Teddy admits Michael's voice had been enhanced on Michael

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  • nWonWo Posts: 59
    As soon as they give me some 32Bit, 300kbps or FLAC accapella or demos of the songs then this guy's point is moot. Sorry that people have to see this propaganda. It is sickening.

    Nobody records vocals in FLAC format you do realize this right? FLAC is a codec and is used when ripping audio to preserve the audio quality of the original source. Free Lossless Audio Codec. You see FLAC format when you download albums/songs from the internet alot. People use the FLAC codec when they rip cd's because it results in better quality, then say mp3.

    You can also have FLAC type RAW files. When you download a FLAC album or rip a CD to FLAC format, you can extract the audio with production software. I should have been more clear, my mistake. My point was that the guy posted a weak quality version of what he says is JM.
  • Again, if he has the RAW vocals why did he posts one of the lowest settings possible? If he wanted to prove his point, then he would have posted the highest quality possible and download links in order to convince people. But sadly to the untrained ear, people will be swayed. There are ways to completely separate vocals from background music. It is very easy to do that but it does take a little more time to remove any background fragments. Since he posted such a wear quality version of what he claims to be RAW vocals, any distortion in the voice and background could be easily blocked out.

    Maybe that's the only version that exists? Maybe JM doesn't know anything about audio production and correct formats. Let's not also forget the vocal section from JM's own song in that video after the Breaking News vocals. They're identical. There's no way to deny it.

    Those videos you posted still have music on them. I myself am involved in audio production (for music specifically), and there is nothing out there, for any amount of money, that can cleanly separate instruments from vocals. That video of raw Breaking News vocals also had the harmony vocals removed. It is possible to remove certain bass and tremble elements of a track to a degree, but that video has flawless acapella.

    What you're arguing is that this person separated the instruments, vocals and background vocals from one track!? Impossible. An mp3 file only has two audio sections; right and left. Combined tracks for stereo. Him cleanly singing "Michael Jackson" alone without the background vocal layering does not exist on its own within an mp3 file! If anything, taking out the backing vocals from the one file would leave you with a very shallow M-k-l J-c-k-n, if that.
    It isn't a matter of pride, it is a matter of clearing all the bullshit that people post on the internet. Since when did some random Youtube user become a reliable source? The guy got what he wanted, he got a couple thousand views, people probably subscribed to him so now he can finally get 10 more views on his lame Michael Jackson covers that he has on his page.

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    It doesn't matter where the evidence comes from. He has a clean audio sample of the vocals, acapella, without backing vocals or a instrumental track (impossible WITHOUT access to the raw files, which can only be accessed by the producers and anyone who worked with audio production on the album itself.) not to mention the vocals to one of Malachi's own songs in that same video.
  • Althought this is VERY interesting.. take this with a grain of salt. This is from June 2008 from maxiumum-jackson.com. A user called "Undiscovered" on that board is Jason Malachi, so he says. Look at what he wrote in one post..

    "^^Yes. Just to let the fans know, Michael IS aware of the Malachi phenomenon. There have been rumors that he is behind the whole thing, and there have been rumors that he and I are in "cahoots" with each other. I can't come out and say what is going on, but when the time is right, I will. Things are really "Hush Hush" when you're involved with the King of Pop.

    By the way, thank you all for being supportive on this forum. I'm more likely to respond on this site rather than on facebook or myspace because I almost ALWAYS get stupid messages like "QUIT COPYING MICHAEL JACKSON, YOU IDIOT!!" or "I HATE YOU, LOSER!!" Since I've joined this site, and the MJJ Community, fans have been a lot more respectful, and it's always a blessing to discuss Michael Jackson with other fans.

    Best Wishes.............Malachi"

    There are other posts too..
    Here is the original thread
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  • More posts from Jason Malachi from that forum: from 2008
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    ^^I've been trying to imitate those gorgeous harmonies since I was 13. I may come close at times, but no one does it like Michael Jackson. <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o -->k:

    ......Malachi



    I May be doing something with MJ in the future. At the moment, it's kind of up in the air, but I'll keep you posted.

    Thanks for the support.....Malachi



    Jason Malachi just might be opening up for MJ during his tour at the O2 arena in London.....will keep you posted.

    Best Wishes......Malachi


    Leaks are a mixed blessing. They generate a buzz, but it happens when you least expect it and it's hard to locate the source who leaked it.
    For example, "Mamacita" was not intended to be leaked. But someone leaked it and it generated a lot of publicity, and people thought it was a new Michael Jackson song, and it wasn't.
    It just goes to show that you can't trust anyone in the record buisness, really. However, this song was most likely leaked on purpose

    Love..........Malachi



    Mike has been working hard the last few years. Trust me. This is only the beginning.........

    Best Wishes......Malachi


    Michael has such a unique voice. I actually always sounded like Michael, even when I was younger, I sounded like him when he was in the Jackson 5. Ironically, even after my voice broke and changed, I suddenly sounded like the adult Michael Jackson!!

    Michael Jackson's voice (and overall style) has influenced legions of fans.

    Love...........Malachi



    I can't come forward with anything yet, but I will when I'm allowed to and things will make a lot of sense

    Love................Malachi



    I'm not allowed to reveal the details yet, but I have met Michael. :thud:


    Patience is a Virtue, Guys. You All Will Be Rewarded In A Way You Couldn't Possibly Imagine:wink:

    Love........Malachi


    I was always that one guy who was allegedly "obsessed" with Michael Jackson. All through middle and high school, I sang and danced like him. I studied every gesture, every dance move, every vocal, every grunt...hell, even every "Hee-Hee." I caught a lot of flack for it, but I didn't care. I'm 28 years old now, and let's just say that Michael Jackson is still a HUGE part of my life.
  • More posts from Jason Malachi from that forum: from 2008
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    ^^I've been trying to imitate those gorgeous harmonies since I was 13. I may come close at times, but no one does it like Michael Jackson. <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o -->k:

    ......Malachi



    I May be doing something with MJ in the future. At the moment, it's kind of up in the air, but I'll keep you posted.

    Thanks for the support.....Malachi



    Jason Malachi just might be opening up for MJ during his tour at the O2 arena in London.....will keep you posted.

    Best Wishes......Malachi


    Leaks are a mixed blessing. They generate a buzz, but it happens when you least expect it and it's hard to locate the source who leaked it.
    For example, "Mamacita" was not intended to be leaked. But someone leaked it and it generated a lot of publicity, and people thought it was a new Michael Jackson song, and it wasn't.
    It just goes to show that you can't trust anyone in the record buisness, really. However, this song was most likely leaked on purpose

    Love..........Malachi



    Mike has been working hard the last few years. Trust me. This is only the beginning.........

    Best Wishes......Malachi


    Michael has such a unique voice. I actually always sounded like Michael, even when I was younger, I sounded like him when he was in the Jackson 5. Ironically, even after my voice broke and changed, I suddenly sounded like the adult Michael Jackson!!

    Michael Jackson's voice (and overall style) has influenced legions of fans.

    Love...........Malachi



    I can't come forward with anything yet, but I will when I'm allowed to and things will make a lot of sense

    Love................Malachi



    I'm not allowed to reveal the details yet, but I have met Michael. :thud:


    Patience is a Virtue, Guys. You All Will Be Rewarded In A Way You Couldn't Possibly Imagine:wink:

    Love........Malachi


    I was always that one guy who was allegedly "obsessed" with Michael Jackson. All through middle and high school, I sang and danced like him. I studied every gesture, every dance move, every vocal, every grunt...hell, even every "Hee-Hee." I caught a lot of flack for it, but I didn't care. I'm 28 years old now, and let's just say that Michael Jackson is still a HUGE part of my life.

    These comments are very interesting. Malachi met Michael, and seems like a real MJ fan. He had plans to work with him, according to these comments . How is it then, that he would allow Sony to credit his vocals to MJ? Do you think he would do this to MJ? Plus, by doing this all he is gaining is a greater hate from MJ fans who already thought he was imitating Michael. He would never be able to sell an album under his name.

    I want to think otherwise, but if these comments are real, then this Malachi dude is MJ. His adult voice changed just like Michael's adult voice? Shamone now, that's just too much.
  • I would just like to point out that Taryll, who's been among the first ones questioning the authenticity of the songs on "Michael" has explicitly said that Hollywood Tonight IS MJ. He also said three tracks outta the ten are not MJ. Why didn't he say which ones are not MJ then? He's just stirring up the pot, IMO.

    If you say HT is MJ, then Monster and BN must be as well. If you say Monster and BN is not MJ, then I say neither is HT. Because they sound the same to me, voice-wise. So where is the truth?

    If Taryll wants to defend Michael's legacy (which is what he's been claiming all along), then why doesnt he step up and say: these songs are not MJ. It is this guy and this guy and Teddy is a liar and MJ is not alive. But no...he chose to be mysterious instead. I'm saying HE'S LOVING CONTROVERSY game.
  • After reading this thread I thought of OPUS NONE; confusion all over.With a persistent development like this I can only imagine MJ himself directing this chess game, creating the choreography and moving the characters at the right time.Was Opus None offered as an Intro to what happens since about a month time? The only thing I see happening is confusion all over with only a hand full of people being involved.
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  • Okay so I just listened to this video along with Breaking News and in the video posted, there is clearly a pitch change to make the voice sound altered. It is most noticeable when Michael goes high pitched as it does not sound completely natural for Michael's voice. When you listen to Breaking News, the voice is much more clear and the pitch is higher.

    Also whats with the lame 16bit audio? What does it have to hide? 16bits will hide just enough of the sound artifacts to give a more genuine sounding sample. This guy also has a page where he sings Michael Jackson songs with very little views. My assumption? He is using this to get views to his channel.

    As soon as they give me some 32Bit, 300kbps or FLAC accapella or demos of the songs then this guy's point is moot. Sorry that people have to see this propaganda. It is sickening.


    There is nothing lame about 16 bit audio with a 44.1 sampling rate it's the CD standard for years, so it isn't hiding anything, flac is in fact a compressed audio format, so please don't use terms if you don't know what they mean.
  • 2good2btrue2good2btrue Posts: 4,210
    This is a live performance of Jason Malachi:

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    Oh God...
  • 2good2btrue2good2btrue Posts: 4,210
    This Malachi makes me wanna ... <!-- s:x -->:x<!-- s:x -->

    Oh God...

    I couldn't agree with you more. Now, it doesn't mean he didn't record some songs for "Michael", but it proves just how much digtal enhancement can change someones voice so much. God Bless
  • I don't see how Monster can't be Michael. Along with the other songs. In the parts toward the end where he sounds furious about being stalked and haunted he just sounds like nobody else can. Like the MJ we know with all of the emotion we are used to. Some parts of the song sound like he isn't singing all out, but maybe that was the point. It sounds good, so I'd say the idea was to sing it how it is. He's also older now. Singing like he used to might be a little bit difficult now. I'm not totally sure on that; just a thought.
  • When I listen to those 3 songs - it depends what distance do I have to the speakers: when I sit in front of them I'm like: "No, it's not Michael" When I go to the kitchen an listen to it from the distance: I hear Michael! Then I turn my one ear: not Michael, the other ear: Michael!
    I think I am going crazy!
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  • SEHFSEHF Posts: 954
    This is a live performance of Jason Malachi:

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    [youtube:qlqw5wtk]

    I don't know what's worse his singing or those 'things' flopping around him.
  • RKRK Posts: 3,019
    This is a live performance of Jason Malachi:

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    I don't know what's worse his singing or those 'things' flopping around him.
    yep yep. Both equally offputting.
  • wishingstarwishingstar Posts: 2,927
    This is a live performance of Jason Malachi:

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    [youtube:1665wi9w]

    I don't know what's worse his singing or those 'things' flopping around him.

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    You took the words right off my keyboard!
    I haven't a clue as to why he is compared to Michael.....
    not by this video anyways.
    Blessings.......
  • nefarinefari Posts: 1,227
    This is NOT against or fussing at anyone who says Monster is not Michael but I swear I've been listening to Michael since I was a little kid in the 70s. To me Monster never has sounded like anyone but the real deal, Michael Jackson. It's a soaring fabulous vocal and the entire song just blows me away.
    To me Best of Joy is the horror of the album lol. It's totally Michael too but his voice is altered to a chipmonkish state.
  • This is NOT against or fussing at anyone who says Monster is not Michael but I swear I've been listening to Michael since I was a little kid in the 70s. To me Monster never has sounded like anyone but the real deal, Michael Jackson. It's a soaring fabulous vocal and the entire song just blows me away.
    To me Best of Joy is the horror of the album lol. It's totally Michael too but his voice is altered to a chipmonkish state.

    I completely agree. Monster is him. I still like Best of Joy, but I consider it just below a five on a one to five scale.
  • just checked and it seems that Tony deleted the video from YouTube
  • I would just like to point out that Taryll, who's been among the first ones questioning the authenticity of the songs on "Michael" has explicitly said that Hollywood Tonight IS MJ. He also said three tracks outta the ten are not MJ. Why didn't he say which ones are not MJ then? He's just stirring up the pot, IMO.

    If you say HT is MJ, then Monster and BN must be as well. If you say Monster and BN is not MJ, then I say neither is HT. Because they sound the same to me, voice-wise. So where is the truth?

    If Taryll wants to defend Michael's legacy (which is what he's been claiming all along), then why doesnt he step up and say: these songs are not MJ. It is this guy and this guy and Teddy is a liar and MJ is not alive. But no...he chose to be mysterious instead. I'm saying HE'S LOVING CONTROVERSY game.

    Agreed, I hear the same voices in "Hollywood Tonight" and "Monster".
  • 2good2btrue2good2btrue Posts: 4,210
    just checked and it seems that Tony deleted the video from YouTube

    Yeh, I just noticed that too......yesterday, I sent him the video of Jason Malachi singing live....as he said there has never been any video of him singing other than in recordings.. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->

    I guess that scared him off.....now, to believe or not to believe...that is the question.

    Obviously, he has something to hide.
  • PJ4MJPJ4MJ Posts: 323
    Did anybody download a copy of the Tony Kurtis video before it was pulled from YouTube?
  • 2good2btrue2good2btrue Posts: 4,210
    I didnt....sorry. Maybe one of the other members did. This is another one of him live.

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  • GraceGrace Posts: 2,864
    I once choose to believe from what I witnessed that Michael is alive.
    I choose to believe from what I witnessed that it's all Michael on the album.

    Why?
    Because the album is his open letter to those who can read him.
    It is not "throwing old material out on the market just to satisfy fans and Sony pockets".
    There would not have been so much dedication in unveiling the "making of" and a review of the old and a perspective on the new if it was just for marketing of some new releases.
    Nobody except Michael is dedicated to that degree we witnessed when it comes to his music and message.
    The composition of TII is a masterpiece and so is the album.

    Would he go so far to let himself be partially replaced by someone else?
    I'd say yes. If it is necessary for the cause and circumstances Michael will not hesitate to go for new borders.

    Remember the "Be a dot" project.
    Remember the fan picture project for the TII poster (zooming in...).
    Remember the unexplained "leaking" of all those unfinished tracks prior to the album release.
    Remember the official online distribution of the complete album before store sales.
    Michael is inviting us into his professional and personal life to be like him, to become him, to be "Michaelish" ourselves and to show us who else has "talent" - ourselves included.

    Michael is initiating and directing this close-up.
    That is my opinion and therefore in my eyes and ears the album is all Michael, whether it may be his voice or not. It is his concept, his thoughts, his wishes.
    Michael stepped far away from being only "the singer and dancer".
    Those expecting him to continue like they thought they knew him before June 25 will jump too short.

    What a L.O.V.E. shower and wonderful invitation to unite with Michael by connecting "the dots" - us - with him. The title gives this invitation as well - no programme for the album except "Michael". The artwork speaks volumes.
    I never have seen any artist welcoming the public so intensively and heartfully into his life.
    What a journey.... Thank you Michael. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
  • I once choose to believe from what I witnessed that Michael is alive.
    I choose to believe from what I witnessed that it's all Michael on the album.

    Why?
    Because the album is his open letter to those who can read him.
    It is not "throwing old material out on the market just to satisfy fans and Sony pockets".
    There would not have been so much dedication in unveiling the "making of" and a review of the old and a perspective on the new if it was just for marketing of some new releases.
    Nobody except Michael is dedicated to that degree we witnessed when it comes to his music and message.
    The composition of TII is a masterpiece and so is the album.

    Would he go so far to let himself be partially replaced by someone else?
    I'd say yes. If it is necessary for the cause and circumstances Michael will not hesitate to go for new borders.

    Remember the "Be a dot" project.
    Remember the fan picture project for the TII poster (zooming in...).
    Remember the unexplained "leaking" of all those unfinished tracks prior to the album release.
    Remember the official online distribution of the complete album before store sales.
    Michael is inviting us into his professional and personal life to be like him, to become him, to be "Michaelish" ourselves and to show us who else has "talent" - ourselves included.

    Michael is initiating and directing this close-up.
    That is my opinion and therefore in my eyes and ears the album is all Michael, whether it may be his voice or not. It is his concept, his thoughts, his wishes.
    Michael stepped far away from being only "the singer and dancer".
    Those expecting him to continue like they thought they knew him before June 25 will jump too short.

    What a L.O.V.E. shower and wonderful invitation to unite with Michael by connecting "the dots" - us - with him. The title gives this invitation as well - no programme for the album except "Michael". The artwork speaks volumes.
    I never have seen any artist welcoming the public so intensively and heartfully into his life.
    What a journey.... Thank you Michael. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->

    I certainly agree. This album is not "just" an album, there's much more to it. Michael does the directing of the album project and uses an onconventinal and innovating marketing strategy, i.e. the "leaks", the Cascio's and the controversial news about the voices. Clever thinking!
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