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Riley admits 'enhancing' Jackson's voice
Tuesday, December 14 2010, 13:44 GMT
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Teddy RileyMichael JacksonMusicProducer Teddy Riley has admitted he had to digitally enhance Michael Jackson's voice on certain parts of the iconic singer's new album Michael.
Riley admitted that Jackson's pitch had been adjusted on a number of tracks, which had resulted in fans questioning whether it was actually Jackson singing on the album.
"I had to do more processing on the voice, which is why people were asking about the authenticity of his voice," The Hollywood Reporter quotes Riley as saying. "We had to do what we had to do to make [...] his voice work with the actual music."
"We truly apologise for that happening, but you are still hearing the true Michael Jackson," the producer added.
Riley was recently forced to defend the release of Michael Jackson's first posthumous album after Thriller producer Quincy Jones slammed the decision to release unfinished work by the late singer.
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Riley admits 'enhancing' Jackson's voice
Tuesday, December 14 2010, 13:44 GMT
By Tom Ayres, Comics ReporterTweet this Digg this Send to friend More options
Teddy RileyMichael JacksonMusicProducer Teddy Riley has admitted he had to digitally enhance Michael Jackson's voice on certain parts of the iconic singer's new album Michael.
Riley admitted that Jackson's pitch had been adjusted on a number of tracks, which had resulted in fans questioning whether it was actually Jackson singing on the album.
"I had to do more processing on the voice, which is why people were asking about the authenticity of his voice," The Hollywood Reporter quotes Riley as saying. "We had to do what we had to do to make [...] his voice work with the actual music."
"We truly apologise for that happening, but you are still hearing the true Michael Jackson," the producer added.
Riley was recently forced to defend the release of Michael Jackson's first posthumous album after Thriller producer Quincy Jones slammed the decision to release unfinished work by the late singer.
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You may be right. I am thinking it also fits with the numerology with SEVEN songs sounding like him and that's it. And there was a rumored album called SEVEN, I think, around 2005. I was also thinking that it would make sense for Teddy Riley to be the one to alter the three songs that are questionable, per Michael's request since Riley and him may be the closest out of the other producers that worked on the album.
Yes, DEFINITELY. The Seven thing is something I noticed immediately. And I think Teddy is trustworthy. There's a chance he's working for Sony and their evil plot or whatever, but I don't find that to be realistic. If I had a chance to work with MJ, even once, he would have my full loyalty. As a singer and a human being, I don't think any amount of money could change that.
Three of the tracks on the album are Jason Malachi. The clue is in the vibrato.
So for me, it's no stretch of the imagination to think that Michael's voice was manipulated to the exact point in order to achieved the sound desired sound.......something that sort of sounds like Michael, then again doesn't sound like Michael. Whether it was done on purpose for the particular song fit or done to create controversy, doesn't matter to me. If they had to, "fill in" voice work, doesn't matter....I like the end result. I tend to listen to music for what it is: music. If Teddy says he had to manipulate Michael's voice...ok, that's to be expected....Michael's supposedly dead.
Anyways, I hope the new Michael CD outsells everything and breaks records left and right. Like I said to one member here, I am hoping for Michael under the Christmas tree this year <!-- s
Blessings to you all!
If you don't know what I'm talking about look up these songs: RumpShaker, anything by GUY, Blackstreet, and certain songs by artists uh, too long list right now <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
What is happening to my ears?? Because I hear the voice of Michael on every song on the album and also on "All I need". You can not confuse this with any other voice.
Of course it has chorus, it is clear that the chorus can be the voice of others. Michael was adopting this style since 2001. I cite several songs: One More Chance, Heaven Can Wait, Speechless, On the line ....!
Breaking news may contain some productions, but what's the problem of making an enhancement to highlight the "Jackson" since that is the focus of the song?
But no use me trying to convince anyone, nor is anyone here able to convince me. In all the songs Michael has presented us with his voice, his emotion and passion ... if he comes back and say that he was not... okay, then I have to believe, but until then .... I follow my ears, because I think they are still in good condition and practical apuradíssimos recognize the voice of Michael. I hear Michael 100% throughout the album (amazing album).
Jason Malachi has not so much vocal power, folks!
Just one question: whether the family had not launched this doubt, this discussion would exist here??
Sorry ... is my opinion and do not want to annoy anyone, ok?
Give it up Teddy.
First of all, we WERE given the demo leaks and we HEARD that the versions changed depending on the day of leakage. There was no hiding at all.
Second, Michael has been stirring up controversy again - and that is NOTHING new, isn't it?
Third, Teddy had to adjust to the "outer" ears. This represents professional execution of his job.
"Michael" has become a great album due to dedication.
It is true we could spend a year discussing this and never come to an agreement.
After hearing all of the songs I can say with 100% certainty that Michael is the only Michael singing on this album along with other backups and such. Also, this album proves to me that he is alive. Look at (I Like) The Way You Love Me on Michael. They play an original part of his demo to make it sound like the song is unfinished and then pow out of nowhere you hear Michael singing the lyrics and it doesn't sound anything like a demo. It sounds like he had just got done recording this song that's how fresh it sounds. I couldn't believe it. None of these songs are "unfinished" or anything. All of the music in every song is finished and incredibly well done. This album is a masterpiece. anybody with ears can notice that. Don't let the media persuade you. They are playing with us. He will be coming out with another album, I can assure you. Michael lives out of the spotlight now, while remaining in his own personal hidden spotlight while we enjoy his new songs like this. It's a perfect strategy. He knows exactly what he is doing.
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If you're not convinced by that, you are obviously deaf. The difference in the vibrato is just so obvious. MJ's is natural, and Malachi's is so forced. Just like in the three songs.
You guys are right; Malachi can't replicate the same skill and talent as MJ. Which I why I maintain that Breaking News, Monster and Keep Your Head Up aren't up to par in vocals as the rest of the album.
I listen to Monster and I simply can't imagine those vocals coming out of Michael. I picture Malachi whenever I hear it. But when I listen to Hollywood Tonight or Behind the Mask, it's instantly obvious that it's the real deal and I can easily imagine Michael singing.
Sorry, but this doesn't hold up. I listen to everything from the Jackson 5 up to Invincible and even the song he recorded in '03, One More Chance. My opinion remains static. Don't forget, Hold My Hand was recorded in '07 and he sounds just as he should. It's obviously him there.
Great to hear there are people who sill discover Michael. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
I'd like to invite you all to my thread with a discussion on the differences in Michael's voice on the 3 tracks that were recorded at the house of the Cascio Family. I made some points there, I'd like you to "do your homework", listen to the tracks, pay attention to all the elements I ennumerated, and then come back to that thread and share your points. I'll be very grateful for that! <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
Maybe we'll come together to a certain conclusion.
Here is the thread.
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Peace!
Notice how the song in question is the most contraversial one.."BREAKING NEWS".
It already has made people sit up and actually listen to the words..and hear the message.
This contraversy is even making the news here in Australia.. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> Where Michael the album has reached No.1 on the first few days...
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It is so sad that with all that Michael gave to music his label would re pay him by DISRESPECTING HIS MEMORY LIKE THIS.
and i would hope his family isn't in on this
Teddy was one of my favorite PRODUCER
WHY WOULD HE DO THIS DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tonykurtistv 1 hour ago nativenalini
2 hours ago Teddy Riley is now tryin to put the blame on the Melodyne software.. lol
nativenalini 2 hours ago tonykurtistv
2 hours ago @nativenalini I New That Was What He Used To Fix Jason's Pitch. I have lost all respect for teddy for this as a producer and i will never buy another record he prduce
tonykurtistv 2 hours ago tonykurtistv
2 hours ago @tonykurtistv sorry for the typo
tonykurtistv 2 hours ago Highest Rated Comments
tonykurtistv
1 day ago 40 Tell SONY put all their money on this record not being JASON MALACHI let me live on TV put my JASON MALACHI RAW MASTERS up against their BREAKING NEWS RAW MASTERS.
tonykurtistv 1 day ago 40 RyahSure
17 hours ago 37 This revelation just made me sick to my stomach. Sony-MJ Estate-Cascio-Riley and whoever was involved in the making and approval of the Cascio tracks won't get any respect and a single penny from me. Thank you Tony for putting this up. I didn't buy the album because the Cascio tracks tainted the whole album for me. I know buying it will line the pockets of these goons. I only purchase the non-Cascio tracks that I know will benefit his kids and will honor his legacy.
RyahSure 17 hours ago 37 see all
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jason malachi is an anagram of Michael Jackson....show me jason singing live please...you can't? oh too bad man.... you can't cause there is no live song from the famous Jason....because he is just an alibi to contain the leak of Michael 'song on internet since the internet became dangerous for artists. the songs in you re video here are singing by.........Michael Jackson !!!! here is the truth man. shame on you. God Bless Michael Jackson King of pop.
TheMJCanta 18 minutes ago AnaNord
54 minutes ago @tonykurtistv Who said he did`? You did say it. So question: what are you trying to gain? You can at least answer.
AnaNord 54 minutes ago kalambalikis
1 hour ago I'm sure Michael has written many songs since his last album, Invincible. Would it be so hard to put those in "Michael"? What's the deal with the fake tracks? And he has definitely written songs that are much better than these.
kalambalikis 1 hour ago schurzie1
1 hour ago I'm not buying "Michael" for many reasons; this is really sick what Sony Music, Riley, et al, have done. I'm more than satisfied with my Michael albums made during his lifetime. Look at all the crap Sony has done since his death. Riley is writing a book for God's sake! You are right! Probably no Michael at all on the three Cascio tracks. The senior Cascio worked for hotels til he opened his restaurant named Michaelangelos in New Jersey; wonder where he got the cash.
schurzie1 1 hour ago tmcgaffin
1 hour ago And Melodyne does NOT change the actual sound of a voice. Teddy Riley is lying. Call him out!
tmcgaffin 1 hour ago tmcgaffin
1 hour ago Teddy Riley is lying. That Melodyne software explanation of his is just another lie to cover his original lie because you would NEVER change a MJ vocal to sound like a imitator voice. It would be the other way around. You would change an imitator voice to try and sound like MJ. And you wouldn't change the voice to match the music, you would change the music to match the voice.
And how would MJ sing so poorly so that they would need to fix his voice to match the original music anyway?
Yep I know "The Way You Like Me Is" older, but I'm saying the new version of it sounds much different vocally and of course instrumentally. It doesn't sound like the one that was released in 2005. The vocals seem much newer, as if it were actually recorded again for this album. I love the new version of it. The whole album is great.
OMG, now i'm REALLY confused, and am a little pissed at the same time. I really want to believe that this is MJ singing so i accept it, We all know that it didn't sound like the rest of the vocals or like MJ's usual self when we first heard these 3 songs, i know i didn't, but then you look at the cascio's on oprah and how could you not believe them.. look at them, they can't be lying. Then you got Teddy and what he says, and he seems like a nice guy and genuine, so how can you not believe him? After all he SHOULD know Michael's voice after working with him for almost 20 years. So those things really help in making the decisions that MJ is singing, and of course your own ears. The more I listened to them, the more I accepted it. I like the songs, i really do. When i listen to the album, i listen to it straight through, with no doubts at this point . Although i'll admit to the occasional skip over of "Keep Your Head Up", but its not because i thought it wasn't MJ. The songs are great and i even think Monster is one of the strongest tracks as far as a "radio hits" goes, it can be huge.
But now we have Jason Malachi's previous producer, who's recorded vocals with him on and off for 10 years. The video above was infact made by Tony Kurtis, Malachi's old producer. Look at this, please. I just really don't know what to think at this point anymore.
Tony Kurtis was Malachi's producer in his early days; JM mentioned him in a radio interview. Tony has now stated that he believes the songs are not sung by MJ and that Breaking News was recorded in 2009. (the acapella is lower than the regular BN.
Tony said about ICMI:
""I Can Make It" full version came from my last cd Tony Kurtis "E.A. Where It All Started" it feat. Dru Hill Ruff Ends Paula Cambell and more Jason was the only artist on it that had never been signed, i put him on it because i believed in him but what he is doing now is wrong and after all the talks we had about him oneday being on a record with michael i would have never thought Jason would have went out like this"-'
Some other quotes:
"I recorded the Jason Malachi records witch is why i know those vocals are him . I recorded him for 10 years off and on we never could get him as tight as Michael cause Michael can really sing Jason is tone def i use to make him song all the way through his verses even though i could punch i wouldn't to help him with his pitch. As you have recored vocals for over 13 years i have been singing for 23 years "
"Michael's kids are right that's not DADDY's voice as they said."
"How are you gonna tell MJ's mom what her own son sound like she knows"
"i'm a recording artist as well i'm not gonna try to build a career off of just telling the truth i'm not gonna go to the media cause i don't want money fame or anything i only want justice for Michael's music. Don't put out fake recordings of MJ and tell people it's him"
"About 2 years ago JASON bough his MASTERS BACK from me, all but "I can make it" cause that was a Tony Kurtis record he was just on it. But i still have copys of all the MASTERS. I recorded them i no Jason voice from anybody."
Jam2008, a MaxJax mod, told that he has been in contact with Jason for a few years.
"I asked Jason in November if he was singing on the Cascio tracks. He said "I can't confirm or deny anything right now." If he wasn't singing on those songs, he would have just denied it. I only shared this information with the team and a few others, because I didn't want to betray Jason's trust. But with his former producer coming out with this info, the time is right to speak up. The top is off the bottle, now. So I have nothing to lose by saying what I know."
Okay so I just listened to this video along with Breaking News and in the video posted, there is clearly a pitch change to make the voice sound altered. It is most noticeable when Michael goes high pitched as it does not sound completely natural for Michael's voice. When you listen to Breaking News, the voice is much more clear and the pitch is higher.
Also whats with the lame 16bit audio? What does it have to hide? 16bits will hide just enough of the sound artifacts to give a more genuine sounding sample. This guy also has a page where he sings Michael Jackson songs with very little views. My assumption? He is using this to get views to his channel.
As soon as they give me some 32Bit, 300kbps or FLAC accapella or demos of the songs then this guy's point is moot. Sorry that people have to see this propaganda. It is sickening.
Are you actually serious? The final produced version is the version that's been altered. The vocals that Tony Kurtis posted in that video sound more like Jason Malachi. Obviously Malachi's voice was altered in the final product to sound higher and more authentic. Want further proof? Take any MJ song (pre-Michael) and turn the pitch down. It sounds artificial, like 2000 Watts. But here, the downed pitch sounds more natural to this particular sound-bite. Interesting.
And to even further drive the fact home, in the video he's posted a vocal clip of one of Malachi's songs, I Can Make It, which of course have vocals that are identical to those of Breaking News.
Really? Are you serious? He's Jason Malachi's producer. If you don't think so, how do you think he just happens to have those raw vocals? There's no way to completely separate vocals from music unless you have the two separate audio files.
nWo has denied it and others will too. Why? Because some people just have too much pride to admit they're wrong. Sony probably probably figured that those vocals sounded enough like MJ to pass them off as him, but unfortunately for their greed some of us have highly-tuned ears and can pick up the subtlest differences in someone's voice (it's not even that subtle here at all... in fact it's quite obvious. Some people will buy into anything).
Again, if he has the RAW vocals why did he posts one of the lowest settings possible? If he wanted to prove his point, then he would have posted the highest quality possible and download links in order to convince people. But sadly to the untrained ear, people will be swayed. There are ways to completely separate vocals from background music. It is very easy to do that but it does take a little more time to remove any background fragments. Since he posted such a wear quality version of what he claims to be RAW vocals, any distortion in the voice and background could be easily blocked out.
For example, the end of this cut of Billie Jean is only Michael, the background singers have completely been faded out.
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And here is a version of Billie Jean that has a reworked back track. Again, the original voice audio was separated from the original track and placed on top of a new background track.
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It isn't a matter of pride, it is a matter of clearing all the bullshit that people post on the internet. Since when did some random Youtube user become a reliable source? The guy got what he wanted, he got a couple thousand views, people probably subscribed to him so now he can finally get 10 more views on his lame Michael Jackson covers that he has on his page.
Nobody records vocals in FLAC format you do realize this right? FLAC is a codec and is used when ripping audio to preserve the audio quality of the original source. Free Lossless Audio Codec. You see FLAC format when you download albums/songs from the internet alot. People use the FLAC codec when they rip cd's because it results in better quality, then say mp3.