This was discussed at length in a previous topic and on the old forum. The bar codes should match, that is why I posted what I did.
Ok, good! I am sorry I missed the topic (searches stink on the board)So, You have something substantial then? an official source to investigate this to put it to rest? Can you give me that source because I really am loony trying to investigate that piece of evidence that appears odd..Then someone mentioned they are the just numbers in succession?..EEK. Anyway, can you give me the source to look at the rules for the tracts or certificates? I can't tell what I am really looking at and that would be helpful.
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And as I was hitting "Submit", my ipod switched songs and the very first thing I heard was "It's about love! It's about love overcoming all obstacles!"
The amendment to Michael Jackson’s death certificate declaring that his June 25 passing was due to “acute propofol intoxication” and “intravenous injection by another,” has been published online. EW has confirmed with the L.A. County coroner’s office that the document, which is part of the public record, is genuine. Jackson’s death was officially ruled a homicide last August.
Exactly. Where would they have got this from anyway?
I don''t think the family would have released the DC to the media.
You've been sleeping <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> anyone can get an 'information' copy of a death cert. These are posted on tmz too. They are informational copies.
One file with two different bar codes !? Should it be the same of both pages !?
Well spotted - this must mean its fake!!
No, that doesn't mean it's fake. That is page two. To begin was one page because the cause was deferred. Then when they finished with the tox they issued the amendment which gives us page.
Very Weird, I did Notice at the botton it says 1st Date, 07/07/2009, there's the 3 sevens again...
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Also shouldn't news as BIG as this be reported on "News Headlines", i have only found it on SKY under "ENTERTAINMENT NEWS", since when has a murder headline come under entertainment news??
BBC so far have not reported it, The Sun and News Of The World are known for False News.
Maybe you're looking at recent news. The ammended certficate and the cause was reported months ago.
Exactly. Where would they have got this from anyway?
I don''t think the family would have released the DC to the media.
You've been sleeping <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> anyone can get an 'information' copy of a death cert. These are posted on tmz too. They are informational copies.
I'm confused... my understanding is that this is the third death certificate.. it was in today's news .. but I don't see it on TMZ.. do you have a link?
i looked on ucla 's website for the dr christopher rogers and hes not at that hospital if the coroner i never heard about him have you guys??? <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
I have searched for Dr Christopher Rodgers in California and in UCLA no such doctor, other than a pain mangement specialist and a nature doctor exist. And I do not believe that they would ever have a pain management doctor sign the death certificate, as pain management doctors are not the type of doctor that would work in the emergency/trauma department in UCLA Med Center. So that doctors name still seems some what fishy to me, plus the DC still remains unsigned.
Who's Dean C Logan? Why did the Registrar- Recorder County Clerk sign it instead of a doctor? <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> The other DCs that've we've seen online were signed by a doctor with the letters VE under his signature, this one's signed by a Registrar-Recorder County Clerk. <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> I'm a little confused... <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
This is page 2 of the origianl certifcate. It was issued back in August. He records documents locally so he signs it or uses a stamp. The first page is the one with the other signature. There's no mystery.
i looked on ucla 's website for the dr christopher rogers and hes not at that hospital if the coroner i never heard about him have you guys??? <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
This IS a new DC. The bar codes SHOULD match because it is a census tract number. Each DC we have been given has a different bar code #.
Do we indeed have 7 DCs now? That would make me chuckle.
I am confused as to the purpose of this new DC (other then to round out to the nice number 7). The amendment released last August listed homicide as cause of death so why a new one? Interesting that it was released on Elvis's birthday.
It's not new. It's the same. The recent date printed at the bottom is the purchase date.
You all mean the "201974" on one and "201975" on the other?
It really looks like it's just one page followed by the other....
Not sure about this as anyone can type some words onto a form.
The question is, who are all these people and can they be traced?
Jonathan Fielding MD is listed as the signing Local registrar. He has wiki page.
Jonathan E. Fielding M.D., M.P.H., M.A., M.B.A. is the Director of the Department of Public Health and is the Health Officer for Los Angeles County.
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The signatory for the LA Coroners Office is Cheryl Macwillie. She is a Coroner's Lieutenant and Spokesperson.
Los Angeles County Coroner's Lt. Cheryl MacWillie
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Christopher Rogers MD as the certifying Physician or Coroner. He is listed at the:
LOS ANGELES COUNTY MEDICAL EXAMINER-CORONER
Forensic Medicine - Christopher Rogers, M.D. 323-343-0715
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Then all these people are real official people, who have signed the certificate ? <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
Yes. The certificate is legitmate. I have ton of them.
Other than the form which was redesigned, and the signature on this particular one when it was purchased, everything is the same. It always said homicide. This isn't new news.
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You're messing yourself into troubles with own thoughts.
You can't believe he is dead when you say he is dead.. Then you know he is dead.
How can we know he is dead?.. Uhm.. Impossible. No offical proves or statements.
Ok, good! I am sorry I missed the topic (searches stink on the board)So, You have something substantial then? an official source to investigate this to put it to rest? Can you give me that source because I really am loony trying to investigate that piece of evidence that appears odd..Then someone mentioned they are the just numbers in succession?..EEK. Anyway, can you give me the source to look at the rules for the tracts or certificates? I can't tell what I am really looking at and that would be helpful.
Thanks
Odd, no?
Very susie_23... don't give up yet!
BAMSDAY!
And as I was hitting "Submit", my ipod switched songs and the very first thing I heard was "It's about love! It's about love overcoming all obstacles!"
The amendment to Michael Jackson’s death certificate declaring that his June 25 passing was due to “acute propofol intoxication” and “intravenous injection by another,” has been published online. EW has confirmed with the L.A. County coroner’s office that the document, which is part of the public record, is genuine. Jackson’s death was officially ruled a homicide last August.
Nothing on CNN.
That is page 2 of the original - page 2 consists of amended information...this was done after they finished the tox
You've been sleeping <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> anyone can get an 'information' copy of a death cert. These are posted on tmz too. They are informational copies.
No, that doesn't mean it's fake. That is page two. To begin was one page because the cause was deferred. Then when they finished with the tox they issued the amendment which gives us page.
Maybe you're looking at recent news. The ammended certficate and the cause was reported months ago.
I'm confused... my understanding is that this is the third death certificate.. it was in today's news .. but I don't see it on TMZ.. do you have a link?
He's a doctor - coronor - you can look him up here.
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He's a doctor / cornoner - his last name is spelled Rogers not Rodgers.
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This is page 2 of the origianl certifcate. It was issued back in August. He records documents locally so he signs it or uses a stamp. The first page is the one with the other signature. There's no mystery.
hmm well that was weird i looked everywhere now i see it...hmmm strange eh??
It's not new. It's the same. The recent date printed at the bottom is the purchase date.
Yes. The certificate is legitmate. I have ton of them.
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It's down, after Brittany.
Other than the form which was redesigned, and the signature on this particular one when it was purchased, everything is the same. It always said homicide. This isn't new news.