Hi guys,
I'm not an avid reader of TS' posts (I truly apologize for that <!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: --> ) so maybe I do not understand the value of his post, but my question is what's the use of trying to figure this all out? I thought that, now we are (hopefully) getting closer to a possible bam, there will be more important reasons to learn about this hoax. I feel that this post of TS does not add any important information, except the fact Michaels death really was fake and staged. But we came to that conclusion a long time ago right? I haven't post much lately because I had the feeling we were running around in circles and I get that same feeling once again with this particular post. I hope someone can explain to me what's the reason for this post, what kind of information in it will help us to UNDERSTAND the reasons of the hoax? Hugs
I must have asked a really stupid question, because noone took the time to give me a (short) answer. I know I do not belong to the group of regular posters, but I'm a bit disappointed and I feel ignored. We can continue to repeat the same old stuff again and again but my question is: what's the use of it and aren't there much more important things to learn whether it is or isn't the same ambulance? Please fill me in!
To get a complete, coherent theory. The forum is full of theories and beliefs, this way we will come to just one, solid theory that can be backed up with evidence.
Thank you Souza for answering me <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> . I do understand what you are saying, but I still feel this evidence isn't important anymore. If Michael decides to return, I believe that the world isn't interested in HOW he did it, but WHY he did it. This feels like keeping us 'busy' in a quit time with no news.
Well I am interested, and I think that after the shock of the return and the questions of the 'whys', people sure want to know how the hell he fooled them that long.
OK, that I understand! I do hope he makes a hell of a movie of it!!!
I guess if you want to determine if it's the actual #71 ambulance or just one that looks almost like it we could start back with the cabinets that don't appear to match. The white/silver trim around the cabinet in the video is not seen in the ambulance photo.
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I would like to ask you a question, why is the ambulance with the fire department? I am asking because here in Montreal,Canada our ambulances do not belong to the fire department. I just thought maybe that explains the hoaxed ambulance.
IMO there is NO way unless Michael totally explains how and why, that I'll believe this is a number game with Michale and hoaxing. I do not think he was planning it and set down and said, geez I have to do it this day, or can't do it that way because the numbers don't work out. Oh, down the road, these numbers don't work out so we have to scrap that too...
Nope,I think his agenda was way to intense to have to do this to begin with and I don't believe he had time, or put his need to do it on the cusp of numbers matching up.
JMO
Ex-UCLA Worker Pleads Guilty To Selling Celebrity Medical Records
LOS ANGELES — A former employee of UCLA Medical Center pleaded guilty Monday to selling information from the medical records of celebrities and high-profile patients, including Britney Spears and Farrah Fawcett, to the National Enquirer.
Lawanda Jackson, 49, spoke quietly as she entered her plea to the felony charge of violating federal medical privacy law for commercial purposes in U.S. District Court.
She faces a maximum sentence of 10 years in prison, followed by three years of supervised release, and a $250,000 fine. Sentencing is set for May.
Jackson and her attorney, Angel Navarro, declined to comment after the hearing.
Jackson worked as an administrative specialist at the UCLA hospitals for 32 years and in recent years began using her supervisor's password to access medical records inappropriately, authorities said.
The tabloid deposited checks totaling at least $4,600 into her husband's checking account beginning in 2006, prosecutors said. Jackson resigned in July 2007 before she could be fired.
Jackson and state officials have disclosed that records for Spears, Fawcett and California first lady Maria Shriver were among those breached.
Fawcett's attorney, Kim Swartz, said in April that the star's cancer diagnosis and details of her treatment showed up in the National Enquirer after an employee at the hospital accessed her medical records.
Do you think the hospital might be taking extra careful measures to avoid another issue like this one with Farrah? I believe that the UCLA ER personnel would absolutely keep their mouths shut (without having to sign a contract for the hoax) because of this issue in the past. The ER people don't need to be in the know for this to work. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
In a real emergency most people are not focused on faces. They are focused on the illness, injury, etc. If Michael did ride in the ambulance as a paramedic or the guy sitting up on the strecher (remember that guy) the people in the ER wouldn't be looking to see if he is Michael. They would be focused on fixing the patient.
The guy sitting up on the strecher at the ER doors in my opinion is another subliminal clue to get people wondering WTH is going on. I think those pictures of the ambulance at the ER doors are staged also.
There is also the guy who is filmed through the gate and he is suspect to me as being Michael. That would connect the dot to the paramedic in question being him.
Mass confusion happened that day at UCLA when the news broke.
People were/are under a spell. <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) -->
P.S. You do know who that is? CA Gov. Arnold's wife.
guys. please forgive me i know we are supposed to be focused on the paramedics but. that middle picture caught my eye. could someone who has proper equipment or experties look at it a little closer. in the reflection of the glass i see a face . it seems a bit familiar. then maybe i should go have a comfy time out in my corner. <!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: -->
oh yeah . didn't kenny testify to michael saying something about equipment would be arriving the next day for the illusion?
guys. please forgive me i know we are supposed to be focused on the paramedics but. that middle picture caught my eye. could someone who has proper equipment or experties look at it a little closer. in the reflection of the glass i see a face . it seems a bit familiar. then maybe i should go have a comfy time out in my corner. <!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: -->
oh yeah . didn't kenny testify to michael saying something about equipment would be arriving the next day for the illusion?
u mean this face??
yep might be nothin' but my add <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
Maybe there was no ambulance before June 25th MJ could of simply used the real photo (the one on June 25th) and then taken pictures for the outside and put those two together. Since there was two days (that day and the other day) that would mean the paramedics weren't in on the hoax. Because just say they were in on the hoax then there would be no point to have 2 seperate days to produce the photo. But what I also don't know is why MJ used two seperate days couldn't he just do it on one day?
Also what is the point in having a fake photo?, is it to get to the non believers, if so couldn't MJ just simply photoshop it like any other person would, instead of having to go through all that trouble,or does MJ like to make things a little more complicated then it should be?
if real paramedics made a real call that day, then was it not for a real person? i have this feeling that the thing about the dead homeless person at the courthouse is connected in some way.
There had to be a real ambulance at Carolwood Dve, to help start the illusion....
Yes, if you mean on 6-25-09. However, my statement was referring to a staged photo before 6-25-09. Here is my statement again: "For example: if the ambulance photo was staged before 6-25-09, why bother bringing the ambulance to Carolwood Drive [before 6-25-09]—just to take a photo of things inside the ambulance?"
I haven't read all 3 pages yet, so this theory could have been written before. Here is my theory regarding to the ambulance issue. An ambulance that looks like the real ambulance came to a studio or Michael's house before 6-25-09. There were actors to play paramedics. And the pictures were taken on that day. And the ambulance went to the hospital with Michael inside on that day as well where we had these photos of him getting into the hospital sitting on the stretcher.
And on 6-25-2009 a real ambulance came to MJ's house with real paramedics and they found an old Asian looking man, probably who died hours ago and tried to survive him. And that is the reason why the paramedics said the patient didn't look like Michael. I still believe a dead body was used on 6-25 because of the paramedics' comments about the patient and how MJ's room was kept warm in the middle of summer. And the paramedics who are in court are also the real paramedics who went MJ's house on 6-25. I do not know if they said anything related how the patient looked like on that day in their testimony but probably they thought that MJ was so sick and fragile and that was the reason why he looked like an old guy. Michael can be the most famous person in this world but he wasn't in front of the cameras for some time and not everyone is his fans to follow and catch up what he looks like recently.
Michael had to use a fake ambulance to make fake photos because you could never know if someone (who has an agreement like Ben or some random people who were there) can take a nice shot of inside of the ambulance when the ambulance is moving. The scene needed to look real on 6-25 and there had to be witnesses that an ambulance was there on that day. And the ambulance was slow, without the sirens but still it couldn't stop and wait there for people to get nice shots through tinted windows.
So I believe that is the reason why Michael staged an ambulance scene before the real one on 6-25. And he used photoshop and changed his face, added some extra clues for us to understand the ambo pic is fake. BUT it couldn't be too fake to make everyone understand that it is fake. Until the statement came from Brian Oxman due to fake ambulance picture, people(non-believers) were still considering it as a real picture.
Probably Ben was called on the staged ambo day and on the real ambo day, to take the pictures on the staged ambo day and to be there on 6-25 to talk and make a statement like he was the one who took the ambo pictures. Do we even see this guy around the ambulance or his friend what ever he looks like on 6-25? And why that guy who took the picture doesn't talk but Ben does? To make a "goof" like "... on that day and the other d... umm"?
I don't think the court was real. That doesn't mean anyone in that room is in on the hoax, but at least the key people and (some) witnesses. The trial isn't going to be real either. Like Jermaine said, first justice, then truth. Which means no truth in the trial (fake), but justice. How? I guess we just need to sit back and watch it.
What justice? If this is a hoax, Murrey must be aquitted of charges. If this is not a hoax, then it is murder, Murrey must be charged w/ first degree murder with conspiracy, not manslaughter. But there is not enough evidence for murder, so murder is not in DA's charges.Only family claims it is a murder.
There is no justice going to be either way, then when will be the truth? Unless I don't understand what you mean by "not real", the court and key people are real. There is no way they all know Michael is alive and having investigation and trial. This mean they all believe Michael is dead and they do their job.
Now, why they believe Michael is dead? Based on autopsy only. Because no LAPD, DA, nor judge, jury, or any authority have seen Michael actually dead. EXCEPT FOR CORONER. So, the hoax goes up to the coroner office. Beyond that office, all real. What happens in LA county coroner, how we got AR, is it based on someone dead body, or is it real Michael, or bribed coroner? Those are questions we need to challenge.
There had to be a real ambulance at Carolwood Dve, to help start the illusion....
Yes, if you mean on 6-25-09. However, my statement was referring to a staged photo before 6-25-09. Here is my statement again: "For example: if the ambulance photo was staged before 6-25-09, why bother bringing the ambulance to Carolwood Drive [before 6-25-09]—just to take a photo of things inside the ambulance?"
Probably Ben was called on the staged ambo day and on the real ambo day, to take the pictures on the staged ambo day and to be there on 6-25 to talk and make a statement like he was the one who took the ambo pictures. Do we even see this guy around the ambulance or his friend what ever he looks like on 6-25? And why that guy who took the picture doesn't talk but Ben does? To make a "goof" like "... on that day and the other d... umm"? [/b]
It's like a duo. We have Batman & Robin. We know Batman is the leader. Batman does all the talking. Is Batman & Robin...not Robin & Batman. It's the Bat-mobile, not the Rob-mobile. Maybe Ben is like Batman and had to do all the talking. My opinion... <!-- s --><!-- s -->
The next level means that we are now going to shift the focus from the ambulance picture (whether it was real or fake, etc) to whether or not some or all of the paramedics are in on the hoax. Did the actual paramedics pose for a staged ambulance shot before 6-25-09? Or did MJ use actors dressed like paramedics? Was the ambulance photo staged with the actual #71 LAFD ambulance, or another one that looks about the same inside? Would the real paramedics publicly deny the ambulance photo, if it was not them in the picture (and they were not in on the hoax)?
Using what tools? The same photos we have? Can we still extract evidence from those? I feel I'm gonna be stuck in High School for a while. <!-- s --><!-- s -->
There had to be a real ambulance at Carolwood Dve, to help start the illusion....
Yes, if you mean on 6-25-09. However, my statement was referring to a staged photo before 6-25-09. Here is my statement again: "For example: if the ambulance photo was staged before 6-25-09, why bother bringing the ambulance to Carolwood Drive [before 6-25-09]—just to take a photo of things inside the ambulance?"
Probably Ben was called on the staged ambo day and on the real ambo day, to take the pictures on the staged ambo day and to be there on 6-25 to talk and make a statement like he was the one who took the ambo pictures. Do we even see this guy around the ambulance or his friend what ever he looks like on 6-25? And why that guy who took the picture doesn't talk but Ben does? To make a "goof" like "... on that day and the other d... umm"? [/b]
It's like a duo. We have Batman & Robin. We know Batman is the leader. Batman does all the talking. Is Batman & Robin...not Robin & Batman. It's the Bat-mobile, not the Rob-mobile. Maybe Ben is like Batman and had to do all the talking. My opinion... <!-- s --><!-- s -->
Poor Robin. Batman gets all the credit. <!-- s --><!-- s -->
I think that the ambulance photo was taken prier to 6/25 and it was staged with actors or like someone stated before they seem to never move so could
Be dummies. And it was the real Michael lying there for the photo.
Then on 6/25 the real paramedics came out to the house and they did not recognize the person as being Michael because it was not him. It was someone that
Was on there death bead and gave permission to use there body for this hoax (who knows a good pay out to help family members with expenses)
And what we saw at the hospital was real because there would have to be way too many people involved to keep an eye on.
With a fake body and all the statements that he was in poor health why would any of the medical staff question all the family members that were there?
Just a quick thought. I could be way off.
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A recording that is believed to detail the moment paramedics broke the news of Michael Jackson’s death has emerged.
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By Ben Leach 7:44AM GMT 24 Feb 2010
The tape is thought to feature a Los Angeles Fire Department medical worker calling the UCLA hospital.
The voice on the recording says: “Patient is Michael Jackson, the pop star singer. No pulse, no breathing.
“Unresponsive. Tried to resuscitate him. Unsuccessful. We’ve done everything we can. We should be there in five minutes. It doesn’t look good. It doesn’t look good.”
The tape emerged on an ambulance workers’ internet forum, according to The Sun.
An LAFD spokesman said: “I couldn’t confirm that it is one of our workers. It could be. They refer to “pop star Michael Jackson” but it is not our practice to name names.”
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If genuine, the recording may be used as evidence in Dr Conrad Murray’s trial over involuntary manslaughter charges later this year.
It contradicts Dr Murray’s claims. He said that Jackson was still warm and had a pulse when he put him in the ambulance.
He has admitted giving the singer a cocktail of drugs including Propofol, the powerful sedative.
Jackson died on June 25 last year aged 50 while preparing for his forthcoming This Is It concert series at the O2 Arena in London.
*EDIT*: I found other articles saying that this is a fake call (conversation). Sorry for bringing this before looking into it.
Not only are the paramedics actors on the fake photo, but they have to be actors on June 25th as well. They responded to the 911 call. It's a serious offense to make a 911 call for non-real events. During the call the 911 operator actually hangs up on MJ's security gaurd who makes the call, which they should never do, therefore fake. Fake 911 operator would only "dispatch" actor paramedics. Notice no sirens either as they go to the hospital. 71 amb. would simply be performing as in a movie usage.
MJhasSpoken
Also what is the point in having a fake photo?, is it to get to the non believers, if so couldn't MJ just simply photoshop it like any other person would, instead of having to go through all that trouble,or does MJ like to make things a little more complicated then it should be?
If Michael really wanted to just fake his death and fade into the sunset to some hidden paradise forever, he would have made everything very authentic and very real, impossible to find flaws. But the thousands of slip-ups, inconsistencies and wacky things show he clearly wants to be discovered to be hoaxing us. In fact I believe there is beautiful harmony. Dots to be connected, related themes and patterns. TS has shown the irrefutable incredible numerology in the hoax. I remember way back it was talked about all the 2's in the hoax. 02 arena, talk of doubles in TII, 2 -TII versions, 2 -911 calls, "this and the other d...", 2 ambulances, 2 Dave-Dave's, and more I can't think of.
I too, have thought about the great risks some key people are taking by being part of the hoax, particularly Murray, Kenny Ortega and some others who are percieved by some as participating in a murder. All it takes is one crazed fan. MJ must have to pay them extra, or they love him no matter what happens. This is surely an extreme adventure for them.
Im_convincedmjalive, this television series is interesting for who they are focusing on.
Michael Jackson, Tupac Shakur, and Anna Nicole Smith are only three of seven celebrities whose crime scenes are scheduled to be investigated during Famous Crime Scene's first season on VH1.
The series, which airs from 9-9:30 p.m. EST on Fridays, is slated to also
examine the untimely losses of John Lennon, Marvin Gaye, The Notorious B.I.G. and Selena.
This ones better....no distractions.
What is the problem with that call?
answer....NOTHING.
It is a typical call where you would hear one party
talking to the other about a said situation.
I guess none of you have ever had a police scanner?
I will post this picture of Michael again........he had a paramedic shirt made up for him, and who knows where he kept it all these years. It's obviously really easy to get a uniform made up if you're Michael Jackson...
And Twiggy from MJhoax live has been in the courtroom, at every trial. She would have recognised the paramedics and would be the first to report that they didn't look the same, but unfortunatley, they did. They were the same men as in the pictures..
Not only are the paramedics actors on the fake photo, but they have to be actors on June 25th as well. They responded to the 911 call. It's a serious offense to make a 911 call for non-real events. During the call the 911 operator actually hangs up on MJ's security gaurd who makes the call, which they should never do, therefore fake. Fake 911 operator would only "dispatch" actor paramedics. Notice no sirens either as they go to the hospital. 71 amb. would simply be performing as in a movie usage.
What if there is a real 911 call and a staged one and the one we heard is the staged one?
Just wondering...
Do you think the cabinet from the pictures match the cabinet from the video? Wouldn't that white border show up in the pictures?
Good catch! I'm glad somebody noticed this--it is one of the "secrets" that I have been planning on pointing out, if nobody found it. But I'm always glad when someone else finds it first. There is one more thing about this that I will include later, if nobody else gets it first.
TS, I was wondering what the other one more thing you were going to include. Did you write it to us already or someone else has found it or are you waiting for the ambulance research/discussion to end?
Funny....the paparazzi are right behind the ambulance on their way to the hospital with 4 man?
Arriving at the hospital and such bad pics and vid, far away and not even close?
Normally paps jump out of their car, and come close to the victim they are chasing.
To get the best shot for the day.
But hell no....they stayed far away, no time to get out of the car or even run to the ambulance.
They had the camera on, you can see it in a video with Ben.
No pics of the ambulance arriving at the hospital?
No pics of the stretcher getting out of the ambulance?
Bad job Ben.
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Chappie
Indeed where are all the many competing paps for house or UCLA on June 25, only Ben's company.
If a tree falls in the forest and there's no one around to hear it, does it make a sound?
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Does anyone remember way back there was either a video or a post focusing on faces that seemed to reappear for different roles in the hoax as in actors/actresses, like in the earlier Murray court preliminaries, security guards, a particular MJ fan group, and more? Thanks.
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OK, that I understand! I do hope he makes a hell of a movie of it!!!
I would like to ask you a question, why is the ambulance with the fire department? I am asking because here in Montreal,Canada our ambulances do not belong to the fire department. I just thought maybe that explains the hoaxed ambulance.
Nope,I think his agenda was way to intense to have to do this to begin with and I don't believe he had time, or put his need to do it on the cusp of numbers matching up.
JMO
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Ex-UCLA Worker Pleads Guilty To Selling Celebrity Medical Records Do you think the hospital might be taking extra careful measures to avoid another issue like this one with Farrah? I believe that the UCLA ER personnel would absolutely keep their mouths shut (without having to sign a contract for the hoax) because of this issue in the past. The ER people don't need to be in the know for this to work. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
In a real emergency most people are not focused on faces. They are focused on the illness, injury, etc. If Michael did ride in the ambulance as a paramedic or the guy sitting up on the strecher (remember that guy) the people in the ER wouldn't be looking to see if he is Michael. They would be focused on fixing the patient.
The guy sitting up on the strecher at the ER doors in my opinion is another subliminal clue to get people wondering WTH is going on. I think those pictures of the ambulance at the ER doors are staged also.
There is also the guy who is filmed through the gate and he is suspect to me as being Michael. That would connect the dot to the paramedic in question being him.
Mass confusion happened that day at UCLA when the news broke.
People were/are under a spell. <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) -->
P.S. You do know who that is? CA Gov. Arnold's wife.
u mean this face??
yep might be nothin' but my add <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
Also what is the point in having a fake photo?, is it to get to the non believers, if so couldn't MJ just simply photoshop it like any other person would, instead of having to go through all that trouble,or does MJ like to make things a little more complicated then it should be?
I haven't read all 3 pages yet, so this theory could have been written before. Here is my theory regarding to the ambulance issue. An ambulance that looks like the real ambulance came to a studio or Michael's house before 6-25-09. There were actors to play paramedics. And the pictures were taken on that day. And the ambulance went to the hospital with Michael inside on that day as well where we had these photos of him getting into the hospital sitting on the stretcher.
And on 6-25-2009 a real ambulance came to MJ's house with real paramedics and they found an old Asian looking man, probably who died hours ago and tried to survive him. And that is the reason why the paramedics said the patient didn't look like Michael. I still believe a dead body was used on 6-25 because of the paramedics' comments about the patient and how MJ's room was kept warm in the middle of summer. And the paramedics who are in court are also the real paramedics who went MJ's house on 6-25. I do not know if they said anything related how the patient looked like on that day in their testimony but probably they thought that MJ was so sick and fragile and that was the reason why he looked like an old guy. Michael can be the most famous person in this world but he wasn't in front of the cameras for some time and not everyone is his fans to follow and catch up what he looks like recently.
Michael had to use a fake ambulance to make fake photos because you could never know if someone (who has an agreement like Ben or some random people who were there) can take a nice shot of inside of the ambulance when the ambulance is moving. The scene needed to look real on 6-25 and there had to be witnesses that an ambulance was there on that day. And the ambulance was slow, without the sirens but still it couldn't stop and wait there for people to get nice shots through tinted windows.
So I believe that is the reason why Michael staged an ambulance scene before the real one on 6-25. And he used photoshop and changed his face, added some extra clues for us to understand the ambo pic is fake. BUT it couldn't be too fake to make everyone understand that it is fake. Until the statement came from Brian Oxman due to fake ambulance picture, people(non-believers) were still considering it as a real picture.
Probably Ben was called on the staged ambo day and on the real ambo day, to take the pictures on the staged ambo day and to be there on 6-25 to talk and make a statement like he was the one who took the ambo pictures. Do we even see this guy around the ambulance or his friend what ever he looks like on 6-25? And why that guy who took the picture doesn't talk but Ben does? To make a "goof" like "... on that day and the other d... umm"?
What justice? If this is a hoax, Murrey must be aquitted of charges. If this is not a hoax, then it is murder, Murrey must be charged w/ first degree murder with conspiracy, not manslaughter. But there is not enough evidence for murder, so murder is not in DA's charges.Only family claims it is a murder.
There is no justice going to be either way, then when will be the truth? Unless I don't understand what you mean by "not real", the court and key people are real. There is no way they all know Michael is alive and having investigation and trial. This mean they all believe Michael is dead and they do their job.
Now, why they believe Michael is dead? Based on autopsy only. Because no LAPD, DA, nor judge, jury, or any authority have seen Michael actually dead. EXCEPT FOR CORONER. So, the hoax goes up to the coroner office. Beyond that office, all real. What happens in LA county coroner, how we got AR, is it based on someone dead body, or is it real Michael, or bribed coroner? Those are questions we need to challenge.
It's like a duo. We have Batman & Robin. We know Batman is the leader. Batman does all the talking. Is Batman & Robin...not Robin & Batman. It's the Bat-mobile, not the Rob-mobile. Maybe Ben is like Batman and had to do all the talking. My opinion... <!-- s
Using what tools? The same photos we have? Can we still extract evidence from those? I feel I'm gonna be stuck in High School for a while. <!-- s
Poor Robin. Batman gets all the credit. <!-- s
Be dummies. And it was the real Michael lying there for the photo.
Then on 6/25 the real paramedics came out to the house and they did not recognize the person as being Michael because it was not him. It was someone that
Was on there death bead and gave permission to use there body for this hoax (who knows a good pay out to help family members with expenses)
And what we saw at the hospital was real because there would have to be way too many people involved to keep an eye on.
With a fake body and all the statements that he was in poor health why would any of the medical staff question all the family members that were there?
Just a quick thought. I could be way off.
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BTW Thank you TS for staying with us.
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Michael Jackson: paramedic tape revealed
A recording that is believed to detail the moment paramedics broke the news of Michael Jackson’s death has emerged.
[youtube:7lwauqqy]
By Ben Leach 7:44AM GMT 24 Feb 2010
The tape is thought to feature a Los Angeles Fire Department medical worker calling the UCLA hospital.
The voice on the recording says: “Patient is Michael Jackson, the pop star singer. No pulse, no breathing.
“Unresponsive. Tried to resuscitate him. Unsuccessful. We’ve done everything we can. We should be there in five minutes. It doesn’t look good. It doesn’t look good.”
The tape emerged on an ambulance workers’ internet forum, according to The Sun.
An LAFD spokesman said: “I couldn’t confirm that it is one of our workers. It could be. They refer to “pop star Michael Jackson” but it is not our practice to name names.”
Related Articles
If genuine, the recording may be used as evidence in Dr Conrad Murray’s trial over involuntary manslaughter charges later this year.
It contradicts Dr Murray’s claims. He said that Jackson was still warm and had a pulse when he put him in the ambulance.
He has admitted giving the singer a cocktail of drugs including Propofol, the powerful sedative.
Jackson died on June 25 last year aged 50 while preparing for his forthcoming This Is It concert series at the O2 Arena in London.
*EDIT*: I found other articles saying that this is a fake call (conversation). Sorry for bringing this before looking into it.
If Michael really wanted to just fake his death and fade into the sunset to some hidden paradise forever, he would have made everything very authentic and very real, impossible to find flaws. But the thousands of slip-ups, inconsistencies and wacky things show he clearly wants to be discovered to be hoaxing us. In fact I believe there is beautiful harmony. Dots to be connected, related themes and patterns. TS has shown the irrefutable incredible numerology in the hoax. I remember way back it was talked about all the 2's in the hoax. 02 arena, talk of doubles in TII, 2 -TII versions, 2 -911 calls, "this and the other d...", 2 ambulances, 2 Dave-Dave's, and more I can't think of.
I too, have thought about the great risks some key people are taking by being part of the hoax, particularly Murray, Kenny Ortega and some others who are percieved by some as participating in a murder. All it takes is one crazed fan. MJ must have to pay them extra, or they love him no matter what happens. This is surely an extreme adventure for them.
Im_convincedmjalive, this television series is interesting for who they are focusing on.
This ones better....no distractions.
What is the problem with that call?
answer....NOTHING.
It is a typical call where you would hear one party
talking to the other about a said situation.
I guess none of you have ever had a police scanner?
And Twiggy from MJhoax live has been in the courtroom, at every trial. She would have recognised the paramedics and would be the first to report that they didn't look the same, but unfortunatley, they did. They were the same men as in the pictures..
What if there is a real 911 call and a staged one and the one we heard is the staged one?
TS, I was wondering what the other one more thing you were going to include. Did you write it to us already or someone else has found it or are you waiting for the ambulance research/discussion to end?
Arriving at the hospital and such bad pics and vid, far away and not even close?
Normally paps jump out of their car, and come close to the victim they are chasing.
To get the best shot for the day.
But hell no....they stayed far away, no time to get out of the car or even run to the ambulance.
They had the camera on, you can see it in a video with Ben.
No pics of the ambulance arriving at the hospital?
No pics of the stretcher getting out of the ambulance?
Bad job Ben.
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Chappie
lmfao!
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Does anyone remember way back there was either a video or a post focusing on faces that seemed to reappear for different roles in the hoax as in actors/actresses, like in the earlier Murray court preliminaries, security guards, a particular MJ fan group, and more? Thanks.