if you truly BELIEVE in Michael, then NEVER give up hope...Always,
    "Keep The Faith"

    If You Call Out Loud
    Will It Get Inside
    Through The Heart Of Your Surrender
    To Your Alibis
    And You Can Say The Words
    Like You Understand
    But The Power's In Believing
    So Give Yourself
    A Chance *

    'Cause You Can
    Climb The Highest Mountain
    Swim The Deepest Sea, Hee
    All You
    Need Is The Will To Wart It
    And Uhh, Little Self-Esteem

    So Keep The Faith
    Don't Let Nobody Turn You 'Round
    You Gotta Know When It's Good To Go
    To Get Your Dreams
    Up Off The Ground
    Keep The Faith, Baby, Yea
    Because It's Just
    A Matter Of Time
    Before Your Confidence Will Win Out
    Believe In Yourself
    No Matter What It's Gon' Take
    You Can Be A Winner
    But You Got
    To Keep The Faith
    ...Gon' Keep It Brother
    You Got It *

    And When You Think Of Trust
    Does It Lead You Home
    To A Place That You Only Dream Of
    When You're All Alone
    And You Can Go
    By Feel 'Stead Of Circumstance
    But The Power's In Beliving
    So Give Yourself A Chance

    I Know That You Can Sail Across The Water
    Float Across The Sky, High
    Any Road That You Take
    Will Get You There
    If You Only Try

    So Keep The Faith, Ow
    Don't Let Nobody Take You Down,
    Brother
    Just Keep Your Eyes On The Prize And Your Feet
    Flat On The Ground
    Keep The Faith, Baby, Yea
    Because It's Just A Matter Of Time
    Before Your Confidence Will Win Out *
    I Told My Brother How To Do The Thing Right
    Lift Up Your Head And Show The World You Got Pride
    Go For What You Want
    Don't Let 'Em Get In Your Way
    You Can Be A Winner
    But You Got To Keep The Faith
    Gon' Keep It Brother
    You Got It

    I Know That Keepin' The Faith
    Means Never Givin' Up On Love
    But The Power That Love Has To Make It Right
    Makes It Makes It Right

    Keep The Faith
    Don't Let Nobody Turn You 'Round Brother
    You Got To KnowWhen It's Good To Go
    To Get Your Dreams Up Off The Ground
    Keep The Faith Baby, Yea
    Because It's Just A Matter Of Time
    Before Your Confidence Will Win Out
    Better Stand Up And Act Like You Wanna Do Right
    Don't Play The Fool For The Rest Of Your Life
    Work On It Brother And You'll Make It
    Someday Go For What You Want
    And Don't Forget The Faith
    Look At Yourself
    And What You Doin' Right Now
    Stand Back A Minute
    Just To Check Yourself Out
    Straighten Out Your Life
    And How You're Livin' Each Day
    Get Yourself Together
    'Cause You Got To Keep The Faith
    Uh, Uh, Uh

    Don't Let Nobody Take You Down, Brother
    Just Keep Your Eyes On The Prize
    And Your Feet Flat On The Ground
    Keep The Faith, Baby, Yea
    Because It's Just A Matter Of Time
    Before Your Confidence Will Win Out
    Lift Up Your Mind
    Before Your Mind Gets Blown
    Some Things In Life
    You Best Just Leave Them Alone
    Go For What You Want
    Don't Let It Get In Your Way
    You Can Make It Happen
    But Ya Got Ta Keep The Faith

    Gon' Keep It Brother
    You Got To Keep The Faith
    Yeah Keep The Faith
    Gon' Keep It Sister
    You Got To Keep The Faith
    Now, Now
    I'll Show My Brotha
    How To Do The Thing Right
    Lift Up Your Head
    And Show The World You Got Pride
    Go For What You Want
    Don't Let 'Em Get In Your Way
    You Can Be A Winner
    If You Keep The Faith
    Straighten Out Yourself
    And Get Your Mind On Track
    Dust Off Your Butt
    And Get Your Self-Respect Back
    You've Known Me Long Enough
    To Know That I Don't Play
    Take It Like You Want It

    But You Got To Keep The Faith Gon'
    Don't Let Nobody Take You Down
    Just Keep Your Eyes On The Prize
    And Get Your Feet Back On The Ground
    Keep The Faith, Baby, Yea
    Because It's Lust
    A Matter Of Time
    Before Your Confidence Will Win Out
    But Till That Day I Said You've Got To Keep The Faith!
  • Have just been sitting here thinking about 2012 and how this is obviously a year of great significance to Michael. On this day, 13 years ago (08/31/1997) Princess Diana died in a car crash in Paris. Her death was 20 years (to the month) after Elvis Presley's death in 1977. Twelve years after Princess Diana died, it was announced that Michael Jackson had died. Add it together and you get 2012!! Might mean something, or it might be one big coincidence. I just wanted to share this with you as, since the hoax began, I can't look at dates or times in exactly the same way as I did before <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
  • Mo, I was simply trying to get away from focusing on a bam, because we just don't know how long we're going to be waiting for it.

    I don't know how else to respond to your post, which I have to be honest, left me feeling extremely uncomfortable.

    I'm sorry to hear that curls, that was not my intention at all...
  • I agree 100% with your post Angel! I think it is time to be patient and keep spreading LOVE and work on the "man" in the mirror! CHEERS! <!-- s:P -->:P<!-- s:P -->

  • Hmmm, let's see...

    Option 1: There is a chance he needs to wait for the Eliza case/Vernon exhumation, and the planning for his own exhumation as well. I do hope he is ready though, by that I mean he knows we're here for him when he needs us and he feels safe and supported enough to come back. I haven't seen TS redirect to Mr. Marley yet, so despite yesterday's redirect, I'm still a liddle worried. In this case Mike might have had several dates in mind, some of which have already passed, some still to come. There are many factors he can't control, so in this case he has some buffers.

    Option 2: There is a part of me that thinks he has this one date in mind since he started planning this. If he is really such a perfectionist, he must have this perfect bamdate planned in advance as well. Probably impossible for us to find out, but that would make it even more perfect. In this case TS' predictions of possible bamdates are either a test for us to see if we will keep the faith no matter what, or Mike simply is the only one who knows the date.

    Option 3: He is deciding if he will be back at all.

    I haven't made up my mind yet. I am leaning towards option 2, but it could be option 1 as well, simply because it makes sense.
    Although I would definitely understand option 3, I don't think that's the case, because then all of this would have been in vain. I don't see him starting something without finishing it, most certainly not something like this where he has put his heart and soul in.


    I LIKE the combo of Option 1 and 2.

    It is MY belief that when Michael began planning and preparing for this "hoax" he indeed knew the "perfect day" to "die".

    Based on what I know about him and his love of numerology, he could pinpoint the "perfect day" to "die" and during his planning phase, (the years from the start, all the way up to today) he probably has added some things and deleted some things to his plan according to circumstances out of his control. Flexibility is key. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->

    Think about ALL the shit he has endured since roughly 1991.

    While planning this "hoax" I am thinking he probably adjusted the original plan to include REVENGE and Personal VENDETTAS that came about as a result of The Conspiracies towards him.
    These things NEED to be finished and ticked off a list before this is over. <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) -->

    It is my opinion that Michael indeed has a rough timeframe for his "BAM"
    (whatever that means to him.)

    I believe that the year 2012 is a major clue for the rough draft timeframe of a "BAM" and the intial end of the "hoax". I also believe that there are exact planned dates still to come for certain things to play out accordingly but, what happens in between those dates to this "hoax" is out of Michael's hands (kind of), he has no control over how we as "hoax" players are gonna act, or respond to any of this.

    He can influence us, by clues or TS Updates, TMZ articles, his own family but, when it comes down to it THIS HOAX has a LIFE of it's own.

    There is ALOT of things ALL happening and being accomplished at the same time.
    What better way to Get A Message out to The World?
    Fake your death and get people involved in the world's biggest classroom and educate them while entertaining them, so we don't go completely NUTS, lol.
    PURE GENIUS <!-- s:mrgreen: -->:mrgreen:<!-- s:mrgreen: -->

    Seriously though if Mike had done his concerts in London and it was rumoured that he wanted to use that as a platform for a message, only the people at the concerts would hear the message. Doing it the way he has, SHOCK FACTOR, by Faking his death, getting the publics attention, getting them involved in a game, ARG, teach them ALL (over the net) about ALL the corrupt shit in the world. Recruit for the ARMY of L.O.V.E.
    AWESOME! <!-- s:ugeek: -->:ugeek:<!-- s:ugeek: -->

    Lead by example, that is what Mike has done his whole LIFE, he has lead by example and he continues to LEAD right now. Just read this whole forum, look at his videos, interviews, he is leading the Army of L.O.V.E. RIGHT NOW.

    Peace
    sorry I am long winded this has been on my mind for a while.
  • MissGMissG Posts: 7,403
    "In the instant that Michael is gone, we know nothing. No clocks can tell time. No oceans can rush our tides with the abrupt absence of our treasure.

    Though we are many, each of us is achingly alone, piercingly alone.

    Only when we confess our confusion can we remember that he was a gift to us and we did have him.

    He came to us from the creator, trailing creativity in abundance.

    Despite the anguish, his life was sheathed in mother love, family love, and survived and did more than that.

    He thrived with passion and compassion, humor and style. We had him whether we know who he was or did not know, he was ours and we were his.

    We had him, beautiful, delighting our eyes.

    His hat, aslant over his brow, and took a pose on his toes for all of us.

    And we laughed and stomped our feet for him.

    We were enchanted with his passion because he held nothing. He gave us all he had been given.


    Today in Tokyo, beneath the Eiffel Tower, in Ghana's Black Star Square.

    In Johannesburg and Pittsburgh, in Birmingham, Alabama, and Birmingham, England

    We are missing Michael.

    But we do know we had him, and we are the world."

    Maya Angelou
  • Gema, I LOVE that poem by Maya Angelou! I remember Queen Latifa reading it out at the Memorial - such profound and beautifully written words. Thanks for sharing xx <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
  • angelangel Posts: 349
    I agree 100% with your post Angel! I think it is time to be patient and keep spreading LOVE and work on the "man" in the mirror! CHEERS! <!-- s:P -->:P<!-- s:P -->


    Thank you, GodhaschosenMJ, for your kind words! Love and blessings to you. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
  • MissGMissG Posts: 7,403
    Gema, I LOVE that poem by Maya Angelou! I remember Queen Latifa reading it out at the Memorial - such profound and beautifully written words. Thanks for sharing xx <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->

    Thanks emeraldcity. That poem just expressed how I feel an may be how we all feel.

    Hugs.
  • angelangel Posts: 349
    @Im_convincedmjalive,

    Very good post! I agree with you. I think Michael adjusted and fine tuned the plan as the years went by, and the hoax began to live and breathe all by itself (with a little help from God). <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
    Lately, I can't shake the feeling that justice does play a bigger role in this than we have imagined. Despite his "rhinocerous skin", I think Michael will not really rest until he is truly exonerated by the entire planet! I think he is destined and determined to make this happen, whatever it takes, and I say, "More power to him!"
    I also think his family is knowlegeable and is supporting him in all this, and like Janet, they share the family trait of being able to keep secrets for years, even decades, if necessary, which has served them well.
    The concerts, like you mentioned, would not have been as effective in spreading his message as the death hoax, but we have to consider that this was also an Elvis parallel (Elvis was only days away from a concert performance at the time of his "death").
  • In regards to what mjj4ever777 wrote I just want to share with you something that TS wrote awhile ago when he was still operating under the signature STUDY.

    “Yes, this whole hoax and plan is for a bigger purpose than just exposing the media. It is time for everyone to STUDY peace: peace in our own lives, and peace in our world. Search for clues about the truth in the Bible, just as you have done with this hoax investigation. Pay attention to the details, and follow "The Prince of Peace" (Isaiah 9:6).” - http://mjkit.forumotion.net/the-numbers-theory-for-all-theories-regarding-the-numbers-theory-f58/from-mjhd-excellent-the-9-9-09-prediction-did-come-true-this-is-it-settles-the-question-is-mj-alive-t1766.htm

    “For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called: Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.” - Isaiah 9:6

    To all of you who aren’t familiar with the Bible, this is actually a prophecy about Jesus Christ written about 740 years BC. Jesus Christ, who we all know is a huge inspiration to Michael.

    Ts wrote: “follow The Prince of Peace”.

    Jesus himself said: “I am the way and the truth and the life...” - John 14:6

    Just a thought! <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> With L.O.V.E.


    thank you for your post.i have to clarify do you have any thoughts to ad about who michael might be ect. ect. or are you just making a straight up statement? <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
  • @Im_convincedmjalive,

    Very good post! I agree with you. I think Michael adjusted and fine tuned the plan as the years went by, and the hoax began to live and breathe all by itself (with a little help from God). <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
    Lately, I can't shake the feeling that justice does play a bigger role in this than we have imagined. Despite his "rhinocerous skin", I think Michael will not really rest until he is truly exonerated by the entire planet! I think he is destined and determined to make this happen, whatever it takes, and I say, "More power to him!"
    I also think his family is knowlegeable and is supporting him in all this, and like Janet, they share the family trait of being able to keep secrets for years, even decades, if necessary, which has served them well.
    The concerts, like you mentioned, would not have been as effective in spreading his message as the death hoax, but we have to consider that this was also an Elvis parallel (Elvis was only days away from a concert performance at the time of his "death").

    Thank you angel for acknowledging my long post, lol

    Forget about Elvis/Jesse NEVER! lol
    Of course I include him in this fantastic adventure, I just forgot to mention him this time.

    There is alot I don't say. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
    Peace
  • Mo, I was simply trying to get away from focusing on a bam, because we just don't know how long we're going to be waiting for it.

    I don't know how else to respond to your post, which I have to be honest, left me feeling extremely uncomfortable.

    I'm sorry to hear that curls, that was not my intention at all...

    You guys should read the Master of Mystery chapter from the MICHAEL JACKSON TAPES book . (Page 144 to 160, fans version). I recommend it to all of you (i'm sure most of you already did , but just in case ...). I would have preferred to make a thread of it , but it's a pdf document , and i have no idea how to post a full text here. Maybe someone knows how to use an OCR software...

    Anyway , here is the link to the MICHAEL JACKSON TAPES pdf to download for whom interested. It's a "Fans version", not the original:

    Link : http://www.sendspace.com/file/320txn
  • jonojono Posts: 279
    In regards to what mjj4ever777 wrote I just want to share with you something that TS wrote awhile ago when he was still operating under the signature STUDY.

    “Yes, this whole hoax and plan is for a bigger purpose than just exposing the media. It is time for everyone to STUDY peace: peace in our own lives, and peace in our world. Search for clues about the truth in the Bible, just as you have done with this hoax investigation. Pay attention to the details, and follow "The Prince of Peace" (Isaiah 9:6).” - http://mjkit.forumotion.net/the-numbers-theory-for-all-theories-regarding-the-numbers-theory-f58/from-mjhd-excellent-the-9-9-09-prediction-did-come-true-this-is-it-settles-the-question-is-mj-alive-t1766.htm

    “For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called: Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.” - Isaiah 9:6

    To all of you who aren’t familiar with the Bible, this is actually a prophecy about Jesus Christ written about 740 years BC. Jesus Christ, who we all know is a huge inspiration to Michael.

    Ts wrote: “follow The Prince of Peace”.

    Jesus himself said: “I am the way and the truth and the life...” - John 14:6

    Just a thought! <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> With L.O.V.E.


    thank you for your post.i have to clarify do you have any thoughts to ad about who michael might be ect. ect. or are you just making a straight up statement? <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->

    I am simply underlining what STUDY/TS wrote:

    “Search for clues about the truth in the Bible, just as you have done with this hoax investigation. Pay attention to the details, and follow "The Prince of Peace" (Isaiah 9:6).”

    In this context “the Prince of Peace” is Jesus Christ.

    Michel Jackson is a human being just like you and me.. Just slightly more famous <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> and of course a genius!
    I was certainly not trying to say that Michel is Jesus or anything like that… Just a clarification <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->

    L.O.V.E.
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