MJ's Billie Jean vs "MJ's" Billie Jean

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  • sweet1sweet1 Posts: 312

    One is a liddle off, Mike never changed Billie Jean and he wasn't 'too old'. So what's this MJ's excuse?


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    Souza! You absolutely right! It's not just a little off. There is a big difference in the way he moves. MJ always rehearsed as though it was the actual performance to perfect any error. He was barely moving in TII and he did none of his signature moves for Billie Jean. I guess his father was right all along about TII having lots of doubles. Perhaps! that's why alot of the Jackson Family didn't attend the premeire. Great catch sweetie! Thanks for the post! Keep the Faith!
  • rasyterasyte Posts: 484
    I would just like to add -again to the people who feel bad that they cannot recognize him- that Michael's appearance is incredibly unique and he has very distinguished features, so if you're going to disguise MJ you better be sure it's a good one! We all know he was the master of disguise.
    When I first saw Ghosts I didn't know the old man was him, and you can even see his eyes in that movie. Of course I was young, and I mean now that I know it, it couldn't be more obvious, especially by the way he talks.
    Remember Michael said that he could even fool his own mother with his disguises.

    I'm happy I'm not his mother..<!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->DD I would feel even worse then... <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> but still.. I'm feeling guilty coz I can't recognize him.. <!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: -->
  • rasyterasyte Posts: 484

    One is a liddle off, Mike never changed Billie Jean and he wasn't 'too old'. So what's this MJ's excuse?


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    Full screen on YouTube: <!-- m -->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaeWuyuzxWE<!-- m -->


    Souza! You absolutely right! It's not just a little off. There is a big difference in the way he moves. MJ always rehearsed as though it was the actual performance to perfect any error. He was barely moving in TII and he did none of his signature moves for Billie Jean. I guess his father was right all along about TII having lots of doubles. Perhaps! that's why alot of the Jackson Family didn't attend the premeire. Great catch sweetie! Thanks for the post! Keep the Faith!

    if it's impersonator dont you think he would do those Billie Jean moves...? to fool us? <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
  • SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400

    One is a liddle off, Mike never changed Billie Jean and he wasn't 'too old'. So what's this MJ's excuse?


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    Full screen on YouTube: <!-- m -->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaeWuyuzxWE<!-- m -->


    Souza! You absolutely right! It's not just a little off. There is a big difference in the way he moves. MJ always rehearsed as though it was the actual performance to perfect any error. He was barely moving in TII and he did none of his signature moves for Billie Jean. I guess his father was right all along about TII having lots of doubles. Perhaps! that's why alot of the Jackson Family didn't attend the premeire. Great catch sweetie! Thanks for the post! Keep the Faith!

    if it's impersonator dont you think he would do those Billie Jean moves...? to fool us? <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->

    No, because it is MEANT for the fans to see...

    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

  • rasyterasyte Posts: 484

    One is a liddle off, Mike never changed Billie Jean and he wasn't 'too old'. So what's this MJ's excuse?


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    Full screen on YouTube: <!-- m -->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaeWuyuzxWE<!-- m -->


    Souza! You absolutely right! It's not just a little off. There is a big difference in the way he moves. MJ always rehearsed as though it was the actual performance to perfect any error. He was barely moving in TII and he did none of his signature moves for Billie Jean. I guess his father was right all along about TII having lots of doubles. Perhaps! that's why alot of the Jackson Family didn't attend the premeire. Great catch sweetie! Thanks for the post! Keep the Faith!

    if it's impersonator dont you think he would do those Billie Jean moves...? to fool us? <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->

    No, because it is MEANT for the fans to see...

    yea... you right about this... my head hurts...

  • One is a liddle off, Mike never changed Billie Jean and he wasn't 'too old'. So what's this MJ's excuse?


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    Are We Already Learning In A Subliminal Way?
    .....by Melvin D. Saunders

    ........In a way, what we consciously see is all there is to see, but all there is to see is much more than what we see. What do we perceive on a subconscious level that we do not see on a conscious level? Since we can perceive more with an attentive expectation mind set, is attentiveness consciousness? People are immersed in subliminal stimuli all day long. Many sounds, smells and visual input occur without conscious acknowledgement, but are nevertheless subconsciously recorded. Human beings sense, perceive and react to a lot of consciously undetected stimuli. Ultrasonics, infrasonics, radar, microwaves and various forms of radiation can produce bodily reactions without conscious awareness, so obviously there are various levels of awareness within human beings. Even while asleep or with certain brain areas anesthetized, other brain areas can perceive certain things and cause the body to respond to stimuli.


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    Subliminal Messages: Deceiving the Mind
    By Autumn C. Koerbel,
    Special Feature, AskMen.com

    Although you might not realize it, subliminal messages are probably being used on you. Used mainly as advertising tools, such messages are designed to be relayed without their targets ever being conscious of them.

    Part of The Plan was to deceive us into thinking Michael was sick, frail, on drugs, dieing, so this performance in TII was ALL part of that plan.

    The families comments about doubles are Part of The Plan to plant subliminal messages for us to continue to think Michael was sick, frail, on drugs, dieing, and that doubles were used in TII.

    IMO Michael was "acting" strangely for the purpose of "Illusion".

    This was Michael in TII performance of Billie Jean.
    Peace
  • rasyterasyte Posts: 484
    Part of The Plan was to deceive us into thinking Michael was sick, frail, on drugs, dieing, so this performance in TII was ALL part of that plan.

    The families comments about doubles are Part of The Plan to plant subliminal messages for us to continue to think Michael was sick, frail, on drugs, dieing, and that doubles were used in TII.

    IMO Michael was "acting" strangely for the purpose of "Illusion".

    This was Michael in TII performance of Billie Jean.
    Peace

    I hope you are right... my heart tells me it's Michael.. but eyes see man acting strange, not like our Michael.. so I really hope you are right.. <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->

  • One is a liddle off, Mike never changed Billie Jean and he wasn't 'too old'. So what's this MJ's excuse?


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    <!-- m -->http://www.braincourse.com/subliminala.html<!-- m -->
    Are We Already Learning In A Subliminal Way?
    .....by Melvin D. Saunders

    ........In a way, what we consciously see is all there is to see, but all there is to see is much more than what we see. What do we perceive on a subconscious level that we do not see on a conscious level? Since we can perceive more with an attentive expectation mind set, is attentiveness consciousness? People are immersed in subliminal stimuli all day long. Many sounds, smells and visual input occur without conscious acknowledgement, but are nevertheless subconsciously recorded. Human beings sense, perceive and react to a lot of consciously undetected stimuli. Ultrasonics, infrasonics, radar, microwaves and various forms of radiation can produce bodily reactions without conscious awareness, so obviously there are various levels of awareness within human beings. Even while asleep or with certain brain areas anesthetized, other brain areas can perceive certain things and cause the body to respond to stimuli.


    <!-- m -->http://www.mindpowernews.com/Subliminals.htm<!-- m -->
    Subliminal Messages: Deceiving the Mind
    By Autumn C. Koerbel,
    Special Feature, AskMen.com

    Although you might not realize it, subliminal messages are probably being used on you. Used mainly as advertising tools, such messages are designed to be relayed without their targets ever being conscious of them.

    Part of The Plan was to deceive us into thinking Michael was sick, frail, on drugs, dieing, so this performance in TII was ALL part of that plan.

    The families comments about doubles are Part of The Plan to plant subliminal messages for us to continue to think Michael was sick, frail, on drugs, dieing, and that doubles were used in TII.

    IMO Michael was "acting" strangely for the purpose of "Illusion".

    This was Michael in TII performance of Billie Jean.
    Peace

    I agree with you, Im_convincedmjalive. This really isn't about an actual "physical" double and a broadening of perspectives is required here; opening one's mind to ideas and possibilities and looking for a deeper meaning not just a "literal" one. So much of this adventure has been in alternate meanings to things than we see at first glance, for instance the DOTS of TMZ articles. It isn't what we first perceive it to be, there is something deeper there if you just take a closer look. The same is for the "Doubles, it isn't meant to be a physical double but something much more relevant to our perceptions of the world around us. We really are being directed to philosophical theories and how psychological principals are being used in all forms of media etc to manipulate our perceptions.

  • One is a liddle off, Mike never changed Billie Jean and he wasn't 'too old'. So what's this MJ's excuse?


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    Full screen on YouTube: <!-- m -->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaeWuyuzxWE<!-- m -->

    <!-- m -->http://www.braincourse.com/subliminala.html<!-- m -->
    Are We Already Learning In A Subliminal Way?
    .....by Melvin D. Saunders

    ........In a way, what we consciously see is all there is to see, but all there is to see is much more than what we see. What do we perceive on a subconscious level that we do not see on a conscious level? Since we can perceive more with an attentive expectation mind set, is attentiveness consciousness? People are immersed in subliminal stimuli all day long. Many sounds, smells and visual input occur without conscious acknowledgement, but are nevertheless subconsciously recorded. Human beings sense, perceive and react to a lot of consciously undetected stimuli. Ultrasonics, infrasonics, radar, microwaves and various forms of radiation can produce bodily reactions without conscious awareness, so obviously there are various levels of awareness within human beings. Even while asleep or with certain brain areas anesthetized, other brain areas can perceive certain things and cause the body to respond to stimuli.


    <!-- m -->http://www.mindpowernews.com/Subliminals.htm<!-- m -->
    Subliminal Messages: Deceiving the Mind
    By Autumn C. Koerbel,
    Special Feature, AskMen.com

    Although you might not realize it, subliminal messages are probably being used on you. Used mainly as advertising tools, such messages are designed to be relayed without their targets ever being conscious of them.

    Part of The Plan was to deceive us into thinking Michael was sick, frail, on drugs, dieing, so this performance in TII was ALL part of that plan.

    The families comments about doubles are Part of The Plan to plant subliminal messages for us to continue to think Michael was sick, frail, on drugs, dieing, and that doubles were used in TII.

    IMO Michael was "acting" strangely for the purpose of "Illusion".

    This was Michael in TII performance of Billie Jean.
    Peace

    I agree with you, Im_convincedmjalive. This really isn't about an actual "physical" double and a broadening of perspectives is required here; opening one's mind to ideas and possibilities and looking for a deeper meaning not just a "literal" one. So much of this adventure has been in alternate meanings to things than we see at first glance, for instance the DOTS of TMZ articles. It isn't what we first perceive it to be, there is something deeper there if you just take a closer look. The same is for the "Doubles, it isn't meant to be a physical double but something much more relevant to our perceptions of the world around us. We really are being directed to philosophical theories and how psychological principals are being used in all forms of media etc to manipulate our perceptions.

    Oh and that explains the changes in height, shape, ears and facial structure...? Leave alone all the photo comparisons and morphs that don't match. But okay, never mind, let's just say we agree to disagree.

  • One is a liddle off, Mike never changed Billie Jean and he wasn't 'too old'. So what's this MJ's excuse?


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    Full screen on YouTube: <!-- m -->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaeWuyuzxWE<!-- m -->

    <!-- m -->http://www.braincourse.com/subliminala.html<!-- m -->
    Are We Already Learning In A Subliminal Way?
    .....by Melvin D. Saunders

    ........In a way, what we consciously see is all there is to see, but all there is to see is much more than what we see. What do we perceive on a subconscious level that we do not see on a conscious level? Since we can perceive more with an attentive expectation mind set, is attentiveness consciousness? People are immersed in subliminal stimuli all day long. Many sounds, smells and visual input occur without conscious acknowledgement, but are nevertheless subconsciously recorded. Human beings sense, perceive and react to a lot of consciously undetected stimuli. Ultrasonics, infrasonics, radar, microwaves and various forms of radiation can produce bodily reactions without conscious awareness, so obviously there are various levels of awareness within human beings. Even while asleep or with certain brain areas anesthetized, other brain areas can perceive certain things and cause the body to respond to stimuli.


    <!-- m -->http://www.mindpowernews.com/Subliminals.htm<!-- m -->
    Subliminal Messages: Deceiving the Mind
    By Autumn C. Koerbel,
    Special Feature, AskMen.com

    Although you might not realize it, subliminal messages are probably being used on you. Used mainly as advertising tools, such messages are designed to be relayed without their targets ever being conscious of them.

    Part of The Plan was to deceive us into thinking Michael was sick, frail, on drugs, dieing, so this performance in TII was ALL part of that plan.

    The families comments about doubles are Part of The Plan to plant subliminal messages for us to continue to think Michael was sick, frail, on drugs, dieing, and that doubles were used in TII.

    IMO Michael was "acting" strangely for the purpose of "Illusion".

    This was Michael in TII performance of Billie Jean.
    Peace

    I agree with you, Im_convincedmjalive. This really isn't about an actual "physical" double and a broadening of perspectives is required here; opening one's mind to ideas and possibilities and looking for a deeper meaning not just a "literal" one. So much of this adventure has been in alternate meanings to things than we see at first glance, for instance the DOTS of TMZ articles. It isn't what we first perceive it to be, there is something deeper there if you just take a closer look. The same is for the "Doubles, it isn't meant to be a physical double but something much more relevant to our perceptions of the world around us. We really are being directed to philosophical theories and how psychological principals are being used in all forms of media etc to manipulate our perceptions.

    Oh and that explains the changes in height, shape, ears and facial structure...? Leave alone all the photo comparisons and morphs that don't match. But okay, never mind, let's just say we agree to disagree.

    But that is just your opinion, I don't agree that there are these major differences at all. The "doubles theory" is simply a theory not a fact, as is my theory. Neither is anymore valid than the other. Just because you believe the "doubles theory" and I don't isn't any reason to post a contemptuous reply. I haven't been disrespectful at all. It is possible that we are both wrong and it is completely something else. Because you believe the "doubles theory", you may be seeing things to validate that for you, just as I may be seeing things that validate what I perceive. In the end it is all just theories and speculation.
  • robdrobd Posts: 106
    I'm sure I'm not the only one who went to see TII to see MJ do his iconic Billie Jean performance one last time and upon seeing it wondering "what was that?", maybe it was Michael doing it but is was so different from the way he has always done it it left me very confused.

  • One is a liddle off, Mike never changed Billie Jean and he wasn't 'too old'. So what's this MJ's excuse?


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    Full screen on YouTube: <!-- m -->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaeWuyuzxWE<!-- m -->

    <!-- m -->http://www.braincourse.com/subliminala.html<!-- m -->
    Are We Already Learning In A Subliminal Way?
    .....by Melvin D. Saunders

    ........In a way, what we consciously see is all there is to see, but all there is to see is much more than what we see. What do we perceive on a subconscious level that we do not see on a conscious level? Since we can perceive more with an attentive expectation mind set, is attentiveness consciousness? People are immersed in subliminal stimuli all day long. Many sounds, smells and visual input occur without conscious acknowledgement, but are nevertheless subconsciously recorded. Human beings sense, perceive and react to a lot of consciously undetected stimuli. Ultrasonics, infrasonics, radar, microwaves and various forms of radiation can produce bodily reactions without conscious awareness, so obviously there are various levels of awareness within human beings. Even while asleep or with certain brain areas anesthetized, other brain areas can perceive certain things and cause the body to respond to stimuli.


    <!-- m -->http://www.mindpowernews.com/Subliminals.htm<!-- m -->
    Subliminal Messages: Deceiving the Mind
    By Autumn C. Koerbel,
    Special Feature, AskMen.com

    Although you might not realize it, subliminal messages are probably being used on you. Used mainly as advertising tools, such messages are designed to be relayed without their targets ever being conscious of them.

    Part of The Plan was to deceive us into thinking Michael was sick, frail, on drugs, dieing, so this performance in TII was ALL part of that plan.

    The families comments about doubles are Part of The Plan to plant subliminal messages for us to continue to think Michael was sick, frail, on drugs, dieing, and that doubles were used in TII.

    IMO Michael was "acting" strangely for the purpose of "Illusion".

    This was Michael in TII performance of Billie Jean.
    Peace

    I agree with you, Im_convincedmjalive. This really isn't about an actual "physical" double and a broadening of perspectives is required here; opening one's mind to ideas and possibilities and looking for a deeper meaning not just a "literal" one. So much of this adventure has been in alternate meanings to things than we see at first glance, for instance the DOTS of TMZ articles. It isn't what we first perceive it to be, there is something deeper there if you just take a closer look. The same is for the "Doubles, it isn't meant to be a physical double but something much more relevant to our perceptions of the world around us. We really are being directed to philosophical theories and how psychological principals are being used in all forms of media etc to manipulate our perceptions.

    Oh and that explains the changes in height, shape, ears and facial structure...? Leave alone all the photo comparisons and morphs that don't match. But okay, never mind, let's just say we agree to disagree.


    I personally CAN NOT explain all those other oddities.
    I was only speaking on this performance of Billie Jean.

    Maybe ALL the other stuff was Magic and Illusions <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
    He did hang out with The Best Magicians and Illusionists I have seen: Criss Angel and David Blaine. <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) -->

    Both of their works amazes me and baffles my mind. <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
    If Michael studies Greats, then I am thinking he studied them and applied what he learned in his own life.

    Food for thought.
    Peace
  • sweet1sweet1 Posts: 312

    One is a liddle off, Mike never changed Billie Jean and he wasn't 'too old'. So what's this MJ's excuse?


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    Full screen on YouTube: <!-- m -->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaeWuyuzxWE<!-- m -->

    <!-- m -->http://www.braincourse.com/subliminala.html<!-- m -->
    Are We Already Learning In A Subliminal Way?
    .....by Melvin D. Saunders

    ........In a way, what we consciously see is all there is to see, but all there is to see is much more than what we see. What do we perceive on a subconscious level that we do not see on a conscious level? Since we can perceive more with an attentive expectation mind set, is attentiveness consciousness? People are immersed in subliminal stimuli all day long. Many sounds, smells and visual input occur without conscious acknowledgement, but are nevertheless subconsciously recorded. Human beings sense, perceive and react to a lot of consciously undetected stimuli. Ultrasonics, infrasonics, radar, microwaves and various forms of radiation can produce bodily reactions without conscious awareness, so obviously there are various levels of awareness within human beings. Even while asleep or with certain brain areas anesthetized, other brain areas can perceive certain things and cause the body to respond to stimuli.


    <!-- m -->http://www.mindpowernews.com/Subliminals.htm<!-- m -->
    Subliminal Messages: Deceiving the Mind
    By Autumn C. Koerbel,
    Special Feature, AskMen.com

    Although you might not realize it, subliminal messages are probably being used on you. Used mainly as advertising tools, such messages are designed to be relayed without their targets ever being conscious of them.

    Part of The Plan was to deceive us into thinking Michael was sick, frail, on drugs, dieing, so this performance in TII was ALL part of that plan.

    The families comments about doubles are Part of The Plan to plant subliminal messages for us to continue to think Michael was sick, frail, on drugs, dieing, and that doubles were used in TII.

    IMO Michael was "acting" strangely for the purpose of "Illusion".

    This was Michael in TII performance of Billie Jean.
    Peace

    I agree with you, Im_convincedmjalive. This really isn't about an actual "physical" double and a broadening of perspectives is required here; opening one's mind to ideas and possibilities and looking for a deeper meaning not just a "literal" one. So much of this adventure has been in alternate meanings to things than we see at first glance, for instance the DOTS of TMZ articles. It isn't what we first perceive it to be, there is something deeper there if you just take a closer look. The same is for the "Doubles, it isn't meant to be a physical double but something much more relevant to our perceptions of the world around us. We really are being directed to philosophical theories and how psychological principals are being used in all forms of media etc to manipulate our perceptions.

    Oh and that explains the changes in height, shape, ears and facial structure...? Leave alone all the photo comparisons and morphs that don't match. But okay, never mind, let's just say we agree to disagree.

    But that is just your opinion, I don't agree that there are these major differences at all. The "doubles theory" is simply a theory not a fact, as is my theory. Neither is anymore valid than the other. Just because you believe the "doubles theory" and I don't isn't any reason to post a contemptuous reply. I haven't been disrespectful at all. It is possible that we are both wrong and it is completely something else. Because you believe the "doubles theory", you may be seeing things to validate that for you, just as I may be seeing things that validate what I perceive. In the end it is all just theories and speculation.

    Mo! I have to agree with you 100%! I just wonder why is it so difficult for some people to believe that there were doubles inTII? MJ's own father Joe Jackson said there were lots of doubles in the movie. Joe isn't as off as some people may want to believe. MJ didn't want to do more than 10 shows anyway. AEG was behind the change and we all know that MJ never allowed big industry to push him around. I believe that could be one of the reasons he left and went into hiding. There is more corruption in the music industry than any of us can imagine. When you back out of contracts that's messing with folks money. It's no telling who MJ pissed off so bad that wanted to take him out? Thank God he had a plan already in place. Mo, I like your post! They are always on point and allows us to look from a different perspective. The problem is most people just don't want to see it. Thanks for this great topic! Keep the Faith! <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
  • mjwrmjwr Posts: 60
    The funny thing about Billie Jean in This Is It is the fact "he" starts with the wrong leg @ 0:15 in this video.

    As you can see he switches quick after "he" noticed "he" started with the wrong leg in front.

    I think it´s an impersonator since Michael Jackson wouldn´t make such simple mistakes like this.

    There are many impersonators who are left handed/footed too.

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  • i know this is off topic but i'm getting old and have to ask while i'm thinking of it. light man. someone found sunflowers on the lightman panels. has anyone looked to see what else is there?
  • rasyterasyte Posts: 484
    i know this is off topic but i'm getting old and have to ask while i'm thinking of it. light man. someone found sunflowers on the lightman panels. has anyone looked to see what else is there?

    I dont see sunflowers in the light man.. <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> but I saw sunflowers in one photo form TII...
  • The sunflowers are really on the light man in TII <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
  • rasyterasyte Posts: 484
    The sunflowers are really on the light man in TII <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->

    where??? my brother deleted film <!-- s:evil: -->:evil:<!-- s:evil: --> and I can't watch it .. <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> i have to download again.. <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
    and I'm sure he will delete it again.. <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
  • chappiechappie Posts: 529
    Discover The Man You Never Knew...This Is It...
    So...You all think you know who Michael Jackson is?
    I don't...but I really want to...... <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
    Chappie
  • The sunflowers are really on the light man in TII <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->

    where??? my brother deleted film <!-- s:evil: -->:evil:<!-- s:evil: --> and I can't watch it .. <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> i have to download again.. <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
    and I'm sure he will delete it again.. <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->

    This picture is from the blog of seeingclues.

    lightmansunflowers.jpg

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  • rasyterasyte Posts: 484
    The sunflowers are really on the light man in TII <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->

    where??? my brother deleted film <!-- s:evil: -->:evil:<!-- s:evil: --> and I can't watch it .. <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> i have to download again.. <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
    and I'm sure he will delete it again.. <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->

    This picture is from the blog of seeingclues.

    lightmansunflowers.jpg

    <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->

    WOW <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> thank you! <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> beautiful sunflowers <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
    but seriously how can this not be HOAX... <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
    I just love it! everything planed so carefully.. <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
  • TracyKTracyK Posts: 163
    The only difference I see is that two are live and two are rehearsals. He obviously gives more in concert. That's the difference. Also you have to figure in the age difference. No one is as sharp when they are 50 as they were when they were 33.

    I wish people would let Michael age. It will happen to all of us. We will all one day not be able to move the way we did when we were younger. Take Tina Turner and James Brown. Although phenomenal they did not/don't move as they did when they were younger. Still fantastic in their own right. (although one died)
  • SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400
    The only difference I see is that two are live and two are rehearsals. He obviously gives more in concert. That's the difference. Also you have to figure in the age difference. No one is as sharp when they are 50 as they were when they were 33.

    I wish people would let Michael age. It will happen to all of us. We will all one day not be able to move the way we did when we were younger. Take Tina Turner and James Brown. Although phenomenal they did not/don't move as they did when they were younger. Still fantastic in their own right. (although one died)

    First of all, Tina is and James was a LOT older than Mike. 50 is not old, I don't know how many times I have to say that. How do you explain "Thriller" and "Smooth Criminal" in TII if he was not able to dance like he used to? And I am pretty sure that he can still do the Moonwalk when he is 93 years old.

    If you look at the Dangerous rehearsal, you see that he is indeed not giving his all, yet we see all the typical MJ moves. TII Billie Jean guy in TII is doing close to nothing. He is also not trying something else with Billie Jean, Mike likes routine and he will only improve his choreography and not just stand there moving a little to the music. Mike's moves have always been very sharp and I am sure they are still this day. I wish people would stop calling him old, he's not. There is a difference between a 50-year-old truck driver that drinks beer and eats chips every night while controlling his remote, and a 50-year-old that has danced all his life like Michael Jackson.

    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

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  • PJ4MJPJ4MJ Posts: 323
    I wish people would stop calling him old, he's not. There is a difference between a 50-year-old truck driver that drinks beer and eats chips every night while controlling his remote, and a 50-year-old that has danced all his life like Michael Jackson.

    I'm not sure about the whole Doubles theory, but I totally agree on this point, Souza. There's no reason to think that Michael wouldn't be able to dance amazingly at 50. I think we can all agree that Michael is a perfectionist; right? He's stated that himself, many times. I don't think a perfectionist would contemplate a concert residency if he honestly couldn't do the moves he's famous for and the fans would expect to see.

    I know we are all ages here, but I honestly think the majority of people saying he wouldn't be able to move well because he's 50 are probably 25 or younger. I'm 41, and in many ways I move a LOT better than I did at 25. It's all about how you take care of yourself. Age is just a number.
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